More Reasons to Doubt the Covid Vaccines Really Deliver 90% Protection Against Death

The UKHSA’s latest vaccine surveillance report includes this table on page 11:

Fig 1

In essence, it claims ongoing efficacy against death from COVID-19 at about 88% following three vaccinations for the over 50 year-olds. Does this mean that in the absence of the vaccines we would expect deaths of the triple-vaccinated to be 8.3 times higher than it has been? Let’s assemble some data from Government sources and see if this can really be true.

Up until week 13 2022, the UKHSA used to report deaths from Covid by age and vaccine status. Fig 2 reproduces this last data table. The absolute numbers may have changed in the five weeks since then but the relative rates of death in the various groups had been fairly stable for the weeks prior to this and I suspect they still are.

Fig 2

We can see from table 13b, taken from the week 13 vaccine surveillance report, that Covid deaths amongst the unvaccinated over-50s accounted for 289 of the 3,944 over-50 deaths, that’s 7% of the total. How does this compare with the proportion of people in the 50-plus age cohort who have been vaccinated? Well, Fig 3 below shows the rate of vaccination by five year age-cohorts for a single dose of vaccine and Fig 4 shows the vaccination rate for a third dose of vaccine.

Fig 3

Fig 4

About 92% of the over 50s had a first dose and about 85% have gone on to have a first booster. If, as the UKHSA tells us, the vaccines confer about an 88% efficacy against death, you would expect the unvaccinated to die at over eight times the rate that the unvaccinated die. But they don’t. As Fig 2 shows us, the unvaccinated account for only 7% of the deaths. The table also tells us that of the 3,944 deaths of the over-50s, 3,003 of them (76%) were of the triple vaccinated; 562 of the deaths (14%) were of the double vaccinated but unboosted, and 79 (2%) were of those who only ever had one dose of vaccine. Going back to Fig 3 and 4, we can see that the difference between the percentage of people single dosed and triple dosed is about 7% (92%-85%=7%), yet they appear to account for about 16% of all of the deaths in the period covered by the report. It isn’t the unvaccinated who appear to die in disproportionate numbers, but the vaccinated who haven’t had a booster.

Certainly, the UKHSA data don’t seem to support the UKHSA’s own claim of 88% efficacy against death. But, for the sake of argument, I’m prepared to go along with the UKHSA and others who claim that perhaps the unvaccinated are a self-selecting group of fitter people, less susceptible to Covid or that they do a better job of isolating themselves or that they wear military grade gas masks and that consequently, even though it doesn’t look like it, it’s still true that vaccines are incredibly beneficial. Let’s look at it from another direction. Surely it follows that if 90% of the population weren’t vaccinated and if the vaccines had approaching a 90% efficacy against death then in the absence of vaccines the current death rate would be 8.3 times higher than it is? Let’s have a look.

Fig 5

Fig 5 shows the profile of deaths in the U.K. from Covid over the past two years or so. One of the more striking features of the chart is that deaths this May are around 20 times more than they were last May. Should this surprise us? Well, considering that about a further 100 million doses of vaccine have been injected into the arms of the U.K. population since then. And, given that in May 2021 two thirds of the infections were of the Alpha and one third of the Delta variant, both considered far more virulent than today’s 99%-prevalence Omicron. And, that the majority of the population have had Covid thus acquiring natural immunity, then I would argue that yes, it should surprise us! It certainly isn’t a ringing endorsement of 88% efficacy against death.

Let’s now see what happens if we multiply deaths since January 1st 2022 by 8.3 times. Fig 6 shows where we would expect deaths to be in the absence of vaccines. Without vaccines, are we really saying that deaths this month would have reached twice the peak rate ever achieved, back in the days before any vaccines.

Fig 6

Of the under-40s, only about 70% ever got a first dose of the vaccine. Booster take up is below 50% and everyone knows plenty of both the vaccinated and unvaccinated who’ve had Covid and are hard pushed to identify any difference in severity of symptoms or likelihood of infection. The fact that about 25% of the under-40s have opted not to get the booster should alarm the health authorities as it looks all too likely that they’ve overplayed their hand and created a vast group who have become vaccine hesitant. There are a lot of us who believe that we’ve been oversold and coerced into taking a medical intervention that we didn’t need. The consequences look likely to haunt us for a generation.

And just in case you thought British exceptionalism may account for the apparent failure of the vaccines to deliver high levels of protection against death even in the event of a benign variant, high levels of natural immunity and improvements in case management, then just look at the comparative death rates pre- and post- vaccine in Israel, South Africa, the EU and in the USA. Israel has had very high rates of vaccination yet deaths peaked at a higher rate after the vaccine rollout. South Africa has had a relatively low rate of vaccine take-up yet its death rates have been getting ever smaller. In the EU and USA numbers there may be some vaccine impact but it doesn’t look like a game changer, certainly not when we factor in natural immunity and more benign variants.   

Hard as I look, I can’t see that the vaccines have delivered the claimed 90% protection against death and I think there’s a lot of people who agree with me.

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Catee
3 years ago

‘Does this mean that in the absence of the vaccines we would expect deaths of the triple-vaccinated to be 8.3 times higher than it has been?’

Does this mean.. Of the triple vaxxed if they hadn’t been?
It may well be lack of sleep but it doesn’t make sense to me, help!

TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Yes indeed. Not very credible, eh?

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

It means that if the efficacy of the snake venom was really 90% then the death rate of those who have had three doses would have been 8.3 times higher if they had not had the snake venom. But the death rate of their unvaccinated cohort isn’t 8.3 times higher.

Catee
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Thanks, I think that’s what I meant, just didnt express it well.
I am intrigued by all the downticks, are we ‘not allowed’ to say that something is not well explained?

John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

This is the Internet, where the power to downtick (rather than contribute to an argument or discussion) is a Yooman Right.

Gregoryno6
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Downtickers are a phenomenon related to the Greater Internet Fwad Theory.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

I am intrigued by all the downticks, are we ‘not allowed’ to say that something is not well explained?

Don’t even think about it, Catee – that way madness lies!

We have a few individuals here whose downtick is a badge of honour. They can be offended by anything, and this is the closest they can get on this site to a form of cancel culture.

ebygum
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

It’s a badge of honour! It means you are getting under their skin, but they have no alternative argument or opinion…wear the down-tick with pride I say……!

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

Absolutely; one of the most enjoyable activities in the current climate is to identify ‘Offendables’ and do all we can to offend them 🤣

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

and that’s the “COVID” death rate…

If you did the same on All-cause mortality I wonder just how dangerous the coerced medical intervention would be shown!

John Dee
3 years ago

It’s been done. Check out this table, and click the top of the column to sort on Absolute Change.
Then check where the UK as an entity compares to other European countries. It’s interestingly quite different from the MSM narrative.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-average-baseline?tab=table&country=GTM~PRT~GBR~DEU~FRA~GRC~ISR~SWE~ITA~USA~RUS~NZL~AUS

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

With England and Wales so much lower than UK, that leaves Scotland as being terrible!

Low Vitamin D or High SNP?

It’s a pity we can’t get all cause death by jabbed/unjabbed and age status.

John Dee
3 years ago

Even then, it’s only those areas of Scotland that are the usual suspects that have given the stats a tilt for the worse.
Since Nicola is determined to price them out of drinking, smoking and mainlining lardy-cakes, they’ll either die of starvation compounded by boredom or become a super-healthy enclave of enthusiastic SNP voters.

Old Maid
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

It is. Very different. Might it explain why, for instance, Denmark has called off its jab programme, other than for those with compromised immune systems (and for which the ‘4th plug’ must be prescribed by a physician)? Why doesn’t someone interview the head of Denmark’s Statens Serum Institute and find out precisely WHY they’ve taken this decision?

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

 3 minutes from preparation to job done!! Everything else you have read, or heard, is totally irrelevant – how simple is that? Covid Crusher: Mix one heaped teaspoon of Iodine table salt in a mug of warm clean water, cup a hand and sniff or snort the entire mugful up your nose, spitting out anything which comes down into your mouth. If sore, then you have a virus, so continue morning noon and night, or more often if you want, until the soreness goes away (2-3 minutes) then blow out your nose and flush away, washing your hands afterwards, until when you do my simple cure, you don’t have any soreness at all, when you flush – job done. Also swallow a couple of mouthfuls of salt water and if you have burning in your lungs, salt killing virus and pneumonia, there too. My simple salt water cure, kills all Coronaviruses and viruses, as soon as you think you have an infection, or while self isolating, before the viruses mutate into the disease in your head and body, for which there is no cure – that is, after you have been out shopping, or mixing with people with potentially, Omicron… Read more »

janvanruth
janvanruth
3 years ago
Reply to  Richard Noakes

i never snorted salt water for over 40 years.
never was sick from viruses.
mind you, i have been eating rhubarb every year on christmas eve for over 50 years!
as my 50 years top your 28,5 years eating rhubarb is the better way to go!

RTSC
RTSC
3 years ago

And this is the result with Omicron, which is a far milder variant than Alpha and Delta. If Geert Vanden Bossche is correct (https://thehighwire.com/videos/the-vanden-bossche-warning/ ) and mass vaccination of the healthy results in a far more lethal variant for the vaccinated whose natural immunity has been shot to pieces by repeated jabs, it’s going to get very nasty.

amanuensis
3 years ago
Reply to  RTSC

It’ll probably take a bit longer to come than suggested by GVB — possibly next autumn / winter.

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  RTSC

“And this is the result with Omicron, which is a far milder variant than Alpha and Delta.”

I don’t even believe that – just another lie spread by governments & ‘health authorities’,
Boris Johnson told everyone the ‘Kent variant’ was 70% more contagious that the ‘original Wuhan virus’…. and then it just disappeared, never to be seen again. Still, what fun they had scaring half of London to flee from that city on trains before The Christmas Lockdown!
Headless chickens running away from the threat of Police fines and being snitched on by their neighbours.

Were people ‘moronic’ by believing in ‘Omicron’ ? Looks that way! You’ve been had.

acle
acle
3 years ago

What I fail to understand, when it comes to the vaccines lessening the impact of Covid and protection from death, is how exactly did they manage to measure this in trials? And when Chris Whitty said in March 2020, that this would be a mild disease for the majority, why exactly does everyone on this earth need to be vaccinated? (No need to answer these questions)

The ‘vaccines’ are total junk and should be called out as such. At best they do nothing and at worse they are causing Covid and a whole host of other issues.

Articles like these just give credence to the whole sorry show.

amanuensis
3 years ago
Reply to  acle

The trials only measured protection against symptomatic disease.

All other data comes from biased post-hoc analysis. I do go on about TNCC, but it is a real point — their chosen method (they use it all the time) is flawed when it comes to the covid vaccines, and is significantly over-estimating VE for infection and hospitalisation.

Mortality is more complex, but analysis of deaths figures shows that only the most recent dose offers ‘protection’, and that those with ‘fewer doses’ have higher mortality rates than the unvaccinated — this is probably an artefact caused by those closest to death not being vaccinated.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

“The trials only measured protection against symptomatic disease.”

This has me stumped. How do we measure protection against an infection with no symptoms?

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

You’ve got to want to see it, hp. Try harder, please. And when you’ve figured it out, let us know.

NickR
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

You have to look at the ‘success criteria’, this was covered extensively in The Daily Sceptic at the time. Success was deemed to be a reduction in symptoms, the trials never claimed either reduction in infectiousness or death, it was just, & still is, implied.

A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

It almost sounds like a Ponzi scheme

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

It’s worse.

It’s smashing windows while putting other window protection services out of business and then selling your services as a glazier!

/Bastiat

A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  acle

They are clearly repeat offenders and need to be locked up.

paulnb
paulnb
3 years ago

On this basis, you’d have to be mad to have a third dose. And probably just as mad to have even bothered with the ‘vaccines’ in the first place. .

TheGreenAcres
3 years ago
Reply to  paulnb

I think what it says is that if you where suckered into having one or two jabs then you face an unpleasant choice. You are at a much greater risk of death unless either:

1) You keep getting boosted every 6 months for the rest of your life.
or
2) Try to survive without having any more and hope your immune system recovers over time.

Having had two jabs but not a booster appears to be the worst of both worlds at the moment.

J4mes
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

The entire covid story (fraud) is built with lies upon lies. I’m of the belief these fake vaccines do nothing positive for the recipient.

1) You keep getting boosted every 6 months for the rest of your life.

For those who do this, regardless of whether you believe the fake vaccine is safe – you have to question what it is doing to the recipients body.

A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

It’s copying HMG and making things much worse.

twinkytwonk
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Six months? Mrs twinkytwonk has just been offered her fith jab! She stopped at three after….. Catching covid 🤣

TheGreenAcres
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Hence my comment about it being an unpleasant choice. Lets assume that whatever boost to antibodies the booster provides does offer some limited protection for up to 90 days (being generous here) but comes with all the downsides.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

So glad I’m pureblood!

TheGreenAcres
3 years ago

Me too!

Nick Flatt
Nick Flatt
3 years ago

Ditto!

stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  paulnb

Well, luckily for our leaders and bureaucrats our population has gone mad. Or have driven into madness, rather, by 2 years of following illogical and incoherent rules.

When you are forced to do something that makes no sense you can either rebel or abandon rational thinking and simply become an obedient servant.

That is what most of the population is now, unthinking obedient servants.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  paulnb

The bottom line – standard vaccines take at least ten years from inception to authorisation; these gunk products went from start to finish in ooh let’s guess twelve months. This does not compute.

John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I was told (by a ‘scientist’) that the timescale was abbreviated because what normally takes time is the getting of funding, whereas it was readily available in this case.
That sounded like buffalo dung at the time, and it hasn’t smelled any better in the interim, as we’ve learned more about the vaxxes and Mr Gates.

Dodgy Geezer
Dodgy Geezer
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

What takes time is the testing for rare adverse effects which only become obvious after a year or so. That is why such testing can take years to complete.

Your ‘scientist’ was either amazingly ill-informed, or he was lying to you…

Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  paulnb

All very likely and of course some people were warning that it was a scam from the very outset. Even so the great bulk of the unthinking public gratefully rolled up their sleeves for the worse than dodgy injected snake oil.

stewart
3 years ago

The problem isn’t that there isn’t data to show that the jabs aren’t really helpful.

The problem is that policy and decision making has been hijacked and is following an agenda that cannot be derailed by facts or evidence.

There was also lots of evidence that covid was only a danger to the old and vulnerable, and that masks don’t do anything and that tests are unreliable

Has it changed policy? No.

TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Surely the problem is the data.

If the data keeps showing the injections are wonderful then there surely is little need to speculate why they try to get them in as many arms as possible.

stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenGoblin

I don’t think so. You can produce data to support almost any narrative.

Take the risk of COVID. If I want to downplay the danger of COVID I can say that at most COVID increases your probability of dying by 0.1% and actually much less than that if you are under 60. If I make that my talking point and push it relentlessly, not too many people will get worried about COVID.

If on the other hand I want to scare everyone into thinking COVID is very dangerous I, create a definition of “COVID death” that gets me the maximum number of deaths, I set up a death counter and present the total number of deaths with no context or explanation. As they did.

The problem isn’t the data. It never has been. The problem is that there is a pre-determined agenda which is proving impossible to derail.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Looking at the Gompertz curve and fitting by hand (so not very accurate) I’d say having a symptomatic SARS2 infection makes you appear 3 years older for the duration of your infection (2 weeks max the rest is auto immune over-reaction), I’d guess flu would be about 4 years?.

Dodgy Geezer
Dodgy Geezer
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Actually there IS a problem with the data – which is when it doesn’t say the right thing it is concealed or fiddled…

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

The problem is that policy and decision making has been hijacked and is following an agenda that cannot be derailed by facts or evidence.”
HS2 etc.

My only conclusion. The state is not run by the people who claim to run the state.

TheGreenAcres
3 years ago

Possibly related to the stupid way they classify a covid death as anyone who has tested positive recently regardless of what they actually died from.

With Omicron being pretty much everywhere they are now being damned by their own fear-inducing methodology that they deliberately selected. They probably can’t change that now without raising uncomfortable questions.

TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
3 years ago

You might look at little deeper at how these effectiveness numbers are calculated. They are using “test-negative case control” studies. Essentially you look at all PCR tests taken in a period, and then compare the percentage of positive tests in vaccinated and unvaccinated subjects.

It probably doesn’t take much thought to see how this could go horribly wrong. If proportionately more uninfected vaccinated people get tested, it would make the vaccines look more effective than reality. If course this is quite likely as vaccinated people would seem much more likely to be concerned about their covid status, as evidenced by their decision to get vaccinated.

Another convenient choice from our ever-impartial bureaucracy.

PS None of the cited studies appear to cover the effectiveness of the vaccines against death from omicron to support the claims made in the table.

A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago

Immune systems are now impaired (not improved) by the vaccine. Why HMG would have difficulty seeing this is beyond me, the evidence is everywhere. You lost nearly all your seats in the local elections, the message is Get Lost we’ve had enough.

TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

I don’t think vaccines have anything to do with votes cast. If Starmer was in Number Ten the jabs would’ve been going into arms just as fast if not faster.

A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenGoblin

You’re quite right I got carried away and conflated their overall incompetence with vaccines, an easy mistake, please forgive me

amanuensis
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

The one thing that truly scares me is the risk of Starmer getting into power — they’d happily have jackboots around the country shoving syringes in people.

The lack of serious opposition to the covid measures is one of the most frightening aspects of this pandemic — the recent WHO moves for a ‘global pandemic response’ puts this on steroids.

A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

What a team they would make

stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

Hearing TY trying to challenge this on his podcast with Delingpole was depressing. It’s as if he’s oblivious to how policy is set and pushed on a global scale. His argument that it won’t be legally binding is just so weak. The UK wasn’t legally bound to push for lockdowns, masks, tests or jabs, but the pressure of “everyone is doing it so you should too” was more than enough. A WHO treaty, or whatever form it takes, takes that level of pressure to a higher level. It formalises that the UK will do whatever all other countries are doing, because it accepts it’s the best approach, even if it isn’t legally binding. And any country that doesn’t follow suit will become a pariah. That is how they get everyone on board. In fact, i would go as far as to say that the WHO prefer not to present it as legally binding because it will then get the sort of scrutiny that they don’t necessarily want. They know it’s enough that everyone agrees in principle because they’ll all be rushed into acting “the right way” when the moment comes. TY, like an idiot, celebrated that it wouldn’t even get… Read more »

vivaldi
vivaldi
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

TY seems to be adrift in dreamworld with fluffy white clouds, not the dark oppressive ones seen by others on this forum and others.

amanuensis
3 years ago

The data about the wonders of the vaccines reminds me of tractor production figures (etc) in the old USSR.

DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

Was it the politicians who said these ‘jabs’ would prevent death because the pharma companies were saying they wouldn’t even stop transmission just symptoms, something impossible to verify.

A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

We’ll probably never know. Didn’t the PCR tests work well, they could give you a positive diagnosis of covid without any symptoms at all. Another value for money exercise by HMG.

DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

Like all of the elderly removed from hospital with serious conditions to nursing homes where the staff, in the absence of a GP said the death ‘looks like covid’, no postmortem but death cert duly authorised, remotely.

A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Ahh the NHS, what a wonderful organisation, why would anyone want to travel to Switzerland

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

“wouldn’t even stop transmission just symptoms,”

Paracetamol does that though, and with fewer risks!

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
3 years ago

Anyone who uses the term ‘vaccine hesitant’ at this point is part of the problem. It is a propaganda tool, made up to imply that the person who is ‘hesitant’ is a silly, scared fool who just needs to be informed how wrong they are. At this point, anyone not willing to take the poison is a ‘vaccine rejector’, they know full well that it is useless at best, highly harmful at worst. As for the figures indicating some vaxx effect in the US and the EU – it is more likely that they’ve simply stopped counting every death going as a covid death. The US in particular was quite gung-ho in that respect, listing victims who died of gunshot wounds or motorcycle accidents as covid victims. The EU numbers are probably even more muddled, as the differences in how someone was counted as a covid death will differ significantly between the countries. Have a look at the covid deaths per million in NL and in Belgium and then explain how 2 very similar countries in terms of standard of living and health care, geography, etc. should have such a huge difference (Belgium is over 100% higher). You don’t need… Read more »

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

I term it iatrogenic malpractice hesitant

Rogerborg
3 years ago

Raises hand politely:

This entire article is based on accepting that after a positive test means from the coofs.

Garbage in = garbage out, no matter how much numberwang happens in the middle.

It’s interesting, without being in any way significant. Let’s please not accept this farcical premise selectively, when it happens to lead to a conclusion that we prefer.

TheGreenAcres
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

It begs the question; If they are using this data to calculate the VE then they are clearly rubbish. On the other hand, if they have some better data set, then why wouldn’t they release it?

PartyTime
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Yes, the vaccines are in effect being asked to prevent death from any cause in people who have had a positive test recently, regardless of the severity of their COVID experience.

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

Do we really need any more reasons?

What we need is for the dozing sheep to be informed of the dozens of already published reasons not to go near the clot shots, now shown without question to be both dangerous and ineffective – reasons which the Mainstream UK Media, censored by Ofcom, simply refuse to report and which (with the great exception of Mark Steyn on GB News) meekly trots out Official Government propaganda from this increasingly totalitarian and untruthful Johnson Government.

This same Government is now quietly seeking to hand mass Vaccine Mandate power to the Gates/WHO in violation of our national Sovereignty over health policy and our individual Human Rights!

Wake up time is getting short!

John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

The sheep, of course, never go anywhere near the ‘published reasons’, but one has to admire their fortitude (if that’s the word) as they queue for their fourth or fifth jab having had ‘covid’ and knowing other jabbed people who have experienced the same.
Their only ‘out’ is the mantra of ‘how much worse might it have been without my vaccinations?’

twinkytwonk
3 years ago

I don’t even know where they got a decent data set to show that people are less likely to die if vaccinated. The vaccine trials showed that in the groups and time period tested,vaccinated individuals were less likely to have symptoms. That’s it! That is the final conclusion of the only study conducted.

All the other data from the UK authorities is from a population which they don’t even know the size of, a variety of different covid testing protocols, those that die with or of covid are counted as the same ( is it possible to go to hospital and not catch covid?) an unmatched unvaccinated/vaccinated population to name but a few. It would be a laughable dataset at GCSE level.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

“The vaccine trials showed that in the groups and time period tested,vaccinated individuals were less likely to have symptoms. That’s it! “

They showed you were more likely to die if jabbed. All cause mortality was statistically significantly lower in the placebo group.

twinkytwonk
3 years ago

Interesting. Are they still tracking these people?

TheGreenAcres
3 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

If you mean the placebo group, no, they vaccinated them.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

I think they are tracking them rapidly 6 feet under.

“Misleading claims suggesting that more than 1,200 died after suffering adverse reactions to the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine have once again been spread on social media..While the report discussed adverse reactions to the vaccine in a 90-day period and the figures are genuine, the pharmaceutical company has said the documents do not link the vaccine as being responsible for the people’s death.”
This week, the first batch of that judge-ordered data was released. Despite predictable media spin disguised as “fact-checking”, the basic and rather shocking revelation that 1233 people died within 90 days of taking the Pfizer jab is true. This is contained within Pfizer’s own adverse events report:

https://maajidnawaz.substack.com/p/the-covid-vaccine-boomerang

TheBluePill
3 years ago

I have a friend who scored a positive during delta and was ill in bed for a couple of days. Now fully “vaxxed”, he is currently ill and has been bed-bound for the last week, currently having the much milder omicron variant. That would likely finish off an old, frail person. It absolutely screams ADE to me (increased severity with a milder variant), on top of OAS (catching it repeatedly).

When I next see him, I can be sure that the first words out of his mouth will be “imagine how bad it would have been without the vaccines”. It doesn’t make him at all curious that my household has not had any experimental “jabs”, have never worn muzzles, have socialised, travelled and been totally “wreckless” in ignoring the “deadly pandemic”, yet still we cannot see to even catch the batflu once. It also wouldn’t concern him that of my extended “unvaxxinated” family who have had the lurgy, the most serious symptom so far has been a mild headache.

John001
John001
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

To be fair, between 20% and 40% of us don’t seem to catch it, vacd or unvacd.

Whitty predicted this in 2020, clearly on a day when he was talking sense.

Other people have been less fortunate. A friend’s mother (79) died suddenly on Monday of a massive stroke, having gone downhill at a faster rate since early 2021. Both her parents were fully-jabbed as her father’s a retired dentist and believes all the mumbo-jumbo.

Gregoryno6
3 years ago

Our PM, aka Scotty From Upf**king, claims that 40,000 lives were saved as a result of measures taken by governments across Lockdownunder. No number given for the lives lost as a result of the measures taken etc etc.
Not to mention collateral damage in destruction of business large and small.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

https://metatron.substack.com/p/covid-requiem-aeternam
The Vaccine HypothesisThe vaccine is claimed to be substantially effective in reducing COVID mortality (by the policy-makers but not the vaccine manufacturers) and also to be safe. If these claims are true, we should expect even fewer deaths than expected above due to significantly lower COVID deaths and insignificant vaccine deaths, i.e. lower all-cause excess mortality over all.
To be certain, we should also expect to see a negative correlation between the vaccination rate and the COVID death rate, i.e. the more a country is vaccinated, the greater the decrease in COVID death rate should be observed.
Empirical ResultsThe COVID death rate is higher after mass vaccinations.
There is a discernible reduction in the rate of COVID deaths in just 38 out of the 202 countries studied (19%). Therefore, in the vast majority of countries, both the rate and the number of COVID deaths after vaccination programs is higher than before.

A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago

I know this comment is going to be unpopular but putting the made up covid virus and test to one side, I think the archaic practices in the NHS supposedly full of experts, is the real problem. As far as the vaccine is concerned, treat it with the disdain it deserves.

Dodgy Geezer
Dodgy Geezer
3 years ago

Anecdotal Info. I have had no Covid vaccinations. My wife has had the initial jab, and two boosters. The first two injections caused her no distress, but the third one left he feeling exhausted and under the weather for a couple of weeks, and she decided to have no more. A couple of months ago I caught a flu-like illness after I had been to a party, which my wife also picked up (probably from me). The symptoms came on rapidly – flu-like light fever and a chesty cough which disappeared in a day. I felt very exhausted, and retired to bed for a day. Thereafter I felt as if I had a minor winter cold for about a week. My wife exhibited almost exactly the same symptoms as me – about 1 day later. She tested herself and obtained a positive Covid reading (probably Omicron, at that time). She seemed to be a bit more exhausted than I was, and spent two or three days in bed. If vaccination made such a difference in condition, we would have to argue that my wife would have been hospitalised if she hadn’t had the vaccine, while I shrugged it off with… Read more »

Just Passing Through
3 years ago

The jab doesn’t stop people getting the virus, it doesn’t stop people spreading the virus and its overall effectiveness in protecting people from death is practically zero.

So can it still be described as a vaccine then?

I mean what exactly is this potion supposed to actually do thats of any benefit to anyone that is willing to take the chance and have it done?

Incredible.

Dodgy Geezer
Dodgy Geezer
3 years ago

…what exactly is this potion supposed to actually do thats of any benefit to anyone…

Pfizer made a net profit of nearly $22bn last year, up from $9.1bn in 2020. It has certainly benefitted them. And many entrepreneurs have made personal fortunes…

John001
John001
3 years ago
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer

Johnson & Johnson’s 2021 turnover was not that far below that of Cargill, which typifies ‘US Big Food’ …

https://www.jnj.com/johnson-johnson-reports-q4-and-full-year-2021-results

J&J = the largest of their pharma cos., I think.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

“The jab doesn’t stop people getting the virus, “

FAUCI LIED?!?

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/yes-the-vaccines-were-supposed-to

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Bonce
Bonce
3 years ago

93% of the UK population over the age of 12 had at least one stabbing. So how do you prove effectiveness, you nearly removed the control group.This of course is exactly what they wanted to do.Is there any work going into the 7% of purebloods like me that are somehow still alive despite not being stabbed?

BeBopRockSteady
3 years ago
Reply to  Bonce

93%?

John001
John001
3 years ago

I read it’s 91-92% in my age range (60-70). So I’m one of the 8-9%.

But it’s lower for younger age groups. The way it was rolled out, they had months longer to wake up before they were invited to a vac. centre.

Join http://www.vaxcontrolgroup.com, that helps the cause.

I’ve seen consistently lower estimates for the USA and Switzerland … as little as 65% for the Swiss. That’s despite the US attempts at coercion which were disgusting.

In short, populations of many millions or tens of millions in a few countries will retain proof of harm, even if other countries almost lose their control group.

In the USA, Orthodox Jews and the Amish probably aren’t accepting needles any time soon either.

artfelix
3 years ago

There seems to be a – perhaps understandable at this point of the vaccine debate Overton Window – a reluctance above the line to draw the obvious conclusion. It seems, on the face of it, almost certain that the vaccinated are dying in far higher numbers than the unvaccinated.

At some point the discussion will need to move away from the vaccine being ineffective and towards it being dangerous.

Dodgy Geezer
Dodgy Geezer
3 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

Not if the powers that be can keep the Overton Window firmly closed….

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer

Lockdown the Overton window…

A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago

The more I think about it the more I’m beginning to realise that without the vaccine and test the position we are now in wouldn’t exist. Not particularly helpful!

Carrie White
Carrie White
3 years ago

….you would expect the unvaccinated to die at over eight times the rate that the unvaccinated die…. I think the second unvaxxed here should be vaxxed.

Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Carrie White

Yes

Star
3 years ago

Those aged 50+:

25+ wks after dose 2: vaccine effectiveness 48%

2-4 wks after dose 3: vaccine effectiveness 94%

5-9 wks: 89%

10+ wks: 88%

Comments:

  1. From a Big Pharma point of view, those figures look like Payday.
  2. “50+” is a f***ing ridiculous group to cite such statistics for. If anyone reading this doesn’t realise why, and then they think about it and they do realise, they’ll have learnt an important lessons about statistics.
A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

If like me you never believed in the virus or the test, then all statistics are academic.

Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago

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RW
RW
3 years ago

Over 50 year olds is so obviously an inappropriately broad group, that the complete publication can immediately be discarded as yet more Sars-CoV2 ‘vaccine’ marketing. When doing a histogram analysis of the deaths from the week 13 surveillance report, the outcome is

  • total deaths 3944
  • 50 – 59: 155 (3.9%)
  • 60 – 69: 350 (8.8%)
  • 70 – 79: 825 (20.9%)
  • 80+: 2164 (66.2%)

Which means more than half of the deaths occured in the 80+ group and 87.1% in the 70+ group. When going from 50 – 59 to 60 – 69, the death rate grows by 2.26. For the next transition, it’s 2.38. And then, growth jumps to 3.17.

Somehow, I have to keep repeating myself: When trying to observe a phenomenon conjectured to exist, eg, vaccine protection against hospitalisation/ death/ income tax/ flatulence/ WTF, and the relative frequency of the underlying base event keeps changing wildly, chances are that the phenomenon doesn’t exist and that the observed fluctuations are random or have some trivial other explanation. Eg, waning vaccine protection against infection or the rather more mundane given enough time, more and more people get infected?

TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
3 years ago

Monkeypox is ramping up, apparently it’s in Spain now. Daily Mail is loving it, probably got a contract extension from billy boy.

Nymeria
3 years ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

Damn, and I’m only just done with my teenage acne.

BeBopRockSteady
3 years ago

As much as I am suffering from data fatigue on cases and death counts, this is an excellent analysis. It takes their lies at face value and show how the logical conclusions are simply insane.

I did this back in September when Northern Ireland had seen its second deadliest month of the pandemic. If the vaccines were 95% effective as the rona cult were claiming, without a vax it would have been death levels way beyond total monthly deaths for all causes. Ridiculous stuff.

Their response? Exactly, thank God for the vaccines.

It’s a cult.

SweetBabyCheeses
3 years ago

Pre jabs the average covid fatality was the same age as UK life expectancy…so what does “death protection” even mean?! Clearly people aren’t being given immortality shots.