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godknowsimgood
godknowsimgood
2 years ago

It’s difficult to distinguish which party is the Reclaim Party and which party is the Reform Party, like Dundee and Dundee United football clubs, it’s difficult to remember which is which. I know that Andrew Bridgen is in one of them and that Richard Tice is leader of one of them, and that Laurence Fox is in one of them, but I wouldn’t be confident of naming the correct party in each case.

A Nigel Farage-Boris Johnson party would have to be a broad church but would really shake things up, especially wokeness, seems badly needed.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  godknowsimgood

Er, Farage was weak on Lockdowns and Johnson imposed them. No thanks.

Fox and Bridgen are Reclaim – very sound IMO. Tice is Reform – better than Tories but he was disparaging about Bridgen.

Heritage would be who I’d vote for if they stood where I am. Kurten was against lockdowns from the start.

Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
2 years ago

Reclaim is a fake party: it is impossible for plebs to join.

Fox is, of course, an actor.

Reclaim is also very clearly controlled opposition.

Heritage does seem genuine and I’ve given them some money.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

Don’t know about fake but it doesn’t seem like a normal party, more of a campaign vehicle.

My assumption is that Fox believes in what he is saying – if he’s faking it, it’s a very elaborate one involving him becoming a hate figure.

I agree with a lot of what he says, and sometimes he says it well, and certainly unapologetically, so on balance it seems like a force for good.

godknowsimgood
godknowsimgood
2 years ago

I don’t think Reclaim, Reform, or Heritage (which I’d forgotten about) have any chance of forming a government in our lifetimes, or even winning a few seats, or having any influence. That’s why any opposition to the woke parties – Conservatives, Labour, LibDems, Scot Nats, Greens – needs to be a broad church with big personalities whom enough people might actually vote for to produce change, and include Boris Johnson (about whom I have many reservations) and/or Nigel Farage.

What’s the alternative?

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  godknowsimgood

You may be right. But the Tories are supposed to be a “broad church” and look what we get. Johnson is not a conservative. Don’t know about Farage.

BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

Reclaim have a minor issue of banks refusing to open an official Reclaim Party account through which they can process membership fees. This is what Andrew Bridgen said in a meeting on Tuesday 6th June. Even without digital ID, banks still wield too much power. What is it that TPTB fear so much from a political opposition party that they’re using every underhand trick in the book to discredit & frustrate its operation?
I cannot verify that statement as I had to take it at face value.

DS99
2 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

I agree, Reclaim is a fake party. If you go to the website, you can’t actually join it, you can only follow them by subscribing to emails. And yes, Lozza Fox is an actor from a very illustrious family and he’s pretty good at it. Real grass roots parties don’t get much press coverage.

DS99
2 years ago
Reply to  DS99

https://miriaf.co.uk

Just for extra info on this one. This lady might be far out there for many DS readers taste but I assume she has done considerably more research than anyone else here has done on this subject.

richardw53
richardw53
2 years ago
Reply to  godknowsimgood

The elephant in the room for any party joining up with Johnson and his ilk is his fanaticism over net zero. Tice is very quiet on this subject. Yet net zero is a bigger threat than anything else to our future prosperity and liberty.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  richardw53

Really? Just net zero? Not lockdowns, mass immigration?

Dinger64
2 years ago

Sorry mate, but net zero is the biggest threat to the western world let alone individual nations! It must be stopped before any of the other problems can be dealt with properly

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  Dinger64

It’s a huge threat, yes. Lockdowns and mass immigration are related, IMO.

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
2 years ago

It’s all related because all heads belong to the same snake.

Dinger64
2 years ago

👍

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
2 years ago
Reply to  godknowsimgood

I don’t trust any of them. Anyone seeking power at this time needs looking at. Politicians like smiling. Any idiot can smile if they’ve got a good set of gnashers but today’s world is obsessed with toothy smiles. It’s the selfie generation, all teeth and no grit. And they like saying the right words in the right order and basically lulling you into a sense of believing their competence and sincerity…until they get into power that is. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely goes the saying. I don’t know what it is but we have people who do not take responsibility and consider themselves unaccountable. They do not commit harakiri any longer when they should. We need kings who wash the peasants feet, we need elders not buccaneers just out of Oxbridge, who have no real life experience and consider a legal career or the greasy pole of local politics as the means to acquire power and with it wealth. Above all, we need some adults.

godknowsimgood
godknowsimgood
2 years ago

So you’re just like Estragon in Waiting for Godot: “Nothing to be done.”

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
2 years ago
Reply to  godknowsimgood

Did I say that? I’m pretty sure I didn’t. It seems to me that what you are saying is that we go through the same old tired and tested process of putting our faith in tired old politicians and expect a different result. Well, I’m certainly NOT waiting for godot. Down here in the Shires, we are actively promoting our own town meeting to counteract the inept town council and its equally inept master, the county council. We even have Richard Vobes coming along to open the event and want people to start imagining and creating their own future. We call it a ‘Folkmoot’ – a meeting of people.

godknowsimgood
godknowsimgood
2 years ago

If you “don’t trust any of them”, what’s the alternative? How can, for example, illegal immigration be stopped, or further lockdowns or net zero?

I don’t think ‘fookmoots’ can stop them, or replace elected councils or elected governments.

As Churchill said:

“Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…”.

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
2 years ago
Reply to  godknowsimgood

You have to try. An opinion is just an opinion: an action carries some sort of weight.

I’m not in fear of all those things you mention and I think we need to get beyond being worried all the time. Yes, illegal immigration is not wanted, neither is Net Zero or lockdowns BUT we have much more power if we bond together in strong communities – hence beginning to create a strong community. Just putting faith in people like Johnson and Farage ain’t going to do it. We are looking at many things and if other people also started building their communities, then we’d have networks of strong communities. They can’t lock us all up!

There is always an alternative. Also, democracy – true democracy – is missing a vital component: jural assemblies. If we don’t at least try, then they’ve already won.

Mogwai
2 years ago

Actually that Horowitz article I shared yesterday isn’t the doesn’t come anywhere near the reality of it, as reported in this thread by ex-pharma exec Aussie. The adverse effects reported since the roll-out of the death jabs are significantly higher;

”5 million cummulative (since the beginning of vaccinations ie Dec 2020 to June 2022)

1.6 million during reports interval (Dec 2021 to June 2022)”

https://twitter.com/_aussie17/status/1669109288009359360

Mogwai
2 years ago

As if the Aussies haven’t suffered enough, looks like they’re getting mRNA introduced to the food supply. I read somewhere ages ago they already started this but some cattle died. Not sure if anyone can verify this. But if it’s anything like the human roll-out of the toxic shots then a few hundred/thousand deaths here and there isn’t going to be stopping their agenda. 🙁 ”Meat & Livestock Australia (MLA) has recently funded a project to produce and test mRNA vaccines that can be rapidly mass produced in Australia in the event of a lumpy skin disease (LSD) or other exotic disease outbreak. Here, MLA’s Program Manager for Animal Wellbeing, Michael Laurence explains more about this project and what it will deliver. “This project will develop a mRNA vaccine pipeline initially for LSD, but potentially for other emergency diseases,” Michael said. “This will enable capacity for rapid mass production of a vaccine for LSD in the event of an outbreak.” Australia faces increasing biosecurity threats to its animal populations which have far reaching economic, social and animal welfare impacts. Next-generation (mRNA-based) vaccine technologies may provide a game-changing approach to emergency disease preparedness. “If properly harnessed, this technology could be used… Read more »

TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Australia is not exactly a through route to anywhere. If its farm animals are so unhealthy, it’s probably because of malnourishment and poor farming practices.

I diagnose more psychological nudgework promoting disease threat!

Mogwai
2 years ago

New research paper out from Kevin Bardosh et al looking at the scapegoating of the unvaccinated; ”Individuals unvaccinated against COVID-19 (C19) experienced prejudice and blame for the pandemic. Because people vastly overestimate C19 risks, we examined whether these negative judgements could be partially understood as a form of scapegoating (ie, blaming a group unfairly for an undesirable outcome) and whether political ideology (previously shown to shape risk perceptions in the USA) moderates scapegoating of the unvaccinated. We grounded our analyses in scapegoating literature and risk perception during C19. We obtained support for our speculations through two vignette-based studies conducted in the USA in early 2022. We varied the risk profiles (age, prior infection, comorbidities) and vaccination statuses of vignette characters (eg, vaccinated, vaccinated without recent boosters, unvaccinated, unvaccinated-recovered), while keeping all other information constant. We observed that people hold the unvaccinated (vs vaccinated) more responsible for negative pandemic outcomes and that political ideology moderated these effects: liberals (vs conservatives) were more likely to scapegoat the unvaccinated (vs vaccinated), even when presented with information challenging the culpability of the unvaccinated known at the time of data collection (eg, natural immunity, availability of vaccines, time since last vaccination). These findings support a… Read more »

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
2 years ago

“Privileges Committee inquisitor Bernard Jenkin attended drinks party during Lockdown” – what is it with our British leaders breaking lockdown ‘rules’ with a few drinks and cake? Cake? Couldn’t they at least have showed some style and had a masked ball in a stately home or a Roman-type orgy? I can imagine that the billionaires weren’t exactly cowering inside with facemasks and hand gel but probably basking on some tropical island and having sex with anything that moves before flying back to take the reins and put on their serious trousers. In my view, we should sack the whole bloody lot of them. They’re all lying, corrupt, self-serving careerists, stepping over each other in a panic to get to the exit before the guillotine of hypocrisy comes crashing down on their scrawny necks. It’s this type of farcical situation that takes the focus away from the fact that lockdown for something that had a high survival rate (was it a virus? was it something else? I don’t know) was ruinous for so many lives and businesses. It’s the Covid farce that we should be investigating and the lockdown fiasco that followed the farce and the jab that followed the covid… Read more »

Dinger64
2 years ago

“It’s ridiculous to think AI threatens humanity, says pioneer”
“Yann LeCun, Meta’s chief artificial intelligence scientist”

Just one letter “t” missing from his name to explain his worryingly biased views!

Mogwai
2 years ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Transhumanist fanboy and super-freak Harari says AI can rewrite the Bible. He’s a raving fantasist but with AI all bets are off I reckon.

”Yuval Noah Harari — an influential author, professor, and renowned public intellectual — said recently that artificial intelligence can create a “new Bible.”

He added that “throughout history, religions dreamt about having a book written by a superhuman intelligence, by a non-human entity” and that “in a few years there might be religions that are actually correct … just think about a religion whose holy book is written by an AI. That could be a reality in a few years.”

But he’d also be happy to put a stop to mankind as we know it and make a planet inhabited by cyborgs. Crazy-ass mother hubbard!

“For thousands of years, prophets and poets and politicians have used language and storytelling in order to manipulate and to control people and to reshape society,” he said, according to the paper. “Now AI is likely to be able to do it. And once it can… it doesn’t need to send killer robots to shoot us. It can get humans to pull the trigger.”

https://www.theblaze.com/news/ai-can-create-a-new-bible-influential-author-declares-in-a-few-years-there-might-be-religions-that-are-actually-correct

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

This guy is drunk on his own self-importance and perceived intellectualism. He doesn’t seem to have an ‘off’ button to press when his mouth runs away with his more bizarre, fabulist ideas. I don’t mind him expressing himself but he is Klaus Schwab’s roomie/puppet/pet and as such gets a big platform. Media love this stuff because it sells stories and it fits with the, in my view, demonic agenda unrolling before our very eyes. The idea that god, spirit, whatever you wish to call it, and thousands of years of meditation and contemplation etc is over just because this guy perceives of this ‘other’ – that none of us can explain, and which, for me, is a very personal, private matter of one’s own connection to something more profound and deep and mysterious than we could ever hope to understand – as a phenomenon that is used to manipulate and control is hubris of the very worst kind. Did poets and philosophers (forget politicians) use language and storytelling for thousands of years to manipulate and control people and reshape society OR is the WEF doing exactly that right now in plain sight? I would say the former were grappling with… Read more »

The old bat
2 years ago

“See it, say it, sod off”. Yes, silly signs are everywhere, but there is also another reason for some of them, which is the fear of companies being sued. Therefore if you get eaten by an escalator or fall off the platform, it’s your fault because you ignored the instructions. I don’t think having a sign absolves a business of responsibility in legal terms, but it might put some people off complaining.
“see it, say it, sorted” has always sounded nonsensical to me, especially with the disinclination of many companies to actually offer some kind of meaningful customer service. See it, say it – I say it’s utter b****cks, there, sorted for you.

WyrdWoman
2 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

Was in a chain restaurant the other lunchtime trying to order a burger. Separate menus for normie eaters and no gluten folk plus warning signs, etc. The lad at the bar went into a 5 minute question/answer spiel about allergies, ‘food safety’ and ‘risks’, all of which had to be repeated numerous times because he was utterly bored – but he would not process the order until he’d finished. I asked why he felt the need to make such a meal (sic) of it as most people with known allergies usually understand the risks – he launched into a pointless monologue, which I simply cut off with ‘so you’re protecting yourself against potential legal action. I get it’. I found the whole thing patronising and insulting. And the burger was only average so won’t be going there again.

Dinger64
2 years ago

I for one do not want Bunter Johnson in any new party! He’s untrustworthy old meat along with all the rest of them who agreed to net zero and lock downs, and still do! a clean sweep is what’s needed, fresh veiws not old agenda’s

huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  Dinger64

I agree completely Dinger. Bozo is a liar, he’s deceitful, thoroughly dishonest, unreliable and guilty of crimes against humanity. He belongs in prison. As a minimum.

Never forget. Never forgive.

WyrdWoman
2 years ago
Reply to  Dinger64

My dearly departed used to have a saying – never go out with the same person twice. I concur.

Freddy Boy
2 years ago

Paul Emberys flag clip reminds me of 1930,s Germany when the Nazi Swastika Flag was hoisted & carried at Adolphs Rallies ! In Fact it is the same !!!

WyrdWoman
2 years ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

The extent to which my (rural, fundamentally small c conservative) local area has been drenched Querty+ propaganda rainbows – a totalitarian dream – certainly has me agreeing with the guy with the phone.

Dinger64
2 years ago

Richard Tice recently posted a list of policies on twitter stating his parties intentions on many national matters.
His policy on net zero was blinding ,by its absence! Caution is required with reform, Tice is not against net zero policies!

huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Tice is a fake.

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Good teeth, smiles nice for the camera, and yes, probably a total fake!

huxleypiggles
2 years ago

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/waitrose-going-woke-going-broke-under-dame-empty-shelves/

An interesting article on the collapse of John White Partnership currently led by a useless woman called Sharon White.

Her cv shows that in the thirty years between 1989 and 2019 she was employed solely in taxpayer funded jobs ie variations on the Civil Service. What stands out a mile is that this woman is a typical public service disaster.

Somehow she managed to wangle herself in to top positions but as her undoubted ability to F#ck up each job became apparent she would move on and in typical civil service fashion clearly with a glowing reference each time – the Civil Service likes to get rid of failures by swiftly shifting them elsewhere in order to effect damage limitation.

Waitrose / John Lewis is thus the first real job this menace has ever held and she successfully guided the company to a £239 million loss in the last financial year.

Odds on bet she will be gone before the end of the year and if she chooses to carry on in some form of employment she will go back to the civil service to wreak even more damage.

The state of Britain.

ebygum
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

LOL! …but it’s worth it because we ticked the most important virtue signalling box!!

Proud to be ourselves..celebrating Pride together
https://www.waitrose.com/ecom/recipes/special-occasion/pride-recipes

Celebrate Pride month with bright and bold recipes, like our picture-perfect six-tier rainbow cake created by John Whaite.

huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

😀😀😀

ebygum
2 years ago

Wow..new from Kanekoa Twitter

https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1669049885411401729

NEW – A confidential Pfizer document dated August 2022 shows the company observed 1.6 million adverse events covering nearly every organ system.

•73,542 vascular disorders
•696,508 nervous system disorders
•61,518 eye disorders
•47,000 ear disorders
•225,000 skin and tissue disorders
•178,000 reproductive disorders
•190,000 respiratory disorders
•77,000 psychiatric disorders
•127,000 cardiac disorders
•100,000 blood disorders
•3,711 tumors

The broad scope of injuries affecting every single organ system is simply extraordinary. Yet to this day, the FDA continues to criminally label the Pfizer shot as safe and effective.”
Pfizer’s pharmacovigilance documents requested by the European Union’s drug regulator, the European Medicines Agency, have been released.
Over 10,000 categories of nearly 1.6 million adverse events – brought to you by Pfizer!
They never should have given this to children who were never at risk from the disease.

https://www.conservativereview.com/horowitz-confidential-pfizer-document-shows-the-company-observed-1-6-million-adverse-events-covering-nearly-every-organ-system-2661316948.html

Mogwai
2 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

Already been shared. See my first post above. 🙂

ebygum
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Should have looked first..I usually do but I’m on holiday so dipping in and out!
Note to self..must try harder!! LOL..

Either way..it bloody shocking..and evil….

JohnK
2 years ago

A sale to China? https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articles/2023/06/vodafonethree-merger-proposal-sparks-national-security-concerns/ The planned Vodafone/Three merger seems to have generated a scare.

JohnK
2 years ago

“A free and open debate to decide what that is…” (referring to a potential cause of the problem). By JC around 5m 25s n a short clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL8aC09V3K8&list=WL&index=6&t=23s Myocardial disease clip.

huxleypiggles
2 years ago

https://www.euronews.com/2023/06/14/eu-blocks-ukraine-grain-imports-to-five-countries-including-poland

Actually, what the EU is doing is deliberately disrupting the grain markets in Europe. I wonder why?