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NeilParkin
2 years ago

I hope you wont mind me mentioning. Last week was the sad news of the death of a Sheffield United Womens team player, Maddie Cusak.at 27. The story was questioning why there wasn’t more media interest in her passing, from the angle that this was another death that could be attributed to myocarditis and mRNA vaccines. I’m sad to say that it appears Maddie didn’t die from vaccine injury, but by her own hand.

While both stories (Maddie and vaccines) have their merit and interest, i do hope that this is a reminder that cause and effect are sometimes not so simple as declaring the favourite theory without knowledge of the facts. No doubt, there will be some who now want to switch her to a victim of lockdown instead. We just dont know. The facts will come out as time passes, and we should give truth that opportunity to emerge. Thank you.

Mogwai
2 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Do you have a link so we can read the details for ourselves? It’s not like people have stopped acknowledging that suicide happens, and in the young this is even more tragic, but in the world we now live in, with the majority of citizens in many countries having taken at least one shot of the toxic stuff ( and it was established that Maddie had ), it’s entirely reasonable to adopt the stance of ”it was the jab until proven otherwise”. That this would be the first thing people think of now and in the future is certainly not without justification. Sadly in Maddie’s case it was ”proven otherwise”, but some details would be appreciated please.

NeilParkin
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I’m afraid I don’t have that, and its unlikely to become public before the inquest. I’m only aware of this via club connections. I understand your comments, but I think assuming that death is always the result of the vaccine, unless otherwise known is a little dangerous. The key to being an effective sceptic is an open mind, not a echo chamber of our own design.

Mogwai
2 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

I’m just firmly agreeing with Dr Peter McCullough’s viewpoint on the matter, and given how expert he is and the evidence we now have of the damage they do, I think it’s safe to say that deaths directly attributed to the jabs are way more frequent than deaths from people committing suicide. I also read some rumours about Maddie dying by suicide but they were just comments from regular people posting on Telegram, therefore I wasn’t about to share mere unsubstantiated rumours on here. Until we get a source then they remain mere words or hearsay floating about the internet.

MichaelM
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I don’t think Peter McCullough said that all deaths should be assumed to be due to the vaccines “until proven otherwise”. Did he not say that deaths due to cardiac problems (and maybe some other categories as well) should be assumed to have been caused by “the jab until proven otherwise”?

Mogwai
2 years ago
Reply to  MichaelM

Maddie’s death was sudden and unexpected. We know she was jabbed. She was a young athlete, like many others who also meet the aforementioned criteria. No cause of death was disclosed in the press. What would be the first and most reasonable assumption to make, based on current available data and expert testimonies?

”From Dr. McCullough’s study: After surveying data from 325 autopsies, “a total of 270 deaths (73.9%) were independently adjudicated as directly due to or significantly contributed to by COVID-19 vaccination.” The review found that the primary organ system failure that caused death was the cardiovascular system (53% of cases). Says Dr. McCullough:

“Going forward in response to sudden unexplained deaths reported in the press, it is reasonable to conclude the cause of death is a fatal COVID-19 vaccine injury until proven otherwise.”

https://dailyclout.io/dr-mccullough-uncovers-smoking-gun-autopsies-found-74-of-deaths-related-to-mrna-vaccination/

WyrdWoman
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Er, that link is somewhat misleading. It seems to be implying that 73% of ALL deaths are due to jab related cardiovascular damage. In fact the paper looked at 325 autopsies in which ‘COVID-19 vaccination was the direct cause or contributed significantly to death’ – that is, all of them were covid deaths. The jab is clearly having a significant impact on excess deaths, but people are still dying of old age, injuries, accidents, etc etc. The link also looks far too much like an ad for the Wellness Company. The paper itself is linked here as the Lancet pulled it (no surprise there):

https://zenodo.org/record/8120771

Findings: The most implicated organ system in COVID-19 vaccine associated death was the cardiovascular system (53%), followed by the hematological system (17%), the respiratory system (8%), and multiple organ systems.’

There’s enough propaganda out there from govts and MSM, there’s no need for it on ‘our’ side too.

Mogwai
2 years ago
Reply to  WyrdWoman

Who are you accusing of spreading propaganda? Do you think I don’t acknowledge the reality that people will continue to die due to car crashes, drowning or being stabbed to death by a psychopath, irrespective of jab status, for instance? I suggest you reread my posts and keep to the context of the conversation as opposed to misinterpreting my point. If young, fit people are dying suddenly and unexpectedly in excess, with no known medical conditions, then I think it’s entirely reasonable and prudent to assume the jab is responsible until proven otherwise. If a person is involved in a fatal car crash and they happen to be jabbed then the “proven otherwise” part of this statement evidently applies here. I don’t expect everyone to agree with this standpoint but nevertheless it is my standpoint and will remain so. And given the comments on the article about Maddie recently I am certainly not in the minority.

huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

If young, fit people are dying suddenly and unexpectedly in excess, with no known medical conditions, then I think it’s entirely reasonable and prudent to assume the jab is responsible until proven otherwise.”

That has been my default position for a long time now. The logic is beyond argument. Of course a proper autopsy to confirm otherwise would suffice to correct the initial conclusion but unless those autopsies are carried out I’m with you Mogs.

WyrdWoman
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I was actually referring to the article in the link.

NeilParkin
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

To be fair Mogwai, I didn’t think I would be getting an argument out of what are some very simple words about the fate of a young woman. We can’t accept that, but can accept endless speculation about vaccines, sure. And downticks.? WTF..? You spineless tossers. I have nothing but contempt for you if you aren’t prepared to engage. Back to the case. I know what I know. If you can’t accept that at face value, you can stick it somewhere in the shade for all I care. I’m done on this subject.

Mogwai
2 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

How can somebody having a different opinion than you regarding something you say be dressed up as an ”argument”? And I wasn’t even disagreeing regarding what you say about Maddie’s death, merely asking for some sort of source. Why should I or anyone else accept what you say at face value? Isn’t that the whole point in maintaining scepticism? We await the evidence before making statements that we arrogantly assume everybody else should just accept on blind faith.
But good to see you showing your true colours there, Neil. Another lovely, pleasant and respectful poster to add to my growing list..Don’t forget to pick up your toys and put them back in your pram now..lol

ebygum
2 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

..this is not the official line..I agree that making assumptions is clearly daft..it’s always better to wait for evidence…

…but the only official stuff I have seen says the death is ‘not being treated as suspicious’..which indeed means she could have died from ‘natural causes’…including a ‘died suddenly heart attack’……..or not..

I haven’t seen any articles mentioning suicide…

huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

Since when did “died suddenly” become an official cause of mortality?

If somebody “dies suddenly” but has no obvious medical history to arouse concerns then given what has occurred these last three years the default position must be …

…it was the jab wot done it.

Or do a bloody autopsy and prove otherwise.

MichaelM
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

In this case, Neil has an inside track on the cause of death and I, for one, think we should take his word for it, rather than demand “proof”. Being sceptical about narratives put forward by the MSM does not mean that we should be sceptical about information supplied by regular contributors to this forum.

ebygum
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I think you misunderstand me in this instance …I wasn’t trying to say it was definitely a ‘died suddenly’..I don’t know…
…the official report is that the death is ‘not being treated as suspicious’…That means that it could be..suicide..an accident..or a ‘natural cause’..
just as an example I put heart attack (which could be died suddenly)..it could be a stroke or any other natural cause..

I suppose until we know the actual cause there isn’t much point is assuming yet….
….that’s not to say Neil’s info isn’t correct…

Brett_McS
2 years ago

The great liberal (in the classic sense) economist, John Tamny, explains that CBDCs could not be used to ‘control spending’ because, as with credit cards, no details of the items purchased are sent to the bank. Some other system, such as the Chinese Social Credit scheme, is required to do that.
Also, once people get used to digital currencies this would lower the barrier to take-up of competing, independent digital currencies that are not subject to manipulation (devaluation) by governments. Rather than a dystopian nightmare in the making, the introduction of CBDCs could actually end up white-anting government control of the currency, which would be a tremendous win for liberty.

True Spirit of America Party
True Spirit of America Party
2 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

That is perhaps a bit too optimistic, but I really hope you are correct. I still don’t think CBDC is a wise idea though on balance, as it is a very slippery slope towards social credit scoring and the government being able to turn someone’s digital wallet on and off at will.

Brett_McS
2 years ago

Of course CBDCs are a terrible idea. Tamny’s point is that it will likely backfire on the government.

Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
2 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

If you use a credit/debit card to pay for goods in the majority of shops your bank has a record of that transaction and since you get an itemised receipt presumably the shop has a record of your purchases and the card number that was used. It would be easy to cross reference the itemised receipt with the details of the transaction from your bank to build up a record of what you buy. The same would apply to CBDCs. In theory you could then get a bad social credit if you bought too many things, e.g. meat, that were declared ‘bad’. It isn’t as blatant and obvious as the Chinese Social Credit Scheme but could be used for the same purposes. The fact that it isn’t obvious makes it all the more dangerous as it can be introduced without people knowing what’s going on.

Brett_McS
2 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

You are describing a Chinese-style social credit system based on querying credit cards and store records, which could (in theory) be done right now. CBDCs are not necessary for this process, nor would they make it any easier because the purchased items are not conveyed to the central bank.

EppingBlogger
2 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

Following small transactions by credit card in the US recently I received a receipt by email. I had not given my address.

this suggests the card company is collecting transaction data in real time to provide a service to the retailer.

it is not much if a leap to controlling what is bought (“surely not another coffee today” )

besides, I don’t want HMG or Klaus’s friends knowing or controlling my expenditure even in aggregate.

We have read Sunak’s threat to introduce a national parking system using mobile phone apps. Of course we already have two national systems called cash and cards. The concern is HMG will not resist the temptation to track our movements. Perhaps intervening in real time to enforce 15 minute cities.

no doubt one of the commercial friends of the government have promoted this. Yes, Minister, for only £(insert large number) we can give you full control and take over all the cash flow from local authorities. Adding VAT will be easy. Small fee processing businesses will go to the wall as yet another artificial monopoly is set up by government.

DHJ
DHJ
2 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Controlled spending is done now to some extent. If the bank considers a transaction suspicious it is blocked and you are asked to call a fraud team. It could be blocked because of, for example, who is receiving payment (are they or their country sanctioned, are they a business?) or even because of software the bank has detected on the device you are making payment from (personal experience with a UK bank). If they don’t like your answers to their aggressive staff, including what the paymen is for, your account can be suspended until you go to a branch.

A bank has the location of a card payment and the general business of the recipient so geographic or blanket blocking could potentially be achieved without much change.

Scaling-up the process and justifying extra data for our ‘safety’ against climate/terrorism/disease etc would make granular control feasible.

Baldrick
Baldrick
2 years ago
Reply to  DHJ

But the current setup is presumably not on a large scale, as not programmable and automated. I think that is the point of CBDCs. We already have digital currency, and if you want true anomonity you use cash and not a credit card. And your superstore or third-party has no idea what you are spending, hence loyalty cards. However, with CDBC it is recorded in real-time in the block-chain- that is not happening at the moment. It would also, presumably be programmable. This money could be programmable in real time, so that you would, for instance only be allowed to spend your money on certain things or within a certain distnace of where you live, or indeed you would have to spend it within a time frame. All programmed bya central authority. In additon, presumably they could send personal financial information to any one they like- this comes from the digital id stuff the goverment sneakily pushed through this year. In that they could give any information about you to any one they want. Of course you would need a very good and reliable infrastructure, so the whole thing might just fall over on a regular basis. Maybe we would… Read more »

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  Baldrick

Exactly – it moves the ability to snoop and control closer to the state and takes one link out of the chain. Currently a bank may have the right legally to withhold information without a proper warrant.

DHJ
DHJ
2 years ago
Reply to  Baldrick

The practicalities of implementing such a system at a national/international level in real-time without destroying many livelihoods seems unlikely to burden a politicians mind. They will take the selective advice of experts who will tell them what to believe.

Once on that road, they will keep going regardless because to do otherwise is an admission of failure, or to highlight they have been a useful idiot for Other Interests.

MichaelM
2 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

“CBDCs could not be used to ‘control spending’ because, as with credit cards, no details of the items purchased are sent to the bank”

Not sure what you mean by “no details of the items purchased are sent to the bank”. They don’t need to be sent to the bank, because the bank already has them. I understand the system as effectively being everyone having a debit card with the central bank, with no other independent debit cards or credit cards.

ebygum
2 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

….I have a niece who lived in China for several years, and a friend who has had holidays there on numerous occasions..neither have ever used or witnessed any form of widespread social credit system.
I also ‘follow’ a few ex-pats in China, and they say it doesn’t exist either…not in the way the Western MSM says it does anyway…?

I think over the last three years, if our eyes weren’t open before..they are now …to the barrage of propaganda we have all been subjected to. I don’t think for one minute that China is a shining beacon of democracy, but I don’t think we will ever hear anything ‘positive’ from the MSM about Russia, China, Syria or Iraq to name a few…
..this should really give everyone pause for thought….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYnZREu-Mk
China’s “Social Credit Score System” – Fact or Fiction?

soundofreason
soundofreason
2 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

“CBDCs could not be used to ‘control spending’ because, as with credit cards, no details of the items purchased are sent to the bank.”

CBDCs (and card/direct payments) are most definitely used to control spending. Inhibiting the black economy is a significant control on spending; you may approve of such controls – or maybe not. A friend moved to rural France and discovered that barter economics is alive and well in his village, The exchange of Euros being pretty much a last resort if favours cannot be negotiated; building works in exchange for hunting access, wood fuel in exchange for livestock grazing. As little as possible goes through the books. CBDCs would definitely be an attempt to control and tax that ‘spending’.

huxleypiggles
2 years ago

https://lauradodsworth.substack.com/p/cbdcs-the-ultimate-tool-of-oppression

Even Laura Dodsworth fails to acknowledge that once CBDC’s are introduced everything we thought we owned has been taken from us. Everything.

MichaelM
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Please explain. I don’t understand how physical assets (car, golf clubs, house) are taken from you, unless laws related to ownership are also changed.

DHJ
DHJ
2 years ago
Reply to  MichaelM

Those items would be taken to cover council tax for example. Once you die, if you try and leave the property to a relative, they may have an insurmountable bill to pay e.g. to make it eco friendly. If they don’t, it goes to the Crown.

That’s possible now but becomes easier if an individuals ability to purchase food and energy is disrupted. They die faster.

huxleypiggles
2 years ago

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/30/nhs-to-ban-useful-anaesthetic-hit-net-zero-targets/

It will be heartening to know as you lie on the gurney waiting for the anaesthetist to put you under prior to life-saving surgery that success or not at least you have not contributed to global boiling.

FFS!

BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

How on earth does this action improve patient care? It has the potential to make surgical operations more risky, though that does fit with the National Holocaust Service aiding the depopulation agenda by its stupid actions.

huxleypiggles
2 years ago

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/30/it-may-be-too-late-to-win-the-election-but-rishi-find-mojo/

Another arse licking piece from the ever reliable fake Dan Hannan. There’s just one problem Dan – Fishy isn’t the governor, ergo he isn’t governing.

Do keep up.

MichaelM
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Well said. None of us should be fooled by Dan’s pronouncements, even when his line is apparently counter-narrative.

huxleypiggles
2 years ago

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/30/black-lives-matter-hysteria-made-fools-of-us-all/

According to Michael Deacon at the Torygraph, in the Summer of 2020 as the BLM thugs took over the streets the rest of us went mad in support. And this guy is being paid for this tripe?

The BLM riots were planned and orchestrated and frequently involved a high degree of thuggery which for some reason Plod didn’t know how to deal with.

Lazy garbage.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

It’s bizarre – how can he be so up himself that he thinks “all” were fooled? These people seem to live in a bubble where everyone else thinks the same as they do – yet we are accused of being in an echo chamber.

huxleypiggles
2 years ago

https://off-guardian.org/2023/09/30/figuring-out-their-angle/

Todd Hayen at Off-G discussing the Canadian equivalent of our Online Harms Bill, the Online News Act, or Bill C-18.

There seems to be a high degree of Lockstep across the West, unless it’s just me being paranoid 🤔

DHJ
DHJ
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

C-18? Given recent events, I wonder if the “18” is the coded way of showing their allegiance.

huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  DHJ

18 = 6 6 6

DHJ
DHJ
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I was thinking more the open adoration of Nazis. 18 is used as code for Adolf H.

huxleypiggles
2 years ago

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/pandemic-samizdat-in-the-us/

A very long read from the brave Dr Jay Battcharaya on the dangers of censorship. Well with it.

Mogwai
2 years ago

Would I be right in saying that all of the emergency services and all of the armed forces have gone woke now then? Nobody is spared it seems. What an embarassment; ”Britain’s Royal Navy has reportedly told its sailors that they should introduce themselves with gender pronouns before meetings in order to be more “inclusive”. A “Trans and Non-Binary Awareness” guide, seen by The Telegraph newspaper, reportedly published on the Royal Navy’s internal intranet has told staff: “Introducing yourself with your pronouns at the start of meetings and interactions is a good way to be inclusive.” It goes on to state: “Some people do not associate with gender binary and may use different pronouns like they/them hers or neo-pronouns like ze/hir/hirs. You should use the pronoun that a person shares with you.” The Navy’s guide on gender also featured a “trans umbrella” to illustrate the different forms of gender expression, including “pangender”, “gender neutral”, and “two-spirit”, a phrase that has been used to describe the gender of some Native Americans. Former First Sea Lord of the British Royal Navy, Admiral Lord West said of the guidance: “I am surprised that the Navy wishes to try and divide ship’s companies by focusing on people’s gender rather than seeing… Read more »

Mogwai
2 years ago

So the name Mohammed is now the most popular in many countries and cities in the West. It’s not just the invasion of migrants that demonstrates the fact we’re being replaced, but they rate at which they procreate when they get here, after sending for their wives and any kids, presumably. ”All this may seem innocuous enough. After all, what’s in a name? On the other hand, because more numbers equate more power and influence, many Muslims see their progeny as their contribution to the jihad — the ancient “struggle” to make Islam supreme. A video from last year of Muslims and Danes quarreling in Denmark makes this clear. In the video, one Muslim man can be heard yelling the following words to a Dane: We have five children, you only have one or two. In 10 to 15 years there will be more Pakistanis than Danes in this country!… The Danes are five million, soon you’ll be exterminated. Look at the Swedes, look at the Norwegians, look at the Finns, man! We are multiples [of] millions, man! The clamorous Muslim goes on to accuse Europeans of preferring bestiality to marriage — hence their dearth of children. Soon other Muslims chime in. One says,… Read more »

huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I used to believe in tolerance. Used to.

Mogwai
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Well I think it’s safe to say that the word ‘tolerance’, much like the word ‘equality’, definitely does not apply to that religion. Therefore why should the tolerance be all one-sided? Crazy.

richardw53
richardw53
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I think it was Sir Karl Popper who noted the paradox of tolerance – that one can be tolerant of everything except intolerance itself.

Jon Garvey
2 years ago

Funny how penitent commentators on BLM, lockdowns etc always ask, Whatever possessed us all back then?” rather than asking, “Why didn’t we listen to those who saw through the nonsense, and instead marginalised them?”

Lockdown Sceptic
2 years ago

CO2 0.04% of the earth’s atmosphere. That’s the equivalent to 400 millimetres per kilometre.



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Dinger64
2 years ago

“At last Sunak is governing like a conservative – let’s hope it’s not too late”

Let’s hope it’s not a ploy!

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  Dinger64

If he truly believed he would have done this from the start. If he truly believed he would have resigned from the Cabinet and the Conservative Party at the start of “covid” and spoken out about it. If he truly believed he would have supported the Truss/Kwarteng budget. Etc. So IMO definitely a ploy.

Brett_McS
2 years ago

Asking that a politician “truly believe” something is a bit of a high bar.

Milton Friedman: ““I do not believe that the solution to our problem is simply to elect the right people. The important thing is to establish a political climate of opinion which will make it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing”

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Oh indeed

huxleypiggles
2 years ago

Seconded 👍

Boomer Bloke
2 years ago

““Brits are turning against gender ideology””. Not really, this Brit and many others never turned towards it in the first place.

BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago

https://unherd.com/2023/09/one-year-on-who-blew-up-nord-stream-2/

A couple of presentations by Professor Hans-Benjamin Braun presenting evidence of the blowing up of the Nordstream pipeline. Something else to consider on this matter.

https://rumble.com/v2xyrhm-hans-benjamin-braun.html

https://rumble.com/v3ekpvd-professor-hans-benjamin-braun.html

ebygum
2 years ago

So..propaganda or lies..or a bit of both…?

More re-writing of history…?

Secretary Antony Blinken
@SecBlinken

Eighty-two years ago, Nazis murdered 34,000 Jews at Babyn Yar. Soviets buried this history, which today Putin’s government manipulates to provide cover for Russia’s abuses in Ukraine. The U.S. is committed to justice for Holocaust survivors and accountability for atrocities.

….well, quite rightly, someone used community notes to point out the problem…with this utterly egregious statement…

…”Soviet prisoners of war (POWs) were among the people who were massacred at Babyn Yar. The Soviets liberated Babyn Yar and Kiev in 1943. The Soviets held a trial in 1946 in Kiev for 15 German policemen involved in the Babyn Yar massacres.”

ebygum
2 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

…seriously, what is going on?….are we really not supposed to hate Nazis crimes anymore…or are they telling us pretend all Nazis came from Russia?. …
First Turdeau now Blinken..WTF…?….