A Cold Dose of Reality in Ukraine: Straight from the Freezer Revisited

In April 2022, we wrote an extended analysis for the Daily Sceptic, entitled ‘Straight from the Freezer: The Cold War in Ukraine’. It was widely read and generated over 300 (mostly positive) comments from the site’s discerning readers. The popularity of the piece, we surmise, was because – true to the intent of the Daily Sceptics premise – the article presented a sober, fact-based, analysis in contrast to the feverish speculations contained in much media reportage.

Drawing upon our long engagement with strategic affairs going back to the Cold War, we advanced provisional conclusions based on what was observable, commonly agreed or understood to be known. Again, contrary to much of the agenda-ridden narratives of the mainstream media, the principal contention of our analysis was that it was wise to proceed with caution, acknowledge that facts on the ground were rare, and refute idle speculation or wishful thinking, particularly any which saw every move as a Russian military failure and a Ukrainian success. Understandable sentiments perhaps, but not ones necessarily based on reality.

Our analysis pointed to the historically complex background leading up to Russia’s invasion. For anyone interested in a serious engagement with the origins of the war, this defies easy notions of right versus wrong, especially considering extensive Western complicity in provoking Russia through its policy of NATO expansion eastwards. From the end of the Cold War onwards Russian politicians (as well as Western diplomats) of all persuasions implored Western leaders not to enlarge NATO up to its borders. But they did it anyway. Promises were broken and red lines were repeatedly crossed: a process that included Western meddling in Ukraine’s internal politics in ways guaranteed to disturb Russia’s geopolitical sensibilities.

Whether – through imprudence or hubris – Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is a mess of the West’s creation or whether it is, as some allege, the intentional engineering of a proxy war with Russia on the part of neo-conservative ideologues in Washington to weaken and destroy Russia, it was interesting to note how little media commentary acknowledged this complicated history. To the extent that it did, it was often to scold those ‘realist’ scholars of international relations who had long foreseen these events. This ‘shoot-the-messenger’ attitude expressed by media commentators was itself telling: a degree of denial for sure, but also an implicit admission that the warnings of these analysts should not have gone unheeded.

Our article concluded that the direction of the war was likely to remain confused and uncertain, especially given how little we knew of Russian objectives or her concept of operations. We suggested the likelihood was that the war would for the foreseeable future be substantially immobile and would assume the contours of frozen conflict: a war of attrition, with little movement on either side.

Eighteen months later, it is opportune to review this assessment and discern what we broadly got right and what we might have missed. While the historical rights and wrongs can still be debated, it is how things have been working out militarily on the ground, and the wider implications of the prolongation of the war, that will be the key factors that will shape the future direction of this conflict. This will be the central focus of our re-evaluation.

Same media, same old story

The early part of our original article examined Western media portrayals, which overwhelmingly told a story of Russian military folly and incompetence. Putin’s imminent collapse and overthrow were routinely predicted. Apparent setbacks for Russian forces around Kiev and various territorial withdrawals from some of the lands it had occupied in the east fuelled much of this heady sense of Ukrainian military success, backed by Western training and technology.

Eighteen months later and many of these suppositions have been disproved through the war’s prolongation. Interestingly, though, little appears to have changed in the media landscape. A vast swathe of commentary over the past year has continued to present a litany of Russian disunity and miscalculation, with every piece of information interpreted as a sign of Vladimir Putin’s vulnerability and internal weakness, the likelihood of his overthrow, and the relentless failures of Russian military performance. Meanwhile, Ukrainian breakthroughs and military advances have been extolled. Typical of the genre was an article in early October by Ben Wallace, former U.K. Defence Secretary, who proclaimed: “Whisper it if you need. Dare to think it. But champion it you must. Ukraine’s counteroffensive is succeeding. Slowly but surely, the Ukrainian armed forces are breaking through the Russian lines. Sometimes yard by yard, sometimes village by village, Ukraine has the momentum and is pressing forward.”

Rousing though such exhortations are, these kinds of claims do not match reality. Russian defences have not been seriously dented. Putin’s hold on power is not imperilled and support for his regime is not evidentially slipping. To the extent that Putin’s rule has been internally questioned, it has been from voices that wish him to prosecute the war more forcefully. Likewise, Ukraine’s much heralded counteroffensive has by all accounts not been impressive. Some forward villages have been taken, but these miniscule territorial gains have been offset by Russian land seizures elsewhere.

The global media panorama is, of course, vast. In the acres of news coverage of the war, it would be unfair to characterise all reportage as deficient or unsophisticated. Nevertheless, the continued preponderance of agenda-ridden commentary at the expense of fact-based analysis suggests that a great deal of the mainstream media is still not engaged in a consistently honest endeavour to report the war objectively. It is, for example, regrettable that outlets of high repute for coverage of geopolitical and military affairs, such as the Daily Telegraph, issue an endless stream of over-optimism regarding Ukraine’s prospects of winning.

Whether such distortions derive from the editorial offices, a susceptibility to Government lobbying or a belief that it is a message that people wish to hear, dispassionate analysis it is not. It is fundamentally unserious commentary that plays its part in reinforcing growing public mistrust of legacy media. The result is that for dependably thoughtful and penetrating assessments of the war, its military dynamics and geopolitical implications, no one looking for any temperate analysis would turn to established newspapers, television outlets or even think-tanks, but to independent content providers such as the Duran, Perun, and the Caspian Report.

The Military State of Play

Turning to the military dynamics, our previous article noted a multiplicity of problems that routinely afflicted Russian and formerly Soviet forces but was careful not to write them off. The piece observed that Russia’s military had shown in several theatres, including the Second Chechen War and in Syria, that it was capable of adaptation. Russian intent in Ukraine is not 100% clear. Given that all war is a sphere of uncertainty, this is to some extent expected. What we can deduce from Russia’s actions thus far, however, indicates that its ‘special military operation’ was always focused on capturing the eastern and south-eastern oblasts of Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson. To that end, the withdrawals from the partial encirclement of Kiev and Kharkiv (Kharkov) were not full-blown retreats as presented by Western Governments and media but likely strategic moves to divert Ukrainian forces from the Azov coast and east.

Having secured the capture of these regions, Russia moved to adopt a defensive posture with an emphasis on artillery and fortified positions. The pattern of the war has consequently fallen into one of a slow, grinding attrition, as we predicted. Attrition suggests a stalemate like the First World War. However, this mode of war and its prolongation and lack of mobility on the frontlines does not of itself speak to any lack of strategic intent.

Manoeuvre versus attrition

Operational planning in wars involving the clash of orthodox armed forces in battle is often based around balancing the concepts of manoeuvre and attrition. The smaller, professionalised, high technology orientation of most Western armed forces tend to emphasise manoeuvre-based approaches, that is, striking and gaining decisions quickly via wars of rapid movement involving combined arms, especially airpower and precision guided munitions. ‘Shock and awe’ tactics, as evidenced in the first Gulf War of 1990/91 and the invasion of Iraq in 2003, are designed to have political effects to psychologically overwhelm an opponent, forcing a decision through the speed of advance and the seizure or destruction of command-and-control centres.

Through its counteroffensive, Western trained Ukrainian forces have been intent on seeking a manoeuvreist approach to secure breakthroughs and to reclaim Russian occupied territory. The strategic intent appears that even if the re-capture of all lost ground is not possible, the momentum of a Ukrainian advance can put sufficient pressure on the Russian position to force negotiations on favourable terms. The problem is that manouevrist approaches tend to work only in specific circumstances, for example against relatively unsophisticated opponents (such as the Iraqi army in 1991 and 2003) that lack hardened defensive capabilities; or they succeed for a limited time, only until the other side has had a chance to stabilise and get back on its feet, as the Soviet Union did after the initial setbacks suffered at the hands of the German following Operation Barbarossa in 1941.

Running up against more organised opposition always risks a war of attrition, which is what we see happening in Ukraine. In other words, to regain military momentum requires one to go through a process of attrition, to grind down the other side to a point where movement on the battlefield can be re-gained. This may be the intention of Western-backed Ukrainian forces: to waste Russian military assets, weaken its defensive front line and secure a breakthrough, which can then be exploited. A protracted war might undermine Putin’s popularity at home, making him vulnerable to a coup by more moderate politicians amenable to compromise and withdrawal from conquered lands (a set of suppositions which we have suggested lacks any understanding of Russian historical sensibilities). Conversely, the Russian side is likely pursuing a double-pronged attrition strategy: 1) establishing defensive fortifications that seek to wear down Ukrainian forces on the offensive, 2) eroding the will of Western powers to continue financing and supplying Ukraine over the long term.

Who benefits from attrition-based war?

The central question arising from any military analysis is which side does an attrition strategy favour? The evidence thus far would suggest it redounds to the Russian advantage for the following reasons. First, it is simply that Russia is by far the largest combatant, capable of mobilising greater quantities of troops and resources vis-à-vis Ukraine.

Secondly, it is doubtful that the supply of superior weaponry such as the Storm Shadow missile or ageing Leopard and Challenger tanks or F-16 jets to Ukraine is going to change the balance of forces. Western forces simply do not possess sufficient weapons stocks, still less the capacity to help Ukraine deploy such forces quickly or effectively in the field in ways that are likely to have any long-term impact. There are already signs that Western arsenals are being depleted.

Thirdly, anticipating Ukraine’s counteroffensive (signalled for months on end by the ramping up of Western military supplies and media reports) allowed the Russians to prepare their defences and draw the Ukrainians into cauldrons of artillery fire and landmines, eradicating what is reported to be tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops and weaponry, while the defenders’ losses have been relatively small. The Ukrainian counteroffensive therefore has not amounted to anything in terms of territorial gains beyond the capture of parcels of land that are ultimately unlikely to worry Russian military planners if their goal is to force the opposition to waste itself on fruitless forward assaults.

Accurate casualty figures are hard to verify, though reports have suggested that hundreds of thousands have perished, including 400,000 on the Ukrainian side. Other statistics claim the casualty figures to be much less. Yet the fact that Ukraine is talking increasingly of a general mobilisation indicates that it is feeling the pressure on this front. The inference is that Russian forces have adapted sufficiently to attrition warfare to place Ukraine in a military bind in that it is not strong enough to make major breakthroughs in Russia’s frontlines or to prosecute the war without Western help.

Who benefits from the prolongation of the war?

The other important question that follows is which side is likely to benefit from the prolongation of the war the most? Is Russia likely to be sufficiently weakened economically and politically? This seems to be the thinking of U.S. policymakers, namely that supporting the Ukrainians in fighting the Russians over a protracted period is a strategic instrument to weaken Russia. Backing Ukraine against Russia is therefore a “direct investment“, to quote Senator Mitch McConnell, because it does not involve the use of U.S. ground troops in any direct confrontation. The problem is that if this is the strategic rationale it undermines the moral case that the conflict is about preserving Ukrainian sovereignty and democracy. Instead, this rationale suggests that the collective West is using Ukrainian forces to do the fighting and dying in a proxy war against Russia.

The key strategic issue, then, is about who can outlast whom in a battle of attrition between Russia and its backers and Western nations? Our initial article referenced an opinion piece in the Daily Telegraph by Sherelle Jacobs who argued that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was a defining moment that was galvanising the West into re-discovering a sense of collective purpose.

We expressed scepticism and suggested that only time would tell if a newly found Western unity was the outcome. Subsequent events have validated such wariness. Western solidarity is being sorely tested as the war drags on. The failure of financial sanctions against Russia has emphasised Western economic weakness and dealt a significant blow to the West’s strategic position. The war has merely underlined the fact that Russia, as a primary producer of key resources like oil and gas, and China an industrial power, have in some respects emerged strengthened.

The revelation of European energy dependence on Russian oil and gas exports was a particularly salutary reminder of the economic complexities engendered by the war. The sabotage of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline has been one of notable curiosities in this respect. The idea that it was Russia that blew up its own infrastructure (when it could have simply turned a stopcock) has been yet one more reason to doubt Western governmental and media narratives. One must be obtuse not to detect some level of U.S. complicity in or knowledge of the destruction of Nord Stream 2, the outcome of which has been to render the German economy dependent on American energy supplies.

Having forsaken energy independence and de-industrialised their economies, Western countries fired their one and only financial weapon, only to see it go off half-cock. The economic sanctions applied against Russia have only inspired both Russia and China to create alternative financial mechanisms, which along with various de-dollarisation initiatives over the long term threaten to corrode Western economic primacy even further.

Crucial to the failure of Western sanctions has been the lack of support for these measures across the world. Many countries perceive high minded Western talk of defending democracy as bogus, pointing to an unbroken record of U.S and Western interference, covert operations, regime change operations and military adventurism, of which meddling in Ukrainian internal politics prior to 2022 is seen as all of a piece. Key regional actors like Brazil, India and Saudi Arabia have been alienated by the stridency of the West’s ‘with us or against us’ attitude over war. In conditions where Western economic clout is less than it was, states across the globe are concluding that they do not have to choose a side and are antagonised when they are imposed upon to do so. In the words of Indian External Affairs Minister, Dr. Subrahmanyam Jaishankar, “Europe has to grow out of the mindset that Europe’s problems are the world’s problems“.

What is happening in the West?

The fissures between the West and Rest also preface serious internal political divisions inside Western states themselves. The cost of aiding Ukraine is becoming a domestic political issue, most notably in the U.S. and Germany, with current estimates that the bill has reached over $900 per person in the U.S. and is already becoming an electoral fault-line in American politics. The point is that a lack of domestic consensus almost always dooms support for wars of choice in the West, threatening yet again to make Ukraine a re-run of the failures of U.S. and Western policy from Vietnam to Afghanistan.

Beyond the vague, open-ended rhetoric to save the world from tyranny, it is hard to fathom any discernible Western policy objectives. What is the strategic purpose behind the war? Is it to ‘liberate’ Ukraine? Is it to ‘defend democracy’? Is it to overthrow Putin? Collapse and divide Russia? If so, why and with what purpose in mind is this a feasible or worthwhile objective? Does Russia, itself, pose a vital threat to U.S. and Western interests?

Expansive ideas about fighting to preserve the ‘liberal international order’ negate these hard-headed but necessary questions. Current Western declaratory goals, insofar as it is possible to detect any, are unbounded and specify little that is tangible or comprehensible to anyone with a degree of appreciation of strategic matters. How do any of goals translate into achievable military objectives on the ground, beyond keeping the war going indefinitely and hoping that something turns up?

Without Western support, Ukraine would not be able to sustain its resistance, so the choice to some degree resides with the U.S. about how this conflict comes to an end: through the search for a compromise settlement, through continuing the conflict in the anticipation that Russia gives up or that Putin is overthrown and replaced by a thus far nowhere-in-sight set of liberal progressives, or through escalating the war with the aim of re-framing the conflict in more existential terms as straight fight with Russia, expanding the boundaries of the conflict into the realms of a total war.

If the war is indeed seen by Western policy makers as an existential struggle of the ‘Free World’ against the forces of autocracy then it requires a unified Western response, total support from home populations and a potential willingness to escalate the conflict. But escalate to what? Western troops in Ukraine, directly confronting Russian forces? Escalation to the nuclear level? In what reality is any of this prudent or wise? Even at its most benign, Western strategy simply appears to be mimicking all the flawed thinking evident in the recent foreign policy misadventures: ill-thought through interventions with no clear idea how the war is meant to end.

Conclusion: the Western enigma

The lack of any obvious answers to such crucial questions points up, perhaps, that in as much as the Russia-Ukraine war is a manifestation of geopolitical rivalries, it is also a mirror to our fractured societies at home: a war waged by policy elites in the name of ‘cosmopolitan’ values that are not really all that cosmopolitan in that they are not shared by a majority of countries or even by a broad consensus at home. Under their guidance, Western geo-strategy has merely succeeded is in driving much of the world into a putatively anti-Western camp and further divided their societies internally.

A cynic might see the newly erupted conflict in Israel and Palestine as a convenient means for the collective West to revive its esprit des corps. Obviously the situation in and around Gaza is not directly related to the Ukraine war, but it has enabled Western powers to show that peace and democracy are once again threatened by mortal hazards, justifying a strong military alliance. Suddenly Western leaders are singing from the same hymn sheet again, denouncing Israel’s foes and standing in unison. But for how long, we wonder?

Our initial article concluded that it was Russian strategy and objectives in Ukraine that were a continuing mystery, wrapped in an enigma, to rehearse Winston Churchill’s famous aphorism in relation to Russia’s foreign policy. Eighteen months later and we confess we missed something important. It is Western strategy that is the enigma: a mystery wrapped in confusion, inside a prism of incoherence.

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Atlantic Crossing
Atlantic Crossing
2 years ago

Finally, a grown up discussion about the Ukraine War. I would be interested to hear Ian Rons counterbalance to this well thought out article.

Smudger
2 years ago

Please, please, no!

porgycorgy
porgycorgy
2 years ago

At last the DS is printing some sane assessment – 100% accurate and ‘on the money’. Everyone who has been busy researching what has really been going on can appreciate this assessment. I also recommend the conversations of Professor Jeffrey Sachs with Andrew Napolitano. Doug MacGregor is also an excellent analyst. Please please please STOP feeding us Ian Rons’ rubbish – it is an insult to our intelligence and unworthy of the Daily Sceptic.

GlassHalfFull
2 years ago

A very good article.
However, there is no “stalemate” or “freezing” on Russia’s part, it is a deliberate ploy.
Russia ignores territorial gains for a war of attrition.
Russia are using “rope-a-dope” tactics to deplete Ukraine of men and Nato equipment so that Russia can go on the counter offensive once Ukraine have little resistance to offer after their failed “counteroffensive”.
A Russian advance to the Dnieper River or all the way to the Polish border is a distinct possibility to achieve the stated goals of the SMO and complete subjugation of Ukraine.
Russia would prefer a diplomatic solution but the West cannot be trusted.

For a fist full of roubles

This conflict has highlighted the inability of the West’s intelligence services to understand the situation, of their military strategists to analyse the battlefield situation effectively and their tacticians to advise their client state on how to operate appropriately.
Instead these cloth-eared dolts fail to listen to what Russia is saying and rewrite the script, failing to appreciate that it is for a completely different play in a theatre that is like no other that they have performed in.

Jon Garvey
2 years ago

Some recent “balanced” US article urged that things would be better if Conservatives were as sceptical of Russian propaganda as they are of Western propaganda.

Since the Western governments censored all Russian media outlets at the very start of the war in which they are not participants, one must assume that “Russian propaganda” means articles like this, which marshal verifiable facts, show how empty and self-interested Western policies have been all along (as demonstrated by their abject failure), and, most of all, are actually logical.

If I’m forced to choose my propaganda machine, I’m afraid there’s no contest.

JXB
JXB
2 years ago

I think the time for a negotiated settlement has passed. What exactly do Ukraine and USA/EU have to offer in negotiation? And in exchange for what? Russia, withdrawing? Agreeing to NATO expansion?

So one side has nothing to offer and the other would have to make all the concessions.

In terms of territory, Russia has what it wants. Relax economic sanctions? Russia is doing well enough as it is. Promise no NATO enlargement? Russia has no reason to believe that.

WWII happened because Germany in 1918 was not defeated, did not unconditionally surrender. It was an Armistice – both sides just stopped fighting neither having gained anything, but at enormous cost. The Armistice was just a 20 year cease-fire.

My view is Russia will want unconditional surrender. Ukraine will either be returned to being part of Russia, or be some kind of protectorate, Russian controlled territory.

  • One of the oldest rules in American gangland was formulated by Murray “the Camel” Humphreys of the Capone mob in Chicago: “If you ever have to cock a gun in a man’s face, kill him. If you walk away without killing him after doing that, he’ll kill you the next day.”
Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  JXB

Germany was comprehensively defeated in 1918. That is why their fleet lies on the sea floor at Scapa Flow.

Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

‘Ludendorff described the opening day of the battle as “the black day of the German Army in the history of this war…Everything I had feared, and of which I had so often given warning, had here, in one place, become a reality.” When Ludendorff informed German emperor William II of the disaster at Amiens, William replied, “We have reached the limits of our capacity. The war must be terminated.”  ‘….the destruction of Berlin’s bargaining position. The first was a series of nationalist revolutions in Austria-Hungary at the end of October. Poland, Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia emerged at the former Dual Monarchy’s expense, while the remainders of its Austrian and Hungarian halves separated. On 31 October Ottoman Turkey also signed a ceasefire, partly because Bulgaria’s surrender had opened the road for Allied armies to reach Istanbul. If Germany fought on now, it would do so alone. But the final blow was revolution in Germany itself. It began when the navy prepared a suicidal final sortie against the Thames estuary and London. Once the battleships began to get up steam, their crews mutinied. The warships put in to shore at Kiel, and the sailors joined hands with munitions workers to raise the red flag. Revolution spread… Read more »

Monro
2 years ago

No clue, absolutely no clue at all….

The U.S. has explicitly stated its strategy but no mention to be found here.

The Russian Federation now controls Belarus and, after Ukraine, seeks control of Moldova, evidenced from its own strategy documents.

This is an uninformed, silly, laughably self important and rather pompous article.

huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

We look forward to your detailed rebuttal.

Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

‘Our initial article concluded that it was Russian strategy and objectives in Ukraine that were a continuing mystery’

Nope

‘…the strategy document, according to one Western official with direct knowledge of its construction, belongs to the Presidential Directorate for Cross-Border Cooperation, a subdivision of Putin’s Presidential Administration……strategy document is divided into two parts. The first lists Russia’s goals in the short-term (2022), mid-term (2025) and long-term (2030)….the end goal is the formation of a so-called Union State of Russia and Belarus by no later than 2030.’

More follows…

Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

‘…it was Russian strategy and objectives in Ukraine that were a continuing mystery’

Nope

‘November 2020, the FSB’s strategic objective in Moldova was to bring about ‘The full restoration of the strategic partnership between Moldova and the Russian Federation’.

FSB Outline of Operational Aims and Means, 21 November 2021.

‘…..Western strategy that is the enigma’

Nope

‘Washington wants to see Russian forces “weakened to the degree that it can’t do the kinds of things that it has done in invading Ukraine.”

May 2022

Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

‘Western geo-strategy has merely succeeded is in driving much of the world into a putatively anti-Western camp and further divided their societies internally.’

Yes…..but what do we really expect if we keep voting for Blair, Brown, Biden, Bunter……

Maybe just never vote for anyone with a name beginning with B?

Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

‘Russian strategy and objectives in Ukraine that were a continuing mystery…’ Nope ‘It is impossible to foresee in advance exactly in which territories such a mass of the population will constitute a critically needed majority. The “Catholic province” (Western Ukraine as part of five regions) is unlikely to become part of the pro-Russian territories. The line of alienation, however, will be found empirically. It will remain hostile to Russia, but forcibly neutral and demilitarized Ukraine with formally banned Nazism. The haters of Russia will go there. The threat of an immediate continuation of the military operation in case of non-compliance with the listed requirements will be the the guarantee of the preservation of this residual Ukraine in a neutral state. Perhaps this will require a permanent Russian military presence on its territory. There will be a territory of potential integration into Russian civilization, which is anti-fascist in its internal nature, based on the border with the exclusion line to the Russian border.’ ‘…the necessary initial steps of denazification can be defined as follows: — liquidation of armed Nazi formations (which refers to any armed formations of Ukraine, including the Armed Forces of Ukraine), as well as the military, information, and… Read more »

Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

‘Russian strategy and objectives in Ukraine that were a continuing mystery’

Nope

“Ukraine has returned to Russia,”

‘”The West sees the return of Russia to its historical borders in Europe.”

‘”The period of the split of the Russian people is coming to an end,”

“Did someone in the old European capitals, in Paris and Berlin, seriously believe that Moscow would give up Kiev? That the Russians will forever be a divided people?”

“The West as a whole, and even more so Europe in particular, did not have the strength to keep Ukraine in its sphere of influence,”

“In order not to understand this, one had to be just geopolitical fools.”

8 a.m. timestamp, February 26, 2022

Oops……

Christian Moon
Christian Moon
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

And Barack ‘bama?

Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

‘…it was Russian strategy and objectives in Ukraine that were a continuing mystery’

Nope

‘President Putin set out his reasons for invading Ukraine in a televised address, he described how the Soviet Union had been broken up by ‘a truly fatal document, the so-called ethnic policy of the party in modern conditions’. Putin described how by empowering the constituent nationalities of the USSR, ‘It is now that radicals and nationalists, including and primarily those in Ukraine, are taking credit for having gained independence. As we can see, this is absolutely wrong. The disintegration of our united country was brought about by the historic, strategic mistakes on the part of the Bolshevik leaders’

President of Russia, ‘Address by the President of the Russian Federation’, transcript, 21 February 2022,

‘…the consequence of this mistake – which his policy in Ukraine aimed to correct – was not restricted to Ukraine but also encompassed Belarus, Moldova and the Baltic states.’

The Death Throes of an Imperial Delusion

Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

‘…..so the choice to some degree resides with the U.S. about how this conflict comes to an end’

Nope

‘”Ukraine holds its lines and will never surrender,” Zelensky

‘….surrender is not an option for Vladimir Putin’

92.3% of Ukrainians voted for independence in 1991, majorities in all provinces.

That is what real nationalism looks like and it isn’t going away in Ukraine ….not now, not ever.



Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

‘Running up against more organised opposition always risks a war of attrition, which is what we see happening in Ukraine.’ Nope ‘The slow pace of the pressure campaign Ukraine had been using before July 26 is designed to minimize Ukrainian losses. It is not primarily oriented towards attriting Russians either, but rather towards steadily forcing the Russians out of their prepared defensive positions in ways that the Ukrainians can take advantage of to make operationally significant advances. It is still manouevre warfare rather than attritional warfare, just at a slower pace. It therefore requires patience, but it can succeed.’ ‘The Ukrainians have been successful with such an approach both in Kherson and in the Kharkiv counteroffensive. The rapid collapse of Russian positions around Kharkiv in October 2022 was the result of months of steady Ukrainian pressure on the ground and in the rear. Ukrainian forces stopped determined Russian advances around Izyum in southeastern Kharkiv Oblast and then launched their own limited counterattacks in mid-September 2022. They targeted Russian logistics hubs and concentration areas behind the front lines for months before launching their decisive effort. That effort caught the Russians by surprise, leading to the sudden collapse of Russian defenses and rapid,… Read more »

Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

‘The Ukrainian counteroffensive therefore has not amounted to anything in terms of territorial gains beyond the capture of parcels of land that are ultimately unlikely to worry Russian military planners’

Nope

‘….the Ukrainians only have to win and hold in one sector to render virtually all the Russian-held territory west of their advance untenable. The Russians have to win everywhere all the time. The Ukrainians don’t even have to make it all the way to the water. The GLOC (ground line of communication) does not hug the coast all the way, for one thing, and is thus closer to the current front lines in some areas than the shoreline. If the Ukrainians can push to within artillery range of the GLOC (about 25 kilometers), moreover, they can begin to shell it intensively in a way that would badly degrade the Russians’ ability to continue to use it. The Ukrainians are thus free to choose any sector of the line or take advantage of any hole that opens anywhere in the line, to push to cut the GLOC in a way very likely to collapse the Russian defenses west of that break.’

Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

‘….it is hard to fathom any discernible Western policy objectives. What is the strategic purpose behind the war?’ The ‘West’ is not fighting a war. Only two erstwhile soviet regions are fighting a war. ‘How do any of goals translate into achievable military objectives on the ground, beyond keeping the war going indefinitely’ Finally, you get there! Give yourself a big pat on the back! ‘This situation is not a stalemate, however, and won’t become a stalemate if the current Ukrainian push falls short of expectations or bogs down again after initial successes. Stalemate occurs when neither side can materially change the situation and there is no meaningful prospect that either side will be able to do so in the future. The Ukrainians have not yet demonstrated that they can make rapid and dramatic penetrations at this time, but neither have the Russians shown that they can sustain their current defensive approach against a protracted and probably increasingly effective Ukrainian pressure campaign. The Ukrainians still have the initiative in the theatre overall and especially in the south. They choose when, where, and how they will attack. The Russians must defend everywhere and always. The theatre geometry may come to play… Read more »

Christian Moon
Christian Moon
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

Thanks for taking the time to offer this perspective. I couldn’t see why it all had so many downvotes until I saw how emotional people were in some of the counter comments.

My own guess is that Putin will end up dictating terms for the disposal of the whole of Ukraine (and Transnistria), but I doubt if that has quite the dire implications for the West that you foresee.

Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  Christian Moon

Many thanks for your comment.

This morning’s news of an attack on communications cables and a gas pipeline (both ‘extensively damaged’) between Finland and Estonia by ‘external activity’ is not encouraging.

The journey towards ‘dire implications’ begins with a single step……

Atlantic Crossing
Atlantic Crossing
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

Your constant hijacking and disruption of the comments section with your loosely jointed ramblings is becoming very tiresome. If you are so confident in the righteousness of your thoughts, why don’t you submit an article to the Daily Sceptic with a properly formulated, coherent and thoughtful counter argument.

We can then comment on your uninformed, silly, laughably self important and rather pompous article.

Of course I would also expect you not to hide behind a pseudonym, so we can check out your credentials and credibility.

Monro
2 years ago

I refer you to the original comment to which I replied.

Corky Ringspot
2 years ago

Monro was challenged by the ubiquitous, omniscient “Huxleypiggles” to produce a “detailed rebuttal”, which is what he seems to have done. I’m not a cheerleader for either side at this point, having seen good evidence for both arguments, but I’d encourage Monro to do exactly as you suggest (also in very slightly pompous tones, it has to be said) and send in a reworked version of his comments for proper publication. This “constant hijacking” of the comments section simply suggests that Monro has a lot to say and that less well-informed commenters have little to say in response. Again, I’ve no idea if he’s right or wrong, but your ad hominem indignation in response to a series of objective comments – in a comment section – doesn’t really help things along.

Jon Smith
2 years ago

This article is missing a paramount fact regarding Zelenskys Jewish heritage and the reason why he was placed in power in 2014.

Smudger
2 years ago
Reply to  Jon Smith

After the carnage unleashed by Zelensky surely the UKrainian people will want nothing to do with the carpet bagging America and its allies including Israel.

Monro
2 years ago

‘no clear idea how the war is meant to end.’

Maybe try considering which countries have any interest in the war ending?

There are only two, both of Soviet origin and thinking, so both understand that the other will never adhere to any negotiated settlement.

Then consider that the origins of this war go back as far as 1917.

Its progress is, consequently, unlikely to have any ending whatsoever within the foreseeable future.

Then ask yourself with whose strategy that best fits?

After a bit of research, you might then have an article worth writing.

This one clearly was not.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

What would US President Monro do?

Monro
2 years ago

You’re looking at it.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

Sorry I’m a bit dimwitted and don’t do subtle – do you mean you broadly support the current approach of the US and other “allied” powers with regard to the Ukraine situation?

Monro
2 years ago

Correct (the second bit, not the dimwitted bit, obviously).

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

OK, thanks

Monro
2 years ago

Many of my posts above refer.

It is plain, evidenced, that Putin has expansionist plans to incorporate Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova into the Russian Federation.

It seems pretty clear that, given propitious circumstances, an enfeebled U.S., NATO increasingly fractured, say, Russia would be quite likely then to move on the Baltic States.

That would leave Britain no choice but to declare war.

Consequently present U.S./U.K. actions designed to prevent Russia from continuing to possess the means, or indeed the political will, required to pursue that sequence of actions seem eminently sensible to me.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

It seems pretty clear that, given propitious circumstances, an enfeebled U.S., NATO increasingly fractured, say, Russia would be quite likely to move on the Baltic States.”

Well, the Baltic States are members of NATO. That would be a significant escalation.

Monro
2 years ago

Yes but then both the U.S and Britain guaranteed Ukraine’s territorial integrity in 1994 so the annexation of Crimea in 2014 was a significant escalation……

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

Maybe, but I don’t think that’s close to attacking NATO

Monro
2 years ago

Nevertheless, given ‘propitious circumstances’ perhaps around 2050, a ‘little green man’ false flag coup de main within one of the Baltic States is certainly conceivable, one of the reasons why Ukrainian membership of NATO is a really bad idea….

This is a very long game, somewhat similar to ‘The Great Game’ on India’s borders in the nineteenth century.

And, in a long view, a great deal more dangerous.

That is why we have finally (kind of) stepped up to our obligations that we signed up to in The Budapest Memorandum of 1994.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

I can’t see any end to it though

Monro
2 years ago

Well, it has, arguably, been going on (and off) since 1917, if not before, so I very much stand with you in that view.

Monro
2 years ago

This morning, as if on cue:

‘Gas prices surge as Russia suspected of sabotaging pipeline’

Finland’s President: ‘It is likely that damage to both the gas pipeline and the communication cable (between Finland and Estonia) is the result of external activity’

I am posting this stuff on here because I am an erstwhile ‘cold war warrior’ who has looked across the East German border and been horrified at the sight.

And it could (almost certainly will) be coming to a town near me (and my family) down the road if this country, NATO, does not stand firm and together.

We here in Britain are not so very far from events in Ukraine, Gaza, as many of us appear to believe……as the Manchester Arena bombing, London Bridge stabbing, Skripal/Bailey/Sturgess/Rowley poisonings have quite clearly demonstrated.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

You could argue that Manchester and London happened precisely because we like to interfere in the world but at the same time are happy to import large numbers of people among whom are those who are our avowed enemies. As for the poisonings, I think those are of a different order of magnitude.

Monro
2 years ago

You could certainly argue both of those things.

The use of a biological agent on British soil, the killing of a British citizen, severe injuries to a British Policeman, by ‘external actors’ (Petrov and Boshirov, Russian ex FSB officers) makes it clear that that the Russian Federation maintains an offensive biological weapons program and is in violation of its obligation under Articles I and II of the biological weapons convention.

For me, that is an order of magnitude of great concern.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

Maybe, but I doubt that Russia wishes to destroy the UK or subjugate it.

Anyway this is all academic as Europe is committing suicide.

Monro
2 years ago

Can you be sure of Russian intentions, in the long view?

If you wish for peace, then prepare for war.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

I think you certainly have to be prepared to defend yourself, yes. Whether our involvement in this war furthers that aim or does the opposite is debatable.

Monro
2 years ago

That question turns on whether the conflict spills across into NATO members.

The Baltic States, Finland, Sweden, Poland clearly see that as a realistic possibility.

After all, it wouldn’t be the first time in recent memory.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

I think circumstances were very different then.

Monro
2 years ago

They are even more different now that Finland, Sweden, are joining NATO, Poland has bought 1250 tanks and the rest.

They are closer to the action than we are and see the threat a great deal more clearly.

I recommended sending a coalition Army Corps to Poland in 2014 in response to the Russian annexation of Crimea; conventional deterrence.

Had we done that, we would have saved ourselves a great deal of treasure and Ukraine a great deal of blood…..

If you wish for peace, then prepare for war.

Smudger
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

I am posting this stuff on here because I am an erstwhile ‘cold war warrior’ who has looked across the East German border and been horrified at the sight”.
You May be looking through the wrong end of your telescope. Some of us see real horrors emerging right here on our doorsteps in our inner cities and former industrial towns.

Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  Smudger

If I was looking the wrong way through my binoculars then so were the East German border guards in their ‘goon’ towers.

A telescope is not required for me domestically.

Radicals within Britain are easily emboldened. Narwhal tusks are inadequate to the threat.

If we wish for peace, we must prepare for war.

EppingBlogger
2 years ago

There will be various reactionc to this interesting article in respect of policies now to be adopted. It seems to me the west must reopen munitions factories or build new ones and supply the Ukrainians with enough arms to complete the job of ejecting the Russians.

Whatever the merits of the assessments in the article, to withdraw support now would be the worst of all worlds for the Ukrainians and the west and numerous former Russian colonies around its borders.

Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

They never closed.

Government-owned, contractor-operated (GOCO) Army ammunition plants serve a vital role in producing ammunition for the U.S. armed forces. Energetic and inert materiel components are produced at these plants, which also carry out the final assembly of complete rounds, such as artillery, bombs and small calibre ammunition…… KEEP THE AMMO COMING: Modernization projects are underway at six government-owned, contractor-operated Army ammunition plants to expand capacity, upgrade production lines and make other improvements.’

June 2021

Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
2 years ago

Just ask a few basic questions like Zelensky wearing khaki at this point in the conflict. That tells you everything you need to know about the tiredness of the operation. It was only ever meant to get you riled up while the bigger play went by unmolested. Honestly we are the Entglish and we should be looking to a higher level than this.

Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
2 years ago

They can put up that flag and cover up a thousand corrupt business deals not to mention very nasty research that was going on into race specific bioweapons. These are the people telling the masses how to think. It is quite a situation.

Pilla
Pilla
2 years ago

A much better article than Ian Rons’s atrocious one the other day. This seems to me to be well thought out and balanced. The only thing I would add is that the Israel/Gaza ‘thing’ could well be a false flag, amongst other things to distract our attention (such fools we are and so easily distracted) – Miri AF is good on this.