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barbarbarbaudelaire
barbarbarbaudelaire
3 years ago

Cancer victim, 19, died after pleading in agony to see her doctor” – I’m American. To me the British are like the abused children of the NHS. No matter what it does you are constanting ingratiating yourselves. And does it make you helpless? Why would this women and her family not simply do whatever it takes when she pretty clearly needed attention? Go private? Go to another country? This is why Americans don’t want socialism: because of what it does to people,

JXB
JXB
3 years ago

It helps if you understand that everybody born since 1948 has been indoctrinated in the marvel of the NHS, to the point of it being an object of worship: as on Government Minister said, it is the closest thing Britain has to a National religion.

They have been told there was no healthcare prior to the NHS and everyone would suffer and die without it – particularly the ubiquitous ‘poor’. And even better – it’s ‘free’! Paid for by the magic money fairy.

The fact that millions suffer and die BECAUSE of the NHS is a message slowly getting through, but it takes a lot to reverse a lifetime of conditioning and brainwashing.

John
3 years ago
Reply to  JXB

I think you’ll find that that applies to everyone who was alive in 1947. It did save lives by giving access to antibiotics to those who could not afford them previously. Prior to the NHS, workers could pay into local schemes as insurance if they became ill and couldn’t work, which is where the phrase “going on the club” comes from when people took time off from work due to illness. However, this did not necessarily help wives or children.
The adulation of the NHS is a fairly recent development, I don’t remember any deification as I was growing up. The hospitals were there if you needed them, your GP was available

barbarbarbaudelaire
barbarbarbaudelaire
3 years ago
Reply to  JXB

Thanks for the explanation!!

BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago

Lack of money to be able to afford to do so may have been a reason plus those GPs are gatekeepers to private consultants & tests too.

barbarbarbaudelaire
barbarbarbaudelaire
3 years ago

Interesting. It is hard to understand the logic of the system except for control and preserving a monopoly. I appreciate your response.

BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago

The NHS at inception had to reward the consultants & GPs to get them to agree to work within it…

Nobody2022
3 years ago

Part of the issue is that because we have a safety net, many people don’t even bother trying to avoid falling.

They think that no matter what they do, somebody else will be there to pick up the pieces or fix them. The NHS and Benefits are abused by people who can’t be bothered to look after themselves.

Without the NHS I’m sure many would make more of an effort to not need its services.

Woodburner
Woodburner
3 years ago

“The Guardian view…” Ten thousand people in hospital with Covid. Nice big neat round number, hardly reflective of reality.

JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  Woodburner

Years ago, I used to read the Grauniad, but not now. Over the last year or so, I’ve been following some ONS stats for a couple of geographic areas, and for the last couple of registered weeks, the deaths associated with the said infection were zero.

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JXB
JXB
3 years ago
Reply to  Woodburner

They mean 10 000 in hospital with positive PCR test and admitted for non-CoVid related reasons.

But don’t expect truth from MSM.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Woodburner

10,000. That is less than 7.5% of capacity and approximately 75% of them went in with something else. This is nonsense. Another testing bonanza in rNHS.

RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Woodburner

The best bit is really this one (at the end): Even if we try to ignore Covid, it is not going to ignore us – as the tens of thousands being infected daily can testify.

Still completely inaproppriately framing a virus as an enemy capable of intelligent action and grossly underrepresenting the number of daily infections: The tens of thousands of (healthy) morons paying for COVID tests so that they can report the result are only the tip of the iceberg. Everyday, millions and millions of people who don’t knee-jerk test themselves all the time are being exposed to the virus. That’s what’s happening with endemic viruses capable of spreading through the air.

Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago

Trudeau and Rutte ‘golden pin-up boys’ for World Economic Forum: Rowan Dean
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte are “golden pin-up boys” for Klaus Schwab and the globalist fantasists of the World Economic Forum, says Sky News host Rowan Dean.
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Monro
3 years ago

‘How Boris squandered his premiership’

It is the country’s money that he has squandered, after the most disastrous, most incompetent and most expensive series of policies the nation has ever experienced in pursuit of a remedy for the ‘common cold’ for which there is and may never be a remedy.

Mad as a hatter, an incompetent, waffling, blustering buffoon, this whey faced ninny should arrested and physically removed from No 10 Downing Street.

The Cabinet should vote in an interim leader who can then instruct the Home Secretary to take the required action.

BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago
Reply to  Monro

Sadly the WEF is in charge of immigration, economic, energy, legal, education, health, travel, environment & food production policies plus any others I’ve most likely forgotten!

JXB
JXB
3 years ago

The Graunidistas and other mask fanatics are clearly mentally defective.

They cannot understand that if a virus is mild in its effect, trying to restrict its spread is a cost greater than any benefit. We don’t have this Pantomime to stop spread of Cold viruses.

They cannot understand that more infectious does not mean more virulent, in fact the opposite, because a more virulent virus is maladaptable, it will quickly immobilise its host thereby significantly reducing its chances of spreading and reproducing. That is self-limiting and not the best evolutionary strategy.

JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  JXB

They must be obsessed with one issue, fueled by a lack of understanding of it all. In particular, a batch of coronaviruses, and many more rhinoviruses, have been with us for thousands of years. As you observe, the continued existence of them is strongly linked to the fact that the infections are benign enough for us to tolerate them, to some extent, so the viruses can continue to exist.

ardj
ardj
3 years ago
Reply to  JXB

Amazing that Spanish ‘flu ever got off the ground

huxleypiggles
3 years ago

Well done Douglas Murray.

Looks like Campbell is back on the bottle. Very haggard. And his memory seems to be failing given that he didn’t seem to remember who David Kelly was.

Funny that.

BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Or doesn’t want to remember who David Kelly was… Guilty conscience??

Freecumbria
3 years ago

I’ve posted this on the Spring boosters article also, but it might get missed there now so hence i’m posting it here also. Hope that’s OK. Yesterday’s ONS publication on all cause deaths by vaccination status potentially gives some new insights into what is behind the recent increase in all cause mortality in England following the Spring boosters. In particular it appears to show that the relative mortality of the vaxed (vaxed mean any dose throughout this post) relative to the unvaxed has worsened since the Spring boosters started (between March and May), although that’s a trend that has been happening for some time. And so the recent high all cause mortality has a significant component related to vaccine damage. Here is a chart of the relative all cause mortality, measured using monthly age standardised mortality (ASM) from yesterday’s ONS publication. ASM adjusts for age differences between vaxed and unvaxed and reflects deaths mainly in the older population where most deaths happen. In May 2021 all cause mortality was 1.91 times the rate in the unvaxed as in the vaxed (ASM of 1718.8 vs 901.6 per 100,000) However non-covid mortality in May 2021 was similarly higher in the unvaxed relative… Read more »

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Freecumbria
3 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Found this bit revealing. Looks like some vaccine deaths were excluded from previous ONS reports. And not clear if the 1,436 is merely a subset of missing deaths. And this is what we are been told about, what about other data anomalies that are waiting to be corrected if ever?

In rare cases, a vaccination may not be recorded if the person has died soon after vaccination and before the record is entered into the system. We therefore include in our dataset an extract of people who died soon after vaccination and do not have a record in NIMS up to 25 May 2022. There were 1,436 people who linked to our PHDA dataset who were vaccinated but not included in the NIMS data as their vaccine record was entered after they had died.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago

1137: Starmer threatens vote of no confidence motion if Boris “clings on” any longer.

Just found this over on Guido’s site.

Looks like Kneel is moving in for the kill.

Absolutely hilarious 😂 😃 😄

ebygum
3 years ago

1.

Kwasi Kwarteng
@KwasiKwarteng
·19h
Today – at my request – Drax agreed to keep their coal plant online this winter, if needed.
With Russia cutting off gas to parts of Europe, this is a sensible precaution back home.
As Energy Secretary, I have a responsibility to ensure we have enough supply this winter.

(….although someone though might want to remind him that Europe refuses to buy Russian fuel…not the other way around….)

ebygum
3 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

2.

https://frontnews.eu/en/news/details/35252

Head of Bundestag committee considers sanctions against Russia immoral and wants to launch Nord Stream-2

Is this what it looks like when reality actually hits home?

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

“….although someone though might want to remind him that Europe refuses to buy Russian fuel…not the other way around….)”

When ‘reporting’ what matters is that the narrative is correct not the facts.

ebygum
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

…yes I’ve been thinking of trying that argument on my local butcher…
”I don’t want your meat, it’s not vegetarian, and in future I won’t be buying from you, although I might keep buying it for the time being until I become vegetarian…
butcher…sod off..
me…the butcher is refusing to sell me meat and has cut off my supply…..oh woe is me…it’s all his fault!!?

Clown World…LOL…!

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

Spot on.

ebygum
3 years ago

Sorry if this has been posted before….good piece, and I think it will become more common!!

https://mole.substack.com/p/vax_danger-2022-07-02-special-killjab

VAX_DANGER (2022-07-02) SPECIAL – The Austrian Health Minister is blaming Doctors for not informing patients of the health risks of vaccines [killJAB]Cracks in the wall appearing. Austrian Minister of Health Shifts Responsibility for Vaccine Damage to Doctors. The most epic throwing under the bus to save your own ass of our generation begins.

ebygum
3 years ago

Apparently German Farmers have now joined the Dutch to close down a roundabout on the border……
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOh1wuRUtrQ

huxleypiggles
3 years ago

https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/07/04/prince-charles-has-got-to-go/

An interesting piece in that in a low key way the article makes the case for a Republic. The argument is based on unremarkable evidence – Charlie trousering a few millions in return for various honours – par for the course these days – but at least the subject has been broached.

There is no mention of Charlie being a pal of Schwab and up to his neck in the Reset, which is the real reason for booting out the Windsors, but at least its a start.

barbarbarbaudelaire
barbarbarbaudelaire
3 years ago

“Transwomen to be banned” I don’t think transwomen can generally compete against women fairly without special considerations. I wonder if open competition with weight classes would work in some sports. Maybe handicaps in others.

In any case I like the principal espoused: “Anyone commenting on our policy should do so with empathy and consideration for all of those who have been involved and who may still have questions and concerns about how the policy impacts them.”

We may dislike ideology or policy but we shouldn’t hate people.

ebygum
3 years ago

Oh come on…you just KNEW this mo’fo’ had a finger in this pie!!!!!.?.??
va Vlaardingerbroek
@EvaVlaar
Jul 5
The Dutch minister who pushed the nitrogen law that grants the government the power to expropriate our farmers’ land has a brother who owns online supermarket @picnic
. Guess who invested $600 million in that company? Bill ‘fake meat’ Gates. This is what corruption looks like.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

Well slappa my thigh😀