Why Are University Students So Oddly Passive and Disengaged?

Yesterday, one of my students came to see me. She had failed her exam, and wanted some ‘feedback’ on how she could improve. I of course agreed, and we sat down together to look at her paper, for which she had received a mark of 13 out of 100 (the requirement to pass being 40).

What was immediately evident was that she simply had not displayed any real knowledge about the subject she had been studying ostensibly for a year. One could have put the exam questions to somebody down at the local pub and received broadly the same kind of common sense (and wrong) responses. I put it to her that in order to pass a subject at university, it is necessary to know something about it – and that the reason she had failed was because she evidently did not in this case really know anything about the area which the exam concerned.

Strangely (I was expecting her to insist that she had studied hard for the exam or come up with some kind of ‘my hamster died’ excuse for her performance) she readily conceded my point. In fact, she displayed a blithe indifference to the idea that there might be anything shameful in not knowing anything about a subject she had been studying for many months, at a cost of almost £10,000 in tuition fees alone. “I didn’t really revise,” she said. “And I only really came to the first couple of lectures.”

“How about I give you some feedback when you put in some effort?” is what I wanted to say, but didn’t. I of course was a bit more polite than that. But I did tell her that the only ‘feedback’ I could give was that she might think about studying properly and actually reading things – and then try to display an understanding of what she had read. She took this as one would take a recommendation from a doctor that one ought to go on a diet: with a wincing acknowledgement that I was probably right, conveyed in such a way as to imply that she would probably go on stuffing her face with black forest gateau.

What is one to make of this attitude? The university I work for is by no means at the lower end of the scale and we ostensibly recruit students with decent ‘A’ levels or at least lots of UCAS points (not necessarily the same thing). But this oddly passive, disengaged stance is becoming increasingly common – I’d indeed say it characterises the majority of the student body in my department. My students almost seem to take the suggestion that they might have to study to get a degree as an affront. And they display, if not contempt, then a profound indifference to the educational experience. It is as though they exist at a level of psychic distance from their learning: it is something that is just supposed to happen, somehow, without them ever really having to do anything about it.

Older people of course have always complained that younger people don’t know anything and are feckless, and it has always been the case that university students don’t study hard enough, especially in their first year. But this level of disengagement is genuinely new. When I first started teaching at university, taking a class was often like traffic control: all of the students would attend, would have prepared by doing the required reading, and would be intellectually engaged – even if they were wrong, they would merrily voice their opinions and offer answers to questions. Fast forward ten years and attendance is abysmal (it isn’t unusual for literally only one or two students out of a class list of ten or twelve to show up to tutorials), students almost never adequately prepare, and the atmosphere in classes is often one of stony silence – like delivering a seminar to a class full of cats, or trees, or a wall on which paint is drying.

It is too easy to say that the lockdowns caused this, although they undoubtedly accelerated a trend – one can’t spend 18 months telling young people that in-person education is basically optional and doesn’t really matter and expect it to have no effect on how much they value the endeavour. It is also much too easy to blame the introduction of tuition fees – you would expect people to work harder for a qualification if they are paying a lot of money for it, and in any case students were paying fees back when I started in 2012 and were perfectly well motivated then. All academics have their own pet theories as to where the problem lies. My own view is not exactly that social media is to blame but rather the fact that, thanks to the development of streaming, young people are now reared by screens to an extent that was never previously possible, and develop a stunted, passive outlook as a consequence (why do anything if you can just turn on Netflix or YouTube and be mindlessly entertained?).

Whatever the cause, it is terrifying to witness first hand just how shallow the lives of so many young people now are, how disengaged they seem not just from learning but from the world around them, and how deep is their apparent lack of personal agency. The idea that it is within their grasp to improve their lives through effort seems to have been squeezed out of them (if they ever knew it to begin with) as though by a vice. This makes me fearful not just about the future of our politics but about the future of our economy and our culture: what happens to a society when its young adults are so disconnected from the exercise of living and so apparently uninterested in being good at things or learning anything of value? It won’t be pretty, that’s for sure.

Conservative commentators and politicians have gravitated towards a vision of universities being ‘in crisis’ due to capture by the Left or the woke. That too is a serious matter but of an order of magnitude less consequence than the vapidity and sloth, and contempt for the pursuit of excellence, which is so starkly in evidence among the student body. This is what we need to begin to grapple with, but I don’t think there is a politician in the land who is capable of even beginning to acknowledge the problem.

Busqueros is a pseudonym.

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godknowsimgood
godknowsimgood
2 years ago

I wonder how many of them are taking prescribed drugs – which treat symptoms, and don’t address causes, and have various side effects – in addition to social drugs, including alcohol?

DomH75
2 years ago
Reply to  godknowsimgood

Discipline is the biggest issue. When I was 18-19, I was really self-disciplined. After my HND, my self-discipline had plummeted because I’d had too much leisure time. Everyone I’ve known, including myself, left university thinking the world owed us a living when I didn’t know anything. My analytical skills and focus were far worse for my time at college. I ought to have gone straight into the business as an apprentice, but apprenticeships were abolished because employers had started using them as a way to sack older workers as soon as younger ones had been trained up. As it stands, the best thing happened to me in my late 20s when I fell on my arse and had to restart my career from scratch.

DomH75
2 years ago

There’s an apocalyptic atmosphere in our civilisation: nothing matters, because activists have made the idea that the environment is about to collapse mainstream and everything around us gives the impression civilisation is about to die. Everyone knows politicians are corrupt, learning facts has been replaced by looking at Wikipedia, then forgetting what you just read. It’s nihilism and it’s inevitable among the majority of students who are now forced to go to university. Face it: there are 20-somethings with BAs and MAs hired to do jobs now that someone with five O levels and a couple of CSEs would have done 50 years ago. I’m well-read and interested in all sorts of subjects, but I found academia stultifying: I’m a ‘doer’, so I really needed ‘on the job’ training as soon as I got out of school. My other learning is something I do at my leisure. As it stands, I got out of college in my early 20s and, having used my HND to get a job, promptly had to bin everything I’d been taught on my industry-orientated diploma, because their technology was years out of date. So the two years of theory were useless and the practical aspect… Read more »

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
2 years ago
Reply to  DomH75

All thanks to Tony Bliar and his “all must have degrees” policy. It was always a scam to reduce the youth unemployment figures, for which he took credit. Of course, the consequent renaming of poor colleges as universities, the vastly increased numbers of useless academics and garbage degrees this policy spawned weren’t laid at his door.

Jon Garvey
2 years ago

“If you get a really good degree, you can be the best educated shelf-stacker in your town, and never have to pay your student loan off. Or a mortgage, because you’ll never get one of those.”

DomH75
2 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

A young chap at the Tesco’s up the road from me the other day told me most of his age group working there have BAs or MAs.

Midnight Lime
Midnight Lime
2 years ago

Is there actually any meaningful distinction between the problem of left wing capture and intellectual sloth? I think not. Leftism *is* intellectual sloth. All left wing philosophy and politics stands upon Platonic primacy of consciousness as opposed to Aristotle’s primacy of existence. Thus intellectual sloth and leftism are one and the same thing.

DomH75
2 years ago
Reply to  Midnight Lime

Bingo! Existence exists. Ayn Rand put it rather succinctly as ‘I am, therefore I think.’ The postmodern left denies objective reality. If the left believes reality is subject to one’s own opinion and subject to social trends, only stagnation and collapse can follow.

Midnight Lime
Midnight Lime
2 years ago
Reply to  DomH75

Objectivist Epistemology is the perfect antidote to post-modernism 🙂

Castorp
Castorp
2 years ago
Reply to  Midnight Lime

I believe you’ve misunderstood consciousness, if you see its primacy as a deterministic, Marxist position.
As Roger Penrose said, ‘human consciousness is non-algorithmic and a product of quantum effects’.
In other words – yes, consciousness holds primacy (as physicists like Max Planck understood), but it’s not deterministic.

Corky Ringspot
2 years ago
Reply to  Midnight Lime

Yes indeed. How many lefty youngsters (and some oldsters) have you met who can just trot out leftist tenets learnt parrot-fashion? They don’t have to think about them – they just list them, producing them with aggressive rapidity, like machine gun fire. The Righty has to think before explaining his approach to life, because he doesn’t have an equivalent ‘list’ of demands that can be displayed on command, like identity papers shown to an SS officer. The Righty’s equivalent rule book tells him that that there aren’t really any ‘rules’ at all beyond considerate behaviour and not failing to take into account those things that have worked in the past.

Corky Ringspot
2 years ago
Reply to  Midnight Lime

As a former teacher in the state and private systems, and as a private tutor (having left those environments behind, thank God) it was obvious to me that a certain process has led to what ‘Busqueros’ describes here. I and a few of the less indoctrinated teachers knew what the inevitable consequence would be, but there was never any point in making anything of it. I taught French and Spanish (- not that the specific subject necessarily matters here). The curriculum required teachers to teach far more than was possible to teach (in any meaningful way) within each period between exams. They would start the term with high hopes, and after a month, or less, would realise that they just weren’t getting through the material. Most did a botch job from that point. Most significantly, they began to teach “to” the exam – a common expression which meant providing the students with whatever they needed to pass the exam. This involved a great deal of ‘spoon-feeding’ of information to students, who were never taught how to do their own research, look things up and risk putting down the results of their investigations on paper. Many teachers went as far as… Read more »

ebygum
2 years ago

…but how hard did the students work for the A levels that the university grades them on?
I know some young people who work extremely hard..I know they are not all the same…..
but I also know people who tell me the school their children go to tell pupils what to revise for exams…and are more interested in the school keeping its high exam pass rate….!
so if they are spoon-fed there, why would they not expect it again?

DomH75
2 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

In my 1980s/90s school days, I struggled with the mathematical aspect of chemistry and the most GCSE revision I did was thus chemistry, where my hard-ass, army reservist teacher had loads of us (voluntarily) staying after school. He made us do test paper after test paper, and it gave us a good, broad grounding by the time of the exam. Consequently, even though I had poor maths coursework marks and was told by my maths teacher that he didn’t think I’d pass, I aced my maths exams as well and passed. So an arts-orientated student like me did better in maths and science. The humanities subjects were a joke. Our English language and literature GCSEs were 100 per cent coursework and marks depended on how much we regurgitated our teacher’s politicised views of the subject. The teacher only had to submit half a dozen essays per class to confirm his marking, so he effectively awarded us our GCSE grades. I had to bin good essays, marked down by him because I wasn’t highlighting things like racism in Shakespeare and the works of Graham Greene and replace them with box-ticking crap in the last three weeks before final submissions to ensure… Read more »

NeilParkin
2 years ago

Good points made, but I wonder if its a simple as all the good discoveries have been made. Here I sit with a phone in my pocket upon which I can access all of human knowledge from all time, and yet I dick about with social media and kitty pictures, and I’m 62.

Actually, I’ve treated Covid as a Masters and have read endlessly on Politics and Economics and other subjects wide and varied, but you still can’t beat a good kitty video…

DomH75
2 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Yes, I have a particular thing for Norwegian Forest cats, having owned one in the past! 😉

COVID-19 led me to reading insane amounts of literature on virology. I haven’t retained a lot of it now, because I no longer have 77th Brigade trolls on the Telegraph website to argue with! Economics and philosophy have long been an interest of mine anyway. I took Government and Politics at A level, so they’re logical continuations of my studies.

The human race turned its back on manned space exploration in the 1970s and on continuing to advance practical technology when it abandoned supersonic passenger flights with the demise of Concorde and not replacing it. Now we just argue amongst ourselves. If we were gripped by building lunar bases, manned missions to Mars and the asteroid belt and newer and better forms of mass transportation (remember HOTOL?) over the last 50 years or so, I think we’d be in a better place now as a society, instead of navel-gazing and picking made-up fights over ‘cultural appropriation’ and ‘micro-aggressions’.

JeremyP99
2 years ago

“she had received a mark of 13 out of 100 (the requirement to pass being 40)”

Studying for a BA in Stupidity one assumes…. 40 out of 100 for a pass? What?

NeilParkin
2 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

It amazed me when my kids told me that you can now get more questions wrong than right, and still get a pass. We reward mediocrity, praise the average, and make excuses for the poor and shoddy. 60 out of 100 minimum, please.

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
2 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

As a boomer I’d want 80%!