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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
  • Former dragon Rachel Elnaugh has set up a safe haven for anti-vaxxers” – Former Dragons’ Den star Rachel Elnaugh has raised nearly £1 million with a group called Phoenix Rose to buy 70 acres of Derbyshire forest as a ‘safe haven’ for so-called ‘anti-vaxxers’. The Mail is calling these people “dangerous”, when in reality they just sound slightly new agey.

The same Mailicious that gave that former health secretary (whose name I will not utter here) a platform to say some disgraceful things about people raising legitimate concerns about the dangerous experimental gene therapy mRNA drugs he had urged all and sundry to take. Can I say that the Mailicious are still not to be trusted?

NeilParkin
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

..and easy to find in their 70 acre utopia…?

transmissionofflame
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

People who don’t want an experimental medical treatment and are worried about being forced into it – and many UK citizens were sacked or threatened with sack for not taking the jab are “dangerous” if they want to create themselves a safe haven? Ok.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

What a sick society we have become. Maybe the BBC or the Times muppets can do a report on the trauma caused by this? Vile.

godknowsimgood
godknowsimgood
3 years ago

From the Telegraph article, ‘Critics claim Covid jabs are causing heart problems – do they have any proof?’: “However it is also important to remember that Covid also carries a risk of myocarditis – and one that is far higher than the vaccine, at 1,500 cases per million infections. This is why experts believe that the benefits of a jab far outweigh the risk.” A flaw in that argument is that the vaccines do not prevent people from getting Covid. Therefore getting vaccinated means you are not only at risk of getting myocarditis if you get Covid but in addition you are at risk of getting myocarditis because you have been vaccinated.  So you are increasing your risk of myocarditis by getting vaccinated – unless getting vaccinated reduces your risk of getting myocarditis if you get Covid. But it’s acknowledged that vaccination increases your risk of myocarditis, so getting vaccinated would hardly increase your risk of getting myocarditis and simultaneously reduce your risk of getting myocarditis if you get Covid! If there is any evidence that vaccination reduces your risk of getting myocarditis if you get Covid, I’d like to see it. Otherwise, getting vaccinated means you are at risk of… Read more »

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  godknowsimgood

Ah but children are supposed to put their health at risk to “save” the vulnerable!

“1,500 per million”? Isn’t that the approximate mortality rate from the “vaccines”? Discuss…

ellie-em
3 years ago
Reply to  godknowsimgood

“Otherwise, getting vaccinated means you are at risk of myocarditis from Covid and additionally from the vaccine.”
Double jeopardy!

I’ll stick with my ‘no jab’ stance – it is safer and more effective…

Jon Garvey
3 years ago
Reply to  godknowsimgood

“Benefits outweigh risks for the vast majority of people.”

This mantra reveals a lack of any understanding of probability. For some people (per argumentum) there is 100% certainty of benefit. For others there is 100% risk of death.

But because you don’t know which is which, you look for a probability, which is the “risk” for that population.

On the basis of the mantra, for most people being paid to play Russian roulette outweighs the risk. In fact, one out of every 6 people is certain to die, and your policy on legalising Russian roulette is to save that minority from certain death.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

National Maritime Museum? I do hope they have a section on how my ancestor Sir Cloudesley Shovell as a young lieutenant (but later admiral) in 1675 played a part in the redemption of English slaves in Algiers. It should also be noted that the conditions of some people in Britain in the 19th century were described as “white slavery”. Maybe their descendants will get compensation…

Mogwai
3 years ago

A good little ( 24min ) documentary taking a broader look at excess deaths and asking why people aren’t curious to know why people, especially the non-elderly, are dying. I have no idea why Jeff Bridges makes a cameo appearance but anyway…Have you heard of ‘The Great Resignation’? The reason so many working age people have left the workforce in the US may not be what the mainstream media are saying, especially if the actuary data that Ed Dowd has been presenting is anything to go by.

https://rumble.com/v1qye4k-about-61000-lives-perished.html

Mogwai
3 years ago

Here’s ‘The 2nd smartest guy’s’ take on the Telegraph article above, including his opinion which challenges Malhotra’s on regular vaccines. Seriously, who in their right mind would not be having second thoughts about traditional vaccines at this point in time? Why be selective in your scepticism?

“Here’s hoping that just like Dr Malhotra made the connections regarding the mRNA poison that murdered his father, he will one day also realize that traditional vaccines are anything but the Holy Grail of medicine; in fact, they are the Holy Grail of slow kill eugenics. Perhaps any one of the plethora of traditional vaccine side effects needs to cause damage to another relative or friend of Dr Malhotra’s for him to once again open his mind and realize the errors of his medical training brainwashing.”

https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/breaking-the-msm-now-have-no-choice

MichaelM
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I must say I am not sure about Dr Malhotra.

In early 2021, despite lacking expertise in vaccinology and epidemiology, he willingly goes on mainstream media in order to urge people, including people from ethnic minorities, to take the jabs. Many will have relied on his assurances and been injured or died as a result. Despite his change of opinion, he has not (I don’t think) acknowledged that he should not have promoted the jabs in the first place.

And now he continues to label vaccines as “the Holy Grail of medicine”. Does he think that adopting a mainstream position on vaccines in general gives added weight to his non-mainstream line on the mRNA vaccines?

What about just speaking the truth with a degree of humility?

The Dogman
The Dogman
3 years ago
Reply to  MichaelM

“Does he think that adopting a mainstream position on vaccines in general gives added weight to his non-mainstream line on the mRNA vaccines?“. I won’t pretend to know his mind on this, but even if he was even a tiny bit sceptical about regular vaccines, it would make absolute sense to keep that to himself. This is the battle we are fighting right now and to jeopardize that by risking his reputation would be a poor tactical move. Once you get labeled as an ‘anti-vaxxer’, in the current climate, there is no way back.

MichaelM
3 years ago
Reply to  The Dogman

I agree with you that he shouldn’t necessarily question previous vaccines. But he doesn’t need to describe them as “the Holy Grail of medicine”. He must realise he made a huge and grave error in promoting the mRNA vaccines in early 2021 and so should now show a bit of restraint in an area where he is not an expert.

The Dogman
The Dogman
3 years ago
Reply to  MichaelM

That’s fair. If I had to guess, I would think that he still believes they I the Holy Grail. This is the accepted wisdom in medecine and a great deal of money has been spent to polarise the debate between ‘The Science (TM)’ and the “anti vaxxers”. I myself was pretty dismissive of the concerns of those against vaccines myself until I started to do my own research. Thankfully, other than my own daughter, nobody was affected by this ignorance, but of course we should hold doctors to a higher standard. I am not excusing it, but trying to explain it. I think he does realise he made a grave error, but personally, I am inclined to credit him for his courage on speaking out, regardless of the cost to his reputation, rather than damn him for his previous blindness.

MichaelM
3 years ago
Reply to  The Dogman

I think on balance you are probably right, The Dogman. He does deserve a lot of credit for speaking out against the mRNA shots.

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  MichaelM

Yes I know what you mean. Perhaps, as The Dogman says, starting to cast doubt on the regular vaccines may be a bridge too far, especially if he hasn’t done enough research in this area thus far to be confident in publicly planting the seeds of doubt in Jo Normie’s brain ( unlike Robert F. Kennedy Jnr, for example ) and he may not want to get tarred with the standard ”anti-vaxxer” slur and risk ruining his professional reputation. Just a guess. As I said, I find it very hard to believe that somebody can go so all in with their time spent on in-depth research, as he has done on the clot shots, but not look at the medical-pharmaceutical-industrial complex. Well, he’s actually done it already with his presentation on the mRNA jabs hasn’t he? He’s been banging on for a while now about how the UK regulator has 86% of its funding from Big Pharma ( see below ), so why on earth, if he’s doing all of these interviews and presentations all over the place, would that worrying fact only apply to the Covid jabs? Of course it doesn’t. I strongly suspect what Dr Malhotra says publicly… Read more »

MichaelM
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Well said, Mogwai – I agree with all of that. I think he (probably correctly) judges that it’s a battle to be fought a step at a time and that he needs to appear reasonable to a broader audience in order to be heard at all.

NeilParkin
3 years ago

How teachers are re-educating boys brainwashed by Andrew Tate

.but no-one is re-educating boys, and girls, brainwashed by Greta Thunberg, I see. Tate splits opinion alright. I’ve watched some of his stuff to see what the fuss is about, and really apart from the way he presents as an Ultra Alpha Male (He was genuinely a World Champion Kickboxer and a very wealthy self made man..), his views on many things are logical, reasonable, even conventional and traditional. I suppose the mark of this is how fast the left dived onto the ‘Misogynist Andrew Tate arrested for People Trafficking’ story, a complete nothing-burger as it turned out. I don’t think I’d like to have dinner with the guy to be fair, but he is yet another who is really misrepresented and demonised by the media.

Mogwai
3 years ago

There is *definitely* nothing unusual about, and certainly no reason to question the fact that there’s been a 630% increase in child deaths since the bioweapons were authorized for this cohort. Nothing pointing towards intentional harming of our kids when, here in the NL, for example, any child 12 or above can get a death shot. In Clown World this is the new normal apparently.

https://expose-news.com/2023/01/06/covid-19-vaccine-linked-to-7x-increase-deaths-children-europe/

NeilParkin
3 years ago

Jack Monroe: The acceptable face of poverty

When the middle classes are opining about families using foodbanks and starving children, I do wonder if any of them know one first hand. Or do they buy a bag containing canned soup and spaghetti hoops in Waitrose and leave it ‘for the poor’, striding confidently out of the shop knowing they have saved another life today..?

In this case the writer is drawing out attention to Jack Monroe making ‘egg rings’ out of old tuna cans so she can get her fried eggs perfectly circular. To be honest that doesn’t seem like a kind of priority for hard pressed families, unless they are trying to make a substitute Egg McMuffins to keep the kids topped up before they hit the Monster Munch. Seems a rum-do when even the needy get marked down on presentation.

NeilParkin
3 years ago

Electric car revolution at crisis point due to charging point shortage” 

Apart from the obviousness of this, I see that proposals are already advancing to have ‘car-free Sundays’ in Cities. This might be fine in Hampstead, but people work in cities on Sundays, businesses have deliveries on Sundays, people go shopping or socialise on Sundays. Why do they always conceive life from their own point of view. Why not stop the school run, or journeys to second homes.? In the same story, a proposal to lower the speed limit to 64mph. All this will really do is to slow traffic, lengthen journeys, but also buggers up HGV’s who need to keep momentum, and want the cars past them quickly especially on hills to avoid changing gear. What is is about committees that they should be more than the summation of their knowledge and expertise, and yet they always end up somewhere below the lowest common-denominator.?

JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

It’s weird why they use 64 mph; it’s not even an imperial conversion (would be 103 km/h). The only oddity is that it might be a deliberate allowance for normal inaccuracy to comply with the instrument accuracy standards, so many will actually run at 60 with 64 on display.

Re HGVs, most of them are already limited to 90 km/h, and lots of PSVs are limited to 100 km/h. All that said, it looks like a classic “Something Must Be Done” crap policy, and fits in with similar ones being done by the Welsh Gov – no shortage of long 50 mph limits, and other lower values, across the border on the M4 and in other areas, e.g.

Freecumbria
3 years ago

The ‘Why is the Vaccine killing our Young Men and Women’ above link is a very good read.

acle
acle
3 years ago

What I found interesting about the Sarah Knapton article was not just how incredibly well written it was – lengthy, very reassuring tone, lots of references to ‘studies’ – but the fact that it was published at all. Most of the people I know, all jabbed to the hilt and with a dose of Covid to boot, aren’t talking about this. They are sending their kids off to get jabbed, having their boosters, talking about the ‘worst cold ever’ / cost of living / air fryers (poor old Ukraine seems to have lost momentum here).

Is scepticism really rising about the jabs? I’m not seeing it in real life. It feels like a panicked release by the Telegraph after Damar Hamlin.

transmissionofflame
3 years ago
Reply to  acle

I’m not seeing it in real life but in general jabs don’t come up in conversation and I don’t bring them up. It’s awkward. Hi mate, did you know you might have been given myocarditis by the jabs? Anyone I know well enough to say that to I wouldn’t because it’s too late and no point scaring them. All I would do is advise people not to get any more – if someone I don’t know well I would only do this if asked, if it’s someone I care for I would make a point of telling them without being asked.

Dinger64
3 years ago

£66000 on rainbow flags etc!
The UK police have lost ALL respect as far as I’m concerned, who now can possibly take them seriously? Their just a group of macarena dancing gay activsts! What about the other 98% of the population they are supposed to represent and protect?
Oh, and hows their crime clear-up rate coming along? Arr that’s it, I remember now, 6%!!!
Pack this nonsense in an do your f-ing jobs!

huxleypiggles
3 years ago

https://unherd.com/2023/01/jack-monroe-the-acceptable-face-of-poverty/

I read this article a few days ago and it is absolute BS. Monroe’s father is ex-military, he is a millionaire, her real name isn’t Jack Monroe and her poverty is complete fiction. She is an establishment plant who has been ‘placed’ with a mission to make poverty glamorous, living on 50 pence per day.

One of our regulars posted a link to a substack a few days ago which actually linked to an article that did a complete take-down on Monroe.

I’ll bet Katie Hopkins could enlighten us on this girl.

BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago

The Courts in the USA are forcing some revealing data which the CDC didn’t want into the public domain. This information release has huge implications for informed consent based on the safety profile of the bioweapon injections.

https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/cdc-hides-18-million-vaxxxine-injuries-just-in-the-usa

BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago

At last! Military personnel upholding their oath & taking out the leader who is giving usafe/dangerous orders as is their duty to do so. More serving military around the world need to act honourably

https://realrawnews.com/2023/01/marines-arrest-vaccine-loving-deputy-director-of-the-defense-health-agency/

BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago

An Australian FOI release on bioweapon batch safety toxicity

https://seemorerocks.is/australian-foi-documents-revealed/

BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago

The dangers of the WHO treaty need to be more widely reported. The implications for bodily sovereignty are immense. James Roguski continues with his one man mission to inform the world before it’s too late.

https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/100-reasons

huxleypiggles
3 years ago

This is horrific BB.

BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Which is why it needs to be widely publicised. We need to know that the WHO is anything but benign.

ebygum
3 years ago

Morning all. In relation to several articles ATL regarding health and particularly Children’s health..I spotted this little nugget…which raises even more questions…? Well worth a read… https://www.disabilityrightsuk.org/news/2022/december/number-new-pip-claimants-has-doubled-year 7th December 2022 A new report by the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) highlights that the number of working-age people who received Personal Independence Payment (PIP) doubled between July 2021 and July 2022. In summer 2021, each month 15,000 or so working-age people started receiving PIP with that monthly figure having remained little changed for years. By July 2022, the latest data, shows it had doubled to 30,000 per month, with no sign of slowing down. The increase in claimants is seen across medical conditions and ages, with the fastest rise among teenagers, where claim rates have tripled. The IFS says that with no change in the number of people seeing an end to their PIP claim, this implies a growing number of recipients: Currently there are 2.8 million claimants, whose payments cost in total £15 billion per year. This sudden increase seems to be driven by a worsening of health across the population – something for which there is now accumulating evidence across a number of sources. Around a third of the… Read more »

Freecumbria
3 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

Very interesting

To get PIP you must be below State Pension Age and amongst other things you must have found it hard to do everyday tasks or get around because of a physical or mental condition for 3 months.

So sort of ties in with the experimental vaccination role out time wise as in Summer 2021 many wouldn’t have yet met the 3 month criteria after which the increase appears to have happened.

Freecumbria
3 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Look at the yellow award line and go back 3 months to see when these physical and mental conditions may have started increasing

The full IFS report is worth a read

PIP-increase.jpg
godknowsimgood
godknowsimgood
3 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

This should be a main news story, yet this is the first I’ve heard of it. GB News and The Daily Sceptic should highlight it.

Here is the link, at the end of the Disability Rights article, to the actual report by the Institute for Fiscal Studies:

https://ifs.org.uk/sites/default/files/2022-12/The-number-of-new-disability-claimants-has-doubled-in-a-year-IFS-report-R233.pdf

godknowsimgood
godknowsimgood
3 years ago
Reply to  godknowsimgood

From the IFS report:

“Precisely why health is getting worse is well beyond the scope of this report, and research and debate will continue as to how – if at all – this relates to direct or indirect effect of the pandemic and the performance of the NHS.”

john ball
john ball
3 years ago

the Govt. has just issued (4 Jan) a Consultation on Draft Legislation to Support Identity Verification, being a step on the road to digital ID etc. Please disseminate and respond by the end of February. I tried to include the link without success

Freddy Boy
3 years ago
Reply to  john ball

Of course they have ! It’s where they are taking us & we have no say in the matter !

JohnK
3 years ago

Odd how YT algorithms work! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4JU5–FU3s&list=WL&index=1 “Mpre jabs, more infections – that’s odd!” I bet they didn’t intend to broadcast Mr Vobes cynical analysis (which I agree with). Just under 6 minutes.