Why Has the Government Never Apologised to Those Who Took the Vaccine ‘To Protect Others’ via a Herd Immunity That Never Came?
From the very start the UKHSA Vaccine Surveillance Reports delighted in telling us all how many millions of people had been vaccinated. Clearly, it was considered an important aspect of the message that Government wanted to send to the population. Week by week, the numbers vaccinated climbed ever higher, indicating that increasing numbers were now protected from infection by the tried, tested, safe and effective vaccines… And the nation waited with baited breath for the moment that we would achieve the much heralded herd immunity that would mean that our nation would be free from the scourge of Covid.
This aspect of the report was discontinued in April of this year, a month that saw a Covid wave peaking at around 7% of the population of the U.K. concurrently infected with Covid.
The UKHSA’s final graph of vaccine coverage in that April 2022 report showed that uptake had flatlined for most age groups.

Did the UKHSA finally stop publishing the vaccine update graphs in their Vaccine Surveillance Report because they had ceased to serve their purpose? The lack of any significant increase in vaccination uptake would surely be interpreted by the ‘vaccine hesitant’ that there were significant numbers who like them were also resolute in their determination to avoid the Covid vaccines. Nevertheless, the vaccine coverage data live on in the national flu and COVID-19 surveillance reports. I find this shift to a new venue rather odd, because while I could accept that a report on vaccine surveillance might include vaccine coverage, there’s less reason for it to be included in a report on disease incidence. Even odder is that while the UKHSA devotes 13 pages out of 84 (15%) on coverage of the Covid vaccines, there’s only 1½ pages devoted to coverage of the influenza vaccines. I’d have thought that the influenza vaccine uptake data would be equally as important as the Covid vaccine uptake data in a ‘flu and COVID-19 surveillance’ report. We’re currently hearing ever more frantic noises about the importance of getting both the bivalent boosters and the influenza vaccine. Indeed, there are already desperate warnings being made about the severity of the incoming flu season (indeed, they’re hyping it as a ‘tripledemic’ of Covid, influenza and RSV). I’m sure that if this turns out to be as brutal as they claim then it will be blamed on poor take-up of the influenza vaccine.
I’ve already touched on the fact that the initial cries for all to be vaccinated were based on achieving herd immunity. This was based on ‘science’, given that effective vaccines that reduce the risk of infection to near zero do offer the means to dramatically reduce the prevalence of a disease to near zero once the herd immunity threshold has been reached. In late 2020 this aspect of the Covid vaccination strategy was discussed in a paper by world expert (and former Chief Scientific Officer of the U.K. Ministry of Defence) Professor Roy Anderson. In this paper he discussed how herd immunity might be gained, the impact of a short duration of immunity (as short as 18 months of near complete protection!) and how the vaccines might be targeted to different parts of the population. Of particular note in this paper are the recommendation for an extended period of rigorous vaccine surveillance:
Phase 3 trials will tell us about efficacy and safety, but well designed phase 4 trials [robust trials and monitoring of data when vaccines/medicines are given approval and given to the general public] are essential based on representative and large numbers of those vaccinated and follow up over time. These studies will record any serious adverse events and identify whether repeatedly exposed individuals acquire coronavirus infections, particularly SARS-CoV-2, and if they do, what is the severity of disease. These cohort-based longitudinal studies will need careful planning and sustained funding, probably from governments with industry contributing. These studies should be targeted at those vaccinated in high-risk groups, such as the individuals older than 70 years and those with co-morbidities that predispose to severe disease.
Of course, these rigorous studies are conspicuous by their absence, with mainly lower quality ‘observational’ studies having been undertaken. It is surprising that so many senior scientists in the U.K. and worldwide have remained quiet about the lack of rigour of Government sponsored studies into the impact of the vaccines. These individuals have also remained quiet about the value in striving to achieve very high vaccination rates if the vaccines don’t offer protection from infection (no herd immunity possible) and at best only offer protection from hospitalisation or death (both very low risks for the non-vulnerable population).
Alas, it turned out that the vaccines haven’t offered meaningful protection from infection, and thus onward transmission, and ‘herd immunity’ is a phrase that appears to have entered the memory-hole. The appeals to ‘get vaccinated’ slowly changed from ‘protect yourself’ to ‘protect granny’ and then to ‘protect the NHS’, without any real explanation to the public as to why these messages had to change. I have given up thinking that it is odd that our authorities haven’t apologised to all those who took the experimental vaccines only ‘to protect others’ – indeed, the situation is actually that the vaccines were rolled out to achieve herd immunity and it is only by a fluke that they’ve turned out to offer some protection against hospitalisation and death (if indeed this is the case; there’s even evidence that the vaccines are making hospitalisation and death from Covid more likely). Our authorities are, of course, very keen to tell everyone that the vaccines were always intended to achieve this end result, even with very little evidence from the original vaccine trials that this was occurring.
I sometimes wonder why anyone under the age of 60 or so is getting vaccinated at the moment. I believe that it might be a vaccination inertia effect, where people are simply doing what they did before without bothering to ask themselves why they’re doing it. Perhaps this vaccination inertia effect will cease soon. Then again, there’s also the ‘would have been worse if I’d been unvaccinated’ effect, in which healthy, non-vulnerable individuals get to spend several days feeling truly rotten every time they get infected with Covid, but are thankful that they’re not in hospital. I’m sure that the ‘would have been worse’ individuals are surprised that any unvaccinated individuals have survived this Covid pandemic at all. That reminds me of the survey undertaken in 2020 where the surveyed population believed that 7% of the U.K. population had died of (or with) Covid, whereas the reality was less than 0.1% of the population had died, and this was heavily biased towards the most elderly and other vulnerable, which is relevant because it highlights that most of the population weren’t at high risk from Covid in the first place. Again, it has been forgotten that so many people were misled, and that official sources of information didn’t try to rectify this misunderstanding at the time.
My final point on the the vaccination uptake data is perhaps the most important aspect that should be discussed, although it isn’t actually about the numbers vaccinated, but about how many people in the U.K. remain unvaccinated? The data that we have on the numbers vaccinated are probably fairly robust (albeit there are questions surrounding those that paid to get their vaccine passport without getting vaccinated, or whether there were those that had contacts in the NHS who could ‘pretend’ to inject them with ‘their free dose’). However, the question of the number that are unvaccinated at any point in time is much more complex to answer. On the face of it, this appears simple – those in the population who aren’t vaccinated are the unvaccinated ones. The problem is that we don’t seem to have a good understanding of how many people there are in the U.K. Most official estimates use the population estimate provided by the Office for National Statistics, based on returns from the 2020 census plus a modelled estimate of how the population might have changed since that point. However, this estimate appears to be lower than other estimates of the population’s size – for example, the number of people in England aged over 18 is estimated by the ONS to be approximately 44,450,000 (estimate from July 2022), while the number registered with the NHS aged over 18 and who are eligible to receive a vaccine dose is approximately 50,850,000 (also from July 2022). What’s more, some independent parties estimate an even higher population – from supermarket estimates based on the quantity of food sold to estimates from water-companies based on how much faeces that food turns into, estimates of the population size stubbornly keep on exceeding the ONS’s estimate. Quite how we have such a poor estimate of the population of the U.K. is beyond me – you’d think it would be highly important when it comes to many aspects of managing the U.K., from the provision of social services to planning how many roads we need to have. Nevertheless, this is the situation we find ourselves in – perhaps our Government finds it convenient to have unreliable data on the population size?
While this difference in population estimate might appear to only have a small impact on the estimates of the numbers remaining unvaccinated in the U.K., it becomes important given the very high proportion of the population that have received a dose of Covid vaccine. For example, the NHS reported that it had given 3,290,155 first doses of Covid vaccine (of all types) to those in England aged between 60 and 64 by the end of June 2022:
- The NHS NIMS estimated that there were 3,626,033 individuals in this age category at that time, leaving 335,878 unvaccinated (or about 10% of the population in this age group).
- The ONS estimated that there were 3,196,813 individuals in this age category. This resulted in the embarrassing situation where there were 93,342 more individuals vaccinated than were in the population. The NHS got around this problem by simply stating that 100% of the population in this age group were vaccinated and kept quiet about the details.
This uncertainty in the number of unvaccinated in the population has impact far beyond simply making the population believe that most people were vaccinated, and thus possibly encouraging the undecided to join the majority in being vaccinated. Many of the official measures of how well the vaccines were doing used the lower estimate (based on ONS data) of the population size, and thus estimated a very low number of unvaccinated. This had the effect of making Covid cases, hospitalisations and deaths appear to be occurring at much higher rates in the unvaccinated than was probably the case – results that have been enthusiastically promulgated in reports of vaccine effectiveness by our various authorities. This impact of uncertainty in the number of unvaccinated has been covered in many blog posts, but possibly the most rigorous assessment of the problem has been covered by Professor Norman Fenton in his various scientific papers and blog posts – they’re well worth a read.
In my next post I’ll discuss an aspect of the vaccine that appears to be a direct consequence of high vaccination levels – the rise of the Covid variants.
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Because if they did, they’d be pleading guilty, in the eyes of the Courts that will end up dealing with claims for damages? Ask a barrister.
Everyone has been negatively affected by this — from the overzealous lockdowns, poorly researched vaccines and the fact that the virus was almost certainly lab-made in the first place.
There’ll be plenty of calls for damages, but in a situation where everyone has been negatively impacted can this really occur?
Ie, if everyone gets damages, and everyone has to pay for the damages, is there any net result?
I think Pfizer might have some spare cash; sadly not enough to go round, but it would be a start. Bill Gates, probably a few other billionaires who have been complicit. We could freeze Chinese assets but sadly we seem to depend on them for cheap shit products.
Are (the corrupt) Pfizer going to get a windfall tax then? Sino?
Decoupling from China would be a priority for real UK Conservatives – but obviously not for Sino Sunak.
Your last question made me review the definition of ‘insurance’! However, the likely outcome of damages claims is that the level of settlement depends on the situation of each claimant. If it succeeded, it could have the effect of levelling out the wealth of certain suspects, if they had to dish out cash to a large majority. In extremis, it could be that a government had to create the equivalent of “war bonds” that would have the long term effect of transferring the cost to future generations.
A cynic might note that they have already done that transfer, in effect, so damages claim settlements with victims is still justifiable from an ethical perspective, and would be a lesson for future potential culprits.
“Quite how we have such a poor estimate of the population of the UK is beyond me”
It isn’t beyond me: they don’t want us to know how rapidly population replacement has been happening since 1997, and especially how it has increased under Conservative governments elected on promises to hugely reduce immigration.
(This massive population growth through immigration overwhelmingly from countries with much lower per capita emissions of CO2 also demonstrates that they don’t believe that there is a climate crisis.)
Spot on – three downvotes already, must have touched a nerve!
In government, it is convenient not to know things that would prove inconvenient.
As a scientist, what amazes me is that there’s no consideration of the full impact of immigration for a country — from impacts on labour to the potential for the negative impacts of immigration to encourage anti-immigration feelings in the population.
I’d like to have seen predictions of how immigration might impact on housing and social provision. I’d like to have seen research on the maximum levels of immigration that could be ‘tolerated’ by a community before there was a negative reaction. None of this work has been done (or, at least, it hasn’t been used to inform policy).
What we have seen is the use of some quite clever social manipulation techniques to quash any dissent from policies that accept (even encourage) immigration to the UK.
I doesn’t amaze me. In fact it’s consistent with the behaviour of the political class in most rich world countries, many of whom seem very determined to make sure mass immigration continues. What amazes me is how more people haven’t seen this and protested loudly – but they will be apathetic until it’s too late.
You’ve reminded me of this news item I read recently here. I hadn’t even heard of the so-called “replacement theory” and didn’t know that people who held such attitudes were talking about an actual thing. Yes it has become an issue in many countries and has for years now. Certainly no sign of it abating here in the NL either. The farmers feel it’s one of the reasons the government wants to kick them off their land and the nitrogen cobblers is just a ruse. We’ve a desperate housing shortage here with the increase in population numbers.
https://nltimes.nl/2022/11/07/normalization-great-replacement-population-theory-troubling-dutch-counter-terror-office
I have not come across ‘replacement theory’ previously but given the wholly unfettered borders in the UK I consider the suggestion wholly reasonable.
“replacement theory” is a far-right white nationalist conspiracy theory according to Wikipedia.
Ah yes, that impartial oracle that is Wiki! haha
Government science was dismantled long ago now. Last rites was probably the privatisation of the Defence Evaluation and Research Agency back in 2001.
I assume government won’t learn the lessons of Switzerland any more than they will learn the lessons of Sweden.
…bit of repetition from me but read this, it might help….
UK Census will be using ‘experimental estimates’ in the future to show the number of people born outside of the UK! (Looks like a new job for Imperial College..LOL)
It used to be calculated from HM Revenue and Customs (MWS Migrant Workers Scan) linked to Pay As You Earn….they are now saying that system has ‘issues’, and so they won’t use it anymore….
They don’t admit it in so many words, but I don’t think they have any real idea how many migrants there are….which is shocking but not entirely surprising…
https://www.ons.gov.uk/news/statementsandletters/statementonpopulationoftheukbycountryofbirthandnationalityseries
Good grief, killing the unborn back in the 60s was sold as limiting the migrant population. It should be obvious that such venal people do not deliver.
What I am certain about is that there are less than 100% of the individuals in England in the 60 – 64 age group that have used the product. How many there are, who knows?
At least less than 90% as per the NIMS data.
Herd immunity – and by that I mean the pre WHO definition change – will never be achieved until and unless a sufficiently high percent of the population have immunity achieved naturally from prior exposure/infection. NOT “vaccinating” kids will help achieve this.
It is a fallacy that virus always mutate to become automatically in themselves more transmissible and less virulent.
The classic Gompertz seasonal infection curve is more a product of herd immunity being achieved as a result of virus becoming more prevalent in dry cold weather and a lack of Vitamin D3 and K in the population. As winter progresses more become infected and herd immunity is thus achieved.
See Geert Vanden Bossche. Vaccinating a populace in the middle of a “pandemic” with a leaky/none sterilising vaccine is insane.
So, that help explain why covid is still very prevalent – and why the jabbed get repeat infections.
Sadly this may well be only the start of their problems :-
. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027869152200206X
I look forward to your next article re this Amanuensis, thank you.
Herd immunity won’t happen because too many have knackered their immune systems by being jabbed but also I’d argue that herd immunity isn’t even relevant anymore. Just as we haven’t achieved herd immunity for other viruses, those that cause common colds and even influenza, for instance. It’s not unusual for people to get a few colds throughout the year, especially if they’re feeling run down and their immune systems are functioning below par, which applies to many of us throughout our lives. The fact of the matter is that this Covid thing is now endemic, like hundreds of other lurgies we co-exist with, it’s not going to be eradicated, and if we keep testing for it we’ll keep finding for it. Same as if they invented a PCR test for rhinovirus etc. Who gives a flying fig what it morphs into and what name they decide to stick on it? It’s beyond ridiculous now! This virus can rival the ‘Alphabet People’ in the amount of letters the damn thing is going through! We’re up to BQ something or other now aren’t we? People will always catch a cold or random lurgy, get a snotty nose and cough and that’ll be… Read more »
Agreed.
And the same re your take below on vaccines generally.
The only good thing to come out of this is that more and more people will question even none mRNA “vaccines”.
http://vaccinepapers.org/
Herd immunity assumptions and Roy Anderson’s idiocy, which they seem to have followed slavishly, were and are based upon a 100% immunity providing vaccine efficiency.
A lesser one, or even a negative one, them makes it mathematically and realistically impossible to ever achieve it.
Bartram explained that very well in his excellent piece about HI from November 21.
https://bartram.substack.com/p/the-never-ending-quest-for-herd-immunity
Thanks for the link. Herd immunity is nice and simple where there’s sterilising immunity, either from prior infection or via an effective vaccine.
However, it was clear by the end of 2020 that sterilising immunity wasn’t going to happen. Indeed, our experience with prior coronaviruses (colds) and other respiratory infections is that herd immunity is unlikely to be achieved.
They proceeded with their plans of universal vaccination anyway.
Well, natch. I sincerely doubt anyone in power actually believed herd immunity would or could be reached – in NL the public health authority told the government it could not make such claims as there was no data to back this up. Didn’t stop them of course.
The reason for proceeding with universal vaxxing was twofold – one, obviously, the glorious, eye-watering mountains of money involved – with no liability for the producers and, if the leaked supply contracts are to be believed, an obligation on the part of governments to keep buying the garbage even if it turned out they were useless, even if better products came on the market. Add to this a great likelihood that percentages of those multiple billions were ‘shared’ with political decision makers, and the reason for universal
poisoningvaxxing is only too obvious.The second reason is the criminal desire of the pharma industry and the
MengelesFaucis of this world to trial their mrna, for free, with no liability, on hundreds of millions of people, despite its long trial history of being too toxic for use.“the criminal desire of the pharma industry and the Mengeles Faucis of this world to trial their mrna, for free”
I don’t believe there was a trial. The “vaccines” were brewed to a recipe or recipes and the likes of Fraudci and Billy knew pretty well the likely outcomes.
The depopulation agenda is not a trial run and was never intended to be such.
You forgot about the depopulation aspect. This appears to be a primary objective given the “countermeasures” have not been pulled despite irrefutable evidence of both ineffectiveness and dire safety issues which just keep on getting worse, as the increase in excess non-Covid mortality demonstrates. There’s the small fact that the regulators all over just sit on their hands because they are nothing but dummy entities giving sham approvals/authorizations, when evidence has revealed that it’s all down to the US HHS secretary as to what gets rolled out and when. Now they have the mRNA platform they are free to deploy any tweaked or brand new vax they so wish, no clinical trials necessary. Case in point; which regulator anywhere in the world has ever approved a vaccine based on data from a handful of rodents? And those rodents even managed to contract Covid but the jabs were approved anyway! Even the clinical trials are a complete sham and are so ridiculously poor that they can’t even pass as the most basic tick box exercise. Why else would Pfizer want their data hidden for 75 years? Surely another demonstration of unprecedented dodgy behaviour, which is saying something when it comes to… Read more »
One of the things that has surprised me from reading “Turtles All the Way Down” is that the Covid jabs are by no means unusual in not preventing people from passing on infection. In fact most of the vaccines on the standard schedule don’t do this which completely negates the argument for mandating vaccination to protect others. This is one of several vaccination myths that pharma and their bought-and-paid-for chums in the government agencies have succesfully promoted to the public.
Yep, agreed. Vaccines for respiratory viruses have never had a good success rate. And that wasn’t going to change this time round just because they used new technology, which does rather confirm that they wanted us all jabbed not to give us any kind of immunity from a “novel virus”, but for reasons altogether more nefarious. So we can talk about the lack of efficacy of these jabs until the cows come home but that wasn’t the intention from the get-go, as has been proven left, right and centre now. I’m also questioning all other vaccines and have zero trust of Big Pharma now. I’m midway through a doc on the HPV vaccine ( Gardasil ), as that is next on my kid’s schedule. It’s both unnecessary and unsafe so no way am I going there. They’ve used aluminium as an adjuvant in vaccines for 100 years but the aluminium complex in this particular one is different and much more toxic. And all for a disease, cervical cancer, that is next to no risk for girls or young women. Breast cancer is much more prevalent in working age women than cervical cancer. It’s all a big con and all about… Read more »
…..I agree Mogs…I keep starting sentences with, I’m not an anti vaxer but…I think I am becoming more and more anti-vaccine in reality, or I’m definitely looking into them more (and finding them wanting..)
I too have looked at HPV, mainly because a relative told me her 13 year old had just had it….and like you, I can’t see any real reason why it’s on the child schedule.
Cervical cancer is, luckily, highly treatable. It isn’t a big killer, as you say, and there are no more women dying of it today than in the 1990’s as far as I can find out….1997 1150 deaths, currently it hovers around 1000….
if you have the vaccine you still have to have cervical smear tests….HPV is predominantly sexually transmitted….and there are some horrible side-effects to the vaccine….
All in all, better to have a talk with sons and daughters about sexual health and behaviour, in my opinion…
The HPV vax push is getting worse – first it was only geared to girls, now, realising they can double sales, they are targeting boys. My best friend lives in Spain, she has an 11-year old son and his school was recently seeking authorisation from parents to inject this stuff. One of the selling points was that otherwise these young men might give their future wives cancer. Charming sales pitch.
I read up on Gardasil after my friend told me this, the story sounds strangely familiar – touted as ‘safe and effective’ with very little data to go on. As you say, cervical smears are still needed (and might be avoided by those who believe being jabbed protects them) and I would say the number of cancers avoided is debatable. It can take 10 years or more for such cancers to develop, I shouldn’t have thought enough time had gone by to make this determination. Add to this they don’t know how long the protection lasts and whether more pokes would be needed.
Whenever they use those kinds of emotive selling-points, it immediately makes me suspicious!
Bit like making kids think they were ‘killing granny’…!
Who the frick wants to scare children like that and put that emotional burden onto them?
This is a useful link, which I bookmarked…to Robert F Kennedy’s Children’s Health Defense…it shows links for a lot of studies on HPV….(which are practically impossible to find via search engine!?)
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/research_category/hpv-gardasil/
I am now a fully converted anti- vaxxer and I will proudly admit this to anybody. “Vaccines” are a ‘whole of industry’ con job. Shame on medical professionals for going along with this crap.
I am also now wholly and unreservedly against the pharmacology industry. Unfortunately, I am stuck with some prescriptions but am fully aware I need to ditch them after due research.
As somebody pointed out recently we don’t pay taxes to support the good running of our nation we pay taxes simply to enrich a few who consider it their right to empty our pockets whenever it suits.
Mugged off doesn’t get close.
Yes same here. Well you’d have to be thick as the proverbial to be against these Covid jabs but totally onboard with all other vaccines. I don’t see how you can possibly be ‘awake’ for one product but not now question all other products made by these criminal and corrupt organizations. And one thing which seems to have been normalized, including with these Covid jabs, but seems totally fraudulent to me is that, in clinical trials, vaccines seem to not be tested against a placebo. I don’t know, perhaps the word “placebo” is yet another word that has been bastardized or redefined when nobody was looking. In the Gardasil trial, the participants were told that half would get the vaccine and half would get a saline placebo, but they wouldn’t know who got what. Turns out that the placebo group did not get the inert saline shot that they got told they would, but they got the same aluminium compound which is in the vaccines. So some of the girls got ill or disabled, even though they took the “placebo”. How is this allowed? It’s a blatant attempt to make the vax look less bad, as opposed to *really* bad,… Read more »
Again, referring to Turtles, let us consider the number of vaccines that have been tested against an inert placebo – that number is zero. Not a one. And lets look at all those published studies comparing vaccinated against unvaccinated – again can you guess what that number is? Well done. Zero again.
Thanks Mogs.👍
Down under, we continue to listen to technocrats in the pocket of Big Pharma, with no one asking any questions.
Prof Robert Clancy is one of our most highly credentialed mucosal pathologists, yet never gets asked for his opinion by the MSM.
https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/covidiocy/2022/11/the-problem-with-the-covid-narrative/
That’s a really good article by Robert, thanks for linking it — it is well worth a read. It explains how the immune response resulting from Covid infection is much more complex than has been suggested by nearly all reporting in the MSM, ‘information articles’ (propaganda) by the NHS and other agencies, and by our politicians.
Excellent article..of course, sadly, it isn’t telling us anything that we didn’t know from the many (mostly unheard) experts we have been listening to throughout….which is a shocking indictment…
”Under camouflage of a pandemic, a different form of medical care was imposed on Western society. This in a manner outside of all the honed and traditional norms of clinical practise: the rule of science, and the doctor-patient relationship based on informed consent.”
How very true.
Good article. Thanks for posting.
At the end, this made me shudder:
Longer-term disease possibilities that must be investigated further include integration of spike protein genetic coding into DNA, and prion sequences within spike protein that may cause amyloid deposition in neural tissue
WTF have we done?
Indeed and it’s a great shame that hardly anyone seems to be aware of the great work done by Sir Macfarlane Burnet, Nobel prize for Immunology, who lamented the passing of the study of immunology due to the rise of genetic engineering.
He considered that even orthodox mass vaccination could be adversely affecting children and that in time scientists would have to re assess the assumed benefits of artificial immunity induced by vaccination.
See the comments by Rosross re Prof Robert Clancy’s article.
I wonder what Sir Macfarlane would make of our miraculous new mRNA “vaccines”…..
They lied from the start and knew they were lying, they are not going to stop now.
Some lied. Most are just scientific illiterates who were easily bamboozled by the pharma companies. Beyond that, all politicians have a ‘saviour complex’, ie, they think they’ll improve their public standing if everyone thinks they’ve saved them.
Of course, now that the problems are starting to emerge they’re also very willing to lie to keep the public’s praise coming (or at least to stop the public hating them, which would be the end of a politician’s career).
We have laws in place to protect whistleblowers, and to punish organisations that suppress information (delete records, silence criticism, etc) that emerges showing that they’ve been negligent — governments seem to be immune to these laws.
“We have laws in place to protect whistleblowers, and to punish organisations that suppress information (delete records, silence criticism, etc) that emerges showing that they’ve been negligent — governments seem to be immune to these laws.”
The entire panoply of checks and balances failed, globally. No political opposition, no scrutiny from journalists, no pushback from the judiciary, nor the military, nor heads of state, nor the unions, nor academia, nor any other institutions, professional bodies, public figures. Not here, not anywhere (well, with a tiny number of exceptions). And little pushback from the general population. Laws don’t really help if no-one is interested in enforcing them and almost everyone has an incentive to ignore them because they have been complicit. Scandals are only uncovered and seen as scandals because there’s an “other side” who have an incentive to uncover them. But there’s no “other side” with covid, aside from a few brave outliers and us nutjob conspiracy theorists.
..You are entirely right TOF….I have seen scores of stuff from Canada, Australia, USA and Germany to name a few…..all continuing with the same mis-truths, dodgy science and lies this winter…and they KNOW they are lies….
Class.
there are questions surrounding those that paid to get their vaccine passport without getting vaccinated, or whether there were those that had contacts in the NHS who could ‘pretend’ to inject them with ‘their free dose’
Indeed. I’ve heard lots of stories regarding this, suggesting that phantom stabbing is indeed prevalent. Don’t know what to make of them though, or how much to believe.
Anyone heard the same or got any views?
We’ll never know the full scale of this ‘problem’.
..apparently the unvaccinated Joel Smalley was shocked to find that his NHS App showed him as being double quacksinated…..I think he mentioned it on his substack.
How many people are unstabbed?
If we are to believe the narrative, in rough handfuls it’s about 10% or a little less.
Totally unscientific of course, but in my experience based on my background – white, middle class, above average formal academic educational qualifications – 10% is probably an overestimate, from what people are admitting that is.
I know the demographic I describe is more likely to be stabbed, and that >90 stabbed may indeed be correct. But if we are to suggest that, say 20%, of the total population is unstabbed, then some demographics must be down at remarkably low levels of MHRA poisoning.
Anyone else got any thoughts?
Population surveys in the UK seem to suggest that between 20% and 30% of the adult population is unvaccinated — see the link to Prof Fenton’s blog that I posted in the article.
I suggest that part of the problem with your background experience is that people are reluctant to advertise that they’re unvaccinated, due to the extreme views that are often held by many in the population. Indeed, IME it is commonplace for people to lie about their vaccine status (pretend that they’re vaccinated) in order to have a social life.
I don’t lie, I just keep quiet. Most people seem keen to advertise they’ve been vaccinated – 4 times vaccinated, a neighbour told us last night, then said he’d never had Covid so he’s definitely a fan of vaccines. My OH and I got Covid for the first time in October this year so that deflects the vaccine conversation although vaccines and Covid have been displaced in the conversation hierarchy but the cost of living crisis.
Because they daren’t admit ANY culpability for the disaster they’ve created.
They’re trying the Forgive and Forget strategy …. but we never will.
As I’ve proposed in an earlier article, we need to have a ‘truth and reconciliation’ process — IMO this is the only way we’ll get the truth about the disaster that’s been the last 3 years.
..that pre-supposes ‘they’ care about the truth…I don’t think anything we know shows that they give a damn…in many countries the whole circus is in full swing, masks, jabs, etc etc….
I want to believe it could happen though…..
Can’t see it happening. The politicians may be able to get away with saying they didn’t know what they were talking about, but the medical community spent 3 years authoritatively barking out orders that contradicted each other on almost a daily basis, that were contrary to decades of knowledge of how to deal with respiratory viruses and that were in essence made up on the fly.
Admitting to that will undermine confidence in the medical community more than it already is. They will certainly never admit that they have been intentionally and steadfastly ignoring the glaring red warning signals that existed from the very beginning of the vaxx rollout.
I agree — we’ve got a terrible combination of bad/ignorant leadership plus the policing bodies being the same as those that made the mistakes. Nevertheless, I’ll continue to beat the drum for a ‘truth and reconciliation’ process because I believe that the truth will come out eventually, and the longer it takes for those in power to ‘come clean’ the messier it will be when the truth comes out.
Absolutely, the truth will out – I just reckon they plan for that to happen when they release the Kennedy files, which I think is planned for the week after the first day of never. Seriously though, evidence of just how toxic these shots were is mounting by the day, there is more and more research going on (always mentioning the mantra “the vaxxes still saved millions of lives”) proving this. I suspect the myocarditis issue is far worse than they want to admit and we will see ongoing problems with that for some years to come. Partly because there may well be ongoing spike protein production for long periods of time in some people (maybe even on and off, who knows – hey, let’s do some 10-year trials and find out) and partly because I can imagine that damage that at this point may not be too severe in someone young may cause problems over the long term. (Disclaimer: this is pure conjecture on my part, only time will tell – difference between me and big pharma is I’m saying it’s conjecture rather than making any claim of fact, like safe and effective.) Scientists and medical workers and public… Read more »
Myocarditis is definitely much worse than they’d ever admit officially, and it certainly isn’t “rare” or “only mild”. Just in this one hospital they are seeing 27 kids with it in a 6 week period whereas pre-Covid times they’d see just 2. Now imagine this extrapolated to many hospitals across the world.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/myocarditis-in-kids-under-18-cases
What would motivate the culprits to take part? They won the war, or at least the battle. Vast majority of people in rich countries got vaxxed and believe the vaxx saved them, most people believe covid was an emergency and that lockdowns were either necessary or an understandable reaction. Everybody powerful who would normally stand to gain by exposing the truth of malfeasance is in it up to their necks and indeed embrace covidianism. This is NOT a normal situation in which Party A commits some terrible crime in which Party B was not involved so Party B can use it to their advantage. Most of all the public themselves may not really want to hear the truth because it means they are all chumps who’ve been had.
From the John Snow Memorandum….
“This has understandably led to widespread demoralisation and diminishing trust. The arrival of a second wave and the realisation of the challenges ahead has led to renewed interest in a so-called herd immunity approach, which suggests allowing a large uncontrolled outbreak in the low-risk population while protecting the vulnerable. Proponents suggest this would lead to the development of infection-acquired population immunity in the low-risk population, which will eventually protect the vulnerable. This is a dangerous fallacy unsupported by scientific evidence.”
Have they apologised to the public? To the authors of The Great Barrington Declaration?
All the people who signed it should have to explain themselves shouldn’t they?
” It is surprising that so many senior scientists in the U.K. and worldwide have remained quiet about the lack of rigour of Government sponsored studies into the impact of the vaccines.”
Really? Surely there is plenty of reason to suppose that most of these scientists are venal people with vested interests – and therefore not particularly surprising.
The govt and SAGE will no doubt claim they had no time for extended trials, so had to ‘deliver’ them to the population immediately, regardless. Talk about playing with peoples lives, pushing forward ‘on a wing and a prayer’. The unforgivable fact is though that the govt had plenty of expert advice about alternative courses, namely early intervention therapeutics, but deliberately and purposely ignored them. Unless they were so naïve that they believed BigPharma, there could only be nefarious reasons for their action based on vested interests, i.e. £££££.
There has ben talk of an ‘amnesty’ in the media, but I do not see any kind of remorse, humility or learning from these evil people, so no, no amnesty. The lives of future generations, our children, are too precious to allow this to happen again.