In Defence of Lineker’s Tweet

There is only one historical event the study of which is compulsory under the National Curriculum – the Holocaust.

Not the Norman Conquest, not the Civil War, not the Industrial Revolution, but the Holocaust – which is part of European, not of British history.

If it is considered essential that all children study this episode of European history, then clearly the Holocaust must have very important lessons to teach us.

What lessons are these? The Holocaust Memorial Day Trust explains on its website that the Holocaust teaches us that “Genocide does not just take place on its own – it’s a steady process which can begin if discrimination, racism and hatred are not checked and prevented”.

Surely, we are being told here that we should learn from the Holocaust to call out cases of discrimination, racism and hatred to ensure that they do not lead to anything worse, as they did in Nazi Germany?

Which is exactly what Gary Lineker thought he was doing when he tweeted that the Government’s Illegal Migration Bill was “an immeasurably cruel policy directed at the most vulnerable people in language that is not dissimilar to that used by Germany in the 1930s”. One does not have to agree with Lineker’s assessment of Government policy to accept that he had the right to criticise it in the terms he did. (Whether the terms of Lineker’s relationship with the BBC permitted him to speak out on a controversial political issue, is another question altogether.)

One fundamental of Nazi policy was the scapegoating of marginalised groups, not only Jews but also gypsies, Slavs, homosexuals, Communists, even the disabled. It is perfectly reasonable to make a comparison here with the scapegoating of illegal migrants for some of the problems that beset Britain today. The analogy is far from perfect – the Jews being scapegoated by the Nazis were German nationals, not migrants – but the comparison is legitimate.

Home Secretary Suella Braverman responded to Lineker’s comments by saying that she found them offensive because her husband is Jewish and her children are directly descended from people who were murdered in gas chambers during the Holocaust. But Lineker did not compare the Government’s attitude to illegal immigration with the Holocaust. He compared the language of the Illegal Migrant Bill with the language used by the Nazis in 1930s Germany.

It is a common error to use the terms ‘Nazi Germany’ and ‘the Holocaust’ interchangeably. The discrimination and propaganda characteristic of Germany in the 1930s led to the Holocaust in the 1940s because they were not checked: this is what the Holocaust Memorial Day Trust has told us. If people make comparisons with Nazi Germany, it is because they want to prevent a recurrence of anything comparable to the Holocaust.

Karen Pollock, the chief executive of the Holocaust Educational Trust, wrote an article in the Times about Lineker’s comments in which she argued that it was wrong to compare any current concerns to what happened in Nazi Germany.

So what, then, is the purpose of the Holocaust Educational Trust? Its avowed aim is to educate people about the Holocaust. If we’re not permitted to identify the recurrence of attitudes characteristic of Nazi Germany to ensure the terrible crimes to which they led are not repeated, then what is the point of learning about the Holocaust?

Holocaust survivor and Polish historian Marian Turski, speaking at the 75th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz in January 2020, declared that “Auschwitz did not fall from the sky [but] crept up, with small steps”. It started, he said, with the banning of Jews from park benches and choirs and swimming pools. Those who witnessed the segregation of Jews in Germany in the 1930s did not know this would lead eventually to their extermination, he said.

I never imagined that I would in my life be defending Lineker. But play the ball, not the man.

Some of Lineker’s supporters, on the other hand, have made unjustified comparisons with Nazi Germany. For example, Alastair Campbell claimed on Twitter that the abolition of BBC Singers and cuts to BBC orchestras were “another resonance with 30s Germany – the assault on culture and the arts”. As if these cuts are comparable to the burning of books and the banning of Jewish composers and the suppression of ‘degenerate’ art.

Campbell also stated in an interview on LBC that he has a book coming out in a few months which will be looking specifically at the use of neo-Fascist and neo-Nazi language by right-wing politicians and newspapers. The examples he gave were “Drain the Swamp” (popularised by Donald Trump), which he says originated with Mussolini, and “Enemies of the People” (used by the Daily Mail to refer to judges obstructing Brexit) which he says comes from the notorious Nazi propaganda outlet Der Stürmer.

Let’s hope Campbell has better examples in his book. Mussolini and Der Stürmer did use the phrases in question, but they did not invent them. “Drain the Swamp” is a phrase specific to American politics that goes back well over a century, originating in the widespread belief that Washington DC was built on a swamp that had to be drained. The phrase has been used by Nancy Pelosi as well as by Trump. “Enemies of the People” dates from Ancient Rome, and most historians would associate it with the propaganda of the Soviet Union rather than Nazi Germany.

Commentators who’ve spoken out in support of Lineker have argued for his right to free speech. As has already been pointed out in the Daily Sceptic and elsewhere, it doesn’t constitute a defence of a person’s right to free speech to insist that he should be allowed to say something that you agree with. It is only a defence of free speech if you insist on someone being allowed to say something with which you disagree. Where were all these supposed free-speech advocates when J.K. Rowling was attacked? Or Maya Forstater? Or Salman Rushdie?

What has not yet been identified is the hypocrisy of the concern that self-styled ‘liberal’ commentators – including Lineker – appear to have developed for the issue of human rights, specifically the human rights of illegal migrants. For the past three years, they have shown no interest in the human rights of British citizens who were imprisoned in their homes, compelled to cover their faces with masks that impeded their breathing, required to submit themselves to invasive tests that constituted a bodily assault, and coerced into accepting an experimental medical intervention to keep their jobs or travel abroad or attend public events. The liberal Left was conspicuous in its absence from resistance to the human-rights abuses that occurred as a result of the Government’s response to the Covid pandemic.

Supposedly, in 2020-22 human rights were overridden because of a ‘public-health emergency’. Funny thing is, this was exactly the phrase the Nazis used to justify their discrimination against Jews. They said first that Jews had to be excluded from German society because they were carriers of disease, and later that they had to be confined in ghettos to prevent them from spreading typhus to the rest of the population.

It was specifically to publicise the comparison between the human-rights abuses of the British Government during the pandemic and the tyranny of Nazi Germany that I set up the campaign group Jews for Justice in the autumn of 2021, at a time when unvaccinated people in Britain were being stigmatised in a manner reminiscent of the ‘othering’ of Jews in Germany in the 1930s. I felt that as a group of Jews we were less likely than others to be shouted down for making this comparison.

It is contemptible that in 2023 ‘liberal’ commentators have suddenly rediscovered a concern for human rights yet appear to remain blithely ignorant of the repeated ethical, moral and legal violations of our Government during the period March 2020 to July 2021.

Andrew Barr has written books on wine and the history of drink, and is working on a history of scapegoating, provisionally entitled The Enemy Within. Jews for Justice does not yet have a website, but can be contacted at jewsforjustice@protonmail.com.

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transmissionofflame
3 years ago

“It is perfectly reasonable to make a comparison here with the scapegoating of illegal migrants for some of the problems that beset Britain today.”

Possibly, though often from what I’ve seen people are making direct reference to specific issues that are indeed connected to illegal migrants and also to the clash of cultures that mass immigration brings.

But does the government’s legislation “scapegoat illegal migrants for some of the problems that beset Britain today”? I’ve not read it.

Nicholas Britton
3 years ago

“One fundamental of Nazi policy was the scapegoating of marginalised groups, not only Jews but also gypsies, Slavs, homosexuals, Communists, even the disabled. It is perfectly reasonable to make a comparison here with the scapegoating of illegal migrants for some of the problems that beset Britain today”

How exactly are they being “scapegoated”. If I complain when someone illegally forces their way into my house am I scapegoating them? No I’m complaining about an activity that is causing obvious harm. Frankly, it would not make any difference who the intruder is, it would still be an illegal violation. As James Delingpole said, the Lineker story is a distraction. Whether that distraction is intentional or not, it is taking people’s minds off more serious matters. Can we discuss something that actually matters please?

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
3 years ago

Indeed. And I think that is partly why people are so pissed with all of this. It’s okay for him to call everyone who is not onboard with unfettered immigration a nazi, but the people he so callously defames and slags off do not have an opportunity to air their views. If they ever do, it is done in such a way that they either pick crackpots or make them look like crackpots. No genuine, realistic discussion of immigration is ever allowed, not just in the UK – it’s the same everywhere in the West. If he and others really gave a stuff about refugees, they’d actually care about the fact that many real refugees are left languishing in camps, while perfectly healthy, able-bodied men, some of whom are indeed criminals and terrorists (European law enforcement warned of this years ago) waltz on in. Some do indeed come to work and contribute to the economy, but plenty are happy to hold their hand out. Not because they are immigrants, but because they are human beings. It is human nature to grab what is freely offered and not give in return, but hold the government that encourages such behaviour to account,… Read more »

Corky Ringspot
3 years ago

It matters, and it’s not a distraction if one has any kind of power of concentration. I’m not distracted from more significant matters. Which isn’t the same as saying that this isn’t a significant matter. The fact that you’re not interested doesn’t mean that the matter is not suitable for airing here.

Corky Ringspot
3 years ago

And in addition to my previous reply, I have to say that Gary Lineker, whatever the justice or injustice of his comments, remains a see you next Tuesday. Sorry, he just does.

Smudger
3 years ago

Yes it is a distraction. How about focusing on how we can reduce the size of the state and thus the the source of much of the power base of the political Left Time is of the essence. We may go some way to achieving this by first focussing on destroying the fake Tory Party at the polls by joining, supporting and becoming activists of centre Right challenger parties and immediately engaging in knocking their heads together to combine as a single party in order to form a strong electoral force. There may not be another chance after 2024!

RW
RW
3 years ago

It’s always ‘refreshing’ to read another of these I really have no friggin’ clue about history but I insist in talking about it, anyway! opinion pieces. Auschwitz was never liberated, that was Bergen-Belsen. It was abandoned and blown-up when the Red Army drew close and the inmates were marched into the Reich (Why anyone would bother with this when they were all supposed to be killed, anyway, is one of the Questions Which Must Not Be Asked!!111). The Nazis didn’t believe Jews were carriers of disease, that’s a mangled, medieval belief, namely, that they had been causing the plague by intentionally poisoning wells, they believed there was a Jewish world conspiracy seeking world domination and to eradicate the Germanic people as natural enemies in the process. Lastly, the UK bill in questions targets people who have intentionally broken UK law by crossing the UK border illegally. That’s something very much different from targetting legally settled inhabitants because they belong to the wrong ethnicity (not that this wouldn’t be done in the UK as well, but that’s a different conversation). At very best, Lineker is a superficial and extremely tactless duckhead. More likely, he wants to preach to the choir in… Read more »

For a fist full of roubles

Yet another person who claims to understand what s going on in Lineker’s head (“which is exactly what he thought he was doing”).
In regard to what anybody says about Lineker and free speech, his actions on his Twitter account in banning people who contradict him shows he is far from a champion of free speech. In fact, in my opinion, it shows he is a bully.

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
3 years ago

This bleating on about poor little Gary is getting tiresome. He has not been hauled off in chains, or threatened with imprisonment based on a super-injunction that no one even knows about and that, in fact, opened up the possibility of being tried and incarcerated in secret. He was not kicked off any social media platform, no warnings are placed under his twitting, he is not being denied access to any venues, nor would he probably be denied any number of job opportunities. His freedom of speech is perfectly intact, he is merely facing the reality that every one of us faces every day – consequences for certain actions. And not much of a consequence, his contract and legal team seem to be doing just fine in protecting him. In this case, people seem to have a hard time understanding that it is not specifically Lineker’s reference to nazi germany that people find so irksome, but rather his unrelentless virtue signalling, his smug, holier-than-thou twittering on about things he knows little to nothing about and his obvious belief that he should enjoy priliveges that other employees should not. If thousands of viewers who pay for the BBC say they are… Read more »

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

This bleating on about poor little Gary is getting tiresome.

He has not been hauled off in chains…”

More’s the bloody pity.

Occams Pangolin Pie
3 years ago

If Lineker had demonstrated and declared common cause with the unvaccinated and stood up for their rights, and railed against the tyrannical denial of all manner of civil liberties during the late unpleasantness then I would have a tiny bit more time and sympathy for his position now about mainly economic migrants displacing self-funded guests in hotels in Skegness.

Immigration policy is so clearly not the main arena in which latter-day fascist stirrings can be felt. It’s a ‘look over there’ from Lineker. And he knows it.

JayBee
3 years ago

Most of such comparisons made by people are about giving such early warnings.
But the by now reflexive and hysterical protest after any of them are made is always about their relativisation of the Holocaust or to the events and Nazism leading to it.
In sofar, such criticism of Lineker’s comment is also completely justified, if you subscribe to that by now prevalent if not mandatory IHRA&co school of thought and attack.
Far, far more justified for sure than the accusations made recently against Andrew Bridgen, notably by a certain Mr. Hancock and most shamefully even by a reigning British PM in parliament.
Mr. Bridgen’s comment was actually grammatically and spiritually most clearly and most definetely not such a relativisation, as many Jewish defenders of his confirmed.
So, where was your and those others who spoke out for GL’s defense of AB then?

YouDontSay
3 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Yes, Andrew Bridgen was allegedly deeply offensive, but GL was not? “It’s OK when we do it”, I guess.

DomH75
3 years ago

Lineker can say what he wants, but he works for an unusual company that is funded by public coercion, which requires him to be more circumspect. The BBC doesn’t even need privatisation: it simply needs its funding switching to subscription and all this goes away, becoming an issue for Ofcom.

Smudger
3 years ago
Reply to  DomH75

No establishment party will ever privatise the BBC. The Tories will talk of ending the licence fee if they think it will buy some votes from credulous voters.
It is up to those who find the BBCs bias and Leftist agenda unacceptable (as I do) then not paying the licence fee is the only thing to do,

Matt Mounsey
Matt Mounsey
3 years ago

In a couple of decades the native British are going to be an absolute minority in their own country. They’re already not allowed to refer to it as their country.

When that happens, how long do you think it will be before the new arrivals annex Britain as part of the new global Caliphate and start chopping off heads, taking sex slaves from the dhimmis and mutilating kids genitals (although we’re already doing that pretty well ourselves)?

At that stage I think we might want to reconsider whether a bit of good old fashioned National Socialism would have been in our best interests. At the very least we would probably ask why we didn’t kick the invaders out when we had the chance.

Smudger
3 years ago
Reply to  Matt Mounsey

This has been as clear as crystal for at least 25 years. Nobody in Britain who votes for establishment parties has anyone to blame but themselves for the travails that lie ahead for low to middle income white Britons. Every vote they cast for establishment parties has brought the future of white minority Britain one day closer.

TonyRS
TonyRS
3 years ago

Some simple facts to consider… The migrants crossing the Channel in small boats are breaking our laws. The vast majority are not fleeing persecution, but are economic migrants trying to enter our economy without qualifying for a visa. The migrants destroy their documents to make it almost impossible to verify their identity, their nationality, or their claims of persecution – why make it harder if their claim is genuine? The population of this country struggles to get GP appointments and dental care, while the illegal migrants get these services laid on for them at our expense. Around 3/4 of those intercepted and landed on our shores are men aged between 18-40 – how come persecution only seems to affect that demographic and what of the women and children they leave behind? Lineker is entitled to spout his guff to the world. But most of his claims are false and are politically driven. He seems content for UK taxpayers to spend £7m a week coping with this influx just because some other countries have done. But he doesn’t mention the far lower rate of claims being approved in those other countries or their repatriation activities to send false claimants home. I… Read more »

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  TonyRS

And Lineker believes he is quite in order to refuse to pay his tax bill. Given that this horrible excuse for a human being has been employed – not sub-contracted – by the BBC for over thirty years I confidently ascert that his real tax bill will be enormously greater than the paltry five mill he is disputing.

I wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire.

Dinger64
3 years ago

What he said doesn’t bother me, its the implication that if you disagree with the migrant situation your right wing and fascist! and I hate being tarred with that disgusting brush just because of having a different opinion on a subject

Boomer Bloke
3 years ago

I got as far as this in th 7th paragraph and stopped reading “One fundamental of Nazi policy was the scapegoating of marginalised groups, not only Jews but also gypsies, Slavs, homosexuals, Communists”. The only group being scapegoated in the UK are the indigenous white population. You can be arrested for standing silently outside an abortion centre, threatened with violence by Muslim clerics if you have children who behave like children, be arrested by the police for trying to rescue your daughter from being systematically abused and pimped out predominantly Pakistani men. Meanwhile multi millionaire Lineker sits in his safe, secure, gated and patrolled ivory tower and tells his extensive Twitter following that they are racist bigots equivalent to Nazis if they don’t agree with his position on just about everything, while drawing his obscene taxpayer funded salary and breaking the terms of his contract with the state owned broadcaster, which extracts its funding by coercion and browbeating on the threat of jail time for non compliance.

JXB
JXB
3 years ago

“It is perfectly reasonable to make a comparison here with the scapegoating of illegal migrants for some of the problems that beset Britain today.” No it isn’t! All resources are scarce. Immigrants of whatever origin in whatever destination, congregate, like the British in ‘Dordogneshire’ in France. The Jews post-1918 escaping Bolshevism, then Hitler were poor and congregated in the East End of London, now the centre for Bangladeshis. Poor immigrants congregate in poorer areas for obvious reasons. The more incomers into an area increases competition for those scarce resources: accommodation, schooling, medical care, social services, jobs among others. They do not occupy the places that pro-immigration buffoons live, so they suffer no cost of immigration, it’s the poor who suffer for whom the likes of Gary Lineker care nothing, as long as their virtue is visible and their rich lifestyle is not interrupted. The people who suffer most as a result of an influx of new immigrants, are the previous ones. The immigrants flooding into Britain are uneducated, impoverished, unskilled and incapable of finding decent jobs or any jobs in an advanced industrialised economy with high standards of living and the concomitant high cost of living compared to the origins… Read more »

Nicholas Britton
3 years ago
Reply to  JXB

Well said

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  JXB

Excellent post.

Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  JXB

Ireland is the cul-de-sac, not Great Britain.

What if the money we’ve spent on housing the barbarian invaders had instead been spent on shipping them to the ROI through NI?

Boomer Bloke
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

Sadly Ireland is not a cul de sac. The ‘border’ is porous, essentially non existent. Because the EU says so. As Ireland fills up, as it has been and is doing, the r@p€ j1h@d1$t$ will funnel back across the ‘border’ into the U.K. Its a pincer movement. Almost as if the EU had planned it that way.

Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

Why would barbarian invaders in the ROI want to cross back into the UK?

Boomer Bloke
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

Because they get more freebies, their friends and family are in London or other large cities, the connections back to their home countries are better, there are more white girls available to abuse, shall I go on?

Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

But barbarian invaders in the ROI aren’t leaving, for the UK,are they?

Otherwise the ROI wouldn’t be darker than the UK.

Boomer Bloke
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian
  1. How do you know? Have you seen London, or Birmingham, or Nottingham or Leicester or Bradford or the inside of any Holiday Inn or Best Western recently?
  2. They can travel to the U.K. any time they like, there is no border
  3. The ROI is tiny and filling up very quickly
RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  JXB

A good statement, but I think it’s missing the point. The Lineker-tweet was not about anyone being scapegoated for anything but about some proposed changes in the handling of people who illegally crossed the UK border (or who are trying to cross the UK border illegally). That is, about the handling of people who knowingly violated UK law. They’re not being targetted – as Linkerer wrongly alleged – because of who they are but because of what they’ve done.

One can conjecture that Lineker disagrees with UK border law and he’s absolutely entitled to that. Hence, he’s invited to work towards getting it changed into something he likes better. But until then, law is law and people intentionally violating the law are criminals, regardless of what Lineker believes about the laws which were violated.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago

the human-rights abuses of the British Government during the pandemic”

It does not help our cause one iota to continually default to the language of the enemy.

There has been NO PANDEMIC.

NeilParkin
3 years ago

The real ‘crime’ of Lineker is that after the two day stand off with the BBC, not one person was allowed to give the opposite view, that expressing concern at illegal immigration is the act of a good citizen, not some kind of fascist bigot. Unfortunately too many on the left and the media have taken the BBC’s capuitulation to mean that Linekers opinion is the correct moral and virtuous one, and not just that he should be permitted to say what he chooses.

Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago

So if you can compare stopping illegal immigration to the Nazis, you might as well compare stopping burglaries to the Nazis

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3 years ago

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago

I used to believe the broad narrative about the “Holocaust”, even though I heard nothing about it growing up in the 60s and 70s.

But now we know the authorities lie all the time, why should we believe it?

Sontol
Sontol
3 years ago

Excellent piece exposing the ideological and moral fault-lines and hypocrisies both of aspects of mainstream political thinking, and some of the trends on the Daily Sceptic itself. Self-evidently Gary Lineker should be able to state his beliefs in any forum he chooses, as should all other BBC employees / contractors – just put a ‘This is purely a personal view rather than that of the BBC’ disclaimer in any relevant posting. With that proviso, and in response to Mr Lineker’s entirely permissible, well intended, but at least partially ignorant statements: without going into details of the Government’s immigration proposals (which I am not directly defending) it is perfectly reasonable to seek to restrict the spreading and extension of genuinely neo-fascist belief systems such as male supremacism / female subjugation, the denigration of non-believers as sub-human ‘kaffirs’ etc. Or of mafia-type eastern-European gangs. Furthermore Gary Linker has implicitly put himself forward as a vehement anti-Nazi campaigner – but also as a staunch proponent of Net Zero and environmentalism in general. The reality is that the Hitler regime was the Greenest in history. It maintained a very powerful Department of Organic Agriculture, and the entire ‘Lebensraum’ (Living Space) foreign policy which led… Read more »

transmissionofflame
3 years ago
Reply to  Sontol

You seem to be confusing defending Lineker’s right to speak his mind (which I and many others recognise, though opinions vary here as to whether the BBC should have sanctioned him or not) with the main substance of this article which was defending what he said rather than his right to say it.

Sontol
Sontol
3 years ago

I totally agree with Gary Lineker that some of the language revolving around the Government’s immigration bill has extreme sectarian connotations, but disagree with his implied position that there are no problems to address.

I also called attention to the irony of vehement Net Zero proponents attempting to make anti Third Reich points given the strong crossover between Green and Nazi ideologies and practices.

Further to all the above I wanted to express my opposition to the ongoing attempt to take advantage of an explicitly liberal / tolerant platform (the Daily Sceptic) for precise opposite ultra-nationalist and neo-fascist purposes.

Ones which certainly do not promote freedom of speech; indeed don’t promote universal freedom to live.

transmissionofflame
3 years ago
Reply to  Sontol

Can you give examples of this language?

Can you give examples from this site of neo-fascist and ultra-nationalist language and opinions? What exactly do you mean by those terms? I want England’s ethnic composition to remain as it is – does that make me a Nazi or ultra nationalist or neo fascist? If so then most of the current and past population of this planet are too.

RW
RW
3 years ago

Not even Lineker himself can do that. His statement was (available via The Sun):

This is just an immeasurably cruel policy directed at the most vulnerable people in language that is not dissimilar to that used by Germany in the ’30s, and I’m out of order?

What that’s supposed to mean is anybody’s guess. My guess would be Nothing, ie, he’s just trolling by using meaningless word juxtapositions known to annoy people. One can infer a meaning here, namely,

This is a Tory policy, I’m a Labour voter and I’m opposed to it!

Unfortunately, Lineker can’t quite get grip on what precisely he’s opposed to and why, but opposed he is. The details can be worked out later or by someone else.

Sontol
Sontol
3 years ago

I disagree with the very concept of ethnicity or any other artificial human sectarian divides (see also race, nationhood etc). However it is perfectly possible to uphold and put forward these ideas and any resultant agendas in a reasonable way and within a tolerant democratic framework.

What I was alluding to was an apparent increase in ultra-extreme, anti-democratic and pro-hatred and violence postings along the lines I outlined above:

‘Recent events have shown that multi-party liberal democracy is a complete sham and smokescreen for the real power centre, a shadowy cosmopolitan greedy and power-crazed elite who are using vaccines, lockdowns, Net Zero, mass immigration and other techniques to both mass murder and subjugate our decent indigenous people. A violent uprising to overthrow this evil group and their political puppets is the only solution; get the pitchforks and gallows prepared’.

All of this adds up to classic neo-fascism / neo-Nazism.

There is no need for me to provide quotes illustrating this general agenda as it is all over the Daily Sceptic comments section, plus I don’t believe in citing third parties without addressing them directly.

lojolondon
lojolondon
3 years ago

Note the Establishment Elite this March :

Andrew Bridgen exiled for invoking the holocaust.
Gary Lineker worshipped for invoking Nazis.

Bonkers, isn’t it?

Epi
Epi
3 years ago

Where were all these supposed free-speech advocates when J.K. Rowling was attacked? Or Maya Forstater? Or Salman Rushdie?”

Or Andrew Bridgen who gets banned from the party supposedly defending the right to free speech. Hypocrites the lot of them.

varmint
3 years ago

All opinions in a free country are welcomed, otherwise we are not living in a free country. The irony is though that the BBC doesn’t allow free speech. It always wants to control the narrative. It has a world view all to the progressive left, and it refuses to allow any discussion or questions to be asked on eg the issue of climate change. But if something is all about science as claimed then it must be questioned all of the time otherwise it isn’t science. Or as someone once pointed out “Scepticism is the highest calling and blind faith the one unpardonable sin”.———– By deciding the issue of climate is already decided and no further discussion can be had, what the BBC are really doing is indulging in politics not science. They are simply confirming that climate change is not about science at all and is entirely political.

Peter W
Peter W
3 years ago

I don’t remember Lineker complaining about the unvaccinated being segregated and treated as pariahs for political reasons.

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago

Lineker is a bear of very little brain, who belives his numbers of followers on Twatter means his utterances have value. All he has is a total lack of self awareness to go with his ignorance. He’s a legend in his own lunchtime, no more.

Rachel Taylor
Rachel Taylor
3 years ago

The Lineker debacle shows one thing and one thing only: the wild, hysterical, witterings of the guardians against people they disagree with. Remember, Lineker was criticising the language, language used by people. He was specifically and overtly accusing the people who oppose this illegal immigration of behaving like Nazi’s. So what do we do with Nazi’s? We shut them up, we jail them, we take their children away. If that isn’t demonising people who disagree with you, what is??

Rachel Taylor
Rachel Taylor
3 years ago

Why are comments “Awaiting for approval”? I can “wait for” or I can “await” but I cannot “await for”.