Covid Vaccines Are Driving Excess Deaths, Parliament Told

Andrew Bridgen, the former Conservative now Reclaim MP, finally secured a debate on excess deaths in the House of Commons, which took place on Friday afternoon. We provide here a full transcript of the debate, as found in Hansard. A full video of the debate can be found on X.

The speaker is Andrew Bridgen, unless otherwise stated.

We have experienced more excess deaths since July 2021 than in the whole of 2020. Unlike during the pandemic, however, those deaths are not disproportionately of the old. In other words, the excess deaths are striking down people in the prime of life, but no one seems to care. I fear that history will not judge this House kindly. Worse still, in a country supposedly committed to the free and frank exchange of views, it appears that no one cares that no one cares. Well, I care, Mr. Deputy Speaker, and I credit those Members in attendance today, who also care. I thank the hon. Member for Lincoln (Karl McCartney) for his support, and I am sorry that he could not attend the debate.

It has taken a lot of effort, and more than 20 rejections, to be allowed to raise this topic, but at last we are here to discuss the number of people dying. Nothing could be more serious. Numerous countries are currently gripped in a period of unexpected mortality, and no one wants to talk about it. It is quite normal for death numbers to fluctuate up and down by chance alone, but what we are seeing here is a pattern repeated across countries, and the rise has not let up.

Philip Davies: I commend the hon. Member for the tenacious way in which he has battled on this issue; I admire him for that. I wonder where he found the media were in all this. During the Covid pandemic, every day the media — particularly the BBC — could not wait to tell us how many people had died on that particular day, without any context for those figures whatsoever, but they seem to have gone strangely quiet over excess deaths now.

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. He is absolutely right: the media have let the British public down badly. There will be a full press pack going out to all media outlets following my speech, with all the evidence to back up all the claims I will make, but I do not doubt that there will be no mention of it in the mainstream media.

One might think that a debate about excess deaths would be full of numbers, but this speech does not contain many numbers, because most of the important numbers are being kept hidden. Other data have been oddly presented in a distorted way, and concerned people seeking to highlight important findings and ask questions have found themselves inexplicably under attack.

Before debating excess deaths, it is important to understand how excess deaths are determined. To understand whether there is an excess, by definition, we need to estimate how many deaths would have been expected. The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) uses 2015 to 2019 as a baseline, and the Government’s Office for Health Improvement and Disparities uses a 2015 to 2019 baseline, modelled to allow for ageing. I have used those data here. Unforgivably, the Office for National Statistics has included deaths in 2021 as part of its baseline calculation for expected deaths, as if there was anything normal about the deaths in 2021. By exaggerating the number of deaths expected, the number of excess deaths can be minimised. Why would the ONS want to do that?

There is just too much that we do not know, and it is not good enough. The ONS publishes promptly each week the number of deaths registered. While that is commendable, it is not the data point that really matters. There is a total failure to collect, never mind publish, data on deaths that are referred for investigation to the coroner. Why does that matter? A referral means that it can be many months — or, given the backlog, many years — before a death is formally registered. Needing to investigate the cause of a death is fair enough, but failing to record when the death happened is not.

Because of that problem, we have no idea how many people died in 2021, even now. The problem is greatest for the younger age groups, where a higher proportion of deaths are investigated. This data failure is unacceptable and must change. There is nothing in a coroner’s report that can bring anyone back from the dead, and those deaths should be reported. The youngest age groups are important not only because they should have their whole lives ahead of them. If there is a new cause of excess mortality across the board, it would not be noticed so much in the older cohorts, because the extra deaths would be drowned out among the expected deaths. However, in the youngest cohorts, that is not the case.

There were nearly two extra deaths a day in the second half of 2021 among 15 to 19-year-old males, but potentially even more if those referred to the coroner were fully included. In a judicial review of the decision to vaccinate yet younger children, the ONS refused in court to give anonymised details about those deaths. It admitted that the data it was withholding were statistically significant. It said:

The ONS recognises that more work could be undertaken to examine the mortality rates of young people in 2021, and intends to do so once more reliable data are available.

How many more extra deaths in 15 to 19-year-olds will it take to trigger such work? Surely the ONS should be desperately keen to investigate deaths in young men. Why else do we have an independent body charged with examining mortality data? Surely the ONS has a responsibility to collect data from coroners to produce timely information.

Let us move on to old people. Most deaths in the old are registered promptly, and we have a better feel for how many older people are dying. Deaths from dementia and Alzheimer’s show what we ought to expect: there was a period of high mortality coinciding with Covid and lockdowns, but ever since, there have been fewer deaths than expected. After a period of high mortality, we expect and historically have seen a period of low mortality, because those who have sadly died cannot die again.

Those whose deaths were slightly premature because of Covid and lockdowns died earlier than they otherwise would have. That principle should hold true for every cause of death and every age group, but that is not what we are seeing. Even for the over-85-year-olds, according to the Office for Health Improvement and Disparities, there were 8,000 excess deaths — 4% above the expected levels — for the 12 months starting in July 2020. That includes all of the autumn 2020 wave of Covid when we had tiering and the second lockdown and all of the first Covid winter. However, for the year starting July 2022, there were more than 18,000 excess deaths in this age group — 9% above expected levels. That is more than twice as many in a period when there should have been a deficit and when deaths from diseases previously associated with old age were fewer than expected. I have raised my concerns about NG163 and the use of midazolam and morphine, which may have caused — and may still be causing — premature deaths in the vulnerable, but that is, sadly, a debate for another day.

There were just over 14,000 excess deaths in the under 65-year-olds before vaccination from April 2020 to the end of March 2021. However, since that time, there have been more than 21,000 excess deaths, ignoring the registration delay problem, and the majority of those deaths — 58% of them — were not attributed to Covid. We turned society upside down before vaccination for fear of excess deaths from Covid, but today we have substantially more excess deaths, and in younger people, and there is a complete eerie silence. The evidence is unequivocal. There was a clear stepwise increase in mortality following the vaccine rollout. There was a reprieve in the winter of 2021-22 because there were fewer than expected respiratory deaths, but otherwise the excess has been incessantly at this high level.

Ambulance data for England provide another clue. Ambulance calls for life-threatening emergencies were running at a steady 2,000 calls a day until the vaccine rollout. From then, they rose to 2,500 daily, and calls have stayed at that level since. The surveillance systems designed to spot a safety problem have all flashed red, but no one is looking. Claims for personal independence payments from people who have developed a disability and cannot work rocketed with the vaccine rollout and have continued to rise ever since. The same was seen in the U.S., which also started with the vaccine rollout, not with Covid. A study to determine the vaccination status of a sample of such claimants would be relatively quick and inexpensive to perform, yet nobody seems interested in ascertaining this vital information. Officials have chosen to turn a blind eye to this disturbing, irrefutable and frightening data, much like Nelson did — and for far less honourable reasons. He would be ashamed of us.

Furthermore, data that have been used to sing the praises of the vaccine are deeply flawed. Only one Covid-related death was prevented in each of the initial major trials that led to authorisation of the vaccines, and that is taking the data entirely at face value, whereas a growing number of inconsistencies and anomalies suggest that we ought not to do this. Extrapolating from that means that between 15,000 and 20,000 people had to be injected to prevent a single death from Covid. To prevent a single Covid hospitalisation, more than 1,500 people needed to be injected. The trial data showed that one in 800 injected people had a serious adverse event, meaning that they were hospitalised or had a life-threatening or life-changing condition. The risk of this was twice as high as the chance of preventing a Covid hospitalisation. We are harming one in 800 people to supposedly save one in 20,000. That is madness.

The strongest claims have too often been based on modelling carried out on the basis of flawed assumptions. Where observational studies have been carried out, researchers will correct for age and comorbidities to make the vaccines look better. However, they never correct for socioeconomic or ethnic differences as that would make vaccines look worse. That matters. For example, claims of higher mortality in less vaccinated regions of the United States took no account of the fact that this was the case before the vaccines were rolled out. That is why studies that claim to show that the vaccines prevented Covid deaths also showed a marked effect of them preventing non-Covid deaths. The prevention of non-Covid deaths was always a statistical illusion and claims of preventing Covid deaths should not be assumed when that illusion has not been corrected for. When it is corrected for, the claims of efficacy for the vaccines vanish with it.

Covid disproportionately killed people from ethnic minorities and lower socioeconomic groups during the pandemic. In 2020, deaths among the most deprived were up by 23% compared with 17% for the least deprived. However, since 2022 the pattern has reversed, with 5% excess mortality among the most deprived compared with 7% among the least deprived. These deaths are being caused by something different.

In 2020, the excess was highest in the oldest cohorts, and there were fewer than expected deaths among younger age groups. However, since 2022, the 50 to 64-year-old cohort has had the highest excess mortality. Even the youngest age groups are now seeing a substantial excess, with a 9% excess in the under-50s since 2022 compared with 5% in the over-75 group.

Despite London being a younger region, the excess in London is only 3%, whereas it is higher in every more heavily vaccinated region of the U.K. It should be noted that London is famously the least vaccinated region in the U.K. by some margin. Studies comparing regions on a larger scale show the same thing. Studies from the Netherlands, Germany and the whole world each show that the highest mortality after vaccination was seen in the most heavily vaccinated regions.

So we need to ask: what are people dying of? Since 2022, there has been an 11% excess in ischemic heart disease deaths and a 16% excess in heart failure deaths. In the meantime, cancer deaths are only 1% above expected levels, which is further evidence that this is not simply some other factor that affects deaths across the board, such as failing to account for an ageing population or a failing NHS. In fact, the excess itself has a seasonality, with a peak in the winter months. The fact that it returns to baseline levels in summer is a further indication that this is not due to some statistical error or an ageing population alone.

Dr. Clare Craig from HART — the Health Advisory & Recovery Team — first highlighted a stepwise increase in cardiac arrest calls after the vaccine rollout in May 2021. HART has repeatedly raised concerns about the increase in cardiac deaths, and it has every reason to be concerned. Four participants in the vaccine group of the Pfizer trial died from cardiac arrest compared with only one in the placebo group. Overall, there were 21 deaths in the vaccine group up to March 2021, compared with 17 in the placebo group. There are serious anomalies about the reporting of deaths in this trial, with the deaths in the vaccine group taking much longer to report than those in the placebo group. That is highly suggestive of a significant bias in what was supposed to be a blinded trial.

An Israeli study clearly showed that an increase in cardiac hospital attendances among 18 to 39-year-olds correlated with vaccination, not with Covid. There have now been several post-mortem studies demonstrating a causal link between vaccination and coronary artery disease leading to death up to four months after the last dose. We need to remember that the safety trial was cut short to only two months, so there is no evidence of any vaccine safety beyond that point. The decision to unblind the trials after two months and vaccinate the placebo group is nothing less than a public health scandal. Everyone involved failed in their duty to the truth, but no one cares.

The one place that can help us understand exactly what has caused this is Australia, which had almost no Covid when vaccines were first introduced, making it the perfect control group. The state of South Australia had only 1,000 cases of Covid across its whole population by December 2021, before Omicron arrived. What was the impact of vaccination there? For 15 to 44-year-olds, there were historically 1,300 emergency cardiac presentations a month. With the vaccine rollout to the under-50s, this rocketed to over 2,172 cases in November 2021 in this age group alone, which was 67% more than usual. Overall, 17,900 South Australians had a cardiac emergency in 2021 compared with only 13,250 in 2018, which is a 35% increase. The vaccine must clearly be the No. 1 suspect for this, and it cannot be dismissed as a coincidence. Australian mortality overall has increased from early 2021, and that increase is due to cardiac deaths.

These excess deaths are not due to an ageing population, because there are fewer deaths from the diseases of old age. These deaths are not an effect of Covid, because they have happened in places that Covid had not reached. They are not due to low statin prescriptions or undertreated hypertension, as Chris Whitty would suggest, because prescriptions did not change, and any effect would have taken many years and been very small. The prime suspect must be something that was introduced to the population as a whole, something novel. The prime hypothesis must be the experimental COVID-19 vaccines.

The ONS published a dataset of deaths by vaccinated and unvaccinated. At first glance, it appears to show that the vaccines are safe and effective. However, there were several huge problems with how it presented that data. One was that for the first three-week period after injection, the ONS claimed that there were only a tiny number of deaths — the number the ONS would normally predict to occur in a single week. Where were the deaths from the usual causes? When that was raised, the ONS claimed that the sickest people did not get vaccinated and therefore the people who were vaccinated were self-selecting for those least likely to die. Not only was that not the case in the real world, with even hospices heavily vaccinating their residents, but the ONS’s own data show that the proportion of sickest people was equal in the vaccinated and the unvaccinated groups. That inevitably raises serious questions about the ONS’s data presentation. There were so many problems with the methodology used by the ONS that the statistics regulator agreed that the ONS data could not be used to assess vaccine efficacy or safety. That tells us something about the ONS.

Consequently, HART asked the U.K. Health Security Agency to provide the data it had on people who had died and therefore needed to be removed from its vaccination dataset. That request has been repeatedly refused, with excuses given including the false claim that anonymising the data would be the equivalent of creating it even though there is case law that anonymisation is not considered the creation of new data. I believe that if these data were released, they would be damning.

Some claim that so many lives have been saved by mass vaccination that any amount of harm, suffering and death caused by the vaccines is a price worth paying. They are delusional. The claim of 20 million lives saved is based on now discredited models which assume that Covid waves do not peak without intervention. There have been numerous waves globally now that demonstrate that is not the case. It was also based on there having been more than half a million lives saved in the U.K. That is more than the worst-case scenario predicted at the beginning of the pandemic. For the claim to have been true, the rate at which Covid killed people would have had to take off dramatically at the beginning of 2021 in the absence of vaccination. That is ludicrous and it bears no relation to the truth.

In the real world, Australia, New Zealand and South Korea had a mortality rate of 400 deaths per million up to summer 2022 after they were first hit with Omicron. How does that compare? With the Wuhan strain, France and Europe as a whole had a mortality rate of under 400 deaths per million up to summer 2020. Australia, New Zealand and South Korea were all heavily vaccinated before infection, so tell me: where was the benefit? The UK had just over 800 deaths per million up to summer 2020, so twice as much, but we know Omicron is half as deadly as the Wuhan variant. The death rates per million are the same before and after vaccination, so where were the benefits of vaccination?

The regulators have failed in their duty to protect the public. They allowed these novel products to skip crucial safety testing by letting them be described as vaccines. They failed to insist on safety testing being done in the years since the first temporary emergency authorisation. Even now, no one can tell us how much spike protein is produced on vaccination and for how long — yet another example of where there is no data for me to share with the House.

When it comes to properly recording deaths due to vaccination, the system is broken. Not a single doctor registered a death from a rare brain clot before doctors in Scandinavia forced the issue and the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency acknowledged the problem. Only then did these deaths start to be certified by doctors in the U.K. It turns out the doctors were waiting for permission from the regulator and the regulator was waiting to be alerted by the doctors. This is a lethal circularity. Furthermore, coroners have written regulation 28 reports highlighting deaths from vaccination to prevent further deaths, yet the MHRA said in response to a freedom of information request that it had not received any of them. The systems we have in place are clearly not functioning to protect the public.

The regulators also missed the fact that in the Pfizer trial, the vaccine was made for the trial participants in a highly controlled environment, in stark contrast to the manufacturing process used for the public rollout, which was based on a completely different technology. Just over 200 participants were given the same product that was given to the public, but not only was the data from these people never compared to those in the trial for efficacy and safety but the MHRA has admitted that it dropped the requirement to provide the data. That means that there was never a trial on the Pfizer product that was actually rolled out to the public, and that product has never been compared with the product that was actually trialled.

The vaccine mass production processes use vats of Escherichia coli and present a risk of contamination with DNA from the bacteria, as well as bacterial cell walls, which can cause dangerous reactions. This is not theoretical; this is now sound evidence that has been replicated by several labs across the world. The mRNA vaccines were contaminated by DNA, which far exceeded the usual permissible levels. Given that this DNA is enclosed in a lipid nanoparticle delivery system, it is arguable that even the permissible levels would have been far too high. These lipid nanoparticles are known to enter every organ of the body. As well as this potentially causing some of the acute adverse reactions that have been seen, there is a serious risk of this foreign bacterial DNA inserting itself into human DNA. Will anybody investigate? No, they won’t.

Danny Kruger: I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way; I am conscious that time is tight. I recognise that he is making a very powerful case. Does he agree that the Government should be looking at this properly and should commission a review into the excess deaths, partly so that we can reassure our constituents that the case he is making is not in fact valid and that the vaccines are not the cause behind these excess deaths?

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his support on this topic. Of course that is exactly what any responsible Government should do. I wrote to the Prime Minister on August 7th 2023 with all the evidence of this, but sadly I am still awaiting a response.

What will it take to stop these products? Their complete failure to stop infections was not enough; we all know plenty of vaccinated people who have caught and spread Covid. The mutation of the virus to a weaker variant — Omicron — was not enough, the increasing evidence of the serious harms to those of us who were vaccinated was not enough, and now the cardiac deaths and the deaths of young people are apparently not enough either.

It is high time that these experimental vaccines were suspended and a full investigation into the harms that they have caused was initiated. History will be a harsh judge if we do not start using evidence-based medicine. We need to return to basic science and basic ethics immediately, which means listening to all voices and investigating all concerns.

In conclusion, the experimental COVID-19 vaccines are not safe and are not effective. Despite there being only limited interest in the Chamber from colleagues — I am very grateful to those who have attended — we can see from the Public Gallery that there is considerable public interest. I implore all Members of the House, those who are present and those who are not, to support calls for a three-hour debate on this important issue. Mr. Deputy Speaker, this might be the first debate on excess deaths in our Parliament — indeed, it might be the first debate on excess deaths in the world — but, very sadly, I promise you it will not be the last.

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Health and Social Care Maria Caulfield:

I congratulate the hon. Member for North West Leicestershire (Andrew Bridgen) on securing this important debate. I only have five minutes of this 30-minute debate to respond. I will try to cover all the points if I can.

Can I start by acknowledging that the hon. Member is correct that we have seen an increase in excess deaths in the last year? However, I disagree with his analysis, because the causes that he refers to simply do not bear out the statistics that we have. There has been a combination of factors contributing to the increase in excess deaths, including, in the last year, high flu prevalence, the ongoing challenges of COVID-19, a strep A outbreak and conditions such as heart disease, which he touched on, diabetes and cancer. Because we had had virtually a lockdown of routine health services over a two-year period, many people are now coming forward with increased morbidity and mortality as a result.

I will start with winter flu. The number of positive tests last year peaked at 31.8%, the highest figure seen in the last six years. Interim analysis from the UKHSA indicates that the number of deaths in England associated with flu was far higher than pre-pandemic levels, so the excess deaths due to flu last winter are, sadly, part of the answer.

The hon. Member touched on the independent body, the ONS. Its figures show that the leading cause of death in England is still dementia, which accounts for about 10% of all deaths. It also looks at the cause of excess deaths. If we look at the figures as of June this year, the top three causes of excess deaths are respiratory illnesses, dementia and ischaemic heart disease, which is often caused by an increase in cholesterol, smoking or not having a blood pressure check. There are a number of reasons, and they are often chronic conditions that people have had for years, or in some cases for decades; they are not acute illnesses.

In the three minutes I have left to respond, I will touch on some of the points that the hon. Member made. First, on the importance of vaccination, it is very easy to say that there is a prevalence of high rates of Covid vaccination in people who have died. That is correct: when 93.6% of the population have had at least one dose of the vaccine, there will be a high rate of vaccination in excess deaths. That is different from causality. I completely agree with the hon. Member that there is a high prevalence rate, but that is not the same as saying that vaccination is the cause of those deaths.

The Office for National Statistics has looked at this, and those who have been vaccinated have generally had a lower all-cause mortality rate than unvaccinated people since the introduction of the booster in 2021. A recent study in Singapore looked at unvaccinated patients who had recovered from Covid, and showed that those patients had a 56% higher risk of cardiac complications a year later than those who were vaccinated. There are conflicting data on this issue, and I am not necessarily disagreeing with the hon. Member, but I think we need to have a robust conversation about it, not to assume that one side necessarily has all the answers.

I will touch on a couple of points that the hon. Member made about vaccine safety. The regulator has been taking account of those who report adverse events, and I encourage anyone who has had a side-effect from any of the vaccines to use the Yellow Card system and report it to their GP. When those side effects have been reported, the MHRA has taken action. In April 2021, the MHRA reacted to rare cases of concurrent thrombosis and thrombocytopenia following the AstraZeneca vaccine, which resulted in adults under 30 not being offered that vaccine. In May 2021, that was increased to adults under 40. With regard to the mRNA vaccine specifically, following reports of a link between Covid vaccines and myocarditis, the Commission on Human Medicines conducted an independent review in June 2021, which found that the incidence of that side-effect was rare: between one and two cases per 100,000. When there are concerns, we absolutely must investigate them. There is no doubt about that.

We had a debate earlier this afternoon about those who have experienced rare side effects from the vaccine. We do have the vaccine damage payment scheme, which offers a payment of £120,000 if that is shown to be—

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wokeman
wokeman
2 years ago

The filth don’t care, establishment are rancid from top to bottom and every institution infected, they hate us. They of course know the vaccine was ineffective and unsafe.

FerdIII
2 years ago
Reply to  wokeman

Corrupt Pharmament.
30k or 8% of the criminal state’s total Korona dead actually died from Rona. This is a fact confirmed by the ONS.
We have 30 K murdered by Midazolam, and 150 K dead from stabbinations.
Vaids is real and the injured will die from heart disease, cancer or an immune system failure.
Bridgen was offerred and refused the bribe.
Maybe 30 others in Pharmament might have done likewise.
Medical tyranny is what we still have, few of the actors have left power. Another scamdemic will arrive prob in 2024 and the US election theatre.

Marcus Aurelius knew
2 years ago

Hero. History will judge YOU kindly, Mr Bridgen.

You belong in the halls of honour, alongside the likes of Oscar Semmelweiss and Frances Oldham Kelsey.

Godspeed.

huxleypiggles
2 years ago

A post just seen on Telegram from Steve Kirsch:

Breaking: You can now sue the mRNA COVID vaccine manufacturers for damages and the FDA is required to take the COVID vaccines off the market. Why? Adulteration. The plasmid bioactive contaminant sequences were NOT pointed out to the regulatory authorities. It’s considered adulteration. I just got off the phone with Professor Byram Bridle and Dr. Robert Malone on this.”

I posted this in the NR BTL, five hours ago but it’s worth posting here for those that missed it.

Corky Ringspot
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Excellent. Any link available?

Baldrick
Baldrick
2 years ago

Well there is massive difference between this debate and the vaccine harms debate, which was December last year, if I remember correctly. But what a difference 10 months make. And the massive difference is the level of support for Andrew Bridgen from the public. In the vaccine debate, there was support AND criticism in the comments. People commending him, but also calling him a traitor. Not now. On the John Campbell’s version of the this speech, I counted nearly 300 comments (after that I got bored as there must be thousands), and I reckon about 62 % praised Andrew Bridgen, BUT nobody criticised him. Maybe one sceptical comment. 24 percent commented on the lack of MPs, and some on the cheering from public gallery. I see that there is no real different with this video of the speech on Andrew Bridgen’s page. Add to this the cheering from the public gallery, then things have changed. And the changed in attitude is not just in this country, it is worldwide. People have woken up.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago

Thanks for covering this, DS.

Worth noting that during BBC coverage of this event, the BBC chose to festoon the screen with pro-vaxx messages. I love it when they show their hand so openly: Oracle Films on X: “Jaw-dropping watching the @BBC out-BBC itself during its coverage of the parliamentary debate on #ExcessDeaths today. No fewer than nine egregious slogans were cycled onscreen throughout MP Andrew Bridgen’s speech, presumably in a failed attempt to undermine the many verifiable… https://t.co/cKxRcXnC7l” / X (twitter.com)

Worth complaining to the BBC, so they know they are being watched.

Mogwai
2 years ago

Clearly the BBC Verify bollocks doesn’t apply to verifying itself. All of that garbage spewed across the screen can be refuted by actual evidence many times over. It was shameful and just screamed of scraping the barrel and desperation, imo. But it’s only ‘misinformation’ when it goes against the narrative, right? Pathetic.🤬🤯🤡🌎

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I would love to know whose idea it was and how it came about. I presume they knew in advance Bridgen would be speaking and the subject.

Mogwai
2 years ago

I must admit I didn’t watch it, but in a legit debate situation there should be somebody present actually putting forth these data as a counter argument complete with citations for their source of info. Sticking messages on a screen is just below the belt and does not conform to a fair and honest debate at all. It comes across as ridiculously amateurish. But at this point in time I don’t think anyone’s on the fence and in need of convincing is there? You’ve either woken the hell up or you’re an eternally lost cause who will lap up all the tripe the BBC churn out.
I do believe the tipping point has happened though and it’s in our favour. No sane person is giving a stuff about a specially named cold and an injection that does feck all apart from damage your health. The world’s moved on to more pressing matters. It’s holding these criminals accountable for the harm they’re responsible for that’s the big issue. They cannot be allowed to just get away with it.

Grahamb
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

The BBC did this before when Bridgen spoke last year on a related matter.

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JXB
JXB
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Pathological liars like the BBClings don’t know what truth is; their lies are the truth.

D J
D J
2 years ago

GBNews is regularly threatened by Ofcom,but the BBC produces lie after lie and is safe because it parrots lies.

CHRIS
CHRIS
2 years ago

Out of the eight BBC propaganda pro-vaxx messages only TWO refer to COVID. In other words the BBC is trying to conflate safe traditional vaccines against serious disease with the worthless COVID “vaccines” that anyone with half a brain now knows don’t vaccinate, don’t stop the spread of the target disease while at the same time having the seemingly deliberate built in “feature” of being harmful to persons of all ages.

I this is called the “Straw Man” argument, the BBC defending against points that the brilliant and brave Andrew Bridgen isn’t even making.

FerdIII
2 years ago
Reply to  CHRIS

All quackcines are poison. ALL.

Jane G
Jane G
2 years ago

I did!

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  Jane G

Me too

Corky Ringspot
2 years ago

Great link, thanks. “NHS guidance states…”, again and again. Do they seriously believe that the majority of dopes out there still trust the NHS? Well actually I think perhaps they do. Sigh.

Epi
Epi
2 years ago

Yes a friend of mine has put in an official complaint about the BBC’s blatant bias and government propaganda.

Baldrick
Baldrick
2 years ago

Perhaps even more shocking than the lack of MPs, is the number of times Mr Bridgen had to go through 20 rejections before the debate was allowed. I think an adjournment debate on a Friday is never going to be well attended. Still a very very poor show.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago

Stealing a post from Lockdown sceptics reddit

“John Redwood’s Diary on the case of the vaccines and excess deaths, ref Andrew Bridgen’s speech the other day. Even though he was not in the chamber. No comments yet and there is a suggestion he won’t allow any objectionable ones.”

https://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2023/10/22/vaccines-2/

Baldrick
Baldrick
2 years ago

There are comments now. Snippets from some of them :-

“Now we have to all come together against the WHO International Health Regulations to prevent WHO dictating how the UK reacts to any future “global crisis”

“Where are the police enquires into corporate manslaughter and gross negligence. Why were vaccine regulators funded largely by big Pharma?”

“The medical establishment position, seen in the Minister’s reply to Andrew Bridgen on Friday, is to accept a low standard of evidence for Covid-caused deaths, but to demand a much higher standard of evidence for vaccine-caused deaths. In other words, double standards.”

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  Baldrick

These seem fairly representative of the general consensus among those who choose to comment. I wonder if they are representative of Redwood’s “followers” or whether the “vaccine” sceptics among them just feel more strongly and are over-represented among those to choose to post.

MikeAustin
2 years ago

Thanks. I just posted the following: ONS statistics show that, in England and Wales for the whole of 2020/2021 show:1) 156,924 ‘covid’ deaths with 28 days of a positive covid test but including pre-existing conditions and comorbidities2) 18,939 ‘covid’ deaths with comorbidities and no pre-existing conditions3) 6,183 ‘covid’ deaths with only covid on deaths certificateThe average age of death was 77.8 – the same as all-cause mortality in 2021!Less than 20% of the victims were under 65.The total covid-only deaths in school children aged 5-15 was 1 in a population of 8 million.If we express lives lost due to covid alone as life years, i.e. total years from an average 77.8 lifespen divided by 77.8, we have a total number of just 467.Covid never was, of itself, any more serious than flu. Remedies from re-purposed drugs were available – such as ivermection with a 75% success rate. There was no basis for any experimental injection – but plenty of reasons to stop it due to death and injury in the first few months.The excess deaths in children aged 10-19 since the begininnng of this year are 18% above the average of 2010-2019. That is 150 excess deaths. MHRA report 17… Read more »

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

Excellent post. If you mean you posted it on Redwood’s site, I can’t see it. Perhaps they are pre-moderated? Otherwise it has been taken down – too close to the truth?

HicManemus
2 years ago

No, TOFF, I can’t see it either – but agree with you, an excellent post from Mike. This comment that has been posted on the Redwood site did resonate with me…from the Hat Man:

“Last year the response to a FOI request was that of 175,000 deaths with Covid on the death certificate at that time, only 10% had only Covid on the death certificate. 90% of those fatalities had serious co-morbidities which could easily have been responsible for death without Covid.The medical establishment position, seen in the Minister’s reply to Andrew Bridgen on Friday, is to accept a low standard of evidence for Covid-caused deaths, but to demand a much higher standard of evidence for vaccine-caused deaths. In other words, double standards.”

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  HicManemus

Yes that’s a good one

MikeAustin
2 years ago

It is still there: https://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2023/10/22/vaccines-2/
Search by name – it is between a post by ‘MFD’ and a post by ‘Lifelogic’.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

Thanks; that’s good to know

Took a while for it to appear, for me – or I’m going gaga

At least Redwood attended and made a blog post about it, and has replied to some comments, but his “position” – “I’m not a medical expert so I am guided by the minister who is guided by experts” just doesn’t wash. No MP or minister can possibly be an “expert” on much and certainly not on every issue that comes before them, but nevertheless they must scrutinise and apply bullshit detector to what they are told. Basic leadership skill.

Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
2 years ago

You don’t need to be any kind of medical expert to know that the medium- and long-term effects of injecting experimental gunk can’t be known for years, and that therefore anybody who claimed the gunks were “safe and effective” was, to be as charitable as possible, making a claim they couldn’t possibly know to be true.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

I would love to have a window into the inner workings of these people. To what extent are they conscious of the contradictions in their positions?

I’ve always assumed politicians are fairly rational, calculating beings who lie for a living so they think pretty carefully about what lies to tell and how, but maybe they are just fools who believe their own bullshit.

MikeAustin
2 years ago

You might get some idea by reading John Redwood’s response to the comments here.
I find it regaling and wriggling in equal measure.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

Thanks for this

He still seems to think there was a “pandemic”

Edumacated eejit
2 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

Hi, could you please provide the arithmetic that is behind this statement:

If we express lives lost due to covid alone as life years, i.e. total years from an average 77.8 lifespen divided by 77.8, we have a total number of just 467.”

I’m sure you’re correct but I’mat a loss to understand it.

Thanks.

CircusSpot
CircusSpot
2 years ago

He is a brave decent man. I fear he will be driven out like the other Andrew who reported on the M m r triple whammy jabs and the increase in autism. Yet no one is commenting on this either and the jabs for this & Covid keep rolling along.

Freddy Boy
2 years ago
Reply to  CircusSpot

AB got justice for the Post Office workers who were persecuted due to a faulty computer programme ! The man is already more worthy than most & although admitting to have been taken in by the early covid hysteria he has bounced back to a position where he might have actually started the ball rolling to save us from Tedros , Michie & Co at the Criminal entity that is the WHO !!.. BRAVO 👏😇👍

CircusSpot
CircusSpot
2 years ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

You are right he is a true hero

RW
RW
2 years ago
Reply to  CircusSpot

Increase in autism diagnoses is not the same as increase in autism.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  RW

Do you have any firm views as to whether what might appear as “autism” could be “caused” in whole or part by environmental factors?

My view has always been that is largely determined at conception and is a hard wired different way of looking at and experiencing the world.

I’ve never been comfortable with ideas like “fight” or “cure” autism.

James.M
James.M
2 years ago

Liz Gunn of the NZ Loyal Party is about to expose the criminal behaviour behind her government’s pandemic response. She gives one of the most elegant, heartfelt and passionate speeches I’ve ever heard from any politician anywhere.

https://twitter.com/JohnMappin/status/1715685103643267337?s=20

CircusSpot
CircusSpot
2 years ago
Reply to  James.M

Well done to her and she has exposed the worst part that the batches differed in toxicity and this was deliberate and N z the perfect control group.

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
2 years ago
Reply to  James.M

Great words from Liz Gunn. I truly hope this goes out and this gets exposure. As we all know, the criminal cabal will stop at nothing to prevent the truth from coming out but they can’t stop everything, they can’t stop us speaking and listening to each other, they can’t stop social media (yet) or printed matter. One way or another, this information will get out there and more people will awaken. If it snowballs into a criminal investigation, it might just hold up the WHO’s power grab. Anyway, thanks for posting, James.

James.M
James.M
2 years ago

Thanks. We’re all trying to do our bit.

RTSC
RTSC
2 years ago

Maria Cauldfield “when 93.6% of the population have had at least one dose of the vaccine….”

That figure is rubbish – not least because they have no idea what the population is. However, estimates of those un-jabbed in the UK is that around 20% declined to be experimented on.

Valerie_London
Valerie_London
2 years ago
Reply to  RTSC

Yes, I think it must be closer to 20%. Also confounding the statistics is the fact that some people I know of, only had one or two jabs then stopped after that.

One young woman stopped after a miscarriage following her first and only jab, and my ex-brother in law (about 55) stopped after two and a kidney cancer diagnosis in 2021. So if their last jab was over two years ago, they may well no longer be at risk of serious side effects/death.

JohnK
2 years ago
Reply to  Valerie_London

Most of the people I know, who have probably used it, say nothing. They never ask me about it (although they probably know I never have used it).

JohnK
2 years ago
Reply to  RTSC

The use of any decimal point in the figures presented by her is a trick as well. It’s probably a deliberate illusion of accuracy. Might as well round it up to 94%; no real difference. You could add something like +/- 40%, or whatever!

JohnK
2 years ago

The other day came across this placard which is on display at the venue that was used by the organisations mentioned within it (image attached). I’m not one of their clients. Note the absence of any negative effects, either medical or financial. Of course, the Borough Council (that owns the venue) are quite proud of it all.

Swindon V record display.jpg
Freddy Boy
2 years ago
Reply to  JohnK

Bit daft , an open admission of exactly how many times they broke the Hippocratic oath on a poster in public !

JohnK
2 years ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

Indeed; there’s the evidence from that perspective! What isn’t declared is the loss of revenue from the other organisations that use the hall normally. It came back to normal last year, and I guess that display might have been there last October, but I just noticed it this week.

Free Lemming
2 years ago

There was no debate. It was Bridgen speaking to an almost empty chamber while the BBC ran propaganda ticker tape to remind people of the ‘truth’. Not even Orwell could have imagined this.

They’re in hysterics at our polite and patient dissent; pointing and laughing as they give us the middle finger while continuing unabated with their plans. When will people get it? We are irrelevant filth on their shoes. Forget your petitions, forget your peaceful protests, forget writing to your MP. Go home and pick up your pitch fork.

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
2 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

We are irrelevant filth on their shoes.

I like that, FL. We are the doggie dos on their shoes and we won’t go away and the smell will follow them about and haunt them!

Dr G
Dr G
2 years ago

“The one place that can help us understand exactly what has caused this is Australia”.
I see the evidence of this daily in my practice, and unless I have completely lost my marbles it is a real phenomenon.
In Australia, as with the UK, politicians who call this out are as rare as chickens with lips.

GlassHalfFull
2 years ago

MSU Professor Mark Skidmore was exonerated by MSU; his landmark paper showing over 250,000 killed in the US by the COVID vaccine is now back in the peer-reviewed literature.https://kirschsubstack.com/p/msu-professor-mark-skidmore-was-exonerated?publication_id=548354&post_id=138173269&isFreemail=true&r=1ninci

nickrobertslancaster
nickrobertslancaster
2 years ago

In case anyone was considering voting for Labour in the Lancaster and Fleetwood constituency next time, read and marvel at the empathy and self awareness of its sitting Member.
Here’s the Cat.
(Sorry, got to be a link to my Faceb0rg page)

https://www.facebook.com/100000003266255/posts/7115059271837444/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

https://whatson.parliament.uk/event/cal45670
WyrdWoman
2 years ago

Wow. The arrogance is breathtaking.

WyrdWoman
2 years ago

No one is commenting on the MP who interjected at around 24 minutes (on Campbell’s Rumble feed) who said the govt should commission a review into excess deaths ‘partly so that we can reassure our constituents that the case he’s making is not in fact valid and that the vaccines…have no cause [sic] behind these excess deaths.’ There was cheering from the gallery initially and Bridgen concurred, but I’m not entirely sure that was the point of the comment – was he being critical?

Perhaps they can get Hallett to do it once she’s finished manufacturing the conclusions to the current Covid debacle Inquiry.

https://rumble.com/v3qmes7-parliament-debate-excess-deaths.html

JXB
JXB
2 years ago

No mention in the media of the thousands of deaths from ‘Sudden’ and ‘Unexplained’ – but we get regular updates of deaths from Scottish Storm Hootsmon, or whatever it’s called – four to date I think.

Priorities. Storms = climate change panic.

Jon Smith
2 years ago

It was a discussing response in more ways than one from the minister after Bridgens speech… But the vaccine injury scheme is appalling, the injured have to prove disabilty it’s a war of attrition..
Anyway, what’s 120k these days even if you get it, one of the first deaths to be reported was a solicitor, it’s 1 years salary..

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/24/vaccine-damage-payment-scheme-boosts-staff-numbers-four-80-covid/

GroundhogDayAgain
2 years ago

It is quite remarkable that Maria Caulfield was able to assert multiple causes with such strong confidence and therefore ‘debunk’ the strong case being made by AB.

 This suggests that either:

  1. 1. Someone somewhere has done a wonderfully thorough analysis, which we should therefore demand to see.
  2. 2. she’s lying just to create a smokescreen.

I’m leaning towards number 2

Covid-1984
Covid-1984
2 years ago

Parliament do not want to debate as their crazed Lockdown debacle has bankrupted the UK and there’s no money left to pay compensation. Parliament is packed with not the brightest and best.

marebobowl
marebobowl
2 years ago

My MP was too busy attending his surgery to attend MP Bridgen’s, excessive mortality due to covid vaxxes presentation. Now I am fascinated that any MP had something more important to do rather than attending a presentation about a vaxx given to nearly the entire country that is causing excess mortality.

Anyone else wonder how any Mp could ignore this? Including your PM and his cabinet? It is beyond belief. Unless, they were told not to attend Andrew’s presentation. But who would do that? Anyone know.

Graff Frankenheim
Graff Frankenheim
2 years ago

When a Dutch Parliamentarian raised these issues, the room was empty apart from the Speaker. These people don’t want to hear how deeply they failed in their job to hold the government to account. And they certainly don’t to hear that on their watch government executed a massmurder on the people they supposedly represent (including their families and relatives). The dissonance between their self-image and reality is just unbridgeable.

Epi
Epi
2 years ago

One of the bravest most ethical of people ever to step into the Houses of Parliament. All the others are mere minnows trailing in his wake.

Well done sir we owe you a great deal.

Hero hardly does him justice.