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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

Good morning, Russian agents, 77th brigade and genuine users. Fantasies welcome!

The “green” revolution going well I see…

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

A great start Hugh.

Good morning and welcome.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Good morning and congratulations – your record of 22 upticks against 22 downticks for one post the other week is the most I can recall – and would have come out as a big fat 0 under the old system! A whole new world has been revealed…

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Blimey. What was that all about? It’s not like me to be controversial 😀

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

One of these morning posts attracted a huge number of ticks for some reason. I don’t know how many were being ironic…

Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

At time of writing you are in the negative figures HP 6+ 9-

Must be the peeps who don’t like people exchanging cheery greetings – the way normal people do.

Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Afternoon Hugh – you don’t mean a New World Order or anything like that??

I know we are accelerating towards it but I didn’t think it was this close!

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Good morning, Hugh and hp.

You’re very chirpy considering the hour, Hugh – ready for battle!

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Yes, I had a good ding dong on the other topic btl! Apparently hydroponic farming and rock dust are nuts. Oh well, I suppose he may be right…

RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Take your distorted reproduction of events and blow them out your fat ass.

I didn’t say hydroponic farming was nuts. I said that for this country it consumed energy needlessly, and nutrients had to be found from somewhere.

I have no idea what you’re talking about rock dust.

It’s evidently what’s rolling around in your thick head.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Good morning to you too!

It was about that farm at Traloch near Pitlochry that I posted about recently. Clearly you didn’t take much notice of the link. The idea was to grind balsitic rock from an extinct volcano into soil to mineralise it as an alternative to other fertilisers (potash and the like), which I thought sounded sensible enough, but obviously you’re free to disagree.

Sorry if I misquoted you, but that’s how I remembered it, and seems close enough to your view. As John Le Mesurier once said, it’s not holy writ.

RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

You come up with so many barmy ideas you don’t think through that one probably got lost amongst them all. I don’t recall seeing or commenting on it.

and seems close enough to your view.

What view? I have many views.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Not a problem. Think nothing of it!

Loads and loads of barmy ideas. But hey, that’s how free speech and science work. Plenty of barmy ideas, but every so often, one of them is of use to someone…

This originally started over pesticides and my view that people should have a choice about what chemicals are going into their bodies from their food (even if it does only make 5 minutes of difference to how long they live), so I suppose I mean your view (or views) relating to that.

I don’t necessarily intend my barmy ideas as ideas which I want to be implemented immediately, but more as illustrations of what could be done, to illustrate a wider point. But I absolutely do believe that, so far as practicably possible, people should have a choice about what chemicals they consume, and certainly when there is any doubt about them – though obviously not if it means that poor people are going to starve.

For a fist full of roubles
Reply to  Hugh

Human waste is the solution – suitably sanitised – as it is a rich source of a wide range of nutrients and fibre. Ditto for all other animals as has been proved down the ages. Mix it with pulverised rocks if you like and in the right proportions you end up with good soil.
Could use it to cover unproductive land (Westminster would be my choice)..
Is that barmy enough for you?

RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I suppose throwing enough mud at a wall will eventually get some to stick, but persistently proposing barmy ideas without thinking them through is pointless and makes you look silly. But it’s a free world.

Why would a barmy idea ever be implemented?

Growing food on an industrial scale requires artificial pesticides and fertilizers. Fortunately you do have a choice, grow your own.

There is little to no evidence these products harm anyone other than when handling it on a consistent basis. A greenkeeper brought a successful case that he contracted cancer from glyphosate, but he was exposed to the stuff and was handling it on a daily basis.

This ridiculous case has been weaponised by the anti chemical nutters, yet life expectancy over the lifetime of chemical agricultural products has consistently increased as more people have greater access to fresh fruit and vegetables.

Even your 5 minute contention is complete tosh. The whole thing is green propaganda that you have swallowed hook, line and sinker. Just like most people fell for the ‘vaccine’ and climate change scams, also propaganda.

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

What is ‘balsitic rock’ ? Perhaps you meant ‘basaltic’ ?

Idris
Idris
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

I thought that was a vinegar😃

ImpObs
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The rockdust thing isn’t as barmy as some would imagine, but it comes with caveats, you also need the full soil food web of microbiology in the soil to ‘mine’ the minerals and make them avilable in a form plants can use (e.g. nitrites to nitrates). With Regenerative Agriculture Potash can usually be the first input to drop once the microbiology is added back, assuming a holistic approach with cover crops is adopted. There’s no ‘one size fits all’ solution tho, each farm situation is different.

But (there’s always a but) most soils, even poor soils, have enough minerals to sustain plants, if the microbiology is present.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Good morning AE.👍

J4mes
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Hugh, just a heads-up – I’ve accidentally flagged your comment due to this website running shockingly bad on my mobile phone. Happens all the time and I bet the moderators think I’m easily upset by harmless comments 😂

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
  • Cabinet Office was warned parties were breaking law” – Sue Gray’s report into lockdown-breaking parties will expose emails revealing widespread “premeditation” by civil servants and Downing Street staff who knew they were breaking the law, reports the Times.

I wonder if Times muppets are aware that there are genuine objections to “vaccine” mandates, Pfizer and the rest which their reporter Oliver Wright could do a good story on if they let him?

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I suspect Red is on the pop.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Jolly good fun though…

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Class.

Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

So, warned, and still went ahead then.

Says it all really. If you can’t see it now when will you ever see it, people of the UK?

Mark
3 years ago

Ms. Rayner is not the target of outrageous misogyny that she had us believe

Gosh, how unusual.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Mr. Rayner? What’s they done now?

Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Just the kind of evil false accusation that has always been absolutely routine in identity politics, from Tawana Brawley to Jussie Smollett.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Now, now Mark. Not if you identify as being Permanently Offended.

Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Offence was the wheel on which our society, culture and history was broken, in the c20th.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10774185/Blackface-Morris-dancers-defy-critics-entertain-crowd-wearing-controversial-make-up.html

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

That and a particular type of symbolism.

You might enjoy an Australian play, Life after George (by Hannie Rayson). It moved an Australian audience to tears in the year 2000, with its depiction of a civilisation lost and the new ways to succeed.

Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

I didn’t know that was a thing – I could be tempted….

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

You need natural aptitude – otherwise known as a very thin skin and a very high opinion of oneself.

Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Ahhh – that rules me out then. Shame AE, I’ll have to identify as something else and have to spend time and energy deciding what that should be.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

I identify as human (though there are moments). Saves hassle; couldn’t be more inclusive; and gives me excellent excuses when I’m feeling tired or pissed off.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

So was she flashing her gash at Bozo or not?

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

It’s enough to put anyone off their porridge.

Mark
3 years ago

#Putin’s latest failure:
Western media’s de-nazification of #Ukraine much faster and more thorough than #Russia’s”

A useful (non-exhaustive) collection of references for Ukrainian extreme nationalism/nazism, from Moon of Alabama:

Media Are Now Whitewashing Nazis They Had Previously Condemned

And a pointed mention of the gross hypocrisy and corruption of US politics in this regard:

The cover-up in Ukraine is getting worse | Redacted with Clayton Morris

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

That is a point which needs to be stressed.

It’s not a case of calling your teacher a Nazi because she said you should do your homework. It’s not bossiness; and it’s not bog-standard aggressive authoritarianism.

We’re talking about people who wanted Nazi Germany to win the war. Many of them believe that it could have done so if only they’d killed more of their selected hate groups, which included Jews and Russians – both designated as inferior beings, fit only for death or slavery.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

And one might remember that the Odessa massacres against Jews which got Zionism going in earnest in the early 20th century (1905?) were in what is (for now) the Ukraine.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Film buffs (of the more earnest variety) will remember Odessa for Eisenstein’s masterpiece Battleship Potemkin (1925) and its Odessa steps sequence – depicting the uprising of 1905 and support for the mutineers of the “Potemkin”.

Historians of the more earnest variety remember it for the atrocities committed against the city’s Jewish population (about a third of the total population by 1900). There were repeated pogroms, including one in 1905.

Under Nazi occupation in WW2, there was a terrible massacre: around 30,000 Jews shot or burnt to death in a couple of days.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

One of the starkest warnings from history in my 1906 encyclopaedia is the article on “Jassy” in Romania, whose population was in 1899 over 50% Jewish (39,440 Jews). Today, there are only a few hundred Jews – and I know this to be true because I worked with someone who used to live there and didn’t know any Jews. During the second world war, the Jews in Romania and Bulgaria were rounded up and put in a concentration camp in the region of… Odessa!. There was bound to be trouble after such large scale atrocities. Trouble that continues to this day. Imagine if the majority population in, say, London, was reduced to a few thousand. These events must have been horrendously traumatic for those affected.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Odessa was of course then part of the Soviet Union.

In January 1942, after the Russians had re-taken some of their occupied territory, they issued a diplomatic note:

http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/policy/1942/1942-01-06b.html

Towards the end, a declaration is made:

The Soviet people will never forget the brutalities, violence, devastation and humiliation which the bestial bands of the German invaders inflicted and continue to inflict on the peaceful population of our country. They will not forget and pardon.

When Russians talk about “de-Nazification”, they mean it.

kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Thanks for this link, AE, very moving.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

You can still feel the rage – and the anguish. It was raw then.

kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

My parents lived through the war and I grew up on their memories. I can identify with this emotion.

The woke nonsense only “works” because history can be distorted for those who have no historical or cultural memory. The want to engender an ahistorical culture.
I do not think this is possible, the USSR tried it, but Russia has now returned to its cultural traditions.

MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

I think most people over about 65 had or have parents who lived through the war – mine did. And even the current young can identify with the rage and grief associated with the holocaust. They may be less aware of the pogroms in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s which took place in the Western parts of the Czarist empire of the time – now Ukraine and Poland – but many people are aware – Hadley Freeman’s autobiography is very good on the subject.

But it is a big jump from this to modern Ukraine where 30% of the population voted for an explicitly Jewish president in the first round, and 70% in the second round, while the right wing Svoboda party got 1.6%.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

That’s an important point. The Nazi sympathisers had very little traction at the ballot box. Their power and influence came from other sources.

MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

And without the popular vote they are never going to be a significant force – something that the Ukrainian people are quite capable of handing without being invaded.

Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

Russia’s cultural traditions of totalitarianism

Monro
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

What they mean is de-Europeanisation.

‘…the denazification of Ukraine is also its inevitable de-Europeanization.’

RIA Novosti 04 Apr 22

Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was the equal evil of the National Socialist Workers Party of Germany.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

“Irreplaceable relics connected with Leo Tolstoi’s life and creative work-manuscripts, books, pictures-were either stolen by the German soldiery or thrown out and destroyed. In reply to a request by the museum staff to discontinue using personal furniture and books of the great writer as fuel for heating the house and to use for this purpose available firewood, a German officer named Schwartz said: “We don’t need firewood. We will burn everything connected with the name of your Tolstoi.”

No wonder there is anger in Russia. And now some idiots apparently want to stop playing Tschaikovsky, as if he has anything to do with the current situation.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

“Cossacks”.

Aren’t they the ones who were massacred for having a bit of land and a cow?

The Marseillaise also played in that film. Madness that Russia has been forced into alliance with China (who were their enemies at the time of the film – or at least enemies of the “reds”)when we have so much more in common with them.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I think they were called Kulaks.

Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Speaking of Odessa:

Russians With Attitude
@RWApodcast
8 years ago, on May 2nd 2014, Ukrainian radicals murdered at least 42 people in Odessa for the crime of being Russian. They burned them alive. They had tacit approval from the government; no one was punished. From that day on, it was clear that war had become inevitable.

Russians With Attitude
@RWApodcast
·
2h
Replying to 
@RWApodcast
The War in Donbass had barely started; after May 2nd, 1000s of volunteers from Odessa & Russia joined the Militias. Ukrainian social networks were full of “funny” videos of people jumping to their deaths to escape the fire. Restaurants added “Vatnik shashlik” to their menus.
Russians With Attitude
@RWApodcast
·
2h
Young girls poured the Molotov cocktails that lit the Trade Union House on fire; Ukrainian politicians joked about “the traditional May BBQ” for years; people who were involved in the massacre are now popular bloggers, pundits, advisors, military leaders.

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1521046161460797440

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

8 years ago, on May 2nd 2014, Ukrainian radicals murdered at least 42 people in Odessa for the crime of being Russian. They burned them alive. They had tacit approval from the government; no one was punished. From that day on, it was clear that war had become inevitable.

I believe that is so. It’s why I also believe that Odessa will no longer be part of whatever is left of Ukraine.

Monro
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Rumbled: ‘In 2012, the Russian government began paying people, many in their 20s, to post pro-Kremlin tweets as part of their normal Twitter use. In 2013, a man with close ties to Putin (Yevgeny Prigozhin) bankrolled the founding of the Internet Research Agency in Saint Petersburg.’ ‘The IRA began hiring Russian citizens to post pro-Kremlin messages. The operation ramped up during the Russian invasion of Crimea, in neighbouring Ukraine, in 2014. By the next year, the IRA had roughly 1,000 employees.’ One former employee of the IRA described the feeling of working there as though ‘you were in some kind of factory that turned lying, telling untruths, into an industrial assembly line,’ ‘In 2014, when Russia annexed Crimea, it rolled out a calculated operation designed to confuse Russians and Ukrainians alike about whether Russia was even behind the invasion and, simultaneously, why the invasion was justified. Russian Twitter trolls and Kremlin-funded news outlets such as RT spread the fiction that Ukrainian leaders were uniformly fascist.’ ‘“The aim is to confuse rather than convince,” Soviet-born journalist Peter Pomerantsev, author of a 2014 account of Russia under Putin titled Nothing Is True and Everything Is Possible, has written, “to trash the information… Read more »

Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Monro

LOL! Is this “projection”?

MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

It was an awful event and the police are culpable for not trying to take control but there is no evidence that they were deliberately burned to death. It was the culmination of a day of deadly rioting between two extremist groups. The blaze began when a wooden barricade in the foyer caught fire while both sides lobbed Molotov cocktails. The Russian government, predictably, quickly took advantage of the propaganda value.

pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

The thing about neo-Nazis is that like neo-communists, they seem to believe the only thing wrong with their politics is that they weren’t implemented properly and that if they were given the chance they would succeed… mostly by killing more people.

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I wonder how many of these Ukrainian ‘nazis’ have ordered an ‘EMP Shield’ from the Strange Sounds net site in case Putin attacks with one of those.
Strange Sounds does not tell you the price (I guess that will pop up when you start the purchase) but informs that there is $50 off so it must be a bargain!

It’s probably a foil blanket.

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kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

EF, stop derailing conversations which provide useful and informative content.

77th alert.

Searching for ‘organic content’ posted by genuine users coherent with the lines they want to push, and then working to amplify these messages, in order that such views are distorted is the norm.’

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

It would appear that anyone Kate doesn’t agree with automatically gets labelled as ’77th’.

Just what is ‘organic content’?

kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

I remember when you first turned up on this website, you were trying to incite people here to commit criminal offences and handing out addresses and e-mails of MPs etc from your safe hideaway in “Finland”
What a joke you are.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

I’d like to thank you Kate, for your provision of precisely that: “useful and informative content”.

You do that both in the expression of your own thoughts – always considered and measured – and in the links you provide.

kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Thanks, very kind of you.

Monro
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

Rumbled.

‘One former employee of the IRA (Internet Research Agency) described the feeling of working there as though ‘you were in some kind of factory that turned lying, telling untruths, into an industrial assembly line,’

‘In 2014, when Russia annexed Crimea, it rolled out a calculated operation designed to confuse Russians and Ukrainians alike about whether Russia was even behind the invasion and, simultaneously, why the invasion was justified. Russian Twitter trolls and Kremlin-funded news outlets such as RT spread the fiction that Ukrainian leaders were uniformly fascist.’

Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

And more inconvenient truths that the current US sphere regimes would prefer were shoved into the memory hole:

So if Russian President Vladimir Putin thought that Ukraine had a Nazi problem, maybe it was because he was reading the western media for the last 8 years, because the western media has been saying that Ukraine has a serious and growing Nazi problem. And so you have the Pentagon trying to depict the Russians as being irrational, as being dishonest, trying to deny them their justification for acting in Ukraine, when in reality there is a serious Nazi problem, and if John Kirby is lying about that, you have to ask yourself what else he’s lying about.”

Russian Ops in Ukraine Update: Pentagon Sends Old Vehicles & Ukraine’s True Colors Begin to Show

RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Nazi’s, useful to the left when they need them.

Who’da thunk?

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Have a look at the targets of the Einsatzgruppen. Countless people of the Left (or those perceived to be of the Left) lost their lives to the Nazis. That is not a myth – and there is ample documentation. The Nazis were proud of it: they boasted of how many they had killed.

Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

The National Socialist Workers Party of Germany are the left.

Monro
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Rumbled.

‘In 2014, when Russia annexed Crimea, it rolled out a calculated operation designed to confuse Russians and Ukrainians alike about whether Russia was even behind the invasion and, simultaneously, why the invasion was justified. Russian Twitter trolls and Kremlin-funded news outlets such as RT spread the fiction that Ukrainian leaders were uniformly fascist.’

‘“The aim is to confuse rather than convince,” Soviet-born journalist Peter Pomerantsev, author of a 2014 account of Russia under Putin titled Nothing Is True and Everything Is Possible, has written, “to trash the information space so the audience gives up looking for any truth amid the chaos.”

huxleypiggles
3 years ago

“Oprah says she will continue to wear a mask inside planes”

TFFT. Hopefully the plastic she inhales will infect her lungs, as studies confirm, and lead to terminal disease.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Not very nice… Mind you, masking’s not very nice – a filthy habit, terrible for the environment, psychologically damaging, causes more disease and death than it solves, and faintly ridiculous (I still laugh at them when I can be bothered) – so possibly fair.

Btw do you still have to wear them on most airlines or is it more or less over?

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Hugh, I am past caring about being offensive. We are facing the fight of our lives. If millionaire Next Tuesday’s like Oprah want to carry on promoting this horror show that’s up to them but it means I retain the right to call them out.

She is a firkin oxygen thief.

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

“We are facing the fight of our lives.”

You live in Saddleworth, don’t have to wear a face mask, and don’t have to take any of the Covid vaccines, go to gigs and drink beer.
Doesn’t sound like much of a fight to me.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Whereas you are in a mud-filled trench, in desperate need of more ammo for your RK62, as those pesky Russians advance on mass towards you.

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

I thought the Russians were the good guys???!!!

Do make your minds up!

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

When did I say they weren’t? You’ve resorted to using the strawman approach now have you?

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

EF is very brave and is looking forward to receiving his call up papers from the Finnish government. He’s going to be a hero.

Gregoryno6
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

‘terrible for the environment’
Dead masks are the must have accessory for every footpath in my neighbourhood.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

I dread to think how many masks I would find if I went on a litter pick…

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I strongly suspect that, despite the bravado paraded, that no posters on this site have actually openly laughed at strangers wearing face masks, for fear of getting thumped.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

It’s case of do unto others what you would have them do unto you.

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Hey I’m still doing my pointing and “Oh my god!” routine. Even when my daughter’s by me and saying on the approach to the muppet “Don’t point mammy, it’s embarrassing!”. I feel it my duty as a level-headed, sane citizen to point out people’s nuttiness. They need to be reminded that they’re abnormal.

Admittedly it’s a real rarity around here. I saw 2 on King’s Day. One at least wore an orange mask, in-keeping with the theme, so he got a bonus point for a sense of humour but I still ‘Oh my godded’ him. I think certainly huge events like this are a good indication that where you are living almost everybody has gone back to normal, but I think there’ll always be the odd one or two who are intimidated by fresh air and if they’re that paranoid should really just stay in the house forever more. They shouldn’t be venturing out and offending people with their stupidity otherwise they deserve all the ridicule or funny looks they get.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Can I ask, EF, what it is that you do to fight the good fight? I’m not being facetious, I’m genuinely interested.

Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

9 hours have elapsed HH and still no reply.

EF must be terribly busy doing whatever it is that EF does but doesn’t want to tell you about.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

How little you know of psychology…

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Doesn’t she have a private jet? What sort of self-respecting billionairess is she?

sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

She does. I’m sure of it. Sounds like she is becoming a reclusive, paranoid billionaire too.

Another example of too much money sending you mad,

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Good point!

Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

But perhaps there are other people on the private jet – like the stewards who serve her her food and champagne (I’m assuming that is what one drinks on a private jet) and the pilot and co pilot etc.

You wouldn’t seriously be expecting Oprah to breathe in the same air as those common or garden people, air that could have germs in it???

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

There’s the rub: the minions.

And we all know that masks don’t work unless everybody wears them, except if you’re at a party of some sort. But perhaps Oprah wears one to demonstrate that she’s a woman of the people.

Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Surely she only uses a private jet, so she won’t have to wear a mask?

olympian
olympian
3 years ago

Poor Oprah.

Apropos to nothing;
Did anyone perchance save a copy of the Daegle 2025 population projections?
I’m curious what the projection was for Russia. The other BRICS countries too.
Can anyone help ?

Good morning to you all

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  olympian

The UK figure was 25 million.

vivaldi
vivaldi
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

…..not 15 million?

olympian
olympian
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Thanks for that.
It only refers to the five eyes countries, France and Germany.
I’ll investigate further tomorrow.
Goodnight sceptics

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  olympian

I remember this story from a while back. Assuming it isn’t an error, what might be behind it?

Ceriain
3 years ago
Reply to  olympian

Here you go, olympian; this may be what you are looking for.

https://archive.ph/nAHJK

Russia 141,830,780, down from 142,260,000

UK on page 2: Forecast – 22,570,600, down from 63,740,000

This archive shows their forecast as of 2015, (I think).

Hope this helps.

PS. I don’t think Deagel.com publish this forecast any more, so this archive of the summary page might be about it; unless any of the chaps here know differently.

oblong
3 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Wow. Great reading thank you

sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  oblong

The notes underneath in pink are interesting.

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Girls like pink.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Trans prefer emerald, so you’re in there Mr/Mrs/Ms Fox.

kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  olympian

I was curious about this too. Russia considers itself to be underpopulated. Interesting to see the Deagel forecast is gentle on the Russians.

kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

I came across Deagel in about 2010. At that time the means to produce the predicted reduction in population were difficult to comprehend. Economic collapse and emigration could not achieve the huge reduction in the UK.

Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

I think we might have an idea now what might achieve it Kate

Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

But brutal on the UK

J4mes
3 years ago

Northern Ireland faces loss of one million sheep and cattle to meet climate targets

As with almost every radical policy introduced over the last two and half years, I don’t recall the public voter having been consulted about this.

This, obviously being a great reset Agenda 21-30 strategy to remove meat from our plates while killing off rural livelihood, has no mandate – they have given themselves this power.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

I think they gave up bothering about what people in Northern Ireland thought about things when the Stormont parliament was suspended. They have also forced an extreme social policy on Northern Ireland for which there was no demand there.

J4mes
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Absolutely. But what will happen in Northern Ireland will eventually happen in England and the rest of the UK too.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Hopefully there are still plenty of weapons hidden away in Ireland.

Never again should a population be prevented from the right to bear arms.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

A country that still has some principles. Telling that the woke mob want to destroy them, and never mind about democracy.

Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Or willingly surrender them in the name of safety.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Like any other tool, it is the misuse of them, rather than the tool itself that is a problem. And safetyism that is the real virus…

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Correct.

RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Its a Guardian report. Calm down.

Nor are the Irish dim enough to ruin their principle industry. It’s all theatre.

Oirish farmers be like – “oyl cut down all me sheep an’ cattle in 2049 then – see if oi don’t”.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

A Guardian report? Groan…

J4mes
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

I guess you didn’t witness the fields of burning cattle last time the government (courtesy of Prof Pantsdown) scammed the country into believing there was a killer virus/disease ‘ripping’ through the country.

Calm down.

Are you this patronising in person?

Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

How dare they!
Do elites grow woolly coats that can be sheared and made into lovely yarn and warm blankets? Do elites give milk from which to craft delicate cheeses? Do elites have tender loins and tasty shoulders to render comforting stews? Do elites lend themselves to pastoral verse and painting? Thought not! Talk about useless eaters! Who are they to cull our flocks and herds?

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Susan

(That reminds me, there’s a fine line twixt stew and soup. And – the pastoral symphony – one of life’s great pleasures – along with Lancashire hotpot which (I think) also contains lamb!).

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Lancashire Hotpot is traditionally made with lamb. Correct.

Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

It was passed by the NI Assembly.

If you could see what passes for intellect in NI Assembly members you would understand why they passed the Climate Act and decided for themselves to totally decimate one of the most important industries in NI – all on the say so of who? The PM? The BBC climate change panickers?

RedhotScot
3 years ago

I have said persistently that the Sue Gray report would be the acid test for Boris, not the MET’s feeble attempts at pandering to politicians.

Things are about to get interesting.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
  • The U.K. Covid Response: A Stool with Three Legs” – Carl Heneghan and Tom Jefferson write for the Brownstone Institute that they discovered U.K. public health bodies had 14 different ways of attributing the role of SARS-CoV-2 to a death.

Yes. I think “stool” is the right word…

I seem to remember a report that some Muslims who died and were buried before they could be examined (they have to be buried within 24 hours according to their beliefs) were getting counted as “covid” deaths just in case, hence the “filthy Muslims in Oldham” myth (perhaps HP knows more about that one?).

Ceriain
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I seem to remember a report that some Muslims who died and were buried before they could be examined (they have to be buried within 24 hours according to their beliefs) were getting counted as “covid” deaths just in case, hence the “filthy Muslims in Oldham” myth (perhaps HP knows more about that one?).

Hi Hugh, I remember this story, too. (I think!)

I’m happy to be corrected, as I could be wrong, but I’m sure I read that the families were told their loved one’s body would only be released to them to be buried, as you said, (within 24 hours according to their beliefs) IF they agreed to allow Covid to be put as cause of death.

Gets the numbers up, you know.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Weren’t doctors being payed extra for “covid” deaths then as well? A bit like the police’s crimes solved scam…

Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

If that is true, and at this stage in the proceedings I would put NOTHING past any of them, then that is the most disgusting of frauds.

To effectively blackmail a deceased’s family into colluding with the fraud so that they could have their loved one’s body released to them for burial in accordance with their religious beliefs. A new low indeed.

Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The UK Covid Respone: A Stool.” Title could have stopped there.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Susan

No stool…

Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago

Message to Oprah: a mask is precautionary against Covid in the same way painting your bum sky blue is a precaution against Polar Bears running through the Nevada desert.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago

Blue? On a black arse? Debatable.

Especially one that big.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago

Harkle and Markle get dumped.

That’s a firkin pfizzer.

RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Ooops.

There goes the income.

RedhotScot
3 years ago

Keir Starmer was told on Sunday to provide evidence to back up his claims over Beergate as he insists he did not break Covid rules when he was caught on camera swigging beer with colleagues last year,

Usual congenitally thick left wing politicians.

Starmer could have wriggled out this with considerable political points by simply saying “I’m sorry, but Boris’ lockdown rules were so confusing we didn’t realise we breached them”

Instead, like most politicians he thought it a better strategy to just lie.

What a Bozo. Dim as Diane.

Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Why is it Beergate? Why not Currygate? More racism.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Oh yes, they allegedly ordered a curry as well. At least there was no chocolate.

Maybe “beergate” is against “gammons” (if that counts as racism).

RedhotScot
3 years ago

though Boris reassured the Government they were just praising the nation’s health service.

I seriously hope that’s a joke.

If not, it’s Boris’ ‘Let’s Go Brandon’ moment.

🤣

RedhotScot
3 years ago

“Nicola Sturgeon’s nanny-state ban on cheap alcohol has cost Scots £270m, made booze firms richer and had little effect on problem drinking, says think tank”

No shit Sherlock!

Like this wasn’t anticipated by anyone……..

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

The first fish? Not even the stupidest thing she’s done either.

I bet it made booze firms richer just around Carlisle…

RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Cutting school doors in half was about as stupid as one can get, but she can do better.

myrtle
myrtle
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I heard that she was called Seaweed at school because not even the tide would take her out.

RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Broken link.

The easy way is just to double click the address in your browser, then copy and past it.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

Let’s go Brandon!

“The rolling lockdowns, isolation, social distancing, masks, coerced medical procedures, hospitals denying life-saving emotional support from the families of ICU patients, the extreme control of the minutiae of people’s lives, down to the direction in which they walked in grocery stores or how they breathed, closed international borders, all of these unprecedented experimental measures aggravated the global health crisis. They paradoxically weakened people’s immunity and overall mental and physical health. They were implemented without due process when better disease models were available.”

And I think the people behind these crimes might also do well to consider the case of the Indian man who survived for years on uncooked road kill – and the outbreak of hepatitis among children. The importance of natural immunity and good mental health…

“There was a dramatic influence in childhood and adolescent suicide”.

Perhaps after all you are right about some of these vermin, HP…

huxleypiggles
3 years ago

“Boris Johnson’s claim that a lack of knowledge about the asymptomatic transmission of Covid-19 put care homes at risk has been further undermined after it emerged he openly discussed the potential scale of symptom-free transmission.”

Either more lies from the genocidal maniac or he is beyond stupid. Actually I’ll opt for both.

What a disgrace to humanity.

And the planet.

myrtle
myrtle
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Could this be another psy-op? They’re just keeping the asymptomatic narrative alive in readiness for the next clamp down on our civil liberties

vivaldi
vivaldi
3 years ago
Reply to  myrtle

‘Asymptomatic transmission’ is going to form a big part of the Hallet Inquiry because it is key to locking the country up time and time again for any other ‘virus’ or ‘variant’. It allows the cabal in govt to justify that “everyone is at risk”, as Gove claimed back in Mar h 2020. Likely the BIT will not let ‘asymptomatic transmission’ die the death.!

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

Ah yes, the one that sponsors Starbucks.

Can women still call 999 if “transgender women” (i.e. men) are in their lavs?

ellie-em
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

“Can women still call 999 if “transgender women” (i.e. men) are in their lavs?”

Good point. I suspect the ladies will probably be told to stop harassing the men in the ladies, for fear of causing offence…

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  ellie-em

A very good question and a very good response.

If “transgender women” were to complain about women who asked them to leave a female-only lavatory, it would only demonstrate that they don’t understand much about being a woman.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Dear me, the “living as a woman (whatever that means) to ‘transition’ ” standards really must be slipping…

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  ellie-em

It’s when you wander into the unmarked lav ( because they took the male/female signs off the doors in my local art gallery ) and see a ‘woman’ standing at the urinals having a slash. You just can’t unsee stuff like that. Mixed toilets are also very common here in the Netherlands unfortunately. Men pretending to be women do not belong in the female toilets. If they are that touchy about it just use the disabled loos. They’ve always been unisex.

TheBluePill
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Next time I need to call the 999 when a group of men are kicking the shit out of another man in my back garden (and they fail to even bother to attend or follow up in any way at all – genuinely), I’ll try reporting that the victim is being attacked for using a ladies toilet. They’ll probably deploy the chopper and armed response.

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

More to the point, what have flipping mermaids got to do with transgenderism? Is it because they lack genitalia? I’m waiting for the new range of trans Barbie/Kens to hit the shops before Xmas. You know it’s inevitable right?

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

The whitewashing of history continues apace, and a snip at a mere £33,500. Coming soon – the removal of green men. (Isn’t Stroud supposed to be the Islington of Gloucestershire or something? They also have a vegan football club as I recall).

I seem to remember there was a pub in Scotland (The Black Bitch?) that had to be renamed…

Maybe they can find excuses remove wooden churches and stone circles too. Good bye history! Ruddy neo-ikonoclasts…

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Where is the evidence of someone who was indeed traumatised?

But evidence doesn’t matter anymore, does it?

Susan
3 years ago

Meagain Markle named her failed Netfix series Pearl? Isn’t your typical pearl white? Therefore, is this not proof Ms. Markle is a racist?!

Gregoryno6
3 years ago

Clearly, all electric buses must be triple vaccinated ASAP.

Gregoryno6
3 years ago

This is funnier than hell. ‘Mate’ was hardly used at all in some places I worked. The preferred form of address was ‘khante’.
Your spelling may vary…
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/dominic-perrottet-ministers-unhappy-with-new-pc-office-advice/news-story/926835959ecc81d3e1ab61a86e6fce8c

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

(Anything is funnier than hell according to a fire and brimstone sermon I heard once).

What on Earth is becoming of Australia? Well, g’day, mate…

Gregoryno6
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh
Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

G2 did refer to “some places”. In my workplaces any version of “khante” would have started a war.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Sorry, that should have been G6!

Gregoryno6
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

‘S okay, you-know-what.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

Not in my workplaces – “mate” used by men and by women, to men and to women.

It’s quicker than remembering someone’s name; and can be made to sound threatening, as well as pleasant.

Gregoryno6
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

I spent the better part of my working life so far in ‘blue-collar’ situations – a bit of mining, manufacturing, warehousing.
There were times when I’d listen to myself dropping swears every second word, and thinking it just sounded stupid. And sometimes I got the sense that the other parties to the conversation would be just as happy to drop the nonstop cussing too.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

Interesting – swearing as ritual?

I’m at my most foul in a car – zero tolerance for annoying drivers (lane-swappers and the like). It’s so routine that it blurts out even when I have passengers. They either look horrified or laugh.

Gregoryno6
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Swearing as ritual is a good way to describe it! Male bonding, perhaps.
I doubt that my coworkers and customers would have flung the bad language about if their families had been present.

RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Have you done any training beyond that to pass your driving test?

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Not sure how to answer that. I didn’t swear during my driving test, of course. Am I missing a cultural nuance here?

Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago

I’m angry that these Commons clowns are the ones who inflicted lockdown on us
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/im-angry-that-these-commons-clowns-are-the-ones-that-inflicted-lockdown-on-us/
Laura Perrins

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

“(it’s always Brady there, trying to keep a lid on the clown behaviour and yes, these courageous few are mostly men)”

Good old Graham Brady (and by the way good old Dr. Helen Westwood from his constituency). And what are the odds of him becoming “Conservative” party leader again? Never mind, he was keeping the flame alive for grammar schools when the “Conservative” front bench he resigned from had other ideas. Maybe there’s hope yet…

Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago

The End of Education
https://vernoncoleman.org/articles/end-education
Dr Vernon Coleman MB ChB DSc

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oblong
3 years ago

I teach maths to engineering students.
It is true that many students can not do simple addition without using a calculator. They have little numeracy.
I try to get them to think for themselves. Encourage them to check their work using other methods. Understand why solutions might be different. Some are willing.

pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  oblong

Most mathematics, at the level that most of us will use it, has practical applications, like the 3,4,5 rule to determine a right angle… if more emphasis was given to this and they were shown the application in ‘real life’, perhaps people might be keener to learn?

PhilButton
PhilButton
3 years ago
Reply to  pjar

As a statistics graduate, and tutor who got a three-time GCSE maths failure a pass after a year concentrating on the basics, I believe theres a huge problem with maths teaching – few teachers understand the subject well enough to be able to explain it to youngsters.
The top students get the best teacher, who probably understands maths, but they would get a good grade anyway…. the weaker ones get a teacher who doesn’t understand it at all, and can’t explain it.

By the way, hasn’t the pandemic shown the importance of numeracy….

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  PhilButton

By the way, hasn’t the pandemic shown the importance of numeracy….

Indeed it has. It’s one of the difficulties with sharing scientific articles: people can’t understand the maths in them.

RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

The left employs propaganda.

There is no point in trying to persuade people with science when you know they don’t understand it.

Figure out your own way of explaining what you mean.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Everyone employs propaganda – of varying degrees of honesty.

When I shared such scientific articles, I assumed people could understand the maths in them. I subsequently realised that they didn’t; and was, as a result, more cautious.

miketa1957
miketa1957
3 years ago

“perhaps because its vulnerable elderly swear by the snake oil of Chinese traditional medicines” …. As compared to the snake oil of the vaccines ?

MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago

‘The Prime Minister had broached the issue of asymptomatic transmission publicly with advisers long before testing rules were introduced, seemingly contradicting his defence, according to the Guardian.’

The asymptomatic claim was a key lie in them being able to sell the imposition of long lockdowns and isolation of the healthy – of course the actual available evidence all showed that asymptmatic transmission did not occur. The Chinese did a massive study in Wuhan where they tracked and traced the living daylights out of millions of citizens and there was no evidence of asymptomatic transmission.

Indeed the next step is to look into the evidence for symptomatic transmission. When we do that we find that such evidence was not only lacking for sars-cov-2 but surprisingly there is a distinct lack of evidence to show transmission of any claimed respiratory virus.

DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

Oprah says she will continue to wear a mask inside planes”  She travels by private plane and has many mansions. They continue to keep up the narrative while having no idea what it actually means

oblong
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Oprah is woke royalty.

Gregoryno6
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Now that the Markles have been bumped out at Netflix, Oprah will be full on with the social distancing too.

MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

With her as the only passenger.

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Precisely. How many square feet of luxury territory does she have at her disposal? She wouldn’t have managed 300+ days in a high rise in Moss Side!

kate
kate
3 years ago

1948, the WHO could accept donations only from member states. In 2005 they changed their policies to also allow for private funding. Today, only 20% of its funding comes from member states, with the other 80% from private sources, including pharmaceutical companies.

Thirteen percent of the WHO’s funding ($300 million annually) comes from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation—a larger contribution than the United State government.

The WHO’s list of donors also includes AstraZeneca, Bayer, Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson, and Merck.

https://twitter.com/akheriaty/status/1519505646349037569?s=20&t=BQfR11M22uuyOnDKGNxtUQ

MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

Nation after nation handing over control to the WHO whenever the WHO claims there is a pandemic, what could possibly go wrong?

RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

Guess why Trump wanted America to leave the WHO.

How people mocked the poor fool………..

Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

And guess why one of President Biden’s first acts when he replaced him in the White House was to re-finance the WHO so that the US could re-join it.

If Trump’s election hadn’t been stolen the world would be a very different place than it is now.

kate
kate
3 years ago

Robin Monotti discusses;

Creating our parallel structure and a BioUrban way of living;
An alternation foundation which will be our future

Removing ourselves from the centralised, top down control systems and becoming autonomous and sovereign within our own new societies

Robin discusses

  • why biourbanism is preferable to Smart Cities;
  • how technocratic power structures have dehumanised relationships between people;
  • the importance of local produce;
  • why parallel societies matter;
  • and returning to traditional tools and utilities.

https://jermwarfare.com/blog/robin-monotti