How Can We Get Banks to Stop ‘Debanking’ Their Right-of-Centre Customers?
I’ve got a business idea. My product, called Shareholder-in-a-Box, is an AI powered, natural-language-processing, virtual shareholder that sits on Board tables and CEOs’ desks.
How does it work? Well, imagine that a CEO is considering an exciting proposal from a single-issue campaign group. For a modest fee, the group will come into the business and weed out any customers with whom it disagrees. And, best of all, when their work is done, they’ll give the company a digital certificate to pin up on its website. Pretty hard to resist, right?
This is when Shareholder-In-A-Box will pipe up and say something like: “Let’s consider this for a moment. What’s in the best interests of the company and its shareholders? Getting a certificate? Or revenue, customers, goodwill, and the long-term creation of shareholder value?”
Or perhaps the Board and the CEO have been asked to approve a substantial expenditure on a public campaign in support of trans rights. Sure, the company manufactures power tools, and there isn’t an immediately obvious nexus there but, the marketing team says persuasively, it’s Pride Month. “Just a minute,” Shareholder-in-a-Box will say. “Was the company incorporated for the purpose of advancing the rights of trans people, however just that cause may or may not be, or was it incorporated to conduct the business of manufacturing and selling power tools for the benefit of its shareholders?”
As you know, many Boards and CEOs struggle to answer these questions on their own. Shareholder-in-a-Box will help them through this complex decision-making process.
The obvious question, I hear you ask, is whether the problem is big enough to sufficiently scale a business? It’s a fair challenge, and I will answer it by asking whether you’ve noticed that, more and more, companies no longer want your business because, frankly, you’re beyond the pale.
You ask why Halifax staff need to wear preferred pronoun badges? Take your business elsewhere, you bigot. You use PayPal to accept donations for a website that raises legitimate questions about whether the benefits of lockdown outweighed the demonstrable harm it caused to a generation of children who were dependent on us, as adults, to make wise decisions on their behalf? Your account is closed, you conspiracy theorist. You’re using EventBrite to sell tickets to an event where one of the speakers thinks biological sex is real? Event cancelled, you purveyor of hate. Yes, this is a large and growing trend.
Well, you might say, even if that’s true, does it matter? Do Board members and CEOs care?
Yes, they do, though perhaps not for the reason you might expect, which is that, again and again, their failure to answer these questions properly results in a loss of customers, damage to the company’s goodwill and a drop in the share price. The real pain point for Board members and CEOs is that, as customers continue to melt away and the share price continues to drop, even the most passive shareholder might start paying attention and decide to attend the annual general meeting to vote. Even worse, they might start asking whether the Board members were in fact complying with their legal duty to act in the best interests of the company and its shareholders.
In the unlikely event that a practising corporate lawyer has found a spare six minutes in their billable day to read this, they may be grumbling about my over-simplification of U.K. company law. While Section 172 of the Companies Act 2006 requires that a company director acts in a way that they believe will promote the success of the company for the benefit of its members (generally, its shareholders), it also says, somewhat vaguely, that when doing so they must “have regard” to several considerations including “the impact of the company’s operations on the community and the environment”.
Does this really change anything though? It’s hard to see how. Taking a decision to incur some additional cost to avoid polluting a river, yes. Deciding not to move production to a cheaper location because it would adversely affect the current local community, maybe. Proactively embarking on a divisive political campaign wholly unrelated to the business? Nope.
In fact, the more you look at this situation, the more glaring the question about Section 172 becomes. We may assume that, if the power tool company referred to above was well run, the Board and CEO would have made sure that the company understood its market. Today’s data driven marketing strategies extend well past product features and into behavioural, demographic, and so-called psychographic segmentation. The blowback from refusing to serve customers because you disagree with their political views, or from publicly taking sides in the culture wars by running a political campaign, could not possibly have come as a complete surprise.
Can we really say that a Board that sanctioned the use of company funds to run a wholly unrelated political campaign, with no prospect of increasing sales and, in fact, a high likelihood of losing customers and damaging both its goodwill and share price, was really acting in a way that they believed would promote the success of the company for the benefit of its shareholders? Wouldn’t they in fact be likely to have breached Section 172?
For some reason, there is a strange concentration of this activity in the financial services sector. Last week, for example, Nigel Farage announced that his bank account had been closed and he’s been refused service by all other U.K. banks that he’s approached (nine at last count). Shareholder-in-a-Box will, therefore, require a specific financial services module.
What is different in financial services? Well, bank accounts are effectively an essential service in a modern economy, so the impact on a customer being denied service is potentially severe. So I’m sure the Financial Conduct Authority will start enforcing the legal obligation it places on licensed firms to “pay due regard to the interests of its customers and treat them fairly” (Principle 6 of the FCA Handbook), as I discussed here. Any day now.
My plan is that, in the future, whenever a licensed financial services firm considers authorising members of staff to close a customer’s account without a good faith application of the firm’s terms of use, and with no advance notice, explanation, opportunity to respond or rectify the issue, or appeal process, simply because that member of staff disagrees with the personal opinions of the customer, Shareholder-in-a-Box will be there to virtually tap the Board members and the CEO on the shoulder and politely enquire whether this is in fact treating customers fairly. As required by law.
You may by now be asking how it came to this? Are our Board members and CEOs uniquely unqualified or, perhaps, bad actors? Will it even matter what Shareholder-in-a-Box says to them? The truth is that, with a few glorious exceptions, the Boards of our major corporations are made up of intelligent and serious people. They are trying to navigate a strange new world, where Environmental Social and Governance (ESG) ratings agencies produce, with straight faces, reports that give some oil companies better ESG ratings than Tesla. Where fund managers with the collective or, in some cases, individual power to move a share price allocate funds by reference to these ESG ratings or similar factors. Where well-funded campaign groups might initiate a boycott of your business at any time. Where waves of young employees have arrived straight from the safe spaces of university campuses, steeped in Critical Race Theory and Gender Identity Ideology, not to mention theories of their own importance, and have a voice in the company too.
And perhaps most importantly, our Board members and CEOs would, like most of us, like to do good. Perhaps less nobly, but also relatable if we’re honest with ourselves, they’d also like to be seen and celebrated for doing good. And you’re not getting an award at a gala dinner for simply running a power tool company effectively.
Anyway, I will admit that, currently, this is all just a business plan. What I really need to prove my business case and kick-start adoption is an activist shareholder to bring a high-profile court case alleging a breach of Section 172. In a perfect world, Jolyon Maugham would appear for the defence. As his stated mission is to promote “good law” and not trivial, party-political adventurism, he’ll stride in wiping the dust and sweat from his brow, fresh from the fight after successfully challenging the Scottish Government’s latest flagrant disregard of legal and administrative norms. The public gallery will be packed and, as a hush falls over the courtroom, Mr Maugham KC will call his first witness, the company’s brand manager, who will carefully explain that the power tool company’s success depended on running a campaign in support of the trans lobby because, umm, well…
It’ll be the trial of the century. Shareholder-in-a-Box will quickly become a standard installation in Boardrooms and offices across the world. Mentally, I’m already buying land in New Zealand where, with Peter Thiel and other like-minded billionaires, I’ll be safe from the pestilence, civil unrest and war that will ultimately do for the rest of you.
Wish me luck!
Adrian Brown is a former lawyer who works in payments and foreign exchange, with experience across both the banking and financial technology sectors.
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Yes, I remember the rule of law. What a quaint, outdated idea that is (and not fit for a democratic society).
Government and Big Banks are intertwined. My initial attitude is that a ‘right of centre’ bank will come into existence (whatever right of maoism means). But I don’t think it can given the PRA, FCA, BoE, and various agencies managing the Banks. The industry is the classic example of Corporatism.
Then we have ESG and the hedge funds. Banks won’t get the funding if they don’t meet ESG scores. People like us, Farage, the Christian baker, the Catholic food bank, are persona non grata and we impact their ESG scores. ESG + Big Government = little hope of a new bank.
All institutions offering any sort of public service, including banking, should be under a full legal obligation to disclose all their evidence and discussions when they close an account or refuse to open an account. Furthermore the person concerned should have full right of defence and the organisation should be obliged to listen to that defence and make a full open and disclosed reply.
If you offer a service to people, then refusal or cancellation is effectively a punishment and an admonition of an individual person, a trial in fact. As such we are entitled to a fair an open trial as enshrined in the Magna-Carta, all fair minded people including all our MPs should be very concerned about this trampling of our basic right to a fair and open trial.
I don’t agree, any business should be allowed to refuse service for whatever reason they like. However once they have offered that service later removing it for whatever reason is imputing there is a fault with the character of the individual. The bank should have to explain why the service is being withdrawn in writing. “Operational reasons” is not adequate imo, this is a slur on his character.
”I don’t agree, any business should be allowed to refuse service for whatever reason they like. ”
If it is a service they make openly to the general public then they should give a full clear explanation of any reason for refusal to provide that service and they should be obliged. as a point of freedom of information, to make available all documentation regarding their refusal to provide a service.
Whether it is the local pub not selling me a drink because I am already drunk or a printer refusing to print a poster for me because they believe the wording is illegal, in my view they should not be allowed to just say no, they should have to say why they are saying no.
I agree, since when does managing my money have anything to do with who I am in reality or what I believe? The service is money management. But with Corporatism and ESG finance now becomes a social engineering tool.
If the Church did the same in the Middle Ages, the ‘historians’ would scream with rage. ie. sorry you are not Catholic, you can’t deposit money and use our network of bill exchanges.
All of these banks do business with criminals, mafias, criminal industries like pharma, criminal individuals and rapists, murderers et al. Yet that seems to be okay for them, but not someone who is slightly ‘Right’ of the ‘Maoist Centre’.
Why should they? Because you say so?
My first instinct is to say there should be no obligation for any private business to provide goods or services to anyone, and no explanation required. I think that stands up if you’re talking about individual traders or small businesses because you would hopefully find an alternative, but if you’re dealing with monopoly providers, or providers acting in concert, and the goods and services are more or less essential for normal life, I can see big problems. I don’t have an easy answer.
That can’t be quite right – few of us would be happy with a fish and chip queue where the black person next in line was told, “I ain’t serving you, mate” with no reason given.
A good discussion from the US recently (in the light of recent supreme Court decisions) is that a public service should be offered to all, but that no business should be forced to act or speak against its principles.
An example would be running a web-design site on which a transgender activist employed your free templte, as opposed to the transgenderist using your custom design service and insisting you build a pro-transgender site.
All fair points. But imagine you are a freelancer, and someone you think is basically evil (for example one of those responsible for the covid folly) asks you to do some job for them, would you accept it?
Well, I was a doctor, and as a private contractor to the NHS could remove people from my list if they actually offended in some way. But that did not stop me treating some pretty nasty people to the best of my ability. I was supposed to heal the sick, not the deserving sick.
However, asking me to participate in some evil act – such as social abortion – was another, and increasingly difficult, matter. The State increasingly tried to control the conscience of the doctor by eliminating options one by one.
That’s commendable of you. I think it’s probably immoral not to treat the sick, if you’re able to, but I am not sure it should be illegal. But withholding goods and services from your sworn enemies – for argument’s sake, Susan Michie – seems fair enough to me. Of course we here at DS were and are considered enemies by many – irresponsible granny killers. It’s tricky.
Well that explains the level of brainwashing lol.
Why do you feel you have the right to demand a reason for someone not serving someone else? Maybe that individual has been rude to staff, attacked the owner or a dozen other reasons.
And what on earth has race got to do with Farage? Honestly it amazes me the level of brainwashing some people have had in the UK, any question whatsoever now ends up being dragged into race or gender.
Banks are not monopoly providers though, there are hundreds of bank and building societies here.
Certainly many, yes, though I think there’s a good chance they will end up acting in unison on many issues.
If you’re suggesting they have a blacklist then you should expose that. Somehow I doubt it.
I’m not suggesting that though it’s possible. What seems to me very plausible is that banks would act in lockstep with regard to any organisation or individual with the wrong views. This already seems to be happening to an extent.
..you are right..it’s impossible to find one that is not captured by the prevailing ‘world agenda’….ESG’s, wokism, stakeholder capitalism….Agenda 2030…..
If you can view Twitter, this is an interesting thread on the subject..or his video..I have to admit he’s a bit pedestrian, but he does illuminate some of this stuff…
https://twitter.com/kieranjwhite/status/1675117045174747136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TEoJXLnOH8&t=2420s
Its all been a very long time in the making ebygum. As Ike would say ‘totalitarian tiptoe’ and I agree with him..
Watch the documentary “The Bank of Dave” to see how many hurdles were put in place to try and stop someone setting up a new bank. It is an excellent series and eye-opening.
My advice : Close your bank accounts, move everything to a Building Society. They are not run by hedge funds and don’t have to follow ESG if the members decide otherwise.
Yorkshire Building Society elbowed a dog collar for his belief that there are only two genders.
Yes they did. However they don’t have to do it, there is no “share pressure” and members can get up on their hind legs and vote agianst it at the AGM.
…I don’t argue with your point….but pretty much all of the most popular Building societies have signed up to ESG…Yorkshire, Nationwide, Skipton, Leeds, Coventry….
Why am I having to repeat what I think is a simple point?
Every member has one vote. They can vote at the AGM to change anything they want, including the management. If people want to stop it all they have to do is put it to the vote and vote on it.
It can’t get any easier.
I’m a bit worried as my bank
(like all others on the High Street) was festooned in rainbow flags throughout June.
I have monthly direct debit payments going to:
The Daily Telegraph, The Spectator, The SDP, The Free Speech Union and The Daily Sceptic.
I have some right of centre, libertarian views but I have never voted Tory in my life. In fact I could not bring myself to vote for any of the lockdown supporting uni-party candidates and spoilt my ballot at the last two elections.
Yes, I didn’t vote last local elections either. I wonder what will happen if they start doing searches for individual publications (or start looking at our Amazon purchases!)
You can be sure Monty.. that just by posting on a site like this you are being monitored by somebody or other. The 77th brigade visits this site for sure. Anonymity of screen names means nothing.. they know who you are..
How you vote doesn’t worry them – it’s your soul they’re after.
There is is again – if not ‘far right’ it’s now ‘right of centre’. This pointless and destructive polarisation into right and left when the vast majority of people rotate somewhere about the centre – slightly right on some issues, slightly left on others and utterly ignored on all of it – is infuriating. Questioning transactivism is NOT solely a right wing matter, it’s a matter of biological imperative, child safeguarding and sanity! Enough already.
That’s the Amercianisation of political debate: Every American politician must make a great show of fighting evil Germans^WNazis, even in total absence of any to fight. Hence, everybody who disagrees with anyone on anything is referred to as Nazi. Right-wing Nazis hold abhorrent beliefs like Men and women are biologically different. Left-wing Nazis hold as abhorrent beliefs like We musts stop using fire, otherwise, the weather gods will kill us all one day! But regardless of left, right or centre and of any specific beliefs someone may hold, everyone’s a Nazi to those who disagree with him, that is The Enemy[tm].
Something I forgot: There are also middle-wing Nazis holding very moderate positions like Fact don’t change just because somebody doesn’t like them. These are the most evil of the lot because they end up being opposed to anybody’s wild flights of fancy.
I think if the word Nazi was dropped and Bolshevik was put in its place it would be a lot more accurate..
Robert Malone has started calling them cultural marxists, in line with James Lindsay’s epic presentation to the European Parliament, so you’re in good company!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBZ6-Rvuaa4
It’s the dialectic : Team Red v Team blue, Cons V Labour, free markets v socialism, Ukraine v Russia. They are coralling people into believing there are only two allowable views, both of which they own.
Yes..
Here..here.. I agree with your post in its entirety..
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“And perhaps most importantly, our Board members and CEOs would, like most of us, like to do good. Perhaps less nobly, but also relatable if we’re honest with ourselves, they’d also like to be seen and celebrated for doing good. And you’re not getting an award at a gala dinner for simply running a power tool company effectively.”
Exactly this. This also applies to people working in many industries and sectors and roles. The role is secondary, just a vehicle for frustrated do-gooders and seekers of glory who want to change the world. Media, “journalism”, advertising, academia etc etc.
This is the wrong question. The right question is “Why are you using banks?”.
Banks are run by and for shareholders, they are run by the hedge funds who hold the majority of their shares. They don’t care about the individual and operate against the interests of the public.
Building societies, however, don’t have shares. They are owned and run by the members. Each member gets a vote whether he has £100 or £5million in his account. The “profits” are shared amongst the members in the form of lower borrowing costs and higher savings rates. Every service you get with a bank you can get at a Building Society.
Stop using banks. They are run by evil, psychopathic individuals who will do anything to make a buck.
Yorkshire Building society?
Anglican vicar Reverend Richard Fothergill claimed that his Yorkshire Building Society account was shuttered days after writing to the bank to complain about its public messaging during Pride month.
https://staging.dailysceptic.org/2023/07/03/government-tells-banks-to-uphold-free-speech-as-blacklisting-scandal-deepens/
Yes, a building society acted in that way.
Does that mean the members cannot change that?
No.
In the case of Nigel, he should identify as a woman, change his name to Nigella Farage, and then see if any of the banks refuse to open an account for a transgender customer.
I’m in favour of adding another letter to the LGBTQIA+ rubbish: ‘N’ for ‘Normal’. That means the entire human race will qualify and we can shut the whole thing down as unnecessary. Being mildly on the autistic spectrum means I’m supposedly now in the LGBTQIA+ crap, as they’ve added another letter A for ‘Autistic’. I refuse to be associated with child groomers and other sexual deviants. If the LGB community has any sense, they’ll separate from the TQIA+ movement.
The issue with BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street’s ESG-rated ‘stakeholder capitalism’ (aka economic fascism) is that serving shareholders isn’t the priority anymore: shareholders’ money is held hostage as the value tanks and companies become ever more dependent on the Big Three for a line in credit. Shareholders whose money has been invested by the Big Three can’t pull the money out because the value’s dropped too much and the Big Three have a controlling share bloc of approximately 20 per cent in almost all major Fortune 500 corporations, thanks to proxy voting laws. Examples include: Amazon, Alphabet, Apple, Microsoft, Google, Meta, Comcast, Fox, Disney, Warner Bros Discovery, Ford, GM, Coca Cola, Procter & Gamble and Pfizer. CEOs’ bonuses are dependent on ESG scores, so companies will toe the line drawn by Larry Fink, who openly admits his hedge fund is forcing this culture on businesses. If you really want to stop woke capital, the Big Three investment banks need raiding by the police and the people in charge indicted for failure to perform fiduciary duties, fraud and extortion then breaking up, along with bringing the proxy vote rule to an end. It won’t happen, because with over $20 trillion under… Read more »
Farage had an account with them for 40 years, or so I heard. To close his account without explanation is appalling. I hope they go bust!
They did: the UK Government bought them out!
…. with our dough.
We could do with a list of banks that aren’t Woke.
We need a list of non-woke businesses across the board. There are websites dedicated to this in the USA. The UK, which is further down the road in terms of corporate capture, probably only has small businesses remaining that aren’t involved. Our local Tesco has a ‘Pride’ section. No one appears to have been near it, because most people outside of London, Brighton and Manchester wouldn’t be seen dead near a Pride section! However, a suspicious number of clothes in the children’s department appear to have rainbow colouring…
“Are our Board members and CEOs uniquely unqualified or, perhaps, bad actors?”
That’s easy – bad actors.
On visiting a local hospital yesterday, they had three flags flying, on of which was the pride flag. They can’t get their care right but I’m sure if I complained, I’d have been denied access and sent on my way.
Brilliant idea!
Anybody would think the banking service was free and they are doing us a huge favour. The customers pay for it, it’s a business, not the national conscience.
How can it be that in all our banks no-one at all, either at director level or at senior management level, did not have the courage to stand up against this vile agenda being pushed by this vile organisation? Surely there must be some people in these banks who are opposed to it … but why did they not campaign and vote against it or are they ALL so brainwashed like even the Bank of England boss, Bailey, who has recently demonstrated that ANYONE in high office (like Starmer) can be that stupid? Now this vile organisation has got into the banks and found them to be a pushover, they won’t stop there. In six – nine – twelve months time they will be back with a new set of criteria that the banks must support. They will say that… ‘As you supported our agenda 2023, we now require you to support our next (even more vile) agenda 2024. You can’t say no, or the ESG score that ‘we’ issue to you will go down to zero.’ At that point those directors & senior management who were opposed to the 2023 agenda but were too cowardly to voice their opposition… Read more »