London Faces Measles Outbreak Due to Reduced MMR Uptake. Why are Parents Losing Faith in Children’s Vaccination Programmes?
According to a report by the U.K. Health Security Agency, London is at risk of a major Measles outbreak that could result in tens of thousands of cases and dozens of deaths. The Guardian has more.
Without an improvement in MMR vaccination rates, the capital could experience an outbreak of between 40,000 and 160,0000 cases, fresh analysis by the UKHSA suggests. Experts said an outbreak of this scale could lead to dozens of deaths and thousands of people hospitalised.
Dr Vanessa Saliba, a consultant epidemiologist at UKHSA, said: “Measles can be a serious infection that can lead to complications especially in young children and those with weakened immune systems. Due to longstanding suboptimal vaccine uptake there is now a very real risk of seeing big outbreaks in London.”
Official data published on Friday revealed a steady rise in measles cases this year, indicating a resurgence of the illness. Between 1 January and 30 June this year there have been 128 cases of measles, compared with 54 cases in the whole of 2022, with 66% of the cases detected in London, although cases have been seen in all regions.
Measles can lead to severe illness, with an estimated 20-40% of children hospitalised, according to the UKHSA. The US Centre for Disease Control estimates one to two in 1,000 children infected will die from measles, with a larger number suffering serious complications, including intellectual disabilities and deafness.
“UKHSA is right to be worried about this,” said Prof Paul Hunter, professor in medicine at the University of East Anglia, saying that an outbreak of the scale described would be expected to lead to “dozens of deaths”.
“Measles is one of the most infectious viruses to infect humans,” he said. “About two in 1,000 infected people will die, the main risk being in children under five years old, but adults can get very sick as well.”
Measles is the most infectious of all diseases transmitted through the respiratory route. In a population with no immunity, a single case of measles will infect between 10 and 20 others.
To maintain herd immunity, the World Health Organization set a target of 95% vaccination uptake. But the UK is far below this target, with uptake for the first dose of the MMR vaccine in children aged two years in England at 85.6%, the lowest level in a decade. In some parts of London, coverage of the first MMR dose at two years of age is as low as 69.5%.
Worth reading in full.
It’s worth asking why MMR uptake is at its lowest level in a decade. London is far from the only city in the developed world suffering from this problem. Manhattan saw a similar decline in routine paediatric vaccination levels in the last three months of 2022, from 64.5% to 59.2% in 2021. The New York Post Editorial Board was in no doubt as to the cause:
Closing schools seemed sensible in the earliest days of 2020, but the data soon proved that young kids basically never get the bug. Most masks do nothing to reduce transmission, nor does six feet of social distancing. And making toddlers mask in school risks major developmental harm.
Heavy-lockdown states fared no better in health outcomes than mainly-open ones — and fared worse economically and most likely in mental health, too.
Every element of the public-health establishment from Dr. Anthony Fauci on down got many of these points wrong, even long after the science was clear. Worse still, government pushed censorship (as ‘misinformation’) of any discussion of the downsides of any intervention. And that included the real risks to younger men of cardiac problems associated with vaccination.
In short, the public-health establishment earned a ton of distrust. Tragically, that’s now feeding doubts about MMR jabs, leaving more New York kids vulnerable to measles, mumps and other childhood diseases that actually present real danger to the young — unlike Covid.
So what is the city doing in response to this catastrophe? “Confronting rising vaccination hesitancy through media campaigns, providing educational forums to providers and community-based organisations, and providing tools to talk about vaccine confidence with patients and parents.”
More lectures, in short, from the lost-credibility crew.
America needs a trustworthy public-health establishment, but getting it requires some kind of truth-and-reconciliation commission, with significant firings and massive, unflinching and public mea culpas from city, state and federal health departments — and reforms aiming to ensure they never make the same mistakes again.
Do it for the children.
That sounds bang on to me – and, needless to say, the ‘solution’ the public health authorities have come up with in London is identical to the one in New York. The Guardian again:
The NHS has launched a national campaign to encourage the uptake of the MMR vaccine, included target outreach work in London for those at highest risk and in communities with the lowest update.
All children at primary school who have missed one or both doses of the MMR vaccine are being offered the opportunity to get up to date at school. Parents of those children will be contacted by the NHS school immunisation service. Parents of younger children or those who are home-schooled can make an appointment with their GP practice or visit a community clinic.
But the problem isn’t the absence of pro-vaxx propaganda being pumped out by the NHS and schools. The problem is that more and more parents distrust the NHS and schools, given that they promoted the vaccination of children against Covid when a rational risk-benefit analysis clearly indicated the risk of harm from the COVID-19 vaccines clearly outweighed the risk of harm to children who became infected with the disease. Fool me once…
If the NHS, the Department for Education, the U.K. Health Security Agency and the Department of Health are serious about restoring parents’ trust in their medical advice, they should start by apologising for all the needless pandemic measures that harmed their children, including closing schools, mandatory masking in classrooms and school corridors and, above all, the aggressive promotion of the COVID-19 vaccines.
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Are these predictions of measles cases and deaths based on computer models?
Indeed. Allow me to be highly sceptical about this coming measles epidemic.
The article is more bullshit and hysteria.
1-There is no measles virus.
2-It has always been spread like the poxes and symphillis from filth and unhygienic conditions. Something in the local environment(s) is causing it in (quite likely) poorer areas of London. I doubt Kensington is affected.
3-Measles disappeared 30 years before the first measles quackcine appeared, maybe the ‘science’ can explain that.
4-It is not a deadly disease if treated with naturopathy – same with the poxes and syphillis.
5-Injecting toxins into your body to fight ‘germs’ is just stupid. Germs clean up the result of the infection and problem. They don’t cause it.
6-‘Epidemic’ – what the hell does that mean? Another next to zero death rate, or 2 dying instead of 1?
7-Where are the long term studies of the measles stabbination vs the unstabbinated? What the side effects including death, is it like the Rona mRNA where 5 x more died post the stabs than from Rona? Smallpox jabs were the same as the Rona in death and carnage.
F* Pharma.
Exactly..
I am stunned that this comment should get 97 upticks. No measles virus! So all this is rubbish?
The claims that “one to two in 1,000 children infected will die from measles” are based on mortality figures and reported cases of measles, from the days when measles was still common. However, most cases of measles weren’t reported – almost all children caught it – so the true fatality rate is likely much lower. In the three years 1966-1968 before the vaccine was introduced in 1969, the UK had an average of 77 deaths per year, which is one death per 11,000 if we assume that almost all children caught it and we divide the annual UK birth cohort at the time by 77.
Also, the measles mortality rate declined enormously before the vax was introduced, and it’s not unreasonable to suppose that the present-day equivalent mortality figure would be much lower still; we shouldn’t be assuming mortality rates unchanged from over half a century ago.
The alleged risk of measles complications is likewise based on the former number of reported measles cases, so again it is likely much too high.
Anybody remember the ‘measles’ parties of old? It worked then.
Should have done the same with the ‘rona.
Too many islamists?
I have never known such a level of distrust amongst the public. It used to be one or two ‘cranks’ that wouldn’t have the MMR jab; now it is much more widespread and it is almost possible to talk about Dr Andrew Wakefield again in polite society, and debate both his appalling treatment at the hands of the medical establishment and how his investigations could be followed up to establish whether or not there is a link between MMR and autism. If the authorities are really worried, just make the measles jab available separately again rather than mount a publicity campaign that will only serve to convince the believers.
Andrew Wakefield is still perceived by the establishment to be a serious threat to their narrative – I attended a zoom meeting on Tuesday where he presented which was porn bombed for 5 minutes.
Maybe folk are less trusting of what they are told & are doing their own due diligence. What I’ve found from doing my due diligence is that no vaccine is safe, effective or needed. I would never knowingly permit my child to be injected with aluminium, mercury, dog kidney cell, aborted male & female foetal cells, SV40 (lung cancer cells), chimpanzee cells, chicken cells to name but a few. How any baby of 2, 3 or 4 months of age needs these products to train their immune system is not explained by those who promote the injections.
Well said..
I didn’t have strong feelings about MMR but my husband did, so we spent large amounts of both time and money taking our children for individual jabs with a private doctor. So we were hardly antivaxxers. However it is now impossible to get the individual jabs. If it was really about children’s health, they’d be happy, nay desperate, to get the individual jabs into children wouldn’t they? The fact that that avenue is completely closed makes me think there’s something else at play in the constant plugging of the MMR. As a result I turned down the HPV and flu vaxxes subsequently for both of them because I’d already lost trust in them promoting children’s best interests.
Ps to Richard in this thread, there were a heck of a lot of ‘cranks’ at the private jab clinics! Long queues every time.
Wait, they are offering flu vaccines to kids?!
Oh Yes.. and have been for some time. In the primary schools its a nasal spray.. I’m not sure on the secondary schools..
My grandchildren are kept well away despite the laborious propaganda..
It’s also a spray in secondaries. I think some people believe that in itself is an issue (can’t remember what now though!).
On the face of it a spray is a good idea in that it induces IgA (mucosal) antibodies, preventing virus colonisation of the upper respiratory tract, a much better and more natural match for a respiratory illness than an injected vax for which the IgG antibodies only take effect if the virus has got into the blood. There was concern last year about strep A deaths based on a paper https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3944816/ that showed that nasal flu vaccine temporarily increased the concentrations of certain bacteria in the nose; the bacteria considered did include a Streptococcus species but they were not strep A, on the other hand there was no indication that the same effect might not apply to strep A. More recently the UK government pointed to a preprint https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.12.16.22283602v1 that suggests that strep A incidence falls when the nasal flu vax is promoted in schools.
The two claims about strep A might seem contradictory but they could both be correct. Non-specific positive effects of live attenuated vaccines have been noticed before, particularly with the BCG vaccine, on the other hand the short-term increase in nasal bacteria could be a problem if a strep A outbreak occurs during the vax rollout, which most years it wouldn’t.
The “flu” vaccine is perhaps the biggest con of all. Just an annual money making exercise for big Pharma. A bit like the greetings cards industry selling Valentines cards or Mother’s Day cards but a lot more dangerous obviously!
We all got measles back in the day. How come 20-40% of my schoolfriends weren’t admitted to hospital with it?
Some studies suggest that, like several other vaccines, the measles vaccine was introduced once the spread of the illness had peaked so its effectiveness was flattered by the natural disease progression curve. Then it was all about preventing measles rather than dealing with an actual outbreak, and as you say how serious was it anyway? As always there were a few unfortunate fatalities, but hardly a high death toll.
Their parents weren’t scared enough to panic?
Communities provide knowledge and experience and reassurance. Schools were far more robust. Safetyism hadn’t taken hold.
Absolutely. It was just something you got, along with all the other bugs that used to zip round the schools every winter. I can’t remember any fuss being made about it when I was a child in the late 50s and 60s, and I certainly don’t remember deaths and hospitalisations with it. Of course, one skill/knowledge that has been lost is the care of the sick at home. If you pick up any household advice book from the 60s or before, there is always a chapter on care of the sick and running a sick room, and also, how to care for the convalescing. I remember being very ill with measles, but I was well cared for by my mother, and a local gp who visited regularly (I think daily at one point) to check on me. Just imagine that happening now. No doubt now, a child similarly ill would be stuck in a hospital.
Incidentally, I do think having had every childhood illness known to man, I now have an extremely robust immune system!
Not knowing how old you are, so please don’t take offence, but I too was raised in the era of measles, chicken pox, German measles, mumps all of which I caught as did my friends and we all came through, I don’t know of any Adults in my generation who have autism, that’s because if there are the number is miniscule, yet look at the number of children and young Adults with it, that to me is an epidemic, and yet the WHO and the medical authorities have made no real efforts to examine the causes and wether there is a link between vaccines and autism. Why? I wonder is it because Pharma and its key investors control the market and the regulators.
‘Why are Parents Losing Faith in Children’s Vaccination Programmes?’
Errrrm, let me think …
I wonder if the incidence of myocarditis in young people – particularly males – and the urgent “need” to put defibrillators in every school in the country has anything to do with it?
One of the few good things to arise from the covid debacle/jabs is a heightened awareness of the potential dangers of even so called traditional vaccines. Perhaps many parents have at last actually become aware of the staggering rise in autoimmune diseases since the mid 80’s – especially amongst chidren, autism etc. I know correlation doesn’t = causation but there is plenty of proper scientific evidence which proves how said “diseases” can be caused by vaccines. – http://vaccinepapers.org/ The excellent book – “Turtles All the Way Down” – further explains matters and the fraud perpetrated by bigpharma re their so called safety and effectiveness trials. New vaccines always tested against a placebo,lol. They are crooks – as can easily be shown by the myriad criminal fines they’ve had to pay over the last 40 years. It’s also interesting to observe how even traditional die hard Doctors such as Piere Korry are questioning vaccines in general. Who in their right mind would ever consider injecting their bloodstream with known neuro toxins such as aluminium, mercury, formaldehyde or peanut oil. These are commonly used in vaccines as adjuvants in order to make the jabs longer lasting ie to keep the immune system… Read more »
I’d have to swat up but isn’t having sufficient vitamin A the best bet for not getting seriously ill from measles? It’s why it’s such a benign illness in this day and age, because people aren’t typically malnourished and living in slummy conditions like years gone by. Don’t quote me on that but I seem to remember the importance of vit A plays into it somewhere along the line…
I haven’t heard of vitamin A helping to prevent measles, but Vitamins C and D have been shown to boost the immune system. Although people in this country aren’t malnourished a lot of less well off people have poor diets and are likely to be at least somewhat vitamin deficient. This could be part of the reason why measles cases are rising in London where there’s quite a lot of poverty and not in the wealthier Home Counties.
Copper is an anti viral. Check out the copper workers in France.
Yes Mogwai..you are right..Vitamin A deficiency has been a recognised risk factor for severe measles for a long time. Probably because the ‘high risk’ for measles death and complications are in the third-world, as you say because of a lack of good nutrition and sanitation..etc…
The Amish are the perfect control group in which autism is not known.
Forgot to add that the immunological biomolecular mechanism/s which make adjuvants work is er, unknown. ( that was the case as of 2018 when I last researched the subject).
Vaccinologists discovered that the desired immune responses caused by vaccines lasted longer when said adjuvant/s were added. Their initial purpose was purely as a preservative. Lol. I think aluminium hydroxide was the first.
So roll up any putative immunologis/vaccinologist out there. A Nobel prize awaits…
PS It seems the mRNA jabs have no need for any traditional adjuvant – probably because they’re toxic enough in their own right.
The MMR vaccine has endured some speculation that it is the seed of autism and other things. Of course science tells us that isn’t true. But, you know. Science…
A CDC whistle blower was part of a group of CDC personnel who looked at all the data on childhood vaccines & autism to try to refute what Andrew Wakefield claimed. The data supported his findings. It was agreed that the research needed to be destroyed & that there was no link was to be reported. One researcher couldn’t supress this truth & teh film Vaxxed is his testimony.
What science are you referring to? Randomized control trials on child vaccines? No such trials have been done, And Francis Collins has said they never will be. The reason is he knows what the trials will show. And his Pharma masters will not permit the outing.
As I understood it outbreaks still happen even once kids are vaccinated, so a high vax rate for measles is no guarantee of herd immunity. And as for the reduced uptake, I really do hope it’s due to a gradual realisation for parents that the government and organizations such as the WHO definitely do not have our health and wellbeing as a priority, as recent history has demonstrated. Imagine being so stupid that the scales fall from your eyes regarding the Covid jabs but you maintain blind faith for all other injections going forward.
It really is like getting food poisoning from eating the chicken in a restaurant but going back again and ordering the beef. You’d have to be thick as the proverbial not to have twigged what’s going on based off of the last 3 years of lived experience.
As the meme says; ”A healthy patient is a customer lost,” Big Pharma.
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May this trend continue and be reflected in all of the other government-manufactured crises/agendas! 🙂
Until there are RCTs on all vaccines then I’ve come to believe none have been truly studied and researched. All Andrew Wakefield did was suggest there maybe a possible link between vaccines and autism and it should be researched and we know what happened to him.
After the last two years people are now doing some research and are coming to their own conclusions about vaccines. I know I have and I think they’re all shit.
Dell has a good rant this week on the topic.
Not convinced Toby reads below the line to realise what his readership actually believe.
This is what I was looking for. An interesting article about a measles outbreak in Samoa. Worth reading if you’ve not already; ”Other estimates of vaccine coverage in the region actually put Fiji and Tonga at nearly 100% and the coverage in Samoa reached 100% in 2013 following which it started dropping. In other words, if the vaccines were working as promised herd immunity should have been reached years before. In fact, despite global vaccination rates over 80% it appears that the herd immunity promise has never eventuated for measles. Confirmation of this was of course the fact that Fiji and Tonga both had measles outbreaks despite reported vaccination rates of near 100% – so the vaccines didn’t prevent a massive bout of infections at all. And in fact, there was a mass vaccination campaign which had already provided 32,743 vaccinations (mostly children) before the outbreak – for a population of 200,000 people, of whom there are approximately 20,000 under-5s. In other words, enough of the Samoan population had been vaccinated by 2019 that they should have been “protected” from a fatal measles outbreak. The takeaway from reports in Samoa at the time was that basic medical care, including Vitamin A, Vitamin… Read more »
My surgery just sent me a text message aking me to come in for my covid jab. Do they honestly think that having refused it for the last few years on suspicionalone that I would want it after all the proof is being published?
All this vaccine scepticism. How on Earth could that have happened? Truly baffling.
The capital could experience an outbreak…. Is a bit speculative, isn’t it? As other commentators have said, there is a loss of faith in the system at present. What a surprise. Part of the issue may be that there has been a deliberate modification of the definition of what a “vaccine” is, so that certain products can be marketed that way, without fully explaining it to us. Safe and effective? How about honest publication of real risks and benefits, and the avoidance of promoting things that only had “emergency use authorisation”?
I actually saw someone on Twitter the other day say he was so glad he had the jibber jabber because although he had bad side effects from it, when he got actual covid it wasn’t that bad.
He wasn’t being sarcastic.
There is some kind of stupid you can’t fix.
Wasn’t there supposed to be a polio epidemic in London a couple of years ago? Never heard anymore about it.
Scaremongering as ever.
‘London is at risk of a major Measles outbreak that could result in tens of thousands of cases and dozens of deaths.’ Jab sales push? Yeees, I think so. The death rate from measles in the UK – or child vitC deficiency as some prefer to call it – was 2 in a million cases before vaccination came in. Like the other standard childhood plagues – chicken pox, scarlet fever, etc – measles had been routed by improved sanitation and nutrition, and clean drinking water. Vaccination was brought in purely for profit. But well done, Toby, for understanding that there is no price you will not pay for opposing vaccine policy, or questioning pharma profiteering. In the US, the CDC knows that there is a link between MMR and autism. Dr William Thompson came forward and admitted it, and also admitted the CDC had lied, committed fraud and an atrocious crime in covering up the data for 15 years, and that the risk is greater for 6-12 month-old infants rather than older ones. But the CDC also understands the risks of offending Pharma. They now have autism in some parts of the USA at the rate of 1 case in… Read more »
Its a bloody pox FFS.. I often wonder how people like me in my 70s survived childhood.. no vaccines and our Mums used to sling us into other households who had the measles and chickenpox to catch the ruddy thing.
Enough with useless vaccines already!!!
Data on hospitalizations of kids 0-9yrs from Quebec, pre-vax rollout vs post rollout. How any parent can trust anything purported to be a vaccine now with all of this negative data circulating is beyond me. It sounds like the best gift you can get anyone who’s expecting a baby is that ‘Turtles’ book. The gift of knowledge.
”Start of vax 5-11y 24 nov 2021
hospi 0-9y 24 mars 2020 au 23 nov 2021(before vax) : 263 hospi in 609days
hospi per day: 0.432
hospi 0-9ans 24 nov 2021 au 18 june 2023 (after vax) : 2445 hospi in 572days
hospi per day: 4.274
9.89X more hospi in 0-9year since start of vax”
https://twitter.com/jynaso/status/1680213899721732096
See – they started the vax only just in time! /sarc
I would have put a ‘smiley’ on that to show I don’t mean it – but it’s nothing to smile about.
More seriously, we have to be prepared to answer illogic like my first sentence. As disgruntled246 says above: There is some kind of stupid you can’t fix – but we have to keep trying.
Doom and gloom
Why are you fear mongeri, we all know that these headlines are nonsense
My now adult children had the MMR in the early ’90s. I was assured by my GP that the concern about it possibly being implicated in the huge increase in autism was wrong.
If I had young children now, they would not be having it. Watch Robert Kennedy Junior’s interview with Joe Rogan.
I have always been very cautious about medical interventions for myself; I refused the Covid jabs.
I no longer have any trust in most “State approved” $cientists/Big Pharma/the NHS …. and I’ve never trusted the Government.
I will never have another vaccination and if I had young children, neither would they.
Suggest you and the Guardian columnist read Turtles All The Way Down and then come back and re write your respective articles.
On the brink of, ike Monkey pox then?
Who would trust anything the health agencies say ever again?
I suspect the coerced introduction of a failure of a gene editing product, has had the unintended consequences of people researching other vaccines and looking at the side effects, if not can I recommend Turtles all the way down.
I would also say having had every vaccine apart from the last killer set, and also having had my child vaccinated with the usual set of vaccines, I now would avoid the MMR and not give any child a measles vaccine until they were past 2, and then I would only take the seperate products not the combined. Too many children developing autism, and rather like the cover up on Covid injections I am suspicious that Andrew wakefield might have been right all along, and we have been subjected to a similar cover up on the MMR.
Who would believe or place trust in any of our medical authorities or Pharma again. They reap what they have sewn
Guardian ?? Oh that mouthpiece
Consider an article by Alexander D. Langmuir and Donald A. Henderson et al, published in 1962, i.e. The importance of measles as a health problem. The article commences with this statement: “During the past 40 years the ecological approach to disease has become a basic concept of epidemiology. Among all diseases measles has stood as the classic example of successful parasitism. This self-limiting infection of short duration, moderate severity, and low fatality has maintained a remarkably stable biological balance over the centuries. Those epidemiologists, and there are many, who tend to revere the biological balance have long argued that the ecological equilibrium of measles is solidly based, that it cannot readily be disrupted and that therefore we must learn to live with this parasite rather than hope to eradicate it. This speaker, not so long ago, was counted among this group and waxed eloquent on this subject in print.” (My emphasis.) So far so good and so natural…but then Langmuir and Henderson et al say: “Happily, this era is ending. New and potent tools that promise effective control of measles are at hand. If properly developed and widely used, it should be possible to disrupt the biological balance of measles. Its eradication from large continental land masses such as North America and many other parts of the… Read more »
If you have been vaccinated against measles, then surely you are not at risk of getting very sick from it. The only ones at risk are those that have chosen not to be vaccinated. These arguments that everyone must be vaccinated are illogical. How can the vaccine be good enough to create herd immunity but not good enough to prevent one from getting measles? Sounds like a perfect plan to sell more vaccines.
In an earlier comment Judy Watson points out that there was supposed to be a polio epidemic in London a couple of years ago
Is there a collection somewhere of these dire predictions that have not (yet?) come true? It would be useful to be able to refer to such stuff when pointing out the frequency of
liesmisinformation from our ‘experts’.Too often these reports are splashed in the press without any analysis. How about revisiting these ‘predictions’ once a year with supporting evidence of ‘cases’, treatments and vaccinations. Perhaps we could do the same for climate alarmism.
This is the actual report from UK/GOV
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/london-at-risk-of-measles-outbreaks-with-modelling-estimating-tens-of-thousands-of-cases
Note firstly that the ‘modelled’ numbers don’t disclose vaccination status ….. and secondly, despite the lower vaccination rates cases are lower than in previous years!
The covid jab scam was nothing new. All that was novel about it was its scale. Consider the annual flu jab. Publicly available data shows it makes no difference to rates of hospitalization and death. None at all. Yet every year the push is renewed. Reason? Filthy lucre, nothing more and nothing else.