Greta Thunberg Protests AGAINST Wind Farms
In one of those stories that requires a double-take, Greta Thunberg has been taking part in a five-day protest blocking the entrance to Norway’s energy ministry to protest against wind turbines. The Telegraph has more.
Ms. Thunberg was specifically demonstrating against wind turbines built on land traditionally used by indigenous Sami reindeer herders.
“Indigenous rights, human rights, must go hand-in-hand with climate protection and climate action. That can’t happen at the expense of some people. Then it is not climate justice,” she said while sitting outside the ministry’s main entrance with other demonstrators.
Norway’s supreme court in 2021 ruled that two wind farms built in central Norway violated Sami rights under international conventions, but the turbines remain in operation more than 16 months later.
Reindeer herders in the Nordic country say the sight and sound of the giant wind power machinery frighten their animals and disrupt age-old traditions.
Ms. Thunberg and a dozen other Sami demonstrators have occupied the ministry’s reception area since Thursday. Police forcibly removed them at around 1.30am on Monday and detained them before releasing them.
They returned to the ministry at around 6am.
What kind of a climate emergency is it if trifling things like the distress of reindeer are more important? And if reindeer mental health can trump Net Zero policies – because climate action “can’t happen at the expense of some people” – then why not also, I don’t know, the needs and aspirations of billions of people in developing countries?
I think perhaps she hasn’t fully thought this through.
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“I think perhaps she hasn’t fully thought this through.”
I think she has if her aim (consciously or not) is the destruction of advanced civilisation. Hasn’t she more or less said that’s what she wants?
She should go and live in the poorest country in the world, which by coincidence is probably the country that consumes least energy, or go and live with the Amish, though I don’t think they’d have her.
Greta Thunberg throws in her lot with the anti-capitalist Left – The Post (unherd.com)
There is no “back to normal”, she told us. “Normal” was the “system” which gave us the climate crisis, a system of “colonialism, imperialism, oppression, genocide”, of “racist, oppressive extractionism”. Climate justice is part of all justice; you can’t have one without the others. We can’t trust the elites produced by this system to confront its flaws — that’s why she, much like Rishi Sunak, won’t be bothering with the COP meeting this year. COP itself is little more than a “scam” which facilitates “greenwashing, lying and cheating”. Only overthrow of “the whole capitalist system” will suffice.
Speaking of the Amish, is there any good data on all-cause mortality among the Anish from, say, 2019 through to 2022? There seem to be plenty of articles from 2021 [ointing to a rise in mortality, citing a study by the University of West Virginia but it would be interesting to know, for example, if they are currently experiencing the high levels of excess mortality currently seen in many places (but npt Bulgaria).
After some Googling, I saw that all of the articles about the Amish are from 2021 and only look at 2020 data. While the Amish (and Mennonities) did indeed have excess deaths, their excess death rate was not significantly different than the rest of the USA on average. So they didn’t do any worse than the rest of the USA at least. Much like how Sweden, Belarus, Nicaragua, Tanzania, Faeroe Islands Uruguay, and even Brazil did within error bounds of their much stricter neighbors. Ditto for South Dakota and the other 11 states that eschewed lockdowns. And Sweden did better than the European average overall.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34117598/
EDIT: I did find some data from 2021. In the autumn of 2021, there was another, smaller death spike it seems.
https://plainanabaptistjournal.org/index.php/JPAC/article/view/9101
I could not find data from 2022. I would hazard a guess that they most likely had normal or below normal deaths in that year.
That can’t happen at the expense of some people.
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I think perhaps she hasn’t fully thought this through.
Why this? It can’t happen at the expense of people the Gretnas of this world consider cool, namely, somewhat exotic and a bit primitive and living in mysterious remote locations. It’s perfectly fine when this destroy the traditional way of life of the farmers in the rural area of Germany I was born in which has been plastered over with windmills to an atrocious degree, even cutting down large areas of mostly wild mountain forests there. Gretna doesn’t like such people. They’re too … commonplace for her refined tastes.
How on God’s earth did this person become so MSM newsworthy?
Maybe it’s because she’s a cherished member of the Rothschild famiglia? But that is stated to be false news – or is it.
Looney Tuneberg says whatever her commie handlers tell her to say. As has been evidenced when she is asked questions, she hasn’t got an original idea in her empty head. She’s a vessel for extremist ideology being used to target children. Shortly, she’s going to be dumped for another mentally ill high school dropout because she’s too old.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who has spotted she’s a puppet. It’s funny how she went silent during the plandemic, she wasn’t part of the plan. Bojo was a puppet as well, just not an obedient one.
The Gretna was reportedly once diagnosed with autism but I have serious troubles believing in that (being an autist myself) — no autist would ever be willing to endure (or capable of enduring it) this constant, high-volume public spectacle. She looks like someone with a relatively mild case of down syndrome, ie, with a so-called learning disability, and she has always been a puppet. In principles, she deserves some sympathy, because this is also a form of child abuse (and the people pulling her strings deserve something I’m not going to put into words here).
Same. I suspect one of the reasons I didn’t get programmed by the nudge unit during lockdown is that my brain works slightly differently from the average person, which has some advantages and many disadvantages. I agree with the Down Syndrome assessment. I can’t handle being in places with large numbers of people. I used to chug down large numbers of beers to cope with crowds. Since I quit drinking, going to busy places has become impossible.
So no way is Greta autistic, unless they’re dosing her up with drugs before these speeches. The thing that is rarely referred to is that after Greta’s snarling ‘How DARE you?!’ speech, she sat on a panel of young people and when she was asked a question about her speech, she palmed off the question to another panellist. It was clear she had no grasp of the subject. She’s an overgrown child and a front for bad people.
I know the beer story all-to-well and I’ve seriously overdone that in earlier times for pretty much the same reason.
Here’s another I feel like telling: I once almost went to a football match with a (then) friend of mine. I stepped through the stadium entrance, had a look around at these ranks and ranks and ranks of people and – without even thinking about that – immediately turned around, stepped out again and gave my ticket to the first person outside willing to take it. I then spent the 90-and-something minutes in front of the building mostly alone. That was a much nicer experience.
I can completely relate. In busy places, it took three pints of beer just to start out an evenings normal. I went to a big Bistrot Pierre restaurant with my family for my Dad’s birthday lunch. I had to step out, because the noise was driving me insane. The sound of LED light bulbs buzzing also drives me nuts and I swear I’ve had more migraines since the move to LEDs!! 😀
But yes, crowds of people are just unmanageable! How I survived 12 years of rail travel in London amazes me: I used to stand, crushed up, in tube trains at rush hour battling constant panic attacks. Sometimes I’d have to get off the train, even if it delayed me!
Everyone seems to have rights except for us ordinary plebs who have to pay for it all.
I wonder if it was illegally built in a privileged white suburb if she would be quite as vocal? No, she would tell them to suck it up, its the price you must pay for a better world for all, sacrifices have to be made,.
just goes to show how young idealogs haven’t yet learned that life and politics have no easy answers!
Let’s not get conned into defending wind turbines. They’re utter crap. If the U.K.’s energy needs were provided by wind power alone it would take 360,000 wind turbines at a cost of £3.4 TRILLION pounds or £48,000 for every man, woman and child in the UK.
That price would recur every 10-25 years (maintenance and replacement costs). That price would not include the necessary conversion infrastructure to convert electricity to hydrogen and it would not include retrofitting of all of the U.K.’s transport (motor vehicles, trains, planes and ships) to hydrogen use. It would also not include retrofitting all UK homes to electric heating/hot water and would also not include construction of hydrogen power plants.
It was never about any specific energy generation technology. It was ALWAYS about ensuring dependency on the big energy cartels. Just Stop Oil is not about stopping oil everywhere, it’s about stopping oil in the UK (it says so on their website). Once the mainstay of British energy, coal mines are now taboo even to talk about. Fracking and nuclear power are always accompanied by all-manner of fear-mongering. There’s never any shortage of people to disparage renewable energy under dubious pretexts. The result is perpetuation of the status quo of dependency on the big oil cartels whilst Naftogaz and Gazprom fight it out in the Ukraine over who’s going to dominate Europe’s gas supply. Let people dig coal, frack for shale gas, put up wind-turbines and solar panels on their rooves, grow some trees or rape-seed oil for use as bio-fuels. Each technology has its own pros and cons; none is optimal in all circumstance. The Town and Country Planning Regulations already provide well-established mechanisms for managing the environmental impact. The notion of pitting one energy technology against another, where everyone picks their favourite in a great public punch-up, is nothing more than a puerile attachment to Marxist central planning… Read more »
We have officially reached “Peak Greta”, though she really jumped the shark long ago.
The campaigners are probably already looking to cast their next ‘idiot savant/servant!’ Greta’s getting too old and too erratic.
Can’t we just ignore this silly little Marxist?
She’s not a Marxist: she’s a useful idiot.
So Reindeer Herders are simply another bunch of NIMBY’s then? We cannot possibly be scaring Reindeers now can we? Surely we can save the planet and just scare weasels or badgers or some other species that doesn’t kick up such a fuss. The truth is though that fossil fuels provide 90% of the worlds energy and that renewables are about 1%, and is just ideological farting against the wind. You cannot run industrial society on wind, and even reindeers can tell you that.
One of the worst things that can happen to an activist is their aim is successful as it deprives these losers of a purpose in life and something to gob-off about.
Ironically they often end up opposing the things they campaigned for.
In times past ‘activists’ and future-seers were sent either to a lunatic asylum or a nunnery. Time we brought that back.
You mean like Greenpeace? Once officialdom stars to agree with them they have to find more and more extreme things to moan about to remain relevant . Ex member Patrick Moore left them when they wanted to “Ban Chlorine”. ——He said “Look guys is it really in our remit to go banning a whole element”?
Ah, the idiot child thooooooooooonberg