TWICE as Many Vaccine Deaths as Covid Deaths in U.S. Households, Poll Finds
More than twice as many Americans have lost a household member to a Covid vaccine injury as have lost one to Covid.
That’s the shocking finding of a new poll of 1,500 Americans carried out by the polling company Pollfish.
While 3.6% of respondents said someone in their household had died from COVID-19, 7.9% said one had died as a result of Covid vaccination.
The poll also found that 8.5% said they had been injured by their vaccination, 5% that they had sought medical help and 3.3% that they had been hospitalised, the same proportion who said that as a result of vaccination they were no longer able to work a full day or at all. These are percentages of all respondents. If we look only at the 74.3% vaccinated with at least one dose then the figures, as a proportion of vaccinated persons, are 11.5% injured, 6.8% needing medical help, 4.5% hospitalised and 4.5% unable to work. While these figures are self-reported and there is no control group, since the unvaccinated were not asked about adverse events, they are still alarmingly high.
The poll also found that, among those who reported a Covid death in their household, more than twice as many reported that it occurred after the person was vaccinated than before (2.4% vs 1.1%). The proportion who said they had contracted Covid before their vaccination (17.5%) was very similar to the proportion who said they contracted it afterwards (15.7%). These figures are not indicative of a highly effective vaccine against either infection or death.
The people polled were a randomly selected, representative sample of the U.S. public, of whom 74.3% were vaccinated, so the sample was not inherently biased towards or against the reporting of vaccine problems, though as in all opinion polls there may be an issue of self-selection bias.
The poll consisted of a set of three polls of 500 people conducted over the past week and commissioned by technology entrepreneur Steve Kirsch. The summaries of the polls are available here: June 30th, July 2nd, July 4th. The data are available here: June 30th, July 2nd, July 4th. Steve has written about them here and here. He says he is planning a larger poll of 5,000 people.
A selection of the results are displayed in the table below.
The proportion of people in this poll reporting serious vaccine injury is considerably higher than in similar surveys, by a factor of 10 or more, the reason for which is unclear and needs to be investigated. We can do a sense check: there are around 120 million households in the U.S. If 3.6% of them have had a Covid death (as per the survey) then that would give 4.3 million Covid deaths. Official figures show around 1 million Covid deaths in the U.S. This suggests the survey is exaggerating results, perhaps due to a self-selection bias among those who respond.
Nonetheless, these are what the respondents to this poll have reported and should not be quickly dismissed. Governments should be doing far more to look into why polls of the general public – not just this one but those by governments themselves – find high proportions of vaccine recipients reporting serious, debilitating and fatal reactions to the vaccines that governments insist are safe.
Postscript: This article was fact checked by Full Fact, who pointed out that COVID-19 has killed over one million people in the United States, while only a small number of deaths have been reported following vaccination, and a CDC study has found no link between reported deaths and receiving two vaccine doses. You can read that fact check here. Similar objections were made to a follow-up piece by Will Jones reporting on some similar poll findings and we responded to those objections in the Postscript to that piece.
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Meanwhile in Australia our wise leaders have just recommended the fourth dose for everyone over the age of 30.
The murdering barstewards.
On M C Millers sub stack his litany of “sudden deaths” just keeps rolling on. This week , along with the young ones and 60+, there were a tremendous number of 45-55 year olds…
https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/in-memory-of-those-who-died-suddenly-9ae?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCEP.114.002321
Just one channelopathy.
”Catecholaminergic PMVTAffected patients typically present with life-threatening (polymorphic or bidirectional VT or VF) associated with adrenergic stress (physical or emotional; Figure 6). CPVT is rare (estimated at 1/10 000), with SCD as the first presentation in ≤30% of cases.56Mortality is high when untreated, reaching 30% to 50% by age 30.56 CPVT-related symptoms occur early in life and are reported to occur in ≈35% and 72% by the age of 10 and 20, respectively. The mean age at presentation is between 7 and 9 years. An atypical form of CPVT (typically gene negative) may be observed in older patients and seems to be more sporadic.56”
Could somebody translate this please?
Basically the heart pumps due an electric current that starts in the tissue in the upper right region of the heart. This electric impulse works its way down to the lower chambers of the heart causing them to contract. The electric current is generated by changes in the location of Sodium, potassium and calcium ions. These ions cannot move just anywhere they have specific pathways or channels. In Brugada syndrome or other channelopathies there are problems with the operation of these channels causing them to fail or work intermittently. If the channels aren’t working then the electrical impulses causing the heart to beat cannot travel and the heart stops beating, sudden cardiac arrest. These problems are usually genetic but are difficult to identify until something goes wrong, some may be picked up by ECG.
The one I mentioned is present in around 1 child in 10000 to 1 child in 100000. With sudden cardiac death being the only symptom in around 1/3 of these cases. The trigger is the hormonal changes that occur during physical or emotional stress. Thus 1 in 30000 to 1 in 300000 children with this condition can literally drop dead due to stress.
whilst leaving myself open to down ticks I have to ask some questions about this.
First of all the data from ZOE self reporting is considered unreliable as it is self reporting, why is this any different?
The people most likely to respond to this type of survey are those who believe everything that has gone wrong is down to the vaccine, i.e. confirmation bias. Why is this survey any more credible than one that asks whether humans are responsible for climate change?
Where is the pathophysiological evidence?
Finally, are these problems due to the vaccines themselves or are they due to the immune system?
John, I think that Zoe collates data from a number of sources. I subscribe to the app & it does state under Daily new cases & Active cases “based on PCR & LFT data from up to 2 days ago.” I appreciate the issues with reliability of both the PCR & LFT tests which call the numbers into question. However, also at the risk of getting down ticks, over the two years I have completed the app, I have found Tim Spector’s figures pretty accurate in identifying trends even if the daily figures are questionable.
I think it is a projection based on the correlation between reported (via the app) symptomatic people and how many of them go on to test positive. The issue I have with it, as with all “covid” stats, is what the “trend” means. Let’s say that currently “covid” cases actually are rising – the important question is what impact does this have? We’ve never measured this kind of thing before. No-one really knows how many people had flu and colds at a given time of year, so raw numbers or even trends are only useful if the inform decisions and that’s only useful if you take into account the actual impact of the trend. How many people are seriously ill? We just don’t know this stuff – it’s been deliberately obfuscated.
Yes I agree with you. Finding hard evidence about the impact of the trend is practically impossible. I’m assuming here that the stats do exist and are being monitored. However, they only seem to drive existing strategies such as booster vaccinations, masking etc. I think that the big concern is with the NHS, if it is under pressure now (which it is). A nursing friend has told me that our local hospital is already experiencing “winter” levels of pressure which doesn’t bode well for the future. The obvious question is about what is driving winter pressures in the summer months. That is something I can’t know, although I do suspect multiple factors including the effects of lockdown, reluctance or inability of access appropriate medical investigations and of course the elephant in the room – what the negative impact might be of rolling experimental treatments out to a mass audience. Once questions begun to asked by the mainstream media or the scientific establishment then we may get answers. Until then it is up to sceptic sites like this & HART to raise the difficult questions although it does feel somewhat like p……… in the wind.
PCR data is meaningless without knowing the test rate. We were never told. Increased testing will reveal more ‘cases’, reduced testing fewer ‘cases’.
Without test rate we cannot make comparisons.
There is another factor. Disease is a set of symptoms. Sometimes a set of symptoms – the disease – can be shared by multiple possible causes and a differential diagnosis is required.
Coronavirus Disease is the Common Cold caused by the CoV2 virus as opposed to a variety of other viruses and the four other known coronavirus which cause 10% of Colds.
In the original Pfizer Human trials about 3 000 in each group – placebo and active ingredient – got symptoms associated with Colds. PCR test were used to determine which were due to SARS CoV 2.
In fact only 0.84% of cases in the placebo group were attributed to CoV 2 and 0.04% in the active ingredient group.
That shows the so-called vaccine did nothing actually to reduce ‘the disease’ just how much of it was reduced, caused by CoV 2.
So when considering CoVid ‘cases’, it would be valuable to know how many non-CoV 2 Cold cases there were.
Self-reporting surveys are fraught with problems as there is no way to validate the replies and in this case people are being asked to make a differential diagnosis of disease reliant solely on unreliable PCR/lateral flow tests, and cause of deaths for which most respondents will not be qualified to make absent a coroner’s report.
Without dismissing it entirely, it needs to be considered in this light.
The people most likely to respond to this type of survey are those who believe everything that has gone wrong is down to the vaccine, i.e. confirmation bias.
That’s a speculation with nothing to back it. One could as well conjecture that they’re mostly vaccine zealots eager to prove themselves right. We don’t really know that, either, though, and – more importantly – there’s no way we could ever know that as we can’t objectively assess other people’s thoughts. But that’s the general argument againt the whole field of sociology: It’s junk science based on creating statistics about inherently unverifiable anecdotes.
There are around 120 million households in the US.
3.6% of that total is about 4 million.
That means that according to the poll, at least 4 million people have died of covid in the US.
The current official figure is 1 million which most of us here already consider a gross exaggeration.
Even though I believe the jabs are causing lots of harm, I’m not sure this poll helps us very much if the results are so at odds with seemingly verifiable data.
A fair number of deaths post toxic bioweapon injection are labelled as ‘covid’ deaths, could this be the reason for the discrepancy between the ‘official’ figure & what the family believe to be the cause of death numbers in this survey?
Wow. These jabs really are worse than useless it seems.
Unsafe and Ineffective, for sure.
“Governments should be doing far more to look into why polls of the general public – not just this one but those by governments themselves – find high proportions of vaccine recipients reporting serious, debilitating and fatal reactions to the vaccines that governments insist are safe.”
Er… perhaps because they are neither safe nor effective. 2030 UK deaths plus 1.5 million adverse reactions according to the MHRA Yellow Card reporting system, might be a clue there somewhere.