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Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago

Worst still Farage talks a lot while sitting comfortably at Going Broke News

By the way Mark Steyn’s latest show was on his site last night so you can watch it now or later. https://www.steynonline.com/13322/britain-brexit-and-betrayal

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Free Lemming
3 years ago

The FSU seems to be all over the rights of high profile BBC presenters engaging in obvious political activism to be able to stick a middle finger up to half the people that pay their wages – against the Royal Charter. Does anyone know if the FSU showed any appetite whatsoever to defend the rights of Steyn for providing a counter narrative to the clearly fraudulent one being peddled without question by the BBC and MSM at large? If not, I don’t see how I can possibly keep supporting any group involved with this. I’ve been kicked in the head enough by these boots, I’m not going to pay for the wearer to buy some nice, shiny, new ones.

transmissionofflame
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

If not, I don’t see how I can possibly keep supporting any group involved with this.”

If you mean the FSU are you not in danger of making the perfect the enemy of the good?

Free Lemming
3 years ago

Well, a couple of points I guess:
1) not supporting is not the same as making an enemy
2) if you’ve been battered from pillar to post by the likes of Lineker and the BBC for years and watched them actively stifle free speech and opinion, then I’m not sure anyone that supports Lineker’s right to free speech over Steyn’s is ‘good’.

Much of this depends on whether you see it as a free speech issue or a political issue. I see it very much as a political issue of making free speech only available to the ‘right’ kind of people and views i.e. the left. I cannot stand by anyone that thinks that is ok or, even worse, actively supports it.

transmissionofflame
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

“making the perfect the enemy of the good” is not so much that you think the FSU is your enemy but that you choose not to support them because they are imperfect. I don’t remember them saying anything one way or the other about Steyn, which could well be in part because he’s more controversial but equally because they saw the case differently (the Lineker case was slightly nuanced, IMO, the Steyn case even more so), and also because the Lineker business was mainstream news whereas Steyn was not, and the FSU needs to be visible in the mainstream.
Do you seriously think that the FSU have any time for Lineker and his ilk? There are political issues here but the FSU IMO should try not to be political as it will be more effective if it remains neutral politically. Of course they are well aware of the double standards.
I struggle to see how you could view the FSU as “not good”. You obviously have a higher bar than I do. We have few allies – we should support the ones we do have, while of course criticising them robustly when we feel it necessary.

Free Lemming
3 years ago

Do you seriously think that the FSU have any time for Lineker and his ilk“. I’ve got to assume your unaware of their twitter feed and their outspoken support for Lineker on this issue. And I never said the FSU was “not good”. Please don’t use strawman arguments. You may have thought that’s what I implied, but you’ve quoted something I never posted. There’s more shades than simply good and not good.

Look, I’m a little confused by your prolonged attacks about this. As I’ve said before, and will say again, we disagree. Move on.

transmissionofflame
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Confused? What have I said that’s confusing?

Attacks? How have I “attacked” you? I am merely responding to your comment, as I have a different view. Isn’t that what we do on this forum?

Free Lemming
3 years ago

And one more time – we disagree, move on. No intention of falling out with you fella.

transmissionofflame
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Likewise. If I disagree with anyone on here, it’s never personal and we’re all on the same side.

Jane G
Jane G
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

TY explained at tortuous length last week and on his podcast with J Delingpole why he didn’t think Ofcom were in the wrong for their stance on Mark Steyn. For his part, Steyn disagrees. (I’m rooting for him)

I’m as irritated as anyone by the BBC’s apparent capitulation to Lineker, but as far as free speech goes, it must apply equally to those with whom we disagree as well as those on ‘our side’. Dammit….

Jon Garvey
3 years ago

“The Covid lie that drove lockdown…”

We are told that suppressing the lab leak was done by the Cabinet Office to safeguard diplomatic relations with China. Yet we had already had the Huawhe affair, democratic riots in Hong Kong were going strong, stories of Uyghur genocide and Social Credit were being circulated, and within a short time we were (and are) being told that war with China is inevitable over Taiwan and China’s desire to take over the world.

Meanwhile, we know that Fauci, Farrar, Vallance et al were engineering a cover-up to protect not Chinese malfeisance, but American/British collusion on gain-of-function work. What makes me think that keeping China sweet was more of a smokescreen than a diplomatic priority?

Steve-Devon
3 years ago

“Children as young as seven might be ‘mixed berry gender fluid muffins’, Welsh teachers told”  All of this begs the question as to why all this is being done? It is getting to be springtime and here in the rural boondocks nature is doing what nature does in springtime and you do not have to look far to see that it is 100% binary. The natural world knows that reproduction and new life equals survival and in springtime this is the big priority. For most mammals this involves the entirely binary matter of males and females producing young. The binary nature of mammalian reproduction is no less a factor for humans, you can talk about gender stereotypes and mixed up muffins as much as you want but unless males and females get together and do as the rest of nature does you will not have babies. And so one has to wonder if there is some weird agenda behind all this which is trying to work against normal human reproduction. If these schools were also doing some good old fashioned nature study then the children would be learning that there is no such thing as gender fluidity with Red Deer;… Read more »

Mogwai
3 years ago

Pretty epic piece by Spartacus, which quickly progresses into describing a very dystopian, horrific future that I wouldn’t want to live in, if the transhumanist psychopaths get their way, but who’s to say what the world will look like in 100 years from now, or even a couple of decades? They also go through all of the ways in which this plandemic could not possibly be a cock-up, and I agree about the whole lab leak thing. Is it even relevant at this moment in time? I’d say no it’s not. Arguing over the minutia of what has passed doesn’t serve us now. The world has moved on and nobody’s head will roll, just like they won’t for the toxic bioweapon jabs that were unleashed with the sole intention of doing us harm. ”In order for someone to believe that COVID-19 was an accident, they must also be willing to believe that the past three years of coverups, stonewalling, gaslighting, psychological abuse, propaganda, and mass torture campaigns conducted by our governments were the result of incompetence rather than willful malice. Come on. Who actually believes that, at this point? We don’t even need to know where the virus came from,… Read more »

James.M
James.M
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Thanks for the link to Spartacus. i read his first piece back when all this started. If his article doesn’t sum up the insanity of our times I don’t know what else will. I hope Toby reads it. He needs to get clear in his mind that we are not being subjected to this dystopia because of idiots like Hancock.

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Civil disobedience is definitely one of the tools in our arsenal although I feel they will do everything to turn peaceful protests into violent ones by employing agents provocateurs. They’ve done it before and they’ll do it again. Meanwhile at local level we can actually get face to face with the people – the councillors and mayors – who are enabling much of the infrastructure to be created and who seem to be completely unaware, stupid or just downright complicit and evil in this. The recent videos of the Thetford Community meeting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnJaymafZP0&t=409s arguing against their mayor and, more recently, a telegram post: t.me/wideawakemedia showing a confrontation in Canada with an Edmonton council official both asking for explanations of their 15 minute city plans, show the way. I am going to our local council on the 21st and I want to ask some difficult questions. Before going, it’s wise to have a look at their plans and then to question them about them. It also pays to have a good grounding in the climate change arguments – both for and against – so that you know how to push back, when they make their case. For instance, the idea that… Read more »

BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago

Civil disobedience can take the form of individual acts of pushback & utilising non-compliance with the digital route that is being pushed hard everywhere.
Woke up the owner of the local nursery today when I went to get some pots & seed trays. As a horticulturalist she saw straight away through the scam of CO2 as a baddie. She was pleased to be paid in cash too.
Like the track & trace postage stamps – buy on card, fully trackable. Buy on cash, only know where it was sent from. Little, easy & risk free acts of disobedience.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Spartacus told me nothing I did not know already and I dare say you are in the same place Mogs but hands up he has written one of the most lucid and eloquent pieces I have ever read describing our plight.

He is bang on the money but the vast majority of people would insist this is science fiction and sadly it is far from that. I am glad to see the reference and hat tip to Patrick Woods because he has long been on top of this game.

Many thanks for the post.👍

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Welcome hux.🤓 It’s crazy that there are people on this site, after all that’s transpired and evidence uncovered, who insist on none of this being pre-planned. Boggles my mind.🤯

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I wholeheartedly agree.

Dinger64
3 years ago

“Would so many have accepted the experimental vaccines so readily if they had known the the science on which they were constructed”

Remember when the words “genetically modified” brought a huge public outcry and disgust in the 70s and 80s?
Now we happily have gm shyte pumped into our arms with pride! Why?
Because we were LIED TOO! this poison is genetically modified!
Imagine if it had been called mDNA!
Wonder what the uptake would have been then?

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Dinger64

The sad, tragic reality is that anybody who got jabbed did so because they were duped. They were fooled into thinking there was an extra bad, novel threat and that existing drugs/therapeutics were of no use. People got jabbed because they were conned and that’s what the last 3 years has amounted to. That’s why so many cannot deal with the reality and have to tell themselves lies that they made an informed decision that was justified under the illusion of a threat. Too many are still living in the comfort of their own delusions. You can’t do much for people like that at this late stage I’m afraid. If they were going to be red-pilled they would have done so by now.

Occams Pangolin Pie
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Dear Governments Behavioural Psychologists SAGE MHRA NHS Hancock & Handlers WHO Fauci Farrar Ferguson Whitty Valance

Look them in the eyes and tell them you did all you could to stop the spread of panic and bare-faced lies.

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

What a surprise, HP! They don’t like it up ’em, as Corporal Jones would say.