Russian Popular Support for War in Ukraine Begins to Waver

Russian popular support for continuing the war in Ukraine is becoming increasingly fragile, according to a November opinion poll conducted by “Putin’s Praetorian Guard”, the Federal Protective Service, and leaked to Meduza. Overall, only 25% of respondents said they were in favour of continuing the war, versus 55% who were in favour of negotiations. This is in stark contrast to polling conducted in July, in which 57% were in favour of continuing the war, and only 32% in favour of peace talks. But this is roughly in line with the corresponding question asked by the Levada Center in October:

It’s important to put this into context. There is still overwhelming support in Russia for the military’s actions in Ukraine (73%), which might at first seem contradictory, but which merely suggests the desire for peace talks versus continued fighting arises from pragmatism and concern for an army they support.

The reasons for this concern aren’t hard to imagine. The “partial mobilisation”, which followed the disastrous rout from the Kharkiv region in September, is clearly one. Mobilisation, in Russia, turned out to be a euphemism for the shambolic rounding up of fighting-age men, who often had to provide much of their own food and equipment before being bussed off to Ukraine and told by drunken and inept commanders to advance on Ukrainian positions without adequate weaponry or clothing, or huddle in freezing and hastily-dug trenches to die of hypothermia. Advancing Russian troops have been easy targets for Ukrainian indirect fire and drone-dropped grenades, and at Bakhmut in particular (where Wagner PMC and its cadre of ex-convicts has also been heavily involved), the treatment of Russian soldiers as “single use” weapons has been horrific but also pitiful to the point where – paraphrasing Ovid – even the goddess Hera might have thought it a bit rough.

Yet, despite much heavy fighting and repeated attacks in some areas, there has been no Russian breakthrough. The retreat from Kherson and the widespread failure to make any gains, combined with the dawning realisation that Russia is losing, is likely the second reason for this shift in public opinion.

In an attempt to shore up support for the war, Putin recently put on a charade where he met some hand-picked stooges acting the part of mothers of Russian soldiers (who have traditionally been held in special regard by Russian society). During the meeting, Putin made a strange remark – but one that I think probably struck home. He reflected on the hopelessness of many Russian men, implying that it was better to be killed in Ukraine than succumbing to alcoholism inside Russia. And while in some societies alcoholism might fuel the caustic wit of a Christopher Hitchens or even make Country music appealing, the sheer pointlessness and misery of life in many of Russia’s remote towns and villages has produced nothing more than a few Darwin Awards. At least those killed in Ukraine died for a cause, Putin can say. Although, contrary to the earlier claim that the parents of fallen soldiers would be rewarded with enough money to buy a Lada, recent reporting suggests the winnings from this particularly deadly form of Russian roulette might now amount to just three towels and a card.

A recent focus group study, also conducted by the Kremlin in secret and leaked to Meduza, revealed that the tone of many respondents has changed to one of sullen withdrawal. “Leave us alone,” they seemed to be saying – we’re sick of hearing about it. As before, this suggests to me a genuine and deep dissatisfaction with the conduct of the war – which as patriots they would like to support, but which is becoming increasingly difficult.

However one slices it, little is likely to change as a result of these studies. Russians may be coming to the conclusion that the war isn’t going well (and also that things are getting worse inside Russia), and may wish for negotiations, but Ukraine knows full well that while Russian troops are on its soil, any kind of cease-fire – Putin’s aim in seeking negotiations – would only allow Russian forces to fix their gains and give them time to regroup before resuming hostilities at a time of their choosing.

And while it may be notable that it’s the Russian equivalent of the U.S. Secret Service doing this polling, indicating that the Kremlin at least pays some attention to public opinion, nevertheless Putin won’t be voted out of office, and no-one in a position to challenge him has any desire to embark on an exciting but brief career as a window quality control inspector. So as before, the West needs to continue to provide support for Ukraine and its valiant armed forces, but this half-hearted support – which balks at providing Western tanks and aircraft – needs to turn into total support, so as to help Ukraine bring this to an end as soon as possible. For this to happen, the myth that Russia would escalate to the use of battlefield nuclear weapons – which supposedly alarmed China, leading to the U.S. preventing the supply of aircraft to Ukraine – needs to be understood as such. Until then, the very real consequences of this increasingly desperate act of Russian aggression – at times reminiscent of both Stalingrad and the trenches of World War I – will continue to mount up, in terms of completely unnecessary deaths on both sides.

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JohnK
3 years ago

Wartime opinion polls – on either side, eh? What can go wrong!

Bella Donna
3 years ago

Negotiations were the best course of action unfortunately the overgrown schoolboy acting as our PM at the time decided the war should go on at any cost!

Free Lemming
3 years ago

And the opinion polls in the west now that reality is starting to bite? Only complete morons and those with an agenda didn’t believe in negotiation from the outset. Unfortunately, we seem to have far too many of both – the latter making good use of the former.

For a fist full of roubles

Despite what many people say, the Russians I have known are caring and compassionate people, and now they have seen the damage their troops are inflicting on the poor unfortunate Ukrainians and want to see it stop. Their concern was initially for the ethnic Russians who have been oppressed cruelly by Zelensky’s regime, but see no benefit to continuing the slaughter and destruction when Zelensky says he will not consider talking under any circumstances.
It would seem that it is Ukraine’s sponsors who lack any humanity when they keep insisting on continued fighting in a hopeless conflict and barely disguise their true agenda.

Lancer
Lancer
3 years ago

Yeah. The ‘special operation’ has presumably been achieved, at least in the areas they’ve conquered. Why there’s this apparent impetus to further encroach westward I don’t know. Are they establishing a fresh Neutral Zone to find its most defendable course? Then request or wait out talks & diplomacy?

ebygum
3 years ago

Thought I’d happened upon the increasingly loopy reporting from the Daily Telegraph by mistake there!! LOL!….hard to write an interesting or serious comment to another one of Mr Ron’s Fantasy Island reports…
No doubt his acolytes will be here shortly to stroke his delusions….!!

This isn’t anything to do with Von Der Liar dropping the 100.000 Ukrainian soldiers’ have died’ speech is it? (Before they tried to expunge every copy of it)
Call it winning if it makes you feel better…..to me it’s a terrible tragedy…and America is happy to keep escalating …..of course, according to them, its a cheap way of breaking Russia and “it’s costing them ‘peanuts’…….”….

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

Von Der Leyen (pronounced Fon Derr Lyin’ but sometimes inexplicably pronounced Fon Derr Layin)?

DaveEssel
DaveEssel
3 years ago

A few points, if I may I have a couple of Ukrainian refugees staying with me. Originally from Donetsk; mother-tongue Russian. When Russia invaded Donbas in 2014, they moved  to Mariupol, a Russian-speaking town in Ukraine. This was not done out of any strong conviction; they just felt happier being in Ukrainian territory while Russia made the Donetsk region poorer and poorer and less and less pleasant to live in. Between 2014 and the war, they regularly travelled to and fro to keep up with friends in the Donetsk region. At the same time, they became fond of Mariupol, where they were very happy. Now that the Russians have made their town into another ‘Berlin 1945’ and cost them their home, their car (hit by shell) and all but a suitcase full of their possessions, leaving them with nothing but a 6-year old daughter psychologically damaged by two months in a cellar under constant shelling, semi-starvation, and sights no child should have to see on rare escapes into fresh air in quiet periods, they now KNOW that they are Ukrainian and seriously dislike Russia (to put it mildly). The USSR was the only country in the world to gain territory as… Read more »

greggsy01
greggsy01
3 years ago

Ukraine army has been supported and trained by NATO since 2014 with billions in military support provided. It was de facto NATO force going on joint military missions. And come 2022, limited number of Russian corrupt and ill equipped troops enter and occupy significant part of the country having been allowed in very deeply by probably the most battle ready army in Europe with unlimited number of conscripts available on tap. After 9 months and many more billions of military assistance of all sorts, Ukraine could only manage to regain some marginal territory, suffering incredible losses as per Von Der Lyin’, where russians mostly retreated themselves due to the lack of personnel. Russia’s demands changed from just independence for LDPR to annexation of 4 regions among other things. Ukraine will never be able to formally join NATO until Russian troops are there, that’s neutrality. and it’s probably safe to say that the country’s original military equipment has now been mostly destroyed, that’s effectively demilitarization (another objective). With clear Russian set backs and no doubt ukranian troops bravery and successes, one simply unable to see imminent victory. So as before, the West needs to continue to provide support for Ukraine and… Read more »

bfbf334
3 years ago

We know that the vast majority of Ukrainians do not hold far-right political views. In the 2019 parliamentary elections, the country’s main far-right party, Svoboda, took only a single seat in the Rada. And the picture was not dramatically different in 2014, when Svoboda and Right Sector, another far-right party, took only seven seats. (There are 450 in total.) Although Svoboda did gain 37 seats in the 2012 elections, more people voted for the Communist Party. Which makes America’s history of courting far-right Ukrainian politicians somewhat peculiar. In December of 2013, while the Maidan protests were going on, U.S. Senator John McCain flew to Kiev to express his support for the protestors. “The free world is with you. America is with you. I am with you”, he assured them. But aside from delivering this speech, he also dined with ‘opposition leaders’, including a man named Oleh Tyahnybok – the leader of Svoboda. Tyahnybok is an unsavoury character. In 2004, he was expelled from the ‘Our Ukraine’ parliamentary block after giving a speech at the gravesite of a Ukrainian Insurgent Army commander. (The UPA was a WWII-era paramilitary organisation involved in anti-Jewish pogroms). In the speech, he denounced the “the Moscow-Jewish mafia ruling Ukraine”, and referred to “Muscovites, Germans, Jews and other scum”. In 2005, Tyahnybok co-signed an… Read more »