Nick Dixon and Toby Young Talk About the Appalling Responses of the Left to the Attack on Israel, Nigel Farage Saying He Won’t Join the Tories and Laurence Fox Getting Arrested
Welcome to the Weekly Sceptic, episode 58!
This week:
- Hamas launches horrific attacks on Israel, and some of the responses from the Left are truly appalling
- An alleged deep fake audio clip of Keir Starmer circulates on X
- Nigel Farage says he won’t join the Tories, despite his massive popularity at the recent conference
- Laurence Fox is arrested over his Ulez comments
- Plus the Daily Sceptic’s top stories with Dr. Will Jones and Peak Woke!
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They should be discussing the appalling lack of balance in the reporting of this attack on Israel, is it that the brutality and killing by dropping bombs from fighter jets sits easier on their conscience than if its carried out by hand…
How can one be distraught at the killing of some and yet demand it against another.
Over the past several years 6000 Palestinians have been killed and 300 Israelis, how can this fact mean nothing to most..
I am fairly ignorant on this topic admittedly. Intentionally so if I’m honest, I feel that I don’t really need to know or perhaps want to know…
However I do feel that I am being swayed one way internally.
This isn’t because of news, or any sorts of media as I am a hermit aside from DS.
Can you please provide any sorts of media (reliable, not BBC please…) that could inform me?
I woulnt ever point anyone in the direction of our state propaganda machine the BBC..
The one person who has been heavily involved in this conflict over the past 50 years is George Galloway, an extremely knowledgeable and intelligent man, who is, without doubt worth litening to on this particular subject and certainly others regardless of his political persuasion, as he tells it how it is.
His talk show Moats, mother of all talk shows can be found on various outlets
How obvious that this is an operation seems to have escaped the clever skeptics: From BTL Off Guardian gorden Oct 10, 2023 11:15 AM The Supernova Sukkot Gathering was a pop-up psytrance rave whose location was only known (changed) a couple of days before the start on Friday, 6 Oct at 10 PM to Tel Gama, 5 km east of the Gaza razor wire and few km west of Re’im. Attack happened 8 1/2 hours later at ~6:30. Oddly enough, NONE of the participants in videos look anything like someone who would have been dancing to trance music for the last eight hours in the desert. The military-aged crowd actually looked pretty fresh and awake. No messy hair. Nobody was even sweating. Amazing. Attendance at 6:30 AM was reported to *still* be 2,000 – 3,000. Dancing on the Negev’s brown silt/clay/sand surface for hours apparently left their non-sweaty assortment of white pants, black shirts and white tennis shoes clean as a whistle. Like they just got off a bus or something. In fact, video of the dirt surfaces are unbelievably litter-free for a supposed eight hours of drinking/raving/whatever. Then few extremely noisy ‘Hamas’ paragliders [WTF?? …just, NO] supposedly were able… Read more »
The rest is BTL on this article at the (still wide awake) Off Guardian site:
https://off-guardian.org/2023/10/09/discuss-hamas-declares-war-on-israel/
Very disappointed with Daily Skeptic and many of its commentators.
Thanking you AYM.
This data, posted on an eairler article here on the DS has been removed, I’d like to know if it was removed by the DS or other ie 77th??
I post it again as a matter of interest to see if it’s removed again.
Agree wholly with this outlet and many commentators on here, I think I’m done here as its as bad as the Telegraph
I too am contemplating withdrawing my subs JS.
Its been really great through the covid years, drooped a lot through the Ukraine year and almost completely collapsed into right-think overnight.
No challenge to a narrative blaring out emotive excesses reminiscent of Kuwaiti incubator babies, sudden lapses security, the demand that everyone must condemn or be cancelled…
Come on.
Moderator here: I wonder if this graphic, ostensibly from the UN, was deleted by accident because it was part of a string? I can think of no other reason for it to be taken down. Our deletion software can be a bit heavy-handed, removing not just offensive comments but sometimes things below them in the same string too. Apologies, here’s the graphic; I’m not from the 77th, and it’s staying; hopefully you will too
Very good points made AYM. This is one of the most heavily protected border regions in the world….and yet it was breached very easily (apparently). To me, it has all the ingredients for a ‘false flag’. Let the MSM fill up the news cycles with this story for a while….and perhaps re-ignite some hatred elsewhere in the world on the middle east situation. The vast majority want peace. If you watch or listen to MSM, you can be fooled into believing that the answer is revenge, bullets and bombs.
A post from Off Guardian which is somewhat profound. It has been declared the incident is Israel’s 9/11 . This can only mean it is, in fact, an inside job. Saying they looked aside and let it happen is a very stupid apologist’s obscuration concealing the depths of the plan. They did it. Claiming they were caught with their pants around their ankles, that they were resting, by the pool, on the belief all things were very calm and quiet in the Middle East, or that they are constantly inundated with intelligence, so much so, such there was no way to analyse it all in a timely fashion, even when told loud clanging noises of preparations were heard from hundreds of kilometres away, are all ridiculous assertions presented by the media, aiding and abetting, the subsequent massive State war crimes of genocide and ethnic cleansing, by employing misappropriation of responsibility. “Look what they did! Now we have to exercise our Right to Defend Ourselves and genocide them off the map” Oil and Gas. The slaughter, destruction and genocide will be cheered along by the West and the media will be handing out ready to go “We all Stand For Israel”… Read more »
Exactly. I don’t see any of the down ticketers actually making their objections heard.
Why not?
The strength of world politics lobbying and the media by the Israeli state..
Don’t believe a word..
Are you getting it yet people….
Probably not..
Anyone watched Fat Pig News yet? Seems like a great take on the Laurence Fox saga:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aTC-8NYvvg
I hope you are not joining in the widespread media criticism of Israel claiming their intelligence failure was the principal fault. I would have thought the principal respondbility lays with the vicious Hmas people who planned and carried out the murders. How come we are to be responsible for violence against us on the basis we should find out before and take evasive action.
Biden has made the world less stable as did Obama and Clinton.
Interesting the Democrats in WWII were more interested in national security and worls settlements whereas since Johnson the Democrats have been almost isolationist and cetainly irresponsible.
Trouble is, all these debates have been poisoned by the wars in Riaq2 and Afganistan and the subsequent irresponsible sudden departures.
Disappointing Toby is so trusting of Tugenhat.
By all means criticise Owen Jones and his mates as often as possible but surely Toby knows the political elite are wholly unaccountable. The prople they appoint to quangos etc are far removed from the public in their life exoeriences, salary and attitudes, to say nothing of their opinions – ugh!