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Mogwai
3 years ago

Five articles about Clarkson, all supportive?🤦‍♀️ The DS team are quite the fan club obviously. Personal opinions aside, a little more diversity in the round-up would be appreciated, but perhaps this signals a fundamental change is taking place. Maybe moaning about all things Covid gets a bit samey after three years of it…dunno. Time to shift our sights and do battle with the wokedemic instead? I’ll take a raincheck.

transmissionofflame
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Woke, freedom of speech and covid are related, as is climate scam. At least I think they are and so does DS – they made this case when they renamed the site and it still stacks up, IMO. Covid was made possible by a load of other unfortunate trends and tendencies – it didn’t happen in isolation.

As for Clarkson, I don’t know much about him but are the articles “supportive” or him or of the right to offend. I don’t know as I don’t have time to read them. I think H&M are annoying people and Clarkson was probably expressing a common sentiment, albeit in a somewhat vulgar manner – but isn’t it obvious he wasn’t serious? I mean I wouldn’t have said what he said, but it doesn’t seem that important to me one way or another – but then neither do H&M.

Mogwai
3 years ago

How on earth is saying you hate someone “obvious” as a joke? Or saying they should be pelted with crap? You’ve got a weird sense of humour if that’s your idea of kidding. So no, not obvious to me at all actually.

TheGreenAcres
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

You are not a fan of Clarkson, that’s fine. But as a fellow sceptic who has experienced what abuse towards those with dissenting opinions feels like, should you not be more tolerant to others instead of resorting to ad-hominem?

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

What “ad-hominem”?
Oh, you mean “tolerant” as in when everyone piles on me for highlighting the fact that online abuse should never be tolerated, even if you are rich and famous? And i think it’s pretty evident by now that I’m in the minority by having such views.
Free Speech = being as rude as you want to others and to hell with their feelings because you aren’t allowed any if you’re the target. The new norm. Got it.👍

TheGreenAcres
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

You are entitled to your views but you appear to be very intolerant towards other posters whose views you disagree with. Did you really need to write “You’ve got a weird sense of humour if that’s your idea of kidding”, how do you think it feels being on the receiving end of that, simply for having a different opinion on something subjective like what people find humorous?

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

OMFG! And you’re all bent out of shape by that?? Which is exactly how I’d speak to somebody in real life. Isn’t it just as well you weren’t at the receiving end of a Clarkson-type comment then? I think your head would spontaneously combust with ad-hominen overload!😂

Freddy Boy
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Clarkson has really got to you Mogs.my old chum ! Take a breath as it’s clouding your usual clever input ! Jezza made a GOThrones based joke about a certain person who is so full of human kindness she has disowned her ailing father & I think Ginger nuts has never even met him or taken the kids to see him , lovely couple !

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

I’m stuck in a hospital-type facility with kiddo as she’s here for 24hr monitoring so being cooped up in one room has got me a bit stir-crazy tbh!😖 We leave at midday and fresh air has never looked so appealing.😃 Slow Internet as we’re in the woods so I’ll be back at some point with my usual offerings. Can’t complain though as we’d never get this on the NHS.
Yes I’ll stop taking the Clarkson bait. I’ve not had my sufficient sleep quota so I’d best draw a line under it now. 😳🥴

Freddy Boy
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Ok I’m back , in a drafty Ramada hotel in Oldbury ! I hope all has gone well at the hospital, no wonder you were off kilter !

Hester
Hester
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Free speech means just that, the freedom to say what you like to speak your mind. Some people say really horrible and cruel things, and that says more about their character, and its usually a signal for others to ignore or to challenge through speech that persons views. Everyone is entitled to their views, and not everyone agrees with everyone else’s views, and that is where debate can take place. Unfortunately there are a number of people who are so fragile and unsure of the strength of their views that to challenge is seen as a threat and the response in these times is to shut that person down, and try to destroy them. Usually the result of the mob destruction results in real harm more so than the upset the individual who made the initial statement. The old saying sticks and stones rings very true. If there is no free speech then there is only compelled speech dictated by others such as Governments, the tech companies etc, in other words people with vested interests to control others and to shut down dissent. Nobody to my knowledge has been physically harmed by something someone else has said, however those that… Read more »

MichaelM
3 years ago
Reply to  Hester

Very well said, Hester.

Two other wise (IMO) observations in this connection:

“Offence is taken, not given” – Anon

“No-one can make you feel inferior without your consent” – Eleanor Roosevelt

transmissionofflame
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

He clearly meant to be rude, but I don’t think you should lose your job for being rude, unless you’re in a customer service business or something. But he’s not. People in the entertainment industry often say rude things about people, but only lose their jobs if they are rude about the wrong people. I guess I think it’s obviously a joke because it’s such an outlandish image and completely unlikely to happen in real life. Do you seriously think he’d be standing there applauding or joining in if it actually happened?
I don’t think what he said was very funny, but I recognised it as a form of humour.

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Sorry if I came over as abrupt. When you can’t see someone’s face or hear intonation in someone’s voice it can convey a different message than what is intended. I also shouldn’t text when I’ve not slept..😦

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Shit, that was for ToF. Bollocking butter fingers..

transmissionofflame
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

No need to apologise
You are entitled to your views and I believe debate is healthy
We are all in the same side here, broadly, at least as far as Covid goes
In general I think the level of debate here is way superior to most social media forums I’ve seen
I guess it’s better to avoid personal attacks and allowing too much emotion to creep in but these are trying times

NeilParkin
3 years ago

Trump dismisses COVID-19 vax safety claims, says he saved 100 million lives” 

Easily calculated. Rate of death(Vaxed) – Rate of Death(Unvaxed), should do it.

Freddy Boy
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Trump is slipping slowly away ! T- at ! Even he can’t be reading alternative expert views ! Dumb or what !

Freecumbria
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Yes. For example look at the ONS July dataset up to May 2022. There are problems with that dataset as detailed in Norman Fenton etal’s paper The likely errors in the ONS dataset in broad terms may amongst other things be a) errors in deaths that have occurred in the first few weeks after the experimental vaccine being recorded as unvaccinated deaths rather than vaccinated deaths. b) An understatement of the proportion unvaccinated in each age group that persists through to May 2022, after most first doses have been given. So you can’t look at absolute mortality rates in the vaxed and unvaxed because of these errors. But however looking at the trends in the ratio of vaxed mortality to unvaxed mortality over time, rather than the absolute values of the ratio of vaxed to unvaxed mortality, and by using vaxed (any dose) mortality rather than say second or third dose, and only looking at the trends for the period from roughly one month after most first doses have been given to May 2022 you can see what is happening The logic is that by looking at a period a month after most first doses have been given the misallocation of… Read more »

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Freecumbria
3 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

And in the 90+ age group we see similar trends of relative vaxed mortality (vs the unvaxed) increasing with subsequent doses. What’s more in this age group even using the raw ONS data the unvaxed 90+ category have lower absolute all cause mortality in March to May 2022 than the vaxed (any dose) and that’s without adjusting for the ONS likely understatement of the percentage unvaccinated!

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Freecumbria
3 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

And in the 70-79 age group rising relative mortality in the vaxed (any dose) again

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Freecumbria
3 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

And incidentally the ONS claim the unvaxed are a select group with better health than the vaxed in the 70-79 age group (see their chart attached) and yet the unvaxed non covid mortality from their raw data is higher than non covid mortality in the vaxed up to October 2021 (from my previous chart). A clear contradiction, and a very strong indicator that the ONS percentage unvaccinated is understated and that the absolute ratios can’t be compared; only the trends can be compared.

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NeilParkin
3 years ago

Scotland should explore allowing eight year-olds to change their gender, says MSP

I think we should be exploring their hard drive…

transmissionofflame
3 years ago

“The British boss of Wall Street banking giant Citigroup told the WEF gathering that “slackers” working from home will be “hauled back to the office” for coaching, reports the Mail.”

God give me strength. Does this pillock think that these “slackers” were all working hard when they were in the office, just because they were sitting at their desks? Does he have no way to measure productivity and motivate and incentivise staff apart from making them sit at a desk? There are probably a small number of people in most firms who just don’t have the self discipline, but if your staff are not grown up and need baby sitting maybe they need to find another job.

TheGreenAcres
3 years ago

And how exactly does he expect his workers to reach their desks, what with the current proliferation of public transport strikes, ULEZ schemes, 15 minute cities and the increasing number of adverse weather events caused by anthropological global warming??

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

the increasing number of adverse weather events caused by anthropological global warming??”

I assume this is sarcasm?

Jon Garvey
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

It’s a well-known fact that people working from home produce three times as much methane as those in offices. That’s what’s increased the global warming, and that’s what has made it not only too hot to get to work, but impossible to avoid the floods from rising sea-level. And hence there’s a mass extinction of home workers that is plain before our very eyes, and that’s why productivity had gone down. I have a model to prove it.

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
3 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

Hahaha…good one. Models, eh? I remember reading somewhere that this ‘time’ was predicted in that people would leave their meaningless jobs behind as they sought meaning in their meaningless lives. Let’s face it, desk jobs…what exactly does a desk job entail? Sitting at a desk staring at a screen for 8 hours or more a day and moving a cursor around on that screen clicking on bits of text or numbers or typing (as I did in my time and now actually too) bits of text. Is that what we envisaged as an evolutionary step forward? Not hard to see how the Mekons ended up as all brain and no body, same with the Daleks. Desk jobs must be responsible for a significant part of the livelihoods of osteopaths, chiropractors, physiotherapists etc. It’s dull sitting at a desk and unhealthy and even duller attending meetings. I used to dislike meetings so much I made an art of never attending them. We’ve created a dull world for ourselves. Far better to pretend to be working from home and be able to master soufflé recipes, play with the cat, lie in the sunshine, chop wood or whatever else makes life beautiful and… Read more »

JohnK
3 years ago

Today’s bankruptcy: https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articles/2023/01/ev-battery-maker-britishvolt-collapses-hundreds-to-lose-jobs/ Something the Gov was quite keen about, a year ago, with the last but one PM.

Trev the Geek
3 years ago
Reply to  JohnK

Remind me who that was. At one point, I thought No. 10 was going to have revolving doors fitted. ; >)

BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago

Good morning!
Yesterday evening’s MD4CE meeting guest was Karen Kingston whose research & conclusion I am certain Hux will fully endorse when it comes to the bioweapon injection. Very, very interesting deep dive into the contracts made in the USA between the government, Pfizer & Moderna.
BB

https://karenkingston.substack.com/p/10-reasons-to-criminally-charge-pfizer

ellie-em
3 years ago

I’ve recently started following her substack. She makes a lot of sense.

BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago
Reply to  ellie-em

She knows her stuff! The recording of yesterday evening’s presentation will be up to view here later this week: cbkovess

ellie-em
3 years ago

Thanks for that. Much appreciated.

ebygum
3 years ago

..this is a clip from her interview with Emerald Robinson…….the U.S Government’s departure from the ‘norm’, in relation the the Pfizer cotract is another suspicious ‘oddity’ to add to the pile!!

https://rumble.com/v25w0sw-karen-kingston-its-time-to-hold-pfizer-criminally-liable.html

BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

It was the oddities in the contract that she explained yesterday. Very interesting.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago

Karen Kingston whose research & conclusion I am certain Hux will fully endorse when it comes to the bioweapon injection.”

Thanks BB and you are correct, I absolutely do concur with Karen Kingston. Acting illegally before the event (authorisation) does not mean that Pfisser and Bion-tech can subsequently seek indemnity via laws they wish to interpret in a retrospective manner. They acted illegally both before and after roll-out. And did this knowingly.

Send ’em down!

JohnK
3 years ago

The last 15 s in the Kochi University one says it all, a wise cynic might say. “I don’t know if I should say this. But it has been found that vaccinated people are more likely to get corona virus” (English translated text on the Twitter screen). The old saying “the cure is worse than the disease” seems to be apposite here.

ebygum
3 years ago

Re the ATL story …Dr Ennos calling for the jabs to be halted..

this from Steve Kirsch…

I looked in 2021 for ALL vaccines causing aortic aneurysm rupture. 100% had the COVID vaccine. Just a coincidence? I don’t think so. See https://ehealthme.com/vs/pfizer-biontech-covid-vaccine/aortic-aneurysm-rupture/

Also from Steve, the story of the FAA pilots in the roundup …and Tucker’s take on it….(about 16 mins in…)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWmP_mtruVY

ebygum
3 years ago

Steve Bannon’s War Room interview with Edward Dowd….

Narrative Collapsing, Unexplained Deaths: 
A Shift in the Story Is Coming Soon – Ed Dowd

worth a watch…..
https://www.bitchute.com/video/faolhF5SPRSb/

ebygum
3 years ago

I just love this bloke! Aww!!!

https://www.flgov.com/2023/01/17/governor-ron-desantis-announces-initiative-to-make-protections-from-covid-mandates-permanent-enact-new-protections-for-free-speech-for-medical-practitioners/

PANAMA CITY BEACH, Fla. — Today, Governor Ron DeSantis announced a common-sense legislative proposal to make permanent COVID-19 freedoms in Florida. This strong pro-freedom, anti-mandate action will permanently protect Floridians from losing their jobs due to COVID-19 vaccine mandates, protects parents’ rights, and institutes additional protections that prevent discrimination based on COVID-19 vaccine status.

When the world lost its mind, Florida was a refuge of sanity, serving strongly as freedom’s linchpin,” said Governor Ron DeSantis. “These measures will ensure Florida remains this way and will provide landmark protections for free speech for medical practitioners.”

 
The proposal includes the permanent prohibition of mandates that are continuously proven ineffective, including:

  • Permanently prohibiting COVID-19 vaccine passports in Florida;
  • Permanently prohibiting COVID-19 vaccine and mask requirements in all Florida schools;
  • Permanently prohibiting COVID-19 masking requirements at businesses; and
  • Permanently prohibiting employers from hiring or firing based on mRNA jabs.

Included in Governor DeSantis’ proposal are first amendment rights guarantees for medical professionals, ensuring no one loses their job or medical license for voicing their professional opinions in Florida. The legislation will safeguard medical professionals from discrimination based on their personal religious views.

Freecumbria
3 years ago

From HART; More evidence of mRNA vaccine failure: Real world data looking worse with time
https://www.hartgroup.org/more-evidence-of-mrna-vaccine-failure/?swcfpc=1

JohnK
3 years ago

Another “selective with the truth” promo by some bureaucrats? https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articles/2023/01/ev-users-could-save-1-000-a-year-under-governments-smart-charging-plan/

What it says nothing about is the possibility that they would want to use it to overcome difficulties with the capacity of local distribution networks, if loads of people want to be able to charge car batteries at home, by remotely curtailing your demand on the system.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago

https://www.farminguk.com/news/minister-criticised-for-saying-nz-lamb-better-for-environment-than-uk-lamb_61901.html

Oh look who’s doing his bit for British farming – it’s that fake patriot Dan Hannan.

Just what our farmers need. He’s a repulsive shill.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago

Horse face in New Zealand is firkin off.

Obviously Klaus has another job for the Next Tuesday.