The Crucifixion of Kate Forbes

Kathleen Stock has written a fascinating piece for UnHerd about the recent attacks on Kate Forbes. Here’s an excerpt:

Lent began this week with a rehearsal for a crucifixion. On Tuesday, SNP leader hopeful and devout Presbyterian Kate Forbes was faced with something she must have known was coming: a challenge from journalists about her views on gay marriage, womanhood, and children being born out of wedlock. She did not flinch from spelling out what she thought. By Ash Wednesday, several of her backers within the SNP had publicly recanted, running scared from the ensuing furore, and Forbes was said to be taking “a break from media commitments”.

Accompanying Forbes’s profession of faith was an apparently sincere endorsement of existing equality law, reiterated on Twitter since. But this complication has been widely ignored in the denunciations that followed. Perhaps unaccustomed to the sight of a principled act of conscience from a Scottish politician, our modern-day Pharisees — otherwise known as newspaper columnists — swung into action to make sure it would not happen again.

As is their wont, several commentators pretended to be taking the room’s temperature while actually turning up the thermostat. In the Times, Alice Thomson warned that if Forbes “can’t step back from the pulpit, she’s in danger of becoming as polarising as Sturgeon”.

Another Times correspondent declared that Forbes was now “fighting for her political career, not just the leadership” — as if there were no room in serious politics at all for someone with Forbes’s views.

The Guardian was yet more forthright. “Pass the idiot pills!” hooted John Crace, punning that the politician was on “a mission” (geddit) “to torpedo her own career”. Over in the New Statesman, progressive clergyman Michael Coren blathered that Forbes shouldn’t “receive a free pass” on her views “because they’re allegedly a product of her faith” — the “allegedly” vaguely implying that her membership of the Free Church of Scotland could be a front for something even worse.

It is common now for Christians in political life to downplay the impact their private beliefs have in their public role. Jacob Rees-Mogg pointed out his views on abortion wouldn’t have any impact on policy, and Kate Forbes has made a similar point about same-sex marriage. Stock, however, makes the argument that such beliefs do have an impact on policy, but that this is welcome in Forbes’s case, given her clear views on the dangerous excesses of the trans rights movement.

Forbes has found her defenders, too: most notably, Kemi Badenoch, who referred to her duty as Equalities Minister to protect religious freedom, arguing that Forbes should be allowed to have “freedom of conscience”.  As strategic as this defence from Badenoch is, though, I don’t think it quite works. Individual citizens of course have the right to freedom of conscience — including Forbes, who should be able to think and say whatever she likes within reason. The more pertinent question, though, is whether the religious or philosophical beliefs of a politician are relevant to their suitability for office, and especially when the office in question is leader.

Generally speaking, I don’t see why they aren’t — quite the contrary. The farming industry might reasonably be concerned if a vegan became Secretary of State at Defra. The Equality Act protects the philosophical beliefs of spiritualist psychics, but if a would-be prime minister claimed he could see into the future, voters might worry. And in both cases, the assurance that the beliefs in question were “personal” wouldn’t be much consolation — after all, they are still beliefs, involving a distinctive way of looking at the world that by definition can’t be switched off at will. Where a person appears to be able to leave his personal beliefs at home — as Forbes’ rival Humza Yousaf implies he can with Islam — then arguably, he doesn’t have very strong beliefs in the first place.

Equally, sometimes the personal beliefs of a politician can make them look a lot more attractive to voters. Speaking for myself, I think it’s a promising sign that Forbes is willing to say that the rapist Isla Bryson is a man. It makes her look a whole lot saner in that respect than many of her SNP colleagues. But if that’s the case, it can hardly be a problem in itself that, for others, the very same belief makes her seem like a liability. If legislation in a particular area is still a live question and stands a chance of being influenced by the views of a party leader — as is certainly the case for gender reform law in Scotland — then it’s reasonable to place any would-be leader’s background religious or philosophical beliefs about it under the microscope.

While Stock believes Forbes’s beliefs should be taken into account, she finds the attacks to be largely disingenuous woke posturing:

What we have here is a clash of two religions. One of them is full of sanctimonious, swivel-eyed moral scolds, rooting out heresy and trying to indoctrinate everybody into their fantastic way of thinking. The other is a branch of Calvinism. One of them asks “what would Jesus do?” and the other “what would Owen Jones think?”. Faced with a choice between their representatives on earth, I know which kind I would prefer to see in high office.

Worth reading in full.

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Dinger64
3 years ago

The leader of the SNP will be chosen by the SNP, not the Scottish people.
If the leader of SNP were to be chosen by the Scottish people, who do you think they would pick? So the SNP will chose the opposite to represent their people, they have no choice, they are tied to agenda not duty to the poeple! Humza Yousaf, a renowned scottsman! a bit like Leo Varadkar a renowned Irish man!! You will have what you get, not what you want!

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Once Yousaf is installed the pressure will be on in Wales.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago

Wouldn’t it be a treat if just this once somebody in politics stood up and said, “these are my long held beliefs, they inform my approach to life and politics and are non-negotiable?” Just this once. A fantasy I know but we have to have hope.

Dinger64
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Here f,ing here!👏

wilsonnl
wilsonnl
3 years ago

As an SNP member and atheist, I fully support Forbes’ views on male access to female toilets, and on her freedom of speech and mine. I will vote for her for SNP leader.

Dinger64
3 years ago
Reply to  wilsonnl

You are a voice of faith, common sense and reality, if only all people worked off the same principles instead of inventing their own!

varmint
3 years ago
Reply to  wilsonnl

There is no need to declare your an “atheist”. ——-We don’t need a word for someone who does not subscribe to something. We don’t have a word for people who don’t support Hamilton Academical do we?

Jonathan M
Jonathan M
3 years ago
Reply to  varmint

We don’t have a word for people who don’t support Hamilton Academical do we?

How about “sensible”?

varmint
3 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan M

Yes Funny

Gefion
Gefion
3 years ago
Reply to  wilsonnl

I’m very glad to hear that and certainly hope you are in the majority.

stewart
3 years ago

Her faith is only an issue if we accept that the state invade every corner of our lives.

If the state were to stick to protecting the country from invasion, keeping law and order and little else, the religious beliefs of whoever was in charge of that very narrow remit wouldn’t matter at all.

Those who find this lady’s beliefs objectionable reveal exactly what they seek: to force everyone to live the life they think is best for you.

Dinger64
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I wish I could give you a dozen upticks!😂

jsampson45
jsampson45
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

A Calvinist faith includes understanding that the state is not God.

Arum
Arum
3 years ago
Reply to  jsampson45

I live in a country with a state religion, unelected representatives of which sit in the upper legislative house. That state religion is Christian, so presumably politicians here are free to espouse traditional Christian beliefs.

Dinger64
3 years ago

I’m sure Kate would agree with Voltaire:

“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it” 

varmint
3 years ago

So Yousaf is apparently a Muslim, and Muslims if anything, are even more conservative in their beliefs than many Christians are. The only difference I can see between Forbes and Yousaf is that Forbes seems to have declared her views, whereas Yousaf maybe has not. So you can be religious if you like as a politician as long as you keep your trap shut. The minute you open your trap you will not be acceptable as a politician.

varmint
3 years ago
Reply to  varmint

Yes or as someone said a few years ago —–“We are all socialists now”

Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago

“Kemi Badenoch, who referred to her duty as Equalities Minister …”

Stop right there. Yet another non job held by a fake Conservative who supports lockdowns, Net Zero, jabs, forced jabs, the jabbing of children, whomust be fully away how devastating the jabs have been, and has supported the destruction our country.

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stewart
3 years ago

This country had a Jewish prime minister 150 years ago, at a time when Jewish people were badly discriminated against and certainly barred from public office in much of the world.

How much further do we want to sink? How much more of our tradition of freedom and tolerance do we want to destroy?

Covid-1984
Covid-1984
3 years ago

Jesus spoke at length about times like these. Make NO mistake; God will prevail.