Who Will be First Up Against the Wall if Civil Unrest Breaks Out?
In my Spectator column this week, I have speculated about who is likely to suffer most in the event of a breakdown of law and order this summer. My conclusion is that it is not middle-class pantywaists like me, but the muggers, car thieves and burglars who prey on middle-class property owners during normal time.
The educated bourgeoisie has developed an irrational fear of civilisational collapse, having been taught by books and films like The Road and Mad Max that gangs of marauding thugs will rule the roost in a post-apocalyptic universe. We’re told again and again that the moment law and order breaks down, our nice, leafy neighbourhoods will be transformed into Hobbesian hellholes. If bespectacled soy-boys like me aren’t killed for foolishly trying to defend our homes, the best we can hope for is to become indentured labourers while our wives and daughters are carried off on motorcycles.
But as I discovered during the disorder of 11 years ago, it is not middle-class property owners who have the most to fear from the breakdown of society, but the propertyless. This revelation hit me during a long day in August 2011 that began with a trip to Ealing Broadway, the site of the worst rioting the night before. It’s about a two-mile walk from my house, and as I made my way along the Uxbridge Road I could see exactly where the rioters had got to the previous evening, like a tideline in the urban landscape. On one side of the line it looked as it always does – the usual hotchpotch of restaurants, coffee shops and newsagents along the main road, with quiet residential streets behind – whereas on the other there were broken shop windows, burnt-out cars and upended bins, as if the area had been engulfed by some terrible destructive storm. That line was about half a mile from my house.
By the time I got to the Broadway it was too late to help with the clean-up, so I decided to wander back via a street of Victorian semi-detached houses just like my own. Had the sea of rioters flowed exclusively along the main thoroughfares or been diverted along residential streets? They’d been diverted. Everywhere I looked, householders were boarding up their windows, sweeping broken glass off their front steps or standing by their damaged cars, waiting for tow trucks.
I asked one man what had happened and he said a pack of feral youths had tried to break into his home at around midnight. He’d locked his wife and young child in the garden shed for their own safety and then done his best to keep out the mob as they tried to break down his front door and smash their way in through his front window. ‘Didn’t you call the police?’ I asked. ‘Yes, of course,’ he said. More than 12 hours later, they still hadn’t turned up.
I hurried home, convinced the riots would reach my street that night and desperately trying to think of ways to protect my wife and children. I asked the head of the local Neighbourhood Watch group to convene an emergency meeting and, not surprisingly, it was well-attended. There were about 30 of us, nearly all men, and we agreed we wouldn’t risk anything to protect our cars. If lawless youths wanted to smash them up or set them on fire, so be it. But if they tried to break into our homes, we would act. We agreed that the householder being targeted would set off his burglar alarm and the rest of us would come running to help, using whatever weapons we had to hand – cricket bats, hammers, iron bars.
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Sorry TY but you are writing about what happened 11 years ago. Conditions then were TOTALLY DIFFERENT to those which pertain now and which are likely to get much worse.
It is not difficult at the moment to foresee a situation emerging where there will be chaos and lawlessness and people will be unable to defend themselves against a mob. Leafy London suburbs do not represent the entirety of the UK and the conditions which exist in differing regions, differing counties even.
If only we still had a Police Force we could rely on to exercise its ‘duty of care’ to protect the public instead of just the Government and its totalitarian policies. Mark Sexton catalogues in a letter to the Police regulatory authorities his heroic efforts to force the police to follow issued Crime Numbers and investigate the crimes allegedly committed by Government Officials under the Covid Umbrella and Vax Roll out – without success . Mountains of harrowing testimonials from victims and expert evidence of wrong doing was presented – but apparently without any investigation whatever taking place the police can divine that no crimes have been committed or lies told by those in ‘authority’. So there we are. Do we begin to wonder why Cressida Dick’ was disappeared’ so suddenly? We see clearly where the “Police” stand in their ‘advice’ to young girls not to wear short skirts in public if they go near any of Johnson’s 1,000 imposed fresh-off-the-boats-at-Dover young, male ‘asylum seekers’ ( sic) mostly of Muslim heritage, being billeted in their small Yorkshire village in what seems a deliberate act of cultural violence against the shocked inhabitants.. “Hide in your houses from the invaders and don’t… Read more »
When I was a cop in the 70’s & 80’s the cry was of an overbearing police state with far too many cops on the street. Government responded, recruitment fell and police offices were shut down as budgets were cut. Technology was adopted to ‘remote police’ areas ‘discreetly’ and workloads for cops were increased to include politically correct and non confrontational policing, despite being tooled up with body armour, tazers and nighsticks. Speed camera’s were adopted instead of traffic officers patrolling in fast cars. Indeed, whilst the police were always the first response to any emergency (we were probably in the area, likely in a vehicle and could be there in minutes) road safety and crash response seems to have been handed over to the Fire Service. Fair does, brilliant guys, but they might take 20 minutes from the station alarm going off to a lumbering appliance getting to the scene. So here we are. No foot patrols, police vehicles driving from minor crime to minor crime, but no patrolling. Intelligence reduced to computers instead of the old style street smarts and local knowledge of coppers. We either accept there are bad apples in the police from time to time,… Read more »
Policing is a great example of a public service that has become unaffordable owing to the nature of the decline in standard of inhabitant in this small island.
Most people would prefer more policing, especially beat presence but sadly we have become infested by low skilled immigrants and of course the swelling of numbers attracted to the benefits culture.
The result is an economy that doesn’t generate an awful lot of significant tax payers, and the burden of having to pay to house, feed and entertain the mushrooming number of useless scroungers.
This effects affordability of all our key services such as policing and the woeful NHS. The services are stretched far beyond our means to pay for them.
We have to reform welfare savagely and completely end the immigration of talentless people into this country if we are to hope to turn things around.
The broadest shoulders cannot carry any more weight.
Amen to that.
Good post, thank you.
I find your observation if the 70s and 80s interesting. That is not my recollection of that period in my East Midlands county. Most of the population were horrified at the reduction of on foot police, the loss of local magistrates courts and local police stations and pretty much every large village had a police house with a resident policeman and his family. All taken from us. I don’t think that cry was coming from the majority of law abiding people going about their daily business. It was coming from the Liberal elites who lived nowhere near and felt nobody should be chastised or have respect for authority. This was passed into our culture by them especially through the left infiltration of education. This included (don’t forget) the time when the Police started their graduate recruitment program of officers who had no idea of street work and really didn’t want to get cold and wet. Over the years how many young people didn’t go off track and ruin their lives because the local Bobby knew them and their families, was present and calmed things down? It undermined centuries of local justice by local people for local people. I can firmly… Read more »
It was coming from the Liberal elites who lived nowhere near and felt nobody should be chastised or have respect for authority. They did of course participate however, I can promise you, the cry came from the same place it’s coming from now. The individuals who don’t want to be stopped and searched, and who use race to justify their demands when crime in predominantly black communities is higher than anywhere else. The same thing happens today, especially in the US, with cries to defund the police coming from the leaders of communities who will most profit from defunding. Those calls come loudest from BLM and antifa. And I profoundly disagree with the concept of class even existing in the UK any longer. It did at one time when royalty was considered upper class, the uber wealthy but not royalty connected middle class, and everyone else working class. But it’s become a moveable feast today with class meaning whatever political target is being politicised at any given moment. I was there when graduate recruitment began and I could tell you stories that would make you both laugh and cry at the sheer incompetence of many of these people. The police… Read more »
I think you will find that we are still a society of classes. ITV news last night described Ant and Dec as ‘TV Royalty’. I cannot wait to celebrate their jubilee.
I hasten to add that it is my wife that insists on watching the news and she only does so in order to call out the biased reporting and propaganda, and, of course, to find out the latest news about Ant and Dec whom she absolutely worships.
Bad apples in the police from time to time?
The whitewashing of partygate by the whole police self service in London would suggest rather a lot of bad apples all the time.
As an ex-copper would you now trust a copper?
Was the change a result of the change in terminology – a police force became a police service?
What remains is now a police self service which only recruits those of a psychopath tendency, willing to rugby tackle elderly lady protesters, and probably happy to use machine guns if ordered to. Today’s police are there to protect the political class from the public who, they know, hate and detest them.
The public have only themselves to blame because they continue to vote for them.
“Sorry TY but you are writing about what happened 11 years ago. Conditions then were TOTALLY DIFFERENT to those which pertain now and which are likely to get much worse.”
Furthermore, the conditions that will spark a breakdown are unlikely to be associated with a perceived injustice, racial or otherwise.
If people have no money, cannot pay bills, are facing eviction, cannot fuel their vehicles, buy food for their families,their interpretation of injustice may very well be swayed by the nauseating memories of such as Partygate.
If law and order does breakdown the results could be startlingly vicious.
Bozo the Magnificent is taking this country in to wholly uncharted territory. Assuming the riots of ten years ago provide some sort of template is naiive at best.
Once the fire is lit it will not be easily extinguished.
It’s interesting to war game what a sudden economic crash might look like on the ground. I’m sure those currently conspiring in Davos have been doing this for many years. It won’t look anything like the 2011 riots, which was confined to certain districts and sections of society. We are all incredibly vulnerable with our modern interconnected lifestyles, far removed from sources of energy and food and lacking the resources to live off grid if required. So it’ll come down to how much power the authorities are able to exert. If they took 12 hours to respond to the guy in Toby’s story in a localised period of unrest, then they don’t have a cat in hell’s chance to maintain order across the entire country. And the police will also be victims; who’s going to pay them and what with? I’m reassured by reading about Argentina in 2002 when it’s currency crashed. People turned to bartering and things remained largely peaceful as far as I understand; we don’t always turn into savages at the first sign of trouble. But we are a particularly vulnerable and dependent society and we do live rather on top of each other. It’s probably a… Read more »
I think the people in towns and countryside will fare rather better than those in the cities for the reason you hinted at in your last sentence. We tend to be already well-connected to the people around us and already look out for each other and help each other out. In the cities (and I used to live in London), that’s no true to the same extent.
Violent urban anarchists are out their depth in the countryside.
Chuck a daisy at them and they would go down with hay fever. And they would come off a very second best when your local chapter of the Young Farmers Association shows up to play.
With Shotguns
This is my plan. Steal a few chickens and some diesel, and hunker down at home in the country with lots of ammo.
You’ve obviously thought about this a lot.
Conspiring at Davos – Indeed !
Fact not “theory”. “Ve are shaping zee future ”
Or “Tomorrow belongs to me”
“Heute gehört uns Deutschland, morgen die Ganze Welt”
As I have always maintained, I don’t see Xi and Putin taking orders from the ego maniac Klaus Schwab.
I don’t think Ukraine is what we think Ukraine’s about.
Neither would Joseph Stalin or Mao Tse Tung have taken orders from A Hitler.
But Hitler was prepared to give it his best shot. Schwab seems determined to do likewise.
Schwab doesn’t have a military.
He’s a Walter Mitty fantasist and a con man.
Anal Schwab has the political class doing his bidding. Their militaries are his, in effect.
Don’t be silly. He’s a lightweight.
I wouldn’t be so sure on that – https://www.israel365news.com/269738/the-w-e-f-has-its-own-police-force-whose-badge-resembles-daniels-end-days-prophesy/
This chap was in the process of detaining Jack Posobeic an independent journalist reporting from Davos.
Nailed it CG. From the Davos advance planning to getting to know your neighbours.
This is why we need to be allowed to carry guns and we also need to stop letting people flock into the country. When the moment comes that we can’t print free money to sustain beggars for ever, that is when the trouble will start.
Preventing people from defending and protecting themselves while daily increasing the potential threat to them seems part of the mix!
The Government knows nothing and cares even less about the new arrivals, other that they are mostly young, male, Muslims, who know nothing about England but expect to get money and free accommodation on arrival.
The Soros’ Family’s “Open Society” means no society at all!
Which is of course why they head to this beautiful, nigh-on tropical climate in the first place
“When the moment comes that we can’t print free money to sustain beggars for ever, that is when the trouble will start.”
Your post hits on a key element of everything scary that’s happening in the world right now. IMO the key to the operation for our rulers is protecting the digital printing press. Yes, this allows the super wealthy to get even wealthier (via crony capitalism and probably rigged or “artificially supported” “markets”).
However, the magic printing press also makes it possible for our leaders to subsidize the proletariat to a level where there is no anarchy in the streets … and no revolutions, where those revolting might come for the Ruling Class with pitch forks.
So our rulers have to be able to continue to “print free money.” This means that inflation – already the worst in U.S. history (if correctly measured) is getting ready to become even worse and scarier.
But they WILL protect that printing press. They have to for their own survival.
Yes, I suggest we start by trainining 18 year old loners how to use AR-15 rifles…. just for self-defense, of course.
Cricket bats, hammers and iron bars to smash up feral youths?
Whatever happened to peaceful protest and prayer?
Who suggested that?
In Channel 4 News voice:
“So what you’re saying is… my social justice warrior soft-skills won’t work?”
🤠
He is describing them as “Men” like he’s a biologist. And he’s sizest by saying skinny. I hope he
checks his privilegeis re-educated soon… perhaps in a Uyghur camp where they construct the lithium cells for electric scooters.Anyone seen the e-scooter bay on the corner of St James’s Street and Piccadilly? It’s literally outside White’s Private Members Club lol
The Sri Lankans seem to know who to target.
They’ve worked out the system press/news agencies won’t cover their issue with fertilisers, particularly with a certain get together at a Swiss ski resort this week.
using whatever weapons we had to hand – cricket bats, hammers, iron bars.
Would you really use these implements? To potentially kill? What if it’s against someone a lot stronger than you?
If you are defending your children and family you will use whatever you can. And if you are weaker, then the first rule of self defence is to inflict crippling injury on your opponent before he can gather his thoughts, because you won’t get a second chance. If you pussy foot around trying to be kind, you will die.
The first rule of self defence is to leg it.
Indeed, but if you are in your house or an overweight 40 plus, you won’t outrun a youth.
That’s what our brave police self service did when confronted by Antifa, BLM and then massed ranks of Muslims demanding their rights. They ran and didn’t stop.
But they bravely rugby-tackled elderly white ladies to the floor to be jumped very n by ten brave colleagues, while protesting in Trafalgar Square, so they’re all right really.
They keep Boris and his mates safe from us, which is all they are there for.
All this drivel means is that mentally our editor has not advanced far beyond those 15 year olds. I bet even today he sits rewatching Rambo movies while imagining himself setting deadly traps in the jungle.
And who has an iron bar just lying around? I mean I have an iron poker. But not a random iron bar.
Why not beat them with a chicken?
That would annoy the chicken.
One of my cockerels is a vicious bastard, and sneaky with it, he would beat up an intruder on his own initiative….
Or, she could use you.
Erm…
I have several cordless drills in my shed I could use.
There’s also a machete.
Just as in practical reality kitchen knives are every bit as dangerous as “combat knives” (and a lot easier to come by), such improvised weapons are pretty much as dangerous as purpose designed weapons such as real swords. And some probably have similar intimidation value.
Not sure personally about the practicality of a cordless drill in a melee – never really given it much thought…
My personal favourite is a pickaxe handle, enough weight to do some damage but easy to swing, and longer than most knives.
Pretty plausible imo. My hobby is using swords as they were used historically, and I own a lot of antique (but perfectly effective) real swords (like the one in the story I linked, but sharp), but in a situation like the one Toby describes, I’d be tempted to go with that option instead of a sword, for a number of reasons
@Toby – But who will middle-class “pantywaists” prepare to wield their hammers against when they lose all their “savings”? That can happen lightning fast, and it did happen in Argentina. The 2011 riots were different from the 1980-81 and 1985 riots in that they were gangster-instigated. The 1980s ones were mostly about communities who’d had enough of police harassment. If there is civil unrest in 2022 in response to the rapid fall in real incomes (the “cost of living crisis” in sillyspeak), that will be different again. Hopefully it won’t be confined to, or dominated by, the “criminal underclass”. (Pantywaists will be welcome to participate 😉 .) “Criminal underclass” gets inverted commas because gang structures aren’t a class. Many people in the “underclass” detest gangsters (and their drug dealing and loansharking) and given a choice between gangsters and the police they prefer the police. Unfortunately, many police officers don’t understand that. (This is why in general the police turn up far quicker when a burglary is reported in a leafy middle class street than when they hear about a burglary on an impoverished housing estate.) I’m not sure you have a handle on gangs. Maybe take a look at the… Read more »
I once read that the reason for a welfare state was to keep the population docile.
Print money at infinity and support the populace. They won’t rise up.
At some point printing money will no longer be an option – if the dollar collapses, highly probable, the whole of western society could implode. China might invade Taiwan. Russia might invade Poland, Argentina invades the Falklands.
CBDC? At this stage BS. Paying millions to sit on their arses, barely subsisting and queuing for food from state canteens cannot wash.
Far too many variables if the collapse occurs.
Cripple electricity supplies and things will rapidly escalate.
Perhaps govt might have to introduce UBI more swiftly in order to stave off the unrest so no one needs to worry about the chaos and the rioting. We know it is coming, it is simply a matter of when.
Same way as they introduced the lockdowns to keep us all safe.
I presume that as I’m now retired with an independently funded pension, when I get my UBI I’ll be able to afford a Ferrari?
A modest one of course.
The trial in Wales gave them £2500 pm, each. If they use a hyperinflationary event to bring in UBI & CBDC it’ll be worth half that or less, as would your pension.
Who says they need a hyperinflationary event to introduce UBI? The trials in wales weren’t run under those conditions, nor were those in Finland.
I would love to see your evidence for that.
We agreed that the householder being targeted would set off his burglar alarm and the rest of us would come running to help, using whatever weapons we had to hand – cricket bats, hammers, iron bars.
It was understood – nobody had to say it aloud – that we would use the toilet paper only as a last resort.
The prospect is dreadful but when and I say when very deliberately. When it happens – Breakdown, you won’t see the plod for dust, here imagine and then think of the Iraq war aftermath, a chaos of bloodletting and utter lawlessness.
Lets be honest here, the authorities barely have control now. Indeed they cede certain enclaves and streets with a casual disregard and have abandoned any sort of regular patrol, reconnaissance, info gathering. Stuck in computer suites the occasional ‘costa coffee run or Greggs’ even with subsidized cafeteria. Fastnessed in fast are they in their out of town comfortable fortresses. But when, the going gets tough, off with the uniform and skedaddling at a rate of knots. The Army, we barely have one, prepare to Militia up.
That bloke,Toby, the one who gallantly ensconced his wife and child in the garden fortress known unto Man as ye shed whilst he popped back to the castle? Did she divorce him?
Feral rioters marauding the streets in random destruction mode would not have the same level of motivation as a homeowner defending their own territory. You only have to look at Ukraine to see what happens when unmotivated invaders come up against highly motivated residents.
Sure, put my windows through; I’ll claim on the insurance. Cross or attempt to cross my threshold and expect to have extreme violence placed upon you.
Denis Rancourt’s description of Covid-19 as a ‘war measure’ seems very plausible to me. If you as a power structure were expecting catastrophic economic trouble, you would want to know:
✅ What proportion of your population are prepared to follow orders, no matter how risky or illogical.
✅ Whether you could realistically place your population under house arrest just by asking them to with some vague threats.
✅ Whether you could control the flow of information and dominate the narrative.
✅ Whether you could interfere with peoples’ right to work and earn by telling them it was ‘for their own good.’
✅ Whether you could close your borders and restrict movement suddenly and on a whim.
The cartel pretending to run our country now have this information, of course. As does every other nation on earth. To imagine that Covid-19 was a gigantic trick means trying to imagine ways that various governments could plausibly mislead and lie on such a massive scale without being truly ‘evil’. I think this neatly answers that question. They’ve done the maths.
First up against the wall will be the smug gits who hide in vans nicking decent people for trivial speed infringements instead of protecting those same decent people from feral scroats.
Mobile speed camera’s are invariably outsourced to free up the police.
Speed cameras, stoplight cameras, and toll road cameras are outsourced to produce more revenue for cash-crunched governments. These “safety reforms” are another massive scam that the sheeple for some reason have accepted.
… I just paid a $13 ticket arising from my trip from Alabama to Orlando and Disney World. Apparently, I didn’t pay one of my tolls and a camera caught me. I did pay several tolls on this trip (so tolls and toll fines cost me about $20). I was two weeks late paying my citation so the State got a 120 percent premium on my “late fees.” That is, they like people who pay late. In the future, when I can only use digital currency, these fines will be automatically taken from “my” checking account, which really won’t be my checking account.
In other words, if the State is afraid of raising taxes, they can and do find other way to get the money that sustains their operations, which ALWAYS require MORE money.
And they always seem to lurk on safe bits of road, where they can remain invisible until the last minute. Saw one in a 30 limit last weekend, not at a dangerous point and just before going into a 40 – whereas the next two villages do have some places which are dangerous if someone is speeding.
If it was actually about safety they’d focus on the dangerous spots – but as it’s about revenue they concentrate on those where they will catch the maximum number of people.
And they would stop people and discuss their driving, not send out letters on an industrial scale.
A really important point. Speed camera’s foster resentment. They were vandalised en mass with burning tyres, spray paint, mud, etc. on an epic scale in the 80’s.
That was the Blair/Broon era. We noticed many fell into neglect or were removed when Cameron was elected. Very noticeable.
Getting stopped by a cop is much more effective. As you say, a chance for a chat, and often just that, without a ticket.
But if you say you are a ‘Freeman of the Land’ and quote the Magna Carta, and say you ‘haven’t made any contract’ with the Police whom you don’t recognise as a lawful authority in your ‘alternative society’, they’ll let you off.
Idiot.
Look at the number of speed camera’s on hills……
Still their responsibility. Still the police who send out the letters. Still the police who are treating the public like the shit on their shoes.
You’ve had a lot of interactions with the police I assume.
So that they can sit watching CCTV screens searching for non-violent hate crimes while loosening their belts for another box of doughnuts.
‘… it is not middle-class property owners who have the most to fear from the breakdown of society,..’
It’s the effing middle-class who are engineering societal breakdown, with their vegan, plastic free, stop fossil fuels, cows are destroying the Planet, environmentalist, mind your pronouns, woke, transgender crap. They get paid for jobs that have no productive output – youf outreach, gender equality compliance, climate change management, charities, victimology activist groups, government jobs.
It’s the working class who have their wages plundered to support these parasites or can’t get a job because the leaches are a deadweight on economic activity, who will organise and give these wastrels a good, sorting out.
Read David Graeber’s 2018 book ‘Bullshit Jobs’. As ‘real’, mostly working-class jobs have slowly declined, fake mostly middle-class jobs have been created at a faster pace. So people are working longer hours instead of most of us having a 10-15 hour working week by now and spending more time with friends, in our gardens, etc.
He’s an anarchist and favours a basic income as a way to eliminate 95% of the DWP bureaucracy. I agree. Get rid of means-testing, so sorry ‘targeting’. It stops some people having enough to live on, because they find the process so awful that they give up.
Interesting – I would say very scary – times are a coming. Rampant inflation – perhaps leading to dreaded hyperinflation – will be the obvious trigger (this is already starting). Most economists are now predicting a global recession, which is probably already here. But this could become a Global Great Depression. In fact, I’d be stunned if this is somehow avoided. I just read a story saying that massive increases in health insurance premiums will be imposed on the 13 million people using “ObamaCare.” But when I think about this, I don’t know how massive increases in health care premiums won’t occur for EVERYONE. All of the Covid posts at the Daily Skeptic support this prediction. Are health cases that require hospitalization or a trip to the doctor going down? Or are they going way up? Obvious answer: They are increasing dramatically. Vaccine injuries are part of the reason, but so too are the collateral effects of lockdowns and a crashing economy (exacerbated by the public health response to Covid). Mental health is deteriorating on a massive scale as well. This imposes health costs itself, but also produces great stress in people – which is a killer by itself. So… Read more »
They’ve already committed today to giving millions of people a handout for their Benidorm beers, burgers and bingo. ahem I mean winter heating bills
I guess the picture I present in the above post could be labeled as “doom porn.” I’m also sure people could say I’m guilty of the same “fear-mongering” I have criticized in all my Covid posts. But, regarding the current and future state of the global economy, I think fear-mongering is justified. Speaking for myself, I’m open to rebuttals that explain how and why these bleak scenarios will NOT transpire. Maybe electing the “right” politicians in future elections will save us all? Maybe all these massive corporations, through innovation and smart enterprise, will save us? As one of my journalistic heroes John Stossel often says, “Give me a break.” Or, if the Fortune 500 Companies aren’t going to ride to the rescue, all of our “Mom and Pop” small businesses will. But the Mom and Pop businesses have either already failed or are hanging on by a thread. Others might say that we are just going through a normal economic cycle. When you have free markets, economic pain causes corrections that ultimately solve all the problems. The flaw in this assumption is that we actually have “free markets.” IMO this is one of those bogus narratives most people blindly accept… Read more »
I wonder if TY likes to jerk off to such power fantasies? Does he forget that teenage rioters have “cricket bats” and “iron bars”, too, certainly have more “combat experience” and are usually not overweight, out-of-breath, aging “gentlemen” such as himself and his friendly neighborhood militia?
In such situations, motivation plays a big part. A bunch of overweight, out-of-breath, aging “gentlemen” defending their homes are likely to see off a bunch of young yahoos just out for a bit of excitement and whatever they can get. The latter will likely go off to some other neighbourhood where the pickings are easier because the local populace decided to cower in their homes individually, waiting for authority to come and save them.
Eh.. I suspect you don’t have much contact with those “young yahoos” then, do you? How long do you think will an elderly indignated gentleman like our host valiantly protect his property after having his nose punched in once?
Plus, I’d say his sort makes a very good symbol of oppression for those disturbed youths looking to relieve daily stress. They might avoid picking up a fight with competing aggressive gang members, but a bunch of fatty loudmouth grandpas in Rambo bandanas looking to defend in their big car/homes do make a perfect target and a great power trip, too.
“disturbed youths looking to relieve daily stress.”
“Blacks” only has one syllable.
Used to play football with them regularly. Exchanging punches in the face wasn’t unheard of, either, in those matches.
Motivation plays a very large part in how one reacts to getting punched in the face. And yes, I do speak from experience as well as education.
Finally, you might have some sort of leftist fantasy about “oppressed” youths taking out their frustration at lifetimes of suffering and supposed oppression in revolutionary zeal, but in modern western states these riots are generally just thugs looking to get a bit of a buzz, show off to their mates and snag some loot.
Dangerous, for sure, especially if you get caught outnumbered, but basically scum.
I’m 65 and overweight, also [then] not fully recovered from a hip replacement.. Several months ago I was attacked in a shop by a 40 year old man. He came off second best. I didn’t have my Rambo bandana with me either.
These people are cowards and if their solution is violence, they don’t have much between the ears. They don’t know how to spell oppression far less understand what it means.
I live in a village and know 3 men who own rifles. It’s unlikely that I happen to know all of the rifle owners. Shotgun ownership is bound to be much higher.
The population is 98 % white, and the non-whites are mainly the children of white mothers and long-departed black fathers. The Zimbabwean refugee is a shortarse, and there don’t seem to be any Muslims: the person living in my part of the village who claimed to be an Arab in the 2011 census was, I suspect, the ironically nicknamed Joe the Gypsy taking the piss.
Gun ownership, even shotguns, is relatively rare in the respectable inner suburbs these days, and carrying a gun would anyway attract far more police attention than rioting does.
Legal gun ownership obviously makes things better in most ways.
Please tell me where this place is……and are there any houses for sale?!
Like most criminals, they barely have two brain cells between them to organise themselves.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity. If they are rioting, they are stupid.
If I had my way I would welcome civil unrest, but only against those responsible for Clown World. In no particular order of merit they would be :-
The whole of TRPTB cabal/Davos set.
And, if they’re not in it already –
Blair. the MSM – especially the BBC and the G******n, and every bastard who advocates the jab.
And while they’re at it, please raze to the ground all biolab/genetic research facilities and Bigpharma.
And get rid of Raheem Sterling and Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton – the seriously wealthy, half white, Capitalist, Tax exile, who self identifies as ‘black’, when he’s half ‘white’, taking the knee to a marxist organisation who have run off with the money he doubtless donated – vowing to force the entire F1 grid to also take the knee.
Max Verstappen and a few others resisted his demands, then Max took his title, and Hamilton’s response was to sulk and threaten not to continue in F1. Now his virtuous privilege entitles him to defy FIA regulations and wear jewellery when he’s racing.
I notice he’s no longer kneeling. Doubtless feeling a bit stupid knowing the leader of BLM is now residing in a $6m mansion in LA. But if challenged, he would maintain the cause was just.
And when his cheque to them rolled in, they no doubt looked at it and said “Lewis who?”.
That’s the one, I absolutely despise him (as much as you’re allowed to hate anybody these days)
I complained about an article on the BBC website whereby he said he was setting up a fund for disadvantaged black children. My point to the BBC was that they’d never have allowed a white sportsman or celebrity to say that they were setting up a fund for disadvantaged white kids as that would be seen by them as racism.
Of course they failed to agree and found “nothing racial or biased” about the article after their review!
A now greatly missed friend was a council member of the Law Society.
During one Council session, a black member proposed the setting up of a Black Solicitors’ Section of the Law Society.
My friend immediately proposed that a similar one be set up for White Solicitors. Both proposals were swiftly abandoned.
Bill, my friend, was a brave man, ex-SAS, and we are poorer for his like vanishing from our midst.
And the millionaire currently doing ‘nuffin’ at Man Utd who is always bleating for his deprived bros an’ sistas, who could afford to feed them all without a worry, but doesn’t.
as a United fan, I really do wish he’d put as much effort into his football as he does his virtue-signalling
As an ex-referee what would I know about football?
Look on the bright side, total economic collapse and mass starvation will put an end to radical feminism 🤠
Oops! I think that’s something else we aren’t supposed to notice…
There’s an attractive woman – I think the term is MILF – who lives near me and we often chat while our dogs sniff each others bums.
She recently joked that if things got really bad she might have to start “standing on corners”!
As long as she doesn’t start sniffing bums
There are several politicians, probably dozens, that would pay large sums to have ladies do that and more to them.
More than likely that one with funny eyes and his mouth always gaping open, who has been outed as a drug addict and is reputed to bark out of bedroom windows.
‘But as I discovered during the disorder of 11 years ago, it is not middle-class property owners who have the most to fear from the breakdown of society, but the propertyless.’
That was a minor blip not a breakdown of society, if society broke down you would starve for lack of Uber eats.
There are swathes of fat bastards here in the North East who would go into meltdown if they couldn’t afford their Greggs fix.
We’re going to see some very unhappy peasants. It’s almost something to look forward to
They will be on hard times once they’ve eaten each other.
I recall it well having visited the area several times for the occasional pub gig at the time. The thing that impressed me among the damage was how the premises of bank branches al looked untouched by the rioters.
Sorry, Toby, I don’t think professional criminals and head-breakers have much to worry about from you and your bridge club, especially since the English middle class has disarmed itself.
Tony Fauci = Mass murderer
Bill Gates = Dr Evil
Chris Whitty = Joseph Goebbels
Doris Johnson = Oliver Hardy
Jonathan Van Tam = Lord Haw Haw
BBC = Pravda
Please add, as you think appropriate.
When you fight intruders you must be prepared to kill them. A beating isn’t enough.
A knife through the eye into the brain.
Throat-cutting.
A knife into the heart.
Etc, etc.
Exactly. There were riots in the North East in the early 80s. They were in North Shields and Scotswood, not Jesmond or Hexham, and joyriding was the trigger.
In those days cars and even empty houses were stripped and set on fire by mobs in broad daylight with no police involvement. Youths stood on street corners with carrier bags into which feral children under 10 dropped car radios and a woman visiting our office on Scotswood Road took a shortcut through the estate and had her window shot out; an old man on the pavement shouted, ‘Divvent stop pet; they’ll rob yer!’
We’re not back to those days yet, and I suspect that the under class is too obese and doped by drugs for their ‘mental health’ to be too much bother. They are also too well off. It is the low paid workers who are angry and they are likely to take it out on their idle neighbours.
I lived in Azerbaijan for a while, ironically helping to produce the oil and gas that a rising shortage of is now precipitating collapse. Law and order collapsed there after the breakup of the Soviet Union. An Azeri acquaintance of mine, who lived through that experience, told me that a system of warlords established itself in the vacuum. A widespread practice of theirs was to strap people’s children to chairs and torture them until the parents revealed the location of their hidden food and money. I think the metropolitan elite entirely fail to understand the depths of human depravity, and how close we are to experiencing it first hand.
Aren’t our government doing exactly that with their intention to give lethal injections to our children?
British politicians are not there for our benefit.
Doris wants you dead, and he is serious.
I doubt it Toby.
The rioters these days will be armed with knives, machetes and guns. Our cities have had over a decade of further “enrichment” since 2011 …… and the police have been further demoralised and politicised.
Reminds me of the street battle in Metallica, ‘Through The Never’…Great band.
Notice how the Police bang their battons like some sort of Roman soldiers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDb7AoDNN18