Liberals Still Vastly Overestimate Police Shootings of Black Men
After the death of George Floyd on 25th May 2020, America was rocked by weeks of protests and rioting – 25 people lost their lives and property damage totalled $1–2 billion.
The protestors’ main grievance was “systemic police racism”. As the media reported endlessly at the time, black people make up around 30% of the victims of police shootings despite comprising only 13% of the population. Black people, it was said, could not even walk down the street without fear of being gunned down by a racist police officer.
Yet the narrative was flawed. After all, victims of police shootings are overwhelmingly male, but this doesn’t mean the police are sexist against men. It is simply that men are more likely to get into situations where a police officer ends up shooting them.
What’s more, activists were vastly inflating the numbers. According to the Washington Post’s police shooting database, only 12 unarmed black men were killed by police in 2019 –in a country of 330 million.
We now know that part of the problem was innumeracy. In 2020, Skeptic Research Centre asked a representative sample of Americans, “How many unarmed black men were killed by police in 2019?” Options were: “about 10” (the correct answer), “about 100”, “about 1,000”, “about 10,000”, and “more than 10,000”. Results are shown below:

As you can see, “very liberal” respondents – the ones most supportive of the protests – massively overestimated the number of unarmed black men killed by police. Over 50% said “about 1,000” or greater, and only 16% gave the correct answer of “about 10”. It’s possible that America would have been spared the unrest in the summer of 2020 had people been better informed of the facts.
It’s now three years later, and Skeptic Research Centre just asked another sample of Americans the same question. What did they find? There were slight improvements, but “very liberal” still massively overestimated the number of unarmed black men killed by police. Results are shown below:

Fewer “very liberal” respondents gave answers of “about 1,000” or greater, and more gave answers of “about 100”. Yet only 17% gave the correct answer of “about 10” – just one percentage point more than in 2020. “Conservative” and “very conservative” respondents did about as well as last time.
On the one hand, it’s surprising we don’t see more improvement among “very liberal” respondents. There are numerous articles and videos debunking the narrative about “systemic police racism”, and the Washington Post’s database is freely available online; anyone can download it and check the numbers for themself.
On the other hand, it’s not surprising. Why not? Because the mainstream media hasn’t levelled with its audience. Liberal Americans don’t get their news from the kind of outlets that question the narrative about “system police racism”. They get their news from CNN and the New York Times. And those outlets still cover race and crime in a highly misleading way.
You can’t expect people to update their beliefs when they don’t have correct information.
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“I am really bad at Maths.”
“I don’t do numbers!”
“You have to measure everything, don’t you, where’s your humanity?!”
Thank you, Western “education”.
Also “mathematics are racist”
“Oh sorry, I didn’t realise you had a PHD in XYZ” is the one I always liked from these people, more-so with regards to the COVID nonsense.
Imagine being such a fuck-wit that you couldn’t comprehend simple representations of data in graph form…
I think most would agree that’s 12 too many.
Elsewhere in the article we find
Note it does not say that black people are 30% of the victims of police shootings of unarmed people. We are not being offered comparable data.
We are not told the ratio of black to non-black unarmed people shot by police or the ratio of black to non-black armed people shot by police.
From this side of the pond it seems that criminals in the USA are more likely to be armed than in the UK. Mostly we assume armed with firearms though I don’t think the second amendment (right to keep and bear arms) or the police shooting reports specify this.
Of course, what we’re not getting is any exploration as to whether black or non-black people are more likely to be involved in crime in the USA, or to go armed – and certainly no attempt to explain why.
The information is all out there, easily found. As to the why, why is anything like it is. It is what it is. Outcomes vary.
I’m not convinced it’s to do with the media..and I may be wrong, but I associate the more liberal respondents with voting Democrat..and I’m sorry to say they are plainly nuts.
I think the media they read might actually reflect their views… rather than the other way around..?
I’m reminded of the Rasmussen poll about Convid last year where Democrats polled really high for terrible sanctions against the ‘unvaccinated’….
– 55% supported fines against the unvaccinated simply for refusing the jab.
– 59% supported permanent house confinement for anyone who refused to get vaccinated.
– 48% supported fines or PRISON for questioning vaccine efficacy on social media.
– 45% supported the government having the ability to put the unnvaccinated in “designed facilities” aka internment camps.
– 47% supported “a government tracking program” to monitor unvaccinated citizens.
– 29% supported the state being able to REMOVE UNVACCINATED PARENTS’ CUSTODY OVER THEIR OWN CHILDREN.
You say Liberal..I say Democrat..and I call most of them out as bonkers…..
Indeed
They choose to believe things that fit with their worldview
100% certain it’s going to be shtf time about the murder of Mark Duggan, brutally executed merely for a ‘psyops’ purpose