U.K. Covid Inquiry Proposes to Examine Vaccine Deaths

The Chair of the U.K. independent public Covid inquiry, Baroness Heather Hallett, has told the Prime Minister she wants her inquiry to cover vaccine side-effects and fatalities. The Mail has the story.

Very rare yet serious side-effects from the Covid vaccine could be explored in the forthcoming public inquiry into the pandemic.

It may also look into the struggle which affected families have faced in getting compensation.

Probe chairwoman Baroness Heather Hallett wrote to the Prime Minister last Thursday outlining the key areas under scrutiny – including pandemic preparedness, lockdowns, testing, PPE and care homes – which he will have to sign off before the inquiry can begin.

The Mail on Sunday has learned that she also asked if her inquiry can cover deaths and life-changing side-effects from the jabs.

While multiple studies have shown Covid vaccines to be safe – with more than 53 million Britons having had at least one dose and nearly 40 million receiving three – a small minority of people suffered serious health problems including blood clots and inflammation in the heart.

In the U.K., medical regulators have reported 438 blood clot cases and 79 deaths linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine. 

More than 900 applications have now been filed for compensation over death or injury due to vaccines, with the total claims reaching £110 million. However, not a single payment has been made.

The inquiry seems unlikely to explore this issue properly if only because the data collected and published on it to date are so limited and poor. But it is reassuring at least that the head of the inquiry wants to cover it, and presumably the Prime Minister will not refuse permission. Good also to see pandemic preparedness in there – it will be interesting to see what the inquiry makes of the Government’s performance when assessed against its own plans.

Worth reading in full.

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MikeHaseler
3 years ago

The costs always outweighed the benefit, whether that the lockup, the masks or the jab.

What is missing is a simple cost benefit approach … after all this time they are only ever looking at one side of the equation, and to have to ask permission to look at one small aspect on the other side, just shows how one-sided and useless this “inquiry” will be. Despite everything being the wrong thing to do, they will find “government acted appropriately” … because they won’t look at the damage done by government’s actions.

Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeHaseler

I suppose I should look into the life of Baroness Hallett, but from her/his/their/its photo I think I know what I am going to find. Is it wrong of me to think that? Can anyone give me a hint of evidence she is anything more than a functionary?

MikeHaseler
3 years ago

I followed the career of one of the climategate chairs who gave the UEA such an easy ride and “forgot” to look at anything important. He went on to a series of well paid jobs as “thanks”.

watersider
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeHaseler

Mike. Have a look at the career success of the guy who said ‘children won’t know what snow is’ to paraphrase.
Same with every global warming crook who are never caught.

D J
D J
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeHaseler

From the 1980s we have had a tool to analyse this. QALYs, quality adjusted life years. It was ignored.

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeHaseler

To make a statement, you must have done some calculations on data.

Where are they?

Annie
3 years ago

Little Fon
Got on
Our nerves.
Concrete garden
No kind of pardon
Deserves.

Now a pseudo-sceptic
Is driving us dyspeptic.
There’ll soon be a worse ‘un.
They’re all the same person,
Or if not,
The same bot.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

There was rational, leek and good old tree,
So many names, but none authentic,
And here’s one more, whom you must agree,
Is neither genuine nor actually sceptic.

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

We can’t help if you don’t want to learn.

actually sceptic
3 years ago

Why 19 little down-thumbs, for simply asking for the justification?

actually sceptic
3 years ago

Calculations not required when you just believe.

“Scepticism” must be a religion

JXB
JXB
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeHaseler

The USA FDA has a statistical life value of $7.9 million, or £6.45.

So far there have been 2 000+ recorded – young healthy, lives – confirmed as CoVid vaccine deaths, that is over £12.9 billion.

As adverse reactions for any drug are reckoned to be under reported by a factor of ten, the actual life cost is likely to be much higher.

And this was done to ‘protect’ people over the age of 80, with serious underlying medical conditions, with life expectancy of 12 months or less.

Add on the Human cost of bereaved families and also cost of non-fatal vaccine injury and we have a very big number. And that is before we factor in the cost of lockdown.

And the meter is still running because the on-cost of vaccines and lockdown has some distance to travel.

But what are burning priorities? Net Zero, internet censorship and Ukraine.

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  JXB

All this is a quite vague and unjustified attempt at one side of the equation. But at least you have tried. Now what about the other side of the equation?

What you need to do is calculate a sum as follows:

(cost for benefits) – (cost of implementation of vaccination) – (cost of downsides)

If this is greater than zero, then vaccines were positive.

RedhotScot
3 years ago

Kindly quantify the benefits of vaccinations, being that they do not stop either contraction nor transmission of covid.

Would your cost of implementation include the unused Nightingale hospitals, the cost of unsuitable PPE or the cost of the vaccine now left on the shelves because fewer people are taking them?

How can one quantify the “downsides” when they are completely unknown as no long term studies were undertaken to demonstrate the risks they represented to people even just a few years on from taking them?

I might also point to the decline in children’s education, the loss to the economy of lockdowns, the loss of jobs etc.

Mike Oxlong
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

There was a good piece on either The Expose or Children’s Health Defence that for every life saved by the fake vaccine there were 5 that died from it. Not even next to useless.

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Oxlong

Very unlikely to be true. Can you reference the ” good piece”?

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Vaccinations vastly reduce the proportion of infected from becoming seriously ill or dying. The evidence for this is very very clear.

Nightingale hospitals are not related, but were stupid.
PPE not related.

My point in answering the original sweeping statement, is that if you have nothing to back it up, then the writer’s opinion is just that and should not be taken seriously, until some real background work has been done.

The fact that hoards of “sceptics” quickly support such worthless opinions tells me that they don’t begin to understand how to approach these questions.

It will be a complex task to understand the benefits/costs of all the various aspects of the pandemic response and even then impossible to estimate the impact had nothing been done.

vivaldi
vivaldi
3 years ago

You of the sweeping statement..see above…this site is “full of anti vaxxers”…..you are a dolt, we all recognise that.

optocarol
optocarol
3 years ago

Please “hordes” not “hoards”.

SAGE LIARS
3 years ago

‘ Vaccinations/snake oils vastly reduce the proportion from becoming seriously ill or dying. The evidence is very clear’……..There is NO evidence at all for any of the jabs. Find me a study on any jab with a control group included. In Michael Alderton’s 1981 book on International mortality he shows many examples of mortality over the years and when snake oils were introduced. For example UK mortality for measles was 1,250 per 100,000 in 1900. By the time the jab was introduced in the early 1960s it was below 5 and still decreasing. What happened between 1900 and 1960 to reduce measles mortality by over 95%?? I suggest simple things like cleaner water, sanitation, better living conditions and electricity. He also has similar finding for TB, Diphtheria, Polio (man made ‘virus’) and Influenza. The jabs have taken all the credit for falling rates when they contributed sfa (apart from lining the pockets of Big Pharma and their Rockafella trained germ theory, blinkered GPs/Health professionals). As Professor Edward H Kass, the much respected physician , and infectious disease researcher, warned in the 80s ‘beware of worshipping at the wrong altar’ . What’s your next line of expertise?? The bullshit PCR tests,… Read more »

JohnMcCarthy
JohnMcCarthy
3 years ago
JeremyP99
3 years ago

If you survived them, sure. And the image is five months out of date…

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JeremyP99
3 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

Or of you were unlucky, but lived, you might have got one of these horrible life changing conditions

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JeremyP99
3 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

The there’s always this. Yes, they have a shot for Anaphulaxis.

But not bee stings as such…

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JeremyP99
3 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

Not to mention that the vaccines don’t work. They may lessen the symptoms of some, but they neither prevent the recipient from getting the disease they were “vaccinated” against (Moob Boy Gates has it at the moment), or passing it on, which leads to this simple and correct flow chart.

Of course, vaccine passports were always utterly discriminatory. Deliberately.

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JeremyP99
3 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

Indeed, worse than useless….

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JeremyP99
3 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

At least the Irish authorities made no bones about the dangers of the clot shots. I know no-one who was warned about more than a very few side effects.

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JeremyP99
3 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

And ALL this for a disease that actually killed less than 10k people. About 30 under the age of fifty.

Maybe half the number the jabs killed?

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/covid19deathsandautopsiesfeb2020todec2021

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actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

Utterly nonsensical to say they don’t work.

Keep spouting drivel on this site and guarantee no-one will ever take any notice.

TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
3 years ago

And what evidence are you relying on to say the jabs work? The UKHSA data is highly questionable due to reasons including the size of the unvaccinated population not being clearly known; the confounding correlation between individual health and choice to take the shots; and unexplained high death rates of unvaccinated subjects following the shots, suggesting data issues.

Note the conspicuous absence of quality cohort studies on vaccine effectiveness, measurement of outcomes using more meaningful and bias-free indicators such as all-cause mortality, or any attempt to quantify how the vaccine has led to increased spread of the virus (as can be seen in comparison to more lowly vaccinated countries).

SAGE LIARS
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenGoblin

He hasn’t any evidence. In any case, if there was ANY evidence he wouldn’t have time to find it as he spend his day playing with himself when corrupts twats like Hilary Jones, Whitty, Gates or Vallence appear on TV

JeremyP99
3 years ago

See above.

MikeAustin
3 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

These are the latest European figures. I update them weekly here.

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crisisgarden
3 years ago

Did they make you have it at the troll academy? If so you must be a little worried; Maybe that’s why your comments are so bitchy and lame.

actually sceptic
3 years ago

18/18 can’t answer, but just believe…..

Annie
3 years ago

No inquiry into the persecution of the unvaccinated, naturally.

MikeHaseler
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

British “inquires” are undertaken with the intention of hiding the truth.You could write the report conclusion before they start, and the whole “inquiry” is an attempt to find “evidence” to justify their already decided conclusion.

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeHaseler

Exactly! Who any longer trusts the British State, now under the Johnson Regime more brazen in its contempt for both its own people and the truth than ever before?

eastender53
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeHaseler

As with ‘Policy driven Science”. Make the facts fit the conclusion.

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Midazolam deaths anyone? Injecting children? Face mask compliance nonsense, man-made origin of virus?

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

What persecution?

RedhotScot
3 years ago

Clearly you are

  1. Jabbed.
  2. Have been living under a rock.

Remind us all how many unjabbed care workers were sacked.

Remind us also, of how many articles in the MSM were calling for us to be prosecuted/sacked/denied healthcare/banned from flights (which we were) etc.

PaulMac66
PaulMac66
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

*tumbleweed

crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  PaulMac66

Maybe that should be his next screen name?

crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

yep, you won’t get an answer from tree splinter actually sceptic.

dante
3 years ago

Investigate, but not compensate…

Backlash
Backlash
3 years ago
Reply to  dante

rightly so, the idiots knew the risks and signed the disclaimer

Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

It’s akin to Prosecuting Counsel writing to Fred West and asking him what areas did he want covered

Jabberoid666
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Indeed Cecil… and it’s worth returning to Mr. Bordie’s article back in April.

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/my-eight-simple-questions-for-the-covid-inquiry/
This being the key para:

  1. Why has our sovereign country become so subservient to the bidding of the unelected, unaccountable, obviously untrustworthy WHO given that it is headed by a compromised Marxist placeman (Tedros) and is overwhelmingly controlled by totalitarian dictatorship China and Microsoft multi-billionaire cum vaccine fanatic Bill Gates? 

Dial in this looming WHO mandate being voted for next week or so…. this has to be negated if we are to avoid future crushing of our citizen rights and freedoms.

Neil’s thankfully on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gafV6YhhnAQ

Will the MSM pick this up?

No, of course not… this draconian technofacist reset rolls on.

8bit
8bit
3 years ago

From the crow’s nest of RMS Pandemic: “Whitewash right ahead!”

MikeAustin
3 years ago

Yellow Card Reports on 13th May show deaths are up 36 over 2 weeks to a total of 2,132. Adverse reactions up to 1,490,271.

Here are a few points to note:
This is the highest weekly death count since 3rd March.
An average 1 death in 27,113 jabs over three periods is the highest death rate so far.
Based on this 2 week period alone, it is 1 death in 15,527 jabs.
This week, MHRA removed 113 adverse reactions from previous weeks. Apart from one anomaly in June 2021, it is the highest level of MHRA ‘tinkering’ so far: 10x the average.

More details on Telegram at https://t.me/mikes_stuff

jingleballix
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

Good work……

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

Not good work a 5 year old can see past this.

actually sceptic
3 years ago

But not “sceptics” though!

SAGE LIARS
3 years ago

a 5 year old can see through this……….are you using your present mental age as the main parameter for that statement?

another armstrong
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

Just posted something similar… Well done!

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

And so it will steadily continue.

As with Covid, Do we start saying death “with the vaccine or from the “vaccine”?

Yellow Cared estimated by the authorities themselves as representing just around 10% of the actual number of side-effects or fatalities.

Why is this never mentioned I wonder?

D J
D J
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

There is a double standard in the ONS/MHRA reports. When vaccine linked deaths are discussed the repeated caveat us that this is an overestimate as many would have died by chance shortly after vaccination. This point is never made for Covid infection listed deaths. With/of again, and the believers will continue to believe.

acle
acle
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

Add to that all the reactions not attributed to the vaccine. In the past three weeks I have heard of:
1 person in their mid 70s who in the past year has developed epilepsy
1 person in their mid 70s who in the past year has developed a nasty autoimmune disease causing rashes and sores all over their body
1 person in their mid 30s who in the past six months has developed Guillain Barre syndrome and is now learning to walk again.

Anybody think of anything out of the ordinary that has happened in the past year? Anyone? Nope that’s right nothing 👀

Add to that an article in the DT this week discussing animosity between dog walkers and farmers. The stress one dog walker experienced was so great that in May 2021 it ‘caused her to have a stroke’.

So just an FYI everyone, stress is causing strokes now.

Backlash
Backlash
3 years ago
Reply to  acle

a stroke of the dog?

crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  acle

In our circle, we’re approaching 100% of vaccine recipients that we know developing known and in some cases very serious adverse reactions. We’ve seen it all, strokes, heart attacks, sudden unexpected deaths, DVTs, other clotting issues. It’s stunning.

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

Meaningless numbers, unless you compare against natural rates.

Bear in mind that >1% of the population dies each year. or 1 in 5000 each week.

Virefirer
Virefirer
3 years ago

As usual, “Lessons will be learned…”

jingleballix
3 years ago

> Are lockdowns effective at stopping viral spread?……..’No’

> Are face-masks effective outside a clinical setting?…….’No’

> Did the jabs work as claimed?…….’No’

> Should we do any of this ever again?……..’No’

There, the basis of the enquiry is complete.

jingleballix
3 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

As for the rest, she might ask: > Why did the government break all of its conventions and the spirit of common law to seize power illicitly, award itself unlimited spending powwrs and rule by decree for 18 months? > Why did it abandon its long-held plan that advocated a much more liberal and far, far cheaper way of achieving the objective? > Why were the MSM been given so much money and told what to publish? > Why did the government actively manipulate and massage death statistics? > Why were PCR-tests used to manipulate powers under the Public Health Act 1984 and lock everyone up? > Why were two high level PHE staff members of the group that authored the Corman-Drosten Paper that endorsed PCR-tests? > Why have children and young people been actively targeted for control measures? > Why were jabs consider essential for everyone when only a very small section of society was at risk? > Why did the government break the law and mandate jabs for care home workers – why did they try to do the same for NHS staff? > Why have jabs not been stopped when it is clear that they are doing… Read more »

A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

I would like to see the evidence that a small section of society benefitted from gene therapy drugs.

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

You won’t because there was no gene therapy.

eastender53
3 years ago

It has been acknowledged by several members of the Pharmaceutical Industry that the jabs are a form of Gene therapy. What there are not is a vaccine. (Until they changed the long standing definition). Whatever your Masters tell you this forum contains a large number of highly qualified, intelligent contributors who do their research. Your sniping is doomed to fail.

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  eastender53

No this forum contains a bunch of anti-vaxxers, who read and repeat stuff that suits their politics.

Now the fact that you can find some weird folks to say gene therapy, does not make it true.

jrobs
jrobs
3 years ago
jrobs
jrobs
3 years ago
Reply to  eastender53

Gene ‘therapy’ is misleading as there is no ‘therapy’ in the toxic jabs. Gene modification might be a better term.

Designed to Cross the Blood-Brain Barrier: Pharma and the FDA Knew Lipid Nanoparticles Go Everywhere (rumble.com)

A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago

No gene therapy, No vaccine, No spike proteins, No need to worry. Do you seriously believe that will stand up in court?

SAGE LIARS
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

actually sceptic is a great believer in the scientific method known as COINCIDENCE

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

She will be told not to ask any of these questions.

We must remember that only one Senior Retired Supreme Court Judge. Lord Sumption, challenged the legality of Johnson’s Emergency Power and the measures that followed on.

He was ‘cancelled’ by the Deep State of course.

misslawbore
misslawbore
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

It’ll be years before we even get to see the results a la Sue Gray

MikeHaseler
3 years ago
Reply to  misslawbore

Inquiries are a way to stop the police investigations until it is too late to prosecute.

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeHaseler

These days the Police are just told to say: “Nothing to see here , move on, you are causing an obstruction and will be arrested!”

D J
D J
3 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

Why were vaccines initially given to ALL people with NO contraindications?
No other medication in the British National Formulary is treated like that.
That is faith healing not medicine.

Woodburner
Woodburner
3 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

For sheer mastery in how to face enquiry, look to the obnoxious Fauci. No amount of public humiliation and opprobium will suffice when it comes to politicians and civil servants, but there’s no harm in laying it on good and thick.

Backlash
Backlash
3 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

> Should we compensate the people whose income was destroyed with a tax raid on those who supported the measures…….’Yes’

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

Especially when the money went into the pockets of Government Toadies as part of Johnsons’ “levelling up/down scheme” ( Filthy Rich levelled up and the Middle Class levelled down of course!)

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

Have you fallen into a inverter?

SAGE LIARS
3 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

Report done, now we can move onto prosecuting the corrupt, evil, or completely incapable cretins like Whitty, Vallence, Handjob, Javid, everyone on SAGE, Ferguson (Imbecile College London), June Raine MHRA etc who are behind this crime against humanity charade!!

A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago

Go on, have another inquiry! I’ve heard enough from politicians in the last two years to know that they are all inveterate liars, this will be yet another whitewash paid for yours truly.

Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

Lady Hallett sat as Coroner for the 7/7 bombings inquest

On 6 May 2011, the Coroner, Lady Justice Hallett, issued a report under Rule 43 of the Coroner’s Rules 1984. She concluded that “the evidence I have heard does not justify the conclusion that any failings on the part of any organisation or individual caused or contributed to any of the deaths”.  

Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

This despite the fact that it was never explained why the Security Service surveillance teams watching these suspects were withdrawn weeks before they blew themselves up

ImpObs
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

off the top of my head recalling “Terror on the Tube: Behind the Veil of 7/7, an InvestigationBook by Nicholas Kollerstrom”

Why the train they “arrived” on didn’t exist, it had been cancelled.
or why all the CCTV images from the station were provably photoshopped
or how an explosive device placed on the floor can blow the floor upwards (clearly the explosions came from beneath the floor)
or how the “suicide bombers” managed to get shot in canary warf after the explosions (radio news reports)
or how Peter Powers was running a “table top” exercise at the time, exactly the same as the events occurred (as he said on BBC News)
or the truth about Jean Charles da Silva e de Menezes (likely witness to the teams planting the devices the night before)
or the reasons the bus route changed
or the evidence of liniar shaped charges on the bus roof (still visible on the famous picture – anong with a parked vehicle for an explosive demo company)
etc. etc.

ImpObs
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs
ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

Not forgetting the movie signage on the side of bus they detonated which had the words “OUTRIGHT TERROR…BOLD AND BRILLIANT” written on it. Just a coincedence of course, like the fact that an Israeli company was managing the CCTV critical infrastructure which failed in key areas and we had all kinds of related malfunctions and as mentioned a whole series of unexplained anomolies which just got swept under the carpet. Then the West End ran a production for months called Outright terror – bold and brilliant”. Its all good though, they were only trying to keep us safe so it cant happen again. Thats why we pay the government all this money and give them all this power, to keep everyone safe. Thats what goverrnment is for. 911 and 77 clearly came from the same place. Another interesting line of enquiry is the mystery Jaguar car which was at the dry run 9 days earlier and 77. See article for all links: Remember The 7/7 London Bombings? Remember The Jaguar? https://wideshut.co.uk/remember-the-77-london-bombings-remember-the-jaguar/ On the morning of the attacks, when CCTV captured alleged bomber Germaine Lindsay in the car park at Luton station we also see a mysterious Jaguar parked next to… Read more »

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Great! She can just do a ‘cut and paste’ job then?

A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago

Regardless of all the statistics, the fact staring everyone in the face is that we are now in a worse position, by every metric, than we would have been had we done nothing in 2019.

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

But do remember that everything claimed by the Johnson Government and the sold-out MSM, on any subject, is the opposite of ‘the truth’ and you can’t go far wrong!

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

How do you know what would have happened had we done nothing?

actually sceptic
3 years ago

15/16 disapprove of questions.

I thought sceptics asked questions.

crisisgarden
3 years ago

not fatuous straw man questions.

A Y M
3 years ago

While multiple studies have shown Covid vaccines to be safe “
Really? Which ones? The MHRA have not followed up on more than a tiny fraction of cases. Total Bull.

Why not start with sportsmen dropping like flies?

Predictable white wash on its way.

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

No serious studies whatever have shown the ‘vaccines’ to be safe – they start as they ,mean to go -with a lie.

The report is discredited before it is even written!

What kind of “State ” do we now live in ?

paul smith
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

…a State of Disrepair?

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Apart from all the serious studies, that is.

and real-life data.

They are safe, accept it and get over it.

A Y M
3 years ago

Please do reference these.
And what, pray tell, are you “actually” “sceptic”al about?

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

Many things.

But being sceptical means looking properly at evidence. It doesn’t mean choosing a side, then selecting stuff to back it up.

zners
zners
3 years ago

Did you use the same evidence to come to the conclusion that they were also effective?

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  zners

Well you can read the clinical trial reports. If you find something wrong, you could write about it.

Funny that nobody has done such a thing on this site.

Then you can look at real-life data on efficacy. You can do this for multiple vaccines in multiple countries.

If you find dodgy data, please write about it.

I have done these things and it is very clear that they are effective.

TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
3 years ago

The clinical trials for the mRNA vaccines show they lead to increased death per a recent study in the Lancet.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4072489

godders
3 years ago

Yet you still haven’t produced a shred of evidence to support your assertion that the frankenjabs have saved any lives, while plenty of posters have produce data, graphs and charts showing their lethality. Put up, please, or shut up.

Catee
3 years ago

Very rare yet serious side-effects from the Covid vaccine could be explored in the forthcoming public inquiry into the pandemic.

Surely if this is investigated the least she will expect is a full analysis of the yellow card data which the HMRA has to date failed to produce. Hopefully they’ll also discover the ‘not so rare’ side effects too.

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

How can Heather Hallett know the side effects are “very rare” if she has not yet held the enquiry – calling them ‘very rare’ has dismissed them already ,so expect the following in final report:

“There were serious side-effects, but they were very rare” ( So that’s OK then!)

Looks like they have written the ‘conclusions’ already – to save her the time!

They really do think the people are congenitally stupid – looking at he last two years, perhaps they are right

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Well everyone of you that has trawled the yellow card data, thinking you have proven something has actually shown they are very rare.

Do you disagree with yourselves?

eastender53
3 years ago

Did you hear the one about the vaccine that was stopped because of 50 deaths? Probably not part of your briefing package.

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  eastender53

Which vaccine was that? which country/countires?

John
3 years ago

Interferon as a cancer treatment was stopped when four people were admitted with myocardial infarction in Paris.

DS99
3 years ago

It’s the swine flu one, in the 1970s I think. Here is part of the documentary about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bOHYZhL0WQ

When you see some of the vaccine damage, just consider that these are actual people. We’re not just talking about yellow cards and data.

godders
3 years ago

Do the research yourself, for once.

actually sceptic
3 years ago

23/23 do disagree with themselves, it would seem.

crisisgarden
3 years ago

I’ve got some advice for you. Your trolling is currently attracting no responses (other than downticks) because it’s very weak and contains none of your own opinions, which makes it very easy to identify you as a troll. It might be a better strategy to at least pose as an actual human, you know, have some opinions, say some things, relay some information about you and your background/qualifications etc. That way you could possibly lure people in. As it stands, it looks like a very tawdry attempt to disrupt the conversation. Just saying.

godders
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

That’s the Mail talking, not Heather Hallet. Heaven only knows why we’re being told the article in this comic masquerading as a newspaper is “worth reading in full”.

Free Lemming
3 years ago

Very rare yet serious side-effects…” Let’s get a numeric definition of ‘very rare’ and a medical definition of ‘serious side-effect’, then also apply those definitions to other vaccines. How does the Covid ‘vaccine’ then compare using those same definitions? i.e. how safe is this new tech when measured against traditional vaccines? I think we all know the answer.

John
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Very rare is defined in the BNF as being less than 1 in 10000. Thus in the U.K. this would equate to a maximum of 6800 serious adverse events. What constitutes a serious event is not so well defined.

See https://bnf.nice.org.uk/guidance/adverse-reactions-to-drugs.html
This is a list of side effects to the MMR vaccine, frequency unknown:
Angioedemaarthritisataxiacoughdizzinessencephalopathyeye inflammationirritabilitymeningitis asepticnerve deafnessnerve disordersoculomotor nerve paralysisoedemapanniculitispapillitisparaesthesiaregional lymphadenopathyrespiratory disordersseizuresStevens-Johnson syndromesubacute sclerosing panencephalitissyncopethroat painthrombocytopeniavasculitis”
and for hepatitis B
”Angioedemaapnoeaarthritisencephalitisencephalopathyhypotensionmeningitismultiple sclerosismuscle weaknessnerve disordersparalysisseizurethrombocytopeniavasculitis”

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  John

Yes, the he lies have started even before the inquiry has begun!

John
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

What lies?

John
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

These have been the definitions used in the BNF for the 15 years I worked in healthcare and I imagine for several years prior.

ImpObs
3 years ago

Baroness Heather Hallett, of 7/7 inquest fame?

Don’t waste my time.

Woodburner
Woodburner
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

It has been public knowledge for months that Lady Hallett is to chair this Inquiry, yet only now are there references to some perceived lack of competence to do so. Not on!

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Woodburner

She a member of the Establishment ( now usually called the Deep State) that gave us the Covid fear/panic campaign, the mass injections of an untried Gene Therapy product and the Lockdown crisis – it is not so much competence at stake, as membership of the very Elite whose behaviour and motives she is supposed to be judging!

It used to be called “conflict of interest.” and I smell ‘safe pair of hands’!

You don’y seriously believe that the Johnson Government will allow any serious criticisms of individuals and policies, or startling revelations to be made, which would threaten political careers do you?

In the best tradition of Waterloo as usual , it will simply be be “close ranks and form a square”

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

Not to worry – the conclusions have already been written!

A Y M
3 years ago

Epoch news covered the airline staff suffering injuries from this poison and they are becoming more vocal.

The suppression of peoples injury stories as well as those who are injured but deluded into thinking it wasn’t the jab is quite something.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/exclusive-pilots-injured-by-covid-vaccines-speak-out-i-will-probably-never-fly-again_4452922.html?utm_source=ai&utm_medium=search&slsuccess=1

TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
3 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

Pilots have to have frequent medicals, including an ECG. The required frequency increases with age, so there should be a useful history of ECG records, 6 monthly in the older groups. An analysis of these would show onset of cardiac issues and if these were consequential to the gene therapy injections.

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

The we must assume that the analysis will not take place.

mwhite
3 years ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

It’s called gene transfer technology

yohodi
yohodi
3 years ago

Inquiry?..Criminal investigations, followed by criminal trials…(yeah, I know..)

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  yohodi

The very title shows their bad faith intentions.

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

What is heat smell already? Oh yes fresh Whitewash!

The increasingly powerful Deep Sate will protect itself from the unvarnished truth.

Look out for “Lessons to be Learned” and ‘no one to blame’. Howevevr with ‘bargain basement paints’ the stains always show through and many coats will be required!

RW
RW
3 years ago

With some luck, I will be able to meet my parents again this year for the first time since 2019. How about covering that? Families torn apart as health & safety measure, implemented by people who either don’t have living relatives anymore or who had a long holiday in their family home. Brought to you by the conservative and unionist party on behalf of the CCP whose superior wisdom is till being trumpeted by the WHO, despite the Chinese open air experiment went decidedly pear-shaped meanwhile.

DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

The conclusion should be that The original plan would have worked without even a tweak, the meddling and peddling caused the problems

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

They will be getting desperate to quietly ditch the Yellow Card stats.

Perhaps Dorries will have the answer, buried deep in her On-Iine Harms Bill?

After all the stats ‘harm ‘ the Government .

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

What is that smell already? Oh yes fresh Whitewash!
The increasingly powerful Deep State will protect itself from the unvarnished truth. 
Look out for “Lessons to be Learned” and ‘no one to blame’. However with ‘bargain basement paints’ the stains always show through and many coats will be required!

Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

If this was a real inquiry the Dame may want to ask why during the period of mass detentions a GCHQ unit was moved into Downing Street

The unit was to report directly to the dictator

Why?

I suspect the units role was to spy on lockdown dissidents and the political opponents and allies of the dictator

They got rid of Cummings et al by creating the false ‘chatty rat’ story and making them surrender their phones

How did they know where to look?

Just saying

John001
John001
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

You should be an investigative journalist.

Oh dear I forgot … we don’t have them now.

Still UK Column might be interested in that snpippet. They have a chap there who’s an ex- spook.

Backlash
Backlash
3 years ago

Absolutely no way any families should receive a penny in compensation. The idiots all signed the waiver and took the jab, these are the consequences

Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

What about those for whom it was get the jab or lose your job?

Backlash
Backlash
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

The real crime there is the politicians that made that policy, they should be hanged. I have sympathy for those who lost their jobs, I lost my income and was given zero aid too….but they still signed the disclaimer and took the jab.

Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Let them sue their employers. Why should I pay?

A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

They all signed waivers, bloody hell, I didn’t realise that. No wonder many aren’t complaining.

A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

So the pharmaceutical firms are protected due to the ‘non vaccine’ gene therapy drugs being experimental, the government are protected by requiring recipients signing a waiver. The recipients, tricked by the gene therapy drug being called a vaccine are not protected at all, I don’t think so. I would say 53,000,000 people here were misled into believing it was a vaccine. Someone should be sued.

vivaldi
vivaldi
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

Fraudulent Misrepresentation from the outset. People are familiar with the word ‘vaccine’ and how it is part of childhood and for travelling to certain countries, but, they weren’t familiar with ‘gene therapies’ and their possible long term effects, let alone the short term, almost immediate negative outcomes.

eastender53
3 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

I don’t believe there was a ‘signed waiver’. Plus lies were told so it was all conducted under false pretenses. Other pressures were also applied.

A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  eastender53

The next question then is, was there a requirement to sign a waiver or not? If there was a waiver, did it include the words ‘Vaccine’ and in what context? this is not a vaccine? If there was no waiver, what exactly were recepients told. Are you suggesting the vaccinators made up their own narrative?

Dr G
Dr G
3 years ago

While multiple studies have shown Covid vaccines to be safe – with more than 53 million Britons having had at least one dose and nearly 40 million receiving three – a small minority of people suffered serious health problems including blood clots and inflammation in the heart.

Any honest frontline doctor may care to disagree.
I have seen scores of adverse effects, some severe, with anecdotal evidence of quite a few suspicious deaths shortly after vaccination.
Steve Kirsch suggests no more than 1 in 41 adverse drug effects are reported to VAERS in the USA.

D J
D J
3 years ago
Reply to  Dr G

I have seen many as well, and reported them via Yellow Cards. Bell’s Palsy, Central Retinal Vein Occlusions, CVA’s.
I have also noticed the numbers declining sharply as vaccination uptake has fallen.
At work I am treated as an extremist to be humoured.
I have kept the letter threatening me with the sack for refusing the booster.

Dr.Gwouldbeproud
Dr.Gwouldbeproud
3 years ago

“Very rare…..” Sure. I know many people who have suffered serious side effects but not one who has died from the virus.

emel
emel
3 years ago

I still don’t know anyone who has had the coof. I really must get out more.

For a fist full of roubles

The outcome seems to have been already decided. When you start of from the position that side effects are very rare before you look, it doesn’t promise to be unbiassed.

actually sceptic
3 years ago

Any idea of how many people die per week as a baseline?

Of course you don’t.

Well it is about 1 in 5000, each week.

Now compare your above post with this and watch your logic vanish in front of your eyes.

eastender53
3 years ago

Do you get paid double time on a Sunday?

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  eastender53

I try to teach you, as a public survice.

So why don’t you look into my 1 in 5000 figure and tell me if this is likely to be true.

If you can find an error, then you have a case.

crisisgarden
3 years ago

🫡 Reporting for survice SIR!

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Well done for spotting the typo.
Have a go at the factual element now.

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  eastender53

I offer this education for free.

crisisgarden
3 years ago

Ha ha! I like that you’ve got a sense of humour!

For a fist full of roubles

Of course we all do. Whatever has all cause death rate got to do with it. It would be more useful if you could quote the average weekly deaths from vaccine side effects by vaccine type, and the deaths from ill-advised medical interventions.

TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
3 years ago

Try comparing to reported side-effects from any other “vaccine” and there’s obviously a huge problem.

rtaylor
3 years ago

Joel Smalley laid out this morning out how the highest reporting countries in Europes have under-reported, at a minimum, by a factor of 7.2x.

I wonder if the life insurance companies in The City of London will help the “enquiry” in some way? Plenty of evidence outside the sovereign state too.

actually sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  rtaylor

The fact that he quoted a minimum factor to an accuracy of 2 significant figures, means you can reject the work.

For a fist full of roubles

You will have to educate us all about how you came to that conclusion.