WHO to Make Lockdowns Part of Official Pandemic Guidance
The World Health Organisation is to make lockdowns and other non-pharmaceutical interventions intended to curb viral spread part of official pandemic guidance.
The revelation comes in a report scheduled to go to the WHO’s World Health Assembly later this month. This is not part of a new pandemic treaty and does not require the endorsement of member states. The report says the implementation is already underway.
Many have raised the alarm about a new WHO pandemic treaty. However, as I’ve noted previously (and as Michael Senger notes here), there isn’t a new pandemic treaty on the table. Rather, there are amendments to the existing treaty, the International Health Regulations 2005, plus other recommendations (131 in all) put forward in a report from the Working Group on Strengthening WHO Preparedness and Response to Health Emergencies.
Most of these amendments and recommendations relate to information and resource sharing and preparation for future pandemics; none of them directly interferes with state sovereignty in the sense of allowing the WHO to impose or lift measures. However, that doesn’t mean they’re not dangerous, as they endorse and codify the appalling errors of the last two years, which began with China’s Hubei lockdown on January 23rd 2020.
The recommendations in the report originate from WHO review panels and committees and were sent out in a survey in December 2021 to member states and stakeholders to seek their views.
Non-pharmaceutical interventions appear three times in the recommendations, once under “equity” and once under “finance”, where states are urged to ensure “adequate investment in” and “rapid development, early availability, effective and equitable access to novel vaccines, therapeutics, diagnostics and non-pharmaceutical interventions for health emergencies, including capacity for testing, scaled manufacturing and distribution”.
While rapid development and early availability of non-pharmaceutical interventions sounds worrying enough, it could be interpreted in a number of ways by states.
Where it really gets alarming, however, is in the “leadership and governance” section. LPPPR 29 states (emphasis added):
Apply non-pharmaceutical public health measures systematically and rigorously in every country at the scale the epidemiological situation requires. All countries to have an explicit evidence-based strategy agreed at the highest level of government to curb COVID-19 transmission.
The requirement that a country’s pandemic strategy must aim to curb viral transmission is a major change from the current guidance. The U.K.’s existing pandemic preparedness strategy, prepared in line with previous WHO recommendations, is completely clear that no attempt should be made to stop viral transmission as it will not be possible and will waste valuable resources, stating as such in three places:
It will not be possible to halt the spread of a new pandemic influenza virus, and it would be a waste of public health resources and capacity to attempt to do so.
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It almost certainly will not be possible to contain or eradicate a new virus in its country of origin or on arrival in the U.K. The expectation must be that the virus will inevitably spread and that any local measures taken to disrupt or reduce the spread are likely to have very limited or partial success at a national level and cannot be relied on as a way to ‘buy time’.
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It will not be possible to stop the spread of, or to eradicate, the pandemic influenza virus, either in the country of origin or in the U.K., as it will spread too rapidly and too widely.
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But now the WHO says that curbing viral transmission is to be the aim of pandemic response. This is a disaster.
Worse, the report says this recommendation will be incorporated into the WHO’s “normative work”, meaning it will be part of official WHO guidance to states in responding to a pandemic. Worse still, it says it’s already being implemented – it doesn’t need a treaty or the agreement of member states to do this, it’s already happening.
Expect to see new guidance appearing at the international and national levels over the coming months and years which incorporate this presumption that restrictions should be imposed to curb viral spread. This is despite the last two years only confirming the wisdom of the WHO’s previous guidance that this is not possible and not worth the attempt.
This matter must be raised at the highest levels so that lockdowns and other non-pharmaceutical interventions are kept out of all pandemic planning.
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I suspect that if I read all of the WHO’s guidance, I’d be dead already.
The WHO recommends that everyone gives Bill Gates all their money, to keep you safe.
The usual quality of WHO guidance is of the Bacon can cause cancer! (paraphrase of the real one) variety, ie, they’re basically a bunch of clowns with a a not-that-covert political agenda everybody usually ignores. And rightly so.
They’re much worse than clowns. This is a concerted attack on our basic freedoms, including the right to be alive.
A saying I remember from the German navy is Ein Elfer mit einem Schlauch ist gefährlicher als ein Affe mit einem Maschinengewehr. In English, this would be A sailor cleaning the deck with a water hose is more dangerous than a monkey with a machine gun — a bunch of clowns in a position of real political power is obviously anything but harmless.
Yes it will soon be up to Gates to decide whether you have the right to be alive and if so for how long.
Can someone please explain how we got here from 2019 and what ever happened to our Parliament our politicians and our Legal system?
Best guess.. overwhelming compromat. They learnt well.
There is overwhelming kompromat concerning William Gates III.
Our politicians swallowed the blue pill and have stuffed wads of dirty money into their pockets.
A cynical assessment would be: The boombabies are by far the largest generational cohort because they’re the last generation before universal chemical contraception became they default mode of operation of society. By 2020 (and obviously, now as well) they were either bordering the so-called Corona high-risk groups or already in it. Due to their numbers, they’re also the most important voter group.
Now for the prize question: What will a democratically elected politician do if a guy called Ferguson tells him You must absolutely do something because otherwise, loads and loads of your core voters will die! And by the way, here’s the method Chinese have employed to prevent that … ?
Yes it will soon be up to Gates to decide whether you have the right to be alive and if so for how long.
Too bloody right.
The UK Parliament and legal systems have been functioning entirely normally since 2019, including over COVID19 measures. For example by the latter part of the period in 2021 there were large votes of over 100 MPs against many government proposals The problem is not structural but ideological. Since Margaret Thatcher introduced the anthropogenic Climate Change agenda onto the world political scene in 1988 (partially to lend a pseudo moral slant to her government’s wholesale destruction of heavy industry and coal mining) environmentalism and it’s subset ultra-health have become the religion of choice of most of the population, including politicians. Children have been indoctrinated into it at school for decades now. The Green / ultra-health movement is intrinsically authoritarian and an already highly compliant UK public welcomed the wildly illiberal lockdowns and mask mandates with open arms. It does, of course, entirely suit the agenda of the overtly totalitarian Putin regime which you support on these boards (including over its brutal invasion of Ukraine) for the fundamental principles and benefits of multi-party liberal democracy to be continuously brought into question. The appalling consequences of the Coronavirus restrictions should be used to encourage a renewed faith in democracy and the vital importance… Read more »
Where have you been? Entirely normal functioning of Parliament and Judiciary?
They are functioning normally though under the auspices of the mass adoption (by both politicians and general public) of the authoritarian Green / health religion which effectively creates a single party state regarding many vitally important issues such as Climate Change and public health (though as I indicated before a chink in this armour has arisen with the creation of dissenting Conservative parliamentary organisations such as the Net Zero Scrutiny and Covid Recovery Groups).
It is vital that what is a massive ideological problem is not confused with a fundamental weakness in the principles and practice of multi-party liberal democracy (not in themselves perfect but at least heading in the right direction) which offer a peaceful route out of these green and ultra-health dead ends.
On the other hand no genuine dissent or democratically achieved changes of direction possible in eg China or Russia.
Sounds like Jupiter to me
They’re all in on it desperate for a seat at the big table. Have you not witness personally how even the slightest modicum of power corrupts – even down to the butch old stewardess screaming at you to “PUT YOUR MASK ON” before bordering HER plane???
On that point, I have just read that Russia’s State Duma plans to discuss Russian withdrawal from the WHO (and from the WTO). The person cited is Pyotr Tolstoy, the vice speaker. I haven’t been able to verify this yet.
If so, that would be interesting indeed.
It’s been reported in a number of sources. This is from EuroWeekly:
“Exit from the World Trade Organisation (WTO) and the World Health Organisation (WHO) will be considered among other organisations,” said Russia’s State Duma deputy speaker Pyotr Tolstoy, as reported by Russian news agency Kommersant.
“He said all the proposals would be analysed jointly with the Federation Council. According to Tolstoy, it is necessary to review the treaties, “which do not bring benefits but direct harm” to the country.
“Russia has withdrawn from the Council of Europe, and now it is next in line to withdraw from the WTO and the WHO, which have neglected all their obligations towards our country,” he claims.
Good on the Russians.
I find the suggestion of withdrawing from the WHO very interesting indeed.
They are saying that the treaty with the WHO brings “direct harm” to Russia.
Oh for an investigative journalist to explore this and a journal with major public reach to publish it!
But no, all we’ll get in the West is either no discussion at all of the matter, or its dismissal as a “Putin tantrum”.
It seems to me that the Russian approach to politics is far more evidence-based than ours, and more carefully reasoned.
It took them more than eight years to act with regard to events in the Ukraine, which had been understandably of great concern for even longer than that.
The Russians were too slow to react. Kiev was pounding the Donbas with 2000 shells a day by mid February and so Russia could no longer turn a blind eye. Hopefully Russia will now see this through to the bitter end.
Have you seen this? Interesting discussion on current attitudes:
Kremlin hardliners and the Special Military Operation – YouTube
I think that Putin’s most recent comments are particularly striking (from 20.40).
To me, they indicate that the Russians are indeed determined to see it through. Given their history, I think they understand that they have no alternative that will ensure their survival.
Does Russia accept asylum seekers from the European Nightnare?
If the WHO put lockdown in their pandemic guidance does that mean that Boris and the Tories will do the opposite?
I don’t understand the rules any more.
One rule : Johnson bows down low to Biden, Globalists, Gates, Schwab and China .
Rule two: you, me and millions of others should never bow down low to Johnson.
Indeed David; the evidence is there but few are interested. We need rid of Johnson and his cronies then we might have a chance of opening eyes and minds to the threat posed by the globalists.
While I agree with you, who is going to replace Johnson? His cronies or worse. Can you imagine Labour getting in? Or the Greens?
We’re in a complete bind until such time as our elections cease to be a shiny turd contest and there’s a decent alternative to the bunch of wasters currently in charge or waiting in the wings
There are alternatives – too many of them. None of them have the ghost of a chance on their own but don’t have any interest in forming something workable together. Cameron and his co-horts stole a seat from Nigel and destroyed UKIP. Our chance for something better is gone.
bends over more like
Rules are not there for you to understand, MrTea. Just do as you are told.
The new rules are going to be mass civil disobedience and complete ignoring of the WHO clowns.
That doesn’t mean ignoring real pandemics, it means not recognising the authority of the WHO to rule over us.
If that means the death sentence for Bill Gates, no-one who is sanguine about murdering Russians in their hundreds of thousands should have any qualms about eliminating a US citizen who is a sociopath, a billionaire and a clear and present danger to all decent humanity.
I’ll drink to that!
Is this why Johnson is now giving tasers to part-time (amateur) Cops?
In fact cattle prods would surely now be more “appropriate”.
A Revelation??
Are you taking the Michael? I’d have bet richy sunaks wifes business interests on them maintaining these totally useless protocols when it comes to ‘controlling’ a virus but ace at controlling the masses…. Or so they think, hubristic fools.
Feel free anyone who wants to correct any grammatical errors regarding apostrophies, I’m beyond caring.
You’re OK. None of us have any idea where his wife keeps her apostrophes.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/614335
I signed, but why the referendum qualifier?!
I thought exactly the same thing. “The public” will absolutely let this fly through. Might as well add “Unless it is Following The Science™”
Bunch of utter bastards need to be shot.
Sadly we were emasculated by successive mass shootings that allowed Governments to deprive us of the right to defend ourselves against excesses of Government interference in our lives.
Indeed; now we know why the US people have their Second Amendment. Obviously its drafters had the necessary foresight.
Yes, but it’s a start, and it’s an existing petition. I’ve also written to the PM and noted that any hookup on this matter with the WHO is out of the question, given that they are in essence a Chinese NGO and that Tedros is a criminal
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/who-chief-tedros-adhanom-ghebreyesus-may-face-genocide-charges-2fbfz7sff
https://frankreport.com/2020/04/14/the-ethiopian-terrorist-in-charge-of-the-world-health-organization-dr-tedros-adhanom/
https://www.nazret.com/2017/05/14/dr-tedros-accused-of-covering-up-epidemics-new-york-times/
Also, asking a referendum ties in with what Cameron did whilst try to avoid a Brexit referendum was to put on the statute books that any further attempts by the EU to dilute our sovereignty would automatically trigger a referendum. I reminded the PM of this and noted it must also apply to the same by any unelected unaccountable supranational NGO.
And added some links to the damage the sociopath Gates has down with his must jab everyone all the time mania
https://healthimpactnews.com/2014/bill-melinda-gates-foundation-vaccine-empire-on-trial-in-india/
https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/09/04/who-forced-to-admit-gates-funded-vaccine-is-causing-polio-outbreak-in-africa/
I’m sure the PM will hang on your every word and won’t just go along with the international groupthink.
He’s vying for a seat at the big table, he’s not gonna give a flying f…
Because it is establishing a narrative. The petition will have been posted by the Behavioural Insights Team.
What better way to enshrine lockdowns into law than a referendum which will be massaged by propaganda.
Those who sign it believe they are striking a blow against external interference from the WHO. Those who manage the subsequent referendum get their public endorsement for lockdowns without the bothersome need to address the growing data demonstrating the ineffectiveness of lockdowns as a public measure.
It is classic government; plausibly deniable because the public asked for it.
Why would they go to the bother when Boris can do whatever he wants with the full backing of the Labour party?
This is about getting the backing of the public, who will then have no one to blame when it all goes pear shaped, as it will.
Yes indeed. No referendum and no treaty, simple really.
I signed that, too, but I have to concur with the Why referendum? remark as I’m a firm believer in Bismarck’s Vox populi, vox Rindvieh.
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A malapropism of vox populi, vox dei, The Voice of the people is the voice of God. Literally, Rindvieh means cattle. It’s really a pleonasm, because both Rinder and Vieh already mean that. It’s usually used to refer to a stupid person in a somewhat affectionate way. An English transliteration of the phrase could be something like If you ask a million oxen for their opinion on anything, the outcome will be a loud mooing.
So there you have it Toby! After your last ‘London’s Calling’ podcast and your slightly derisory tone towards James, who was particularly curmudgeony and recalicitrant, I will admit. His insrtincts are right. Us boiling frogs need to wake up!!
100% right.
Delingpole right from day one , Toby’s 1970s “Guardian’ style ‘cautious optimism’ just a trap to ease us passively into total servitude.
“They don’t really mean it!” Oh yes they do!
I thought their spat was entertaining, but have to confess I was very surprised at Toby’s defence of not being worried about this. With or without a treaty, the government always relied on “the WHO say it’s what we should do” mantra whenever it backed up their ridiculous anti-Covid reaction. It becomes worse if it is mandatory.
As to Toby suggesting that any treaty would require Parliament approval, well, relying on the party-whipped MPs to argue anything different is rather naive and optimistic in the extreme. Anyway, they’ve passed equally odious treaties before.
This will only end after the money has completely run out Zimbabwe-style and chaos reigns everywhere.
If common sense had any relevance in today’s world this “news” would make it abundantly clear that the last people to have any useful input in to world health and well being are members of the WHO.
I’ll just say I’m going to a ‘work event’.
World Hell Organisation
Wannabe Health Ogres
Johnson is intent on handing them the keys to the Kingdom on a plate.
Anyone in the UK Parliament at all interested?
World Homicide Organisation
Of course they have.
It’s ok though because there never was a pandemic,
I definitely think WHO and their global cohorts should be locked down as part of the official guidance, or many people will suffer
What fresh hell is this?
This goes beyond bonkers to simply malevolent. When will an armed resistance start?
“Signing an on-line petition is mightier than the sword.”
Except any IMF “emergency” fundng will be contingent on following the WHO guidelines, as it was for the SARS-COV-2 nonsense.
I know quite a lot of folk who say ‘Ah its the the WHO, its non-binding, and if it’ll take them years to type it up anyway. Its nothing to worry about’. Well my friends, we have had two disastrous years following junk and corrupt ‘science’ led by the WHO. Our politicians have absolved themselves of responsibility, and the scientists who are not elected and not directly responsible for what they have done, have pursued ‘THE SCIENCE’. This may be a nothing-burger in some respects. However, it also provides a standarised framework, AGAINST our own National Plans, and AGAINST our own National Interests, that supports all the actions that have been so completely harmful; to us. It matters nothing if it is binding. The politicians will ‘follow’ this science as surely as they follow anything that will absolve them of responsibility. The Don had it right when he tried to ditch the WHO, and now we are allowing them (…and in fact Bill Gates, now his new book tells us what to do. More of the same, essentially.) to dictate the policy. The fact that NO-ONE from the media is even talking about this, ought to be ringing bloody big… Read more »
GB News is, especially Mark Steyn to be fair.
He is, but Mark Steyn is hardly ‘mainstream’. There isn’t seemingly any discussion in parliament about it either.
Once Bozo signs up to this, and he will, every single member of parliament becomes redundant.
Every single one.
They are only oligarch place men and they will do just what they are told.
Isn’t it time for some serious political resistance to this obvious bid to instal Globalist Health Fascism, designed principally to crush the people into he dirt?
All those “Conspiracy Theorists ” being proved right again?
Bottom line: Johnson has sold us out to the Gates/Chinese Tedros WHO!
China has just given us the theatrical example of Shanghai ( how come there are suddenly so many pictures when normally nothing comes out of China?) to illustrate what it wants its man Tedros to make “Lockdowns” look like in the West to take us down, while creepy Vaccine Man Gates is now clearly mentally deranged.
These demented, power crazed freaks are declaring war on the peoples of the world, while the sheep and all but 120 UK MPs are still in total denial.
At least this may get through to enough people, even Lockdown lovers surely don’t wan’t a version of Shanghai coming their way. Anyway, we may be too economically fucked to partake in anymore of these measures. At least something good would come out of a recession, including woke clap trap that only rich countries can afford to pursue.
Our economic situation is that for the WEF Reset to work, our currency HAS to become worthless. Any normal connections between actions and consequences has gone to the wall. These are not mistakes. These are calculated actions.
As for Lockdown lovers, I am truly aghast at how many people are still masked against a mild throat infection that they are highly unlikely to get. As soon as Boris appears on the TV telling us Monkey Pox is out of control and we have to mask up because the WHO told us to, 90% will jump for joy…
We need to lock up the members of WHO and throw away the key
And the people who caused the 2008 collapse. They are partly responsible for the mess we’re in now, because they’re not in Jail.
They’re very much alive and running the Bank for International Setttlements, i.e. the club for Central Bankers.
I’d prefer a permanent remedy.
‘Inflation is the rate at which prices are rising. For example, if a bottle of milk costs £1 and that rises by 9p, then milk inflation is 9%.’
Oh really? never knew
An explanation for the plebs in a BBC cost of living article
I doubt they will let the idiots know that the inflation was caused by the ****s printing money
Inflation is an expansion of the money supply. Prices ultimately reflect reality.
and debt is now money and they want us as loaded with debt as possible.
Every £ or $ created is created as debt. The world is in debt to itself.
Prices reflect what buyers competing for a limited supply of actually valuable products (including services) are willing to pay. Corona policies drastically increased the amount of available money while decreasing the amount of actually valuable products. This increases buyer competition, hence, prices go up.
This is still an oversimplification, but the so-called cost of living crisis is a direct effect of the so-called Corona crisis: Goverments printing money doesn’t really help anyone. It’s basically just a method the government can employ to swindle its creditors.
Correct. They printed money for years when they should have been increasing interest rates. Then the lockdowns stopped people spending while also shutting down production (in the UK but not China). Now we have a cost push inflation added to a demand pull, which means we are heading for “stagflation”.
If only they would simply f*** off and leave us alone we would be a lot better off.
This is a superb example of propaganda in action.
While everyone on here argues about the WHO interfering in our national sovereignty, we are encouraged to assert our national independence. The debate will focus on this; the alternative to the WHO dictating our pandemic response is the government.
But no one will remember the state shouldn’t be doing it either. The last two years we have witnessed the destruction of our economy and liberty. No one should be allowed to do this.
Importantly, we still see zero discussion about medical treatments like ivermectin, or preventative methods, like vitamin d and losing weight.
Classic propaganda.
You’re right on the button again.
Some of the things you mention have been discussed here at length, but nevertheless your main thrust is spot on. They have no moral right to do what they have been doing over the past two years. We are sovereign beings and not their playthings. People have to learn to say no just fvuk off.
I thought Tedros quoted ‘Lockdown’s are unsustainable’, in regards to what is happening in Shanghai. They censored him for this apparently. Or is this just to lower our guard.
That’s it, I’m outta here … movin’ to Florida, In Santos We Trust.
A computer salesman who apologised for frequently visiting a bad man (cough), is the biggest individual donor to the World Health Organisation (WHO) – who want to take control of 194 countries sovereign health laws during a pandemic. This isn’t democracy, it’s technocratic totalitarianism.
Off topic but has anyone else noticed the high levels of radiation close to Pripyat? currently 5540 nSv/h
I’ve searched for the auto monitoring data and can’t find it. Do you have a link?
No government has had ouir authority and Parliament has had no authority to permit them to sign up to subjugation by the international; political class, of which WHO is becoming one of the most offensive.
Better Off Outr of the UN if this is what they are about, and I have no doubt that it is what they want. Just as with the EU, this has been done TO the British people not for us or with our approval or even our knowledge.
Even the Brexit argument was a diversion. To a great extent the EU was a middle man passing on the diktats of higher level supranational bodies – UN, WTO, IMF, World bank, WHO, and so on. Now we get the diktats direct. That’s why it makes f*** all difference whether we are in or out of the EU or whether we have a Labour or a Conservative Government.
Is this the same WHO whose guidance until recently said that lockdowns don’t work for pandemics?
It can’t be, can it?
And the same WHO that is contyrolled by the CCP, apparently.
Before they lock us down for MonkeyBumPox, has anyone found out how many of the infected are jab addicts?
Remember all the hypocrisy and illogical bumblings of our leaders over the past two years? Yeah that was all deliberately staged theatre to be later referenced as the reason why the WHO should take control next time.
Astute observation.
Not a conspiracy or theory. It’s in plain sight!!!
https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/talks-at-gs/richard-haass.html
“World Order 2.0.” God save us.
Its about time that people generally realised that this is but the latest small step in something that has been affecting their lives for at least the last 3 decades.
Almost all aspects of people’s lives are governed by trans national agreements under the auspices of the UN and their offshoots. All nations and international bodies such as the EU have signed on to these. The ordinary person has no ,absolutely no influence in these agreements. You may vote for a different national government, you may try to influence the likes of the EU , but its not them that decide these policies.
Read Iain Davies, he has it right. The power in the world, at least in the anglosphere and EU, is in the hands of the unelected matrix of organisations associated with the UN, the corporates, the investment banks , the central banks, and a small group of billionaires.
The WHO is one of these organisations, but there are many others all determining your lives.
Today’s top tip: Don’t bother writing to your MP regarding the WHO pandemic treaty. This is the response being sent out: Thank you for contacting me about a potential new international Pandemic Treaty. The COVID-19 pandemic has been one of the greatest challenges to the established international order since the Second World War; a global threat that has required global solutions borne out of global cooperation. It has been immensely heartening to have seen the peoples and nations of the world pull together as they have. I pay tribute to all, everywhere. As in the late 1940s, where, to avert a repeat of the cataclysm of total war, world leaders came together to establish the multilateral system we have today, I think it is reasonably fair to argue that a similar effort is required on the part of world leaders to strengthen preparedness for potential future pandemics. As such, I welcome the suggestion of the Prime Minister, writing with other world leaders last year, that the international community should commit to producing a new international treaty for pandemic preparedness and response. I am told that such a treaty would aim to foster greatly enhanced cooperation in future pandemics, by further… Read more »
This is the required response. The Chief Whip, and MP Laura Farris have replied verbatim.
This is very useful. It means that letters can be carefully crafted to address all of the points which are made…
But they still won’t take any notice. It has been decided and it will be ratified. Both wings of the LabCon party will go along with the international groupthink.
Yes, absolutely.
Spouting off about convid as “the greatest challenge since the Second World War” just goes to show MPs really are ventriloquist’s dummies.
Indeed.
I did say it was a waste of time writing to your MP.
Of course, I already knew it was. Doesn’t hurt for them to know we have their number though.
What is the point of signing the Petition? A recent survey of results has clearly shown that petitions are simply a sop to the people, and are routinely ignored….
What’s the point of not doing it? If nothing else, it’s a way to feed some real-world information about how … people think about a certain issue into the political machinery. This may and likely will be of no immediate use. But it’s at least one thing people can easily do.
Readers’ comments in The Daily Mail also shape the world we live in…… so it is said.
“What is the point of signing the Petition?”
So you can tell others you have, and feel all righteous about your virtue signalling.
“At least I tried to do something – what have you done??!!”, they screech, in the hope of gaining some more ‘street cred’ and Brownie points.
Yes it is referenda we need