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Freddy Boy
3 years ago

Andrew Bridgen MP finished raising concerns on the jabs for babies in HOC ! He sat down & Sunak fired back with the tired old Safe & Effective mantra ! Oh Dear !!…

godknowsimgood
godknowsimgood
3 years ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

What is the definition of “safe”?

What is the definition of “effective”?

If anyone, including the Prime Minister, claims the vaccines are “safe and effective” but cannot tell us their definition of “safe and effective”, then their claim is meaningless.

If anyone claims that Ivermectin is “safe and effective”, who can argue with them if they cannot define “safe and effective”?

What do Rishi Sunak and his medical experts think is the difference between the claim that the vaccines are “safe and effective” and that Ivermectin is “safe and effective”?

You don’t need to be a medical expert to understand that we need to have intelligent and rational discussion about anything claimed to be “safe and effective” but we don’t have. Reminds me of Eric Idle’s Galaxy Song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buqtdpuZxvk
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JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  godknowsimgood

The use of the term “safe and effective” is simplistic nonsense. It wouldn’t get anywhere if they were developing a proper safety related system in serious engineering. In that world, terms like “safety integrity level (SIL)” are used, which incorporate numeric comparisons between risk and unwanted failure, either within the product itself, or in the environment which it is supposed to protect in some way. Thus terms like SIL1, up to SIL4 are used for certain products.

Lots of available info about that concept, e.g. https://blog.msasafety.com/what-safety-integrity-level-means/

My own experience of it all was in the railway industry, in particular signalling systems, with a lot of my work being at the SIL4 end of the scale (basically interlocking kit and so on). SIL 0 is more like it for the drug on offer at present, unfortunately!

ebygum
3 years ago
Reply to  godknowsimgood

It’s what they do now isn’t it…it’s all psyops “safe and effective” “grateful to be vaccinated” “unprovoked attack on Ukraine”….it’s ALL supposed to point us in a direction and it’s ALL from a script.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksb3KD6DfSI

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

Wouldn’t expect anything else from your unelected WEF PM puppet. Utter cockwomble!

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Short and to the point, Mogs! Says it all really.

Free Lemming
3 years ago

I’m not a religious man, but know that we are in a battle of good vs evil. The last couple of years still has my head spinning; previously sane people becoming insane overnight. The sacrifice of children is absolutely abhorrent – lockdowns, masks, ‘vaccines’, drag queen f*ckin story time for heaven’s sake! There is nothing that is now sacred. And that does make me think of the Bible and how God, upon seeing the moral collapse of mankind, decided to destroy and start again. I’m not a religious man, but if God is watching our time must surely be up.

Alvedans
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

You’re right. The warnings and predictions of the Bible need to be taken altogether seriously. I don’t describe myself as religious either – I don’t like the tag, but I definitely believe the words of the Bible and am expecting Judgement Day to come.

‘Repent and be baptised everyone of you for the forgiveness of your sins.’
‘Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.’
In just a little while, the wicked will be no more;
    though you look carefully at his place, he will not be there.
But the meek shall inherit the land
    and delight themselves in abundant peace.’

NeilParkin
3 years ago
Reply to  Alvedans

Dont be too disappointed if the four horsemen don’t show. There are lots of good stories in the Bible, many relevant today. But if we are getting out of this mess, its going to be down to us to do it. There’s no saviour on the way to do it for us…

Alvedans
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

As far as I can see the four horsemen are busy riding around the world right now!
Conquest, War, Famine & Death

The Heavens will be rolled back when Jesus comes again as Judge and King

Free Lemming
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

That’s not what I’m saying. Not at all. I don’t believe in a God, and I’m not expecting some miracle saviour. But I don’t think a complete reset of mankind would be the worst thing to happen. That was my point.

Mogwai
3 years ago

El Gato’s article is very interesting and troubling. However, I’m surprised they didn’t include data on miscarriages and stillbirths also. If incidences of these were also up since the vax roll-out ( and whatever is reported is always but a fraction of the reality ) would that not add more weight to the likelihood of the jabs being the culprit? I still think it’s too easy for people to brush off these data on low birth rates as, “Oh it’s just less people are wanting to start a family in these uncertain times.” I don’t know if anyone anywhere has looked at all, or many, highly vaxxed countries ( say, 80+% of population ) and recorded their data on birth rates/miscarriages/stillbirths, because this signal should be present in all such places surely, if the jabs are to blame? I only ever seem to see examples of one or two countries, which isn’t terribly helpful in reality. We need to see a trend in all high vaxxed countries, and preferably the inverse in low vaxxed countries, in order to further support our hypothesis and help establish causality.

ebygum
3 years ago

Good Morning All!

This study is pre-print and has yet to go through peer-review, but I don’t think it will surprise many of us here…interesting though…

https://www.technologynetworks.com/applied-sciences/news/sars-cov-2-traces-detected-in-barcelona-waste-water-from-march-2019-336688

SARS-CoV-2 Traces Detected in Barcelona Waste Water From March 2019These results encouraged the researchers to analyse some frozen samples between January 2018 and December 2019, with the shocking results of the presence of SARS-CoV-2 genome in March 2019, before any notification of COVID-19 cases in the world. “All samples were negatives regarding the SARS-CoV-2 genome presence except for March 12, 2019, in which the levels of SARS-CoV-2 were low but were positive, using two different targets”, says the researcher.

“Barcelona receives many visitors for both tourist and professional reasons, –continues Bosch–, and it is possible for a similar situation to have taken place in other parts of the world, and since most of the COVID-19 cases show a similar symptomatology to the flu, those cases could have been disguised as an undiagnosed flu”.

JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

Quite a way back, I remember there being stories about the detection of things like that in sewerage – not just there, but also in Brazil, which suggested that it’s been around for a lot longer than the claimed date, whether from a single location (Wuhan), or not. Controversial, of course.

ebygum
3 years ago
Reply to  JohnK

..one has to wonder if it could have all passed by, with maybe an above average elderly death rate from flu for a few weeks in March/April 2020…
If they hadn’t started up the Covid machine?

godknowsimgood
godknowsimgood
3 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

How many died due to being unwisely put on ventilators in March/April 2020?

Later in the year they mostly stopped putting Covid patients on ventilators. Why? Presumably because it was killing patients.

ebygum
3 years ago

Within the UK Parliament where are the politicians that should be standing up for the public and asking the same questions?

Senator Gerard Rennick….who’s brilliant video was in the round-up yesterday…posting today..

@SenatorRennick

With over 10 million cases of Covid in Australia by September 22, real world data seems to suggest the most common side effect of the Covid vaccine is the virus itself! Do you agree?

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
3 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

Yes, an excellent video of a passionate man speaking truth. A true Australian and what I remember being the best of that country, as opposed to the spineless bureaucrats that seem to infest the parliamentary systems these days. What I find most worrisome are the mocking and bored reactions of the women across the chamber. They are not interested in the vaccine injured nor in any of the data that shows their actions – I am presuming they are from the ruling party – have been ruinous for people’s livelihoods and health. If there is such a thing as karma, then I wholeheartedly hope that these people, these women, are swept from the board at the next election or, probably sooner, they are charged with manslaughter and complicity in the crime of the century. They already know that the second possibility is not going to happen when the judiciary are also corrupt but one can hope. It shows what we are up against but we must try harder and continue and we must reach as many people as we can.

ebygum
3 years ago

Re the Strep A story… In the UK…

1.LAIV is indicated for the active immunisation of children and adolescents from 2 years to under 18 years of age for the prevention of influenza infection, in line with the recommendations given in Chapter 19 of Immunisation Against Infectious Disease: ‘The Green Book’ and annual flu letter(s).

2.https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00179-8/fulltext

Sept 2021..BackgroundInfluenza and other respiratory viruses promote Streptococcus pneumoniae proliferation in the upper respiratory tract. We sought to investigate for what we believe is the first time, the effect of intranasal live attenuated influenza vaccine (LAIV) on nasopharyngeal S pneumoniaedensity in a low-income to middle-income country population with high pneumococcal carriage rates.

InterpretationLAIV was associated with a modest increase in nasopharyngeal pneumococcal carriage and density in the 21 days following vaccination, 

It’s a short study to read and while I don’t pretend to be a doctor it reads to me entirely opposite to the conclusion they come to which is the usual.. that the ‘vaccine’ is S&E!! Sigh! But…?

The Dogman
The Dogman
3 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

Not a doctor either but looks like you are right to me. It seems standard now to write the conclusion before you do the research.

Chris P
Chris P
3 years ago

Governor DeSantis to hold mRNA manufacturers accountable for adverse reactions: –

https://www.bitchute.com/video/cViX9ljlXrI0/

ebygum
3 years ago

Good…the pompous, strawberry eating, virtue signalling, twats!
https://www.skysports.com/tennis/news/12110/12763444/lta-fined-820-000-by-atp-for-ban-on-russian-and-belarusian-players-this-summer

The Lawn Tennis Association has been fined £820,000 by the ATP and threatened with expulsion from the Tour if it repeats the ban on Russian and Belarusian players imposed earlier this year due to Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine…

..of course they are appealing the decision…

ebygum
3 years ago

Haven’t heard from him for ages…nice to know he’s still a diligent shill ….
So nothing to do with the vaccines then??

@timspector

The current wave of colds flu and strep and other infections could be related to Covid 19 messing with our immune system and immune memory….

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
3 years ago

“Loyal? Not the new woke Royals” My dad, bless him, used to ask various health support workers where they were from if they happened to be black or coloured. It wasn’t meant as racist, my father was genuinely interested because he’d served in Africa and could speak Swahili and wished to practice the few phrases he remembered. The one encounter like this that I witnessed wasn’t taken personally at all. The man told him where he was from and my father’s face lit up and he spoke his Swahili. If only people could stop being so bloody offended all the time, looking for racism everywhere and interpreting genuine interest as a racist ploy, we could all go about our lives much happier. I’m no fan of King Charles – I think the man is not a credit to this nation or the role of monarch if I’m honest – but I think there is a concerted attempt to undermine the monarchy by continuing to find fault in it. With Princes Harry and Andrew, their PR is not going well at all. Trying to be woker than woke, through cruel and unnecessary actions like this, is certainly not going to endear… Read more »

Chris P
Chris P
3 years ago

More lockdown deaths: –

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/alcoholspecificdeathsintheuk/2021registrations

Add possible deaths from liver damage that result from adverse reactions to the injections could explain why excess deaths from liver disease continues during 2022.

NeilParkin
3 years ago
Reply to  Chris P

A lot of livers took a battering during lockdown. Many people I know went from occasional drinkers to alcohol dependent…

ebygum
3 years ago

Maybe someone can point out to the ONS that things like this make ‘alternative theories’ worse..or are the figures THAT bad?

@ClareCraigPath

When is the ONS going to release the latest data on deaths by vaccination status?

Nothing has been published on deaths since May 2022.

ebygum
3 years ago

Re the Safe and Effective …

https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/1600787324249329664

‘I have a government telling me I’ve got to say safe and effective, and if I don’t my licence is at threat”…

Let’s face it, it isn’t an evidenced based statement anymore..it’s a belief system..

Chris P
Chris P
3 years ago

The House of Representatives have voted to end the US military vaccine mandate.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Chris P

A bit bleedin’ late.