British Public Falls Out of Love With the NHS
People no longer believe the NHS will treat them quickly if they fall ill, according to a new poll which shows widespread dissatisfaction about the state of the health service. The Sunday Times has more.
With hundreds of ambulances stacked outside overstretched A&E departments and patients languishing on record waiting lists, voters are far more likely to say the service has worsened than improved in the last year.
Fifty-eight per cent are not confident they would receive timely treatment from the NHS if they fell ill tomorrow, with 36% not confident at all and 22% just not confident. Meanwhile, 45% believe the service they receive has worsened in the past 12 months. Just over half think it has become harder to get an appointment with their local doctor while 41% think their local GP service has worsened.
The poll, by YouGov for the Sunday Times, comes as Steve Barclay, the Health Secretary, reveals a blueprint to address the crisis. He is spearheading the recruitment of 20,000 nurses from Sri Lanka and India, with more staff brought in to deal with the social care crisis.
He has been in discussion with the Home Office about reducing visa fees to help smooth the passage for the new arrivals, who will be filling roles included in the government’s shortage occupation list. Ministers will also set up a “clearing house” to match foreign workers with jobs in care homes to streamline the recruitment process. Recruiting overseas is supported by almost three quarters of voters, according to the YouGov poll.
Barclay also wants to give social care staff a pay rise to avert a winter crisis by plugging gaps in the workforce. There are 165,000 job vacancies in the social care sector as staff quit to work in better-paid jobs stacking shelves in supermarkets or working in hospitality. He is understood to be recommending an immediate increase in the national living wage to £10.32 an hour, rising to £10.50 from April.
Barclay is not expected to remain in post after the new prime minister is appointed but the new poll makes clear the next inhabitant of 10 Downing St will need a plan to tackle the NHS if voters are to back them to stay.
The decline in support for the service has been swift. When it celebrated its 70th birthday in 2018, nine out of 10 members of the public said they supported the founding principle of the NHS with more than three quarters of people backing it being maintained in its current form. Two years ago, the streets were lined every Thursday with people clapping for the health service with rainbow posters in the windows of the houses behind them.
The pandemic has been blamed for causing waiting lists to balloon to almost 6.8 million people but the NHS has been struggling to meet its targets for years. There were 4.4 million people waiting before Covid hit and the last time the main target to treat most patients within 18 weeks of being referred by a GP was achieved was in February 2016. The last time the NHS hit the four-hour waiting time target for A&E patients was July 2015.
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Start the damned clearout. There are thousands of non-jobs that need to be completely eradicated. Forever. All non-medical wokery must be permanently banished.
Unfortunately, the mind set amongst NHS staff is seriously warped and the vast majority are wholly convinced of their own propoganda.
Many doctors are hopeless but believe they are God’s gift as they write out another script. Too many of them are simply drug pushers. Hubris infects just about every grade.
And why on earth are we encouraging Immigration by the back door? It is deeply immoral to be stripping third world countries – yes, we will soon be one – of their health care staff. Are we really expected to believe we cannot train our own ?
“education, education, education,” eh Tone?
There is nothing to commend Stephen Barclay’s proposals, in fact they are short-term and shameful; is that the level of innovative parliamentary thinking?
The NHS is all but dead and nobody wants to pronounce on it nor put forward some original ideas for a replacement.
This country really is “Lost in Space.”
If only it were dead. It’s like a growing cancer that idevours ever more tax money and provides an an ever worsening service.
Same as the entire tax payer funded sector(s)
Zebra crossings at the RUH in Bath now “Rainbow” crossings, with a sign reading
“Cross with Pride”
which my wife wants to change to “Very cross with Pride”
😀 😀 😀
My understanding is that since 2013 all new nurses in the UK have to have a degree.
Is that the case with nurses that we steal from abroad?
Option 1
Vast efficiency improvements (I could write paragraphs).
Option 2 (also)
Convince the clientele that they need to take FAR BETTER CARE OF THEMSELVES before submitting to NHS provision.
There are no other options.
Scavenging workers from 2nd world countries is immoral. Piling (printing) more money onto institutionalised inefficiency is unethical. De-academisation of nursing toward apprenticeship might be a step in the right direction, but that’s the tip of an iceberg.
My prognosis: those with money will have private hips/knees/hernias/dental-implants…… Everyone else:join the back of a 6 million queue. I’m sorry for those who thought the NHS would be “there for them” but my experience is that this simply isn’t true.
I’ve spent £240 sending my 85 year old Dad to a private GP in the last couple of weeks and my folks have spent another £330 on tests for him. We don’t have private insurance and we were driven to raiding our savings. The NHS GP he saw before we went private just sat there typing and asking ‘Y/N’ questions that popped up on his computer and barely looked at my Dad’s badly swollen leg. Finally, my Dad was prescribed two drugs that subsequently made him violently ill. When I looked up the drugs for interactions online, I found the NHS, NICE and NIH websites all warn not to co-prescribe the drugs to elderly people, because of the risk of death due to the combination leading to toxicity. At an emergency NHS GP appointment the next day, after being kept waiting a hour, an arrogant young doctor waved away the issue and made my Dad feel like an old fool, before kicking him and my Mum out of the door after ten minutes. He didn’t even look at Dad’s leg; he just sat there typing and asking things like ‘How much better does your leg feel from 0% to 100%’… Read more »
I can’t fault your case Dom.
I know for a fact that there are people within the NHS who are prepared to speak candidly who will not disagree with most of what you’ve written, nor be surprised at your dad’s experience.
UNHERD
https://unherd.com/2022/08/dont-go-to-ae/
“Don’t go to A&EAs a doctor, I suggest you go private insteadBY EMMA JONES“
Wholeheartedly agree with everything you write and I hope your dad is on the mend.
I had a much worse experience with my mum since May 2019. But that’s a story for some articles I am writing (very slowly) – that and everything else since March 2020…
‘More money, more staff’ is the mantra that has got us here. The rot began to set in when it began to see itself as the National Wellness Service, and the National Social Justice Service. It is heaving under the weight of layer upon layer of management and non-jobs, and of drug based solutions and fixed care pathways.
We now call it the National Harm Service
Perhaps if the government hadn’t mandated clot shots for care home workers there wouldn’t be such a shortage.
In Australia we have “Medicare”, our version of the NHS, or private health.
Medicare pays a proportion of our out-of-hospital fees as well as all hospital treatment for the uninsured.
The public hospital system is as broken as the NHS appears to be.
The private hospital system enables those with private insurance to be treated expeditiously and functions well.
A large proportion of Australians choose private insurance.
Some GP’s choose to bill patients the Medicare rebate only- these consultations are usually rushed and of poorer quality.
Those willing or able to pay a premium usually find a better quality GP service.
All patients are free to choose or change their GP at any stage.
So paying twice (once voluntarily) and using once. Great, innit.
Far from perfect but at least we have a reasonable choice.
“The pandemic has been blamed for causing waiting lists to balloon to almost 6.8 million people…”
It’s sooo tiresome.
It’s the bloody LOCKDOWNS what did it! Closing GP Surgeries! Jabbing people with untested (and now never to be tested) therapeutics! Putting the fear of God into people via 24-7 fear porn! Starving them of oxygen and causing hypercapnia! Making them believe they should stay in their houses endlessly! Destroying their businesses! Destroying their employers’ businesses! Removing all entertainment! Throwing elderly into care and nursing homes from stroke and heart attack wards! Pumping them with Midazolam! Isolating people from each other! The list goes on!
Good God Almighty. And all so perfectly predictable.
India has a shortage of nurses — it is estimated that they need to train an additional 5 million nurses to meet domestic demand by 2025 (IIRC).
Healthcare in Sri Lanka is a mess — there’s a dire shortage of medicines, facilities, doctors and nurses.
Yet for some reason the NHS believes that it is better to steal healthcare staff from India and Sri Lanka rather than train up our own healthcare staff — I don’t understand why this institutional racism is tolerated.
Thank you. Bang on.
Economic imperialism. Indeed, Romania joining the EU destroyed their health system, as GPs and nurses fled abroad where they could earn far higher salaries.
Odd that the Left are so keen on what, I say it again, is no more than economic imperialism.
In 2009 it was decided that by 2013 all nurses had to study for a degree.
That was when some of the rot set in. Most of the best nurses I know are older and would never have got into nursing if they had to reach that level of academic achievement.
Hence many nurses now don’t think nutrition, hydration, bathing and toileting are there job. This leads to them treating patients with no respect for their dignity or basic humanity.
The NHS has taken advantage of public sympathy/support for years and years.
I don’t think they’ll know what’s hit them if they lose this support.
“I don’t think they’ll know what’s hit them if they lose this support.”
They’ve lost it.
20K more people from overseas Wtf ! + all their relatives in due course ! The uk will sink into the sea with the weight of more & more new arrivals .
Pioneering Doctors Persecuted While Hospitals Murdered
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/08/28/the-courage-to-face-covid-19.aspx
It’s like a medical thriller. Pioneering doctors who had the courage to treat COVID and advocate for its treatment were stripped of everything, while hospitals were incentivized with protocols that literally murdered people with no legal ramifications whatsoever.
The Courage to Face COVID-19
Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola
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I don’t have a Times subscription so unable to read the full article, thus only able to comment on what’s above.
It’s not clear to me that we are comparing like with like. It’s clear that confidence in the NHS is dropping and this is not surprising, but there is a reference to a poll from two years ago regarding support for the NHS’ founding principles and it being maintained in its current form – but no reference for the same two questions posed again now. It could be that there has not been much change in attitudes and people simply think more money needs to be spent on it or perhaps improved efficiency – it doesn’t necessarily mean that people are now more likely to think the NHS in its current form should be abandoned.
Downtickers, what’s your point? Where’s the flaw in my argument?