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Mogwai
3 years ago

Well this is a turn up for the books. Dr Robert Malone is suing Dr Peter and his wife Ginger Breggin for $25 million. I have no idea why he would do something so disproportionate to this elderly couple. Peter Breggin is an absolute legend within the field of psychiatry and has fought for decades to abolish barbaric and unethical treatments and bring about reform. I’d always brushed off the rumours that Malone was controlled opposition, and thought little of it, but now I’m having second thoughts. I didn’t know he’d also attacked others that are on the same side, such as Dr McCullough. But going after the Breggins like this is more than a little spiteful, especially as, given his extensive experience and career, you’d think he’d be well able to fend off all the criticism and attacks he’s been receiving these last few years. Many others have taken plenty of flack and not resorted to something like this. This is weird and he is not going to win himself many fans behaving in this excessive and unjustifiable way.

https://www.americaoutloud.com/robert-malone-sues-the-breggins-for-25-million/

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

$25 million?! Jeepers, Mogs! Well, one thing is for sure and that is that he has revealed himself for who he is. Malone seems to be very sensitive to even perceived criticism but his attacks and now this lawsuit which is a life ruining amount of money to claim really show me that he is a man who is not to be trusted. Whether he’s controlled opposition or not I don’t know but a lawsuit of this kind will basically tie up all the energies and time of this elderly couple so that they cannot focus on the fight at hand. One would have thought that Malone could have talked with the Breggins and come to an understanding but clearly he is a proud and angry man who is unable to act with humility and pathos. I think the health freedom movement needs people who get along and who leave their egos behind. This is the action of an unconsious and egotistical man. Shame really but we go on. Here’s another article about Malone’s actions (I almost posted the same link as you, Mogs!):

https://www.americaoutloud.com/dr-robert-malone-attacks-and-maligns-leading-freedom-fighters/

Mogwai
3 years ago

Yes indeed. Who knew? I read that article and it certainly puts more meat on the bones of where this all stems from. I had no idea that it was Malone who added the “psychosis” part to Desmet’s “Mass formation”, and that Breggin and Desmet object to adding ‘psychosis’ to it as it brings about a totally different meaning to the concept. But why would Malone be so invested in this mass psychosis thing anyway? He should stay in his own lane and what he’s expert at and let the likes of psychologists and psychiatrists speak as authorities in their fields of expertise. I thought the last part was quite telling..I reckon my mind’s made up now on Malone. “It seems unlikely he is promoting and so vigorously defending mass psychosis out of his own self-interest or personal commitment. As far as we can ascertain, this kind of subject is not a part of his lifestyle or history, and, as documented in this report, he even denies what seems to be his admitted authorship of it.  But as a psychiatrist with decades of expertise in the arena of politicizing and weaponizing psychiatry, I am deeply concerned that the diagnosis of… Read more »

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Agree, Mogs. My mind is made up too. Anyone who decides to sue an elderly couple for a staggering sum such as this just because they feel slighted or criticised is not someone I wish to support or believe in. His manipulation of the mass formation concept, adding the term ‘psychosis’, feels like a Trojan horse, waiting for people to say ‘that’s it, the truth!’ or whatever and then find out it is being used against them – or us rather.

godknowsimgood
godknowsimgood
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Call me old-fashioned, but I wouldn’t make a comment about a dispute like this until I knew what was said and heard both sides of the story.

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
3 years ago
Reply to  godknowsimgood

I agree with you but a $25 million lawsuit says an awful lot. Why so much? That amount will destroy whoever it is that it is aimed against. Since they are all meant to be on the same ‘side’ surely some adult dialogue and discussion would have sufficed, so why this? And the Breggins haven’t gone out of their way to slur his name and and reputation, they merely disagreed with a point. a perspective. He’s attacked Dr Peter McCullough too and others. This is not hearsay or rumour, it’s what he has done. He’s also suing the Washington Post for $50 million. Either he’s truly feeling he has been defamed or he’s playing some sort of game. I mean when you sue for $75 million that’s pretty damn serious.

Mogwai
3 years ago

Suing the Breggins is a complete over-reaction, going by the information we have at our disposal. It’s my theory that the reason for this action is two-fold. Firstly, Breggin has obviously hit a nerve, and given his many decades as a notable psychiatrist, if anyone has authority to call out Malone’s misuse of the term “mass formation psychosis” then it is him. By using the word “psychosis” he is immediately turning what was just a concept into basically branding someone with a mental illness, and I can see why Dr Breggin has spoken out and challenged him on this point. Malone is behaving inappropriately regarding that but also showing his arrogance in not deferring to Breggin’s obvious authority on the subject. Rather, he’s gone into attack mode. Secondly, possibly he’s doing this to send out a warning to anyone else who’s thinking of coming forward and speaking against him in some way. And by the sounds of those articles it seems there are now several people who’ve found themselves on the wrong side of Malone. Strangely, Malone can speak ill of or challenge others but he clearly can’t take a dose of his own medicine, so anyone says something about… Read more »

WyrdWoman
3 years ago
Reply to  godknowsimgood

I’m with you on this one. That said, Malone has covered all 3 matters in his substacks, giving a breakdown of his case against WaPo here (which seems pretty well-founded imho): https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/lawsuit-filed-rw-malone-vs-wp-company. Others (like celebs) have sued for much less.
Can’t find the appropriate links re Breggin and McCullough but I remember being pretty shocked and not a little disappointed at something McCullough said/wrote about Malone a while ago and wondered what had prompted it: had assumed they were all on the same page. Other skeptics might have better recall.
Malone and others (my god, look what they did to Kory and Marik) have been slandered, defamed and accused of being controlled oppo from the start – I’m not defending him, just pointing out that all those with their heads above the parapet are under unimaginable pressure both from without and, seemingly, from within, and cracks will inevitably appear.
Am assuming the amounts claimed are par for the course for liability cases in the US, ie, utterly obscene.

JayBee
3 years ago

This is a must read, share and understand article, nailing the real root cause of what went and still goes wrong, also very much applicable to ‘climate change’:
Really just making decisions and policy based upon plausibility instead of true science!
It is also looking into the problems of focussing solely on RCTs and of EBM.
https://brownstone.org/articles/plausibility-but-not-science-has-dominated-public-discussions-of-the-covid-pandemic/

Nobody2022
3 years ago

Pandemic Logic

Immunity is our best weapon against a virus.

But, if you got it via infection it should be ignored or denied it exists.

Nobody2022
3 years ago

Pandemic logic

People who are docile, do as they’re told without question, and follow “the science” are smart.

People who question what they’re being told to do must be brain damaged by covid.

There can be no other explanation as to why the former became able to ask questions and form their own opinions.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Nobody2022
3 years ago

Pandemic Logic

What’s happening in China is very different to people protesting lockdowns over here. They’ve been brutally locked down for 2 years and we didn’t even have a proper lockdown.

If it wasn’t for protesters we could have done what China did…

Nobody2022
3 years ago

Seen on Twitter today:

Important context for western excitement over the prospect of China abandoning zero COVID:

If China had lost the same percentage of its population to COVID as the U.S., the country would have lost ~4.5 million people to this virus.

According to Worldometers, India must have massivley miscounted their 530k dead.