Norfolk Police Issues List of 37 Genders and Sexual Identities

A guide listing 37 different gender terms and sexual identities has been issued to police officers and staff to help them when dealing with members of the public. MailOnline has more.

Norfolk Constabulary’s document, ‘The + in LGBT’, explains current terminology alongside a picture of a ‘gender bread person’ – a play on gingerbread man.

Critics called it a “complete waste of taxpayers’ money” last night.

The guide, on the force’s internal computer system, was obtained by the Mail on Sunday using a freedom of information request.

Some of the terms relating to sexuality, such as ‘questioning’ or ‘asexual’, are self evident, but others will be new to most, such as gynosexual (someone who is attracted to feminine gender presentation) and grey asexual (a person who “experiences attraction rarely”).

Another lesser-known term is ‘varioriented’, which is described as “when your sexual and romantic orientations do not target the same set of genders”.

Similarly, a range of gender terms is also listed.

It includes words used in everyday language, such as binary, but also less common terms such as ‘neutrois’, which is when someone “identifies as agender, neither male nor female, and/or genderless”, and ‘maverique’, which is used to explain a “non-binary gender that exists outside of the orthodox social bounds of gender”.

Force staff who are confused by any of the definitions are directed to the ‘gender bread person’ diagram, which includes a series of sliding scales that relate to gender identity, sexual orientation, gender expression and biological sex.

Norfolk Police declined to say whether it had produced the guide itself or had obtained it from another organisation.

Worth reading in full.

Can you tell a DEMISEXUAL from a MAVERIQUE?

Pansexual:

Attracted to all genders and/or not concerned about gender when attracted to someone.

Bicurious:

Open to experiment with other genders, but unsure of forming relationship with multiple genders.

Polysexual:

Attracted to many genders.

Androsexual:

Attracted to masculine gender presentation.

Gynosexual:

Attracted to feminine gender presentation.

Demisexual:

Experiencing sexual attraction after forming a strong emotional bond.

Grey Asexual:

Experiencing attraction rarely, on a very low scale.

Heteronormative:

Belief that heterosexuality is the norm and that sex, gender, sexuality and gender roles all align.

Varioriented:

When your sexual and romantic orientations do not target same set of genders.

Erasure:

Ignoring the existence of genders and sexualities in the middle of the spectrum.

Genderfluid:

Having a fluctuating gender identity.

Agender:

Not identifying with any gender.

Bi-gender:

Identifying as two genders, (but not exclusively) male and female.

Polygender:

When you identify with multiple genders at once.

Neutrois:

Identifying as neither male, female nor genderless.

Gender Apathetic:

Not caring about identifying as any gender.

Grey Gender:

Having a weak gender identification of yourself.

Maverique:

Non-binary gender outside of orthodox social bounds of gender.

Stop Press: The College of Policing has ordered police forces in England and Wales to “decolonise” their training materials in order to recruit officers from more diverse backgrounds. The guidance also encourages police forces to become Stonewall Champions. MailOnline has more.

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Annie
3 years ago

Neutrois:

Identifying as neither male, female nor genderless.

What the hell does it identify as, then? A brick?

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I’m offended by your obvious lapidaphobia 🧐

Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Fear of Lapidary? An irrational fear of people who cut and engrave gems?

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

And stones generally.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

I just don’t like midget gems.

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Midgets? What? You monster 👹

iane
iane
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Ha: how many midgets does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
{Two, but they have to be REALLY small to fit.}

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  iane

I’m outraged by your skill with humour 🤠

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  iane

I thought one would have to stand on the head of the other, to reach?

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  Richard Noakes

What happens if the one on the bottom is male and the one standing on his head is female – would that be called sex?

watersider
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Is dwarf throwing still an Olympic sport? and are Russians still banned?

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  watersider

Is that male or female ones?

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

Egad Sir – wow, I have not heard that expression for the better part of some 50 plus years – you must be a Pom!!

Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

It’s a sub class of couldn’tcarelessrois

tom171uk
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Bricks are very sexual. There are so many ways to bond with them.

https://images.app.goo.gl/3Lt4k3XBCaCfhs1q9

watersider
3 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

Are they still used to castrate camels?

Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  watersider

Is Camel a gender?

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

No …just a preference.

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Takes “all sorts”, to make up this world!!

For a fist full of roubles
Reply to  Cecil B

No, a vice president.

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago

Biden would make a great Camel

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

No a 1970s progressive rock band from Guildford.

Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

They’re still going but with only one original member.

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

What the drummer?

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  watersider

What bricks?

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

Especially when thrown!!

RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Presumably, neither male, female nor genderless, ie, that’s supposed to refer to a person who identifies as this, not to a person who identifies as something specific that’s neither male nor female nor genderless. This obviously doesn’t make any sense when assuming that words have defined meanings and are going to be employed to communicate some content. But as this is basically just pick the string of words you presently like best to describe yourself, that’s not a concern.

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

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Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

Me Tarzan – you Jane!!

marebobowl
marebobowl
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

😂😂😂😂😂😂🤡🌍

JeremyP99
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Very special, is how such people see themselves. It is monumentally narcissistic.

MikeHaseler
3 years ago

Another great output from the Chinese funded alphabet studies.

Vaxtastic
3 years ago

Always interesting watching people play with fire 🔥😉

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

Norfolk Police can go **** themselves (If that is still possible in this new world order)

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Given the kaleidoscope of genders, in some cases it would be literally possible.

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Isn’t self-penetration a new “Gender Preference Option?

rockoman
rockoman
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

That must be the origin of the expression:

“He’s full of himself”

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

Wonderful – but how does that go with “She is full of herself”?

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  Richard Noakes

Dildo?

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Have to be a contortionist – from some of the pix I have seen on porn sites, that is entirely possible!!

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

By the sounds of it – YES!!
Better not bend over in front of any of them, you never know what sort of an unintended welcome, you might get!!

Star
3 years ago

That’s a cool diagram. So identity is in your mind, sex is in your genitals, attraction is in your heart, and expression is in your armpits.

CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

Is ‘expression’ a bit like BO?

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Not with underarm on!!

cloud6
3 years ago

What a bloody waste of taxpayers’ money and time. How about doing the jobs you are paid to do Norfolk Constabulary ?

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  cloud6

How about doing the jobs you are paid to do Norfolk Constabulary ?

This is what they are paid to do. When you’ve spent a fortune to buy the key people in government to pursue an agenda to destroy the cultures with the longest traditions of liberty and freedom, you’d be wise to make use of your investment from time to time.

Erosion of basic precepts that hold a society together keep us distracted. Parents now have to monitor their own children so have even less time for the Big Ticket items destroying our society.

Or did you think the police were there to maintain law and order? What an old fashioned idea. One must move with the times, friend 😜

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

The English trend, that is – I don’t live in England any more, not since 1971 (when I was 24) – weird and queer are generally English and American trends now, OK, we have them here, but not so “Obvious”.

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  cloud6

It seems that wasting Taxpayers money to the the point of total financial Collapse is a key Conservative Government policy ( in so far as a ‘Government’ (?) run by the UN the WHO and the WEF is allowed to have a ‘policy’.

No wonder Johnson has looked so care-free since the Ukraine war stared All he has to do is read out his brief.

Digital Financial Reset anyone?

Free Lemming
3 years ago

Scrap the LGBTQYKMCGDI+ and just go with -H. Simple and future proof.

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

We used to call them sexual deviants. The focus then was (correctly) on the limits of government. If you want to deviate within the confines of your own home, and it involves other consenting adults, go ahead.

That worked because it satisfied the deviants and the social conservatives. Everyone walked away with something positive. The kind of reasonable balance characteristic of a civilized society.

But PROMOTION of deviancy is a different matter. The backlash will be epic.

Free Lemming
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Indeed. The leftist opposition to nature isn’t about inclusion, it’s about promotion. A huge and extremely damaging difference.

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Forced endorsement is where it’s at. Indifference is not enough. You must acknowledge homosexuality is normal, for instance.

What fascinates me about all this is the rest of the world has a fundamentally different view. The Chinese view homosexuality as largely a psychosexual disorder, a miswiring in puberty. Other parts of the world take an even bleaker view of course.

The woke seem unaware the west is an outlier just in terms of decency about it all. Even conservatives here can live with it, live and let live etc. But they seem intent on pushing so hard they will lose it all. I see a backlash coming and all we will need to do is think like 90% of the world and it is gone.

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Acknowledging something as normal does not equal promotion. If you called it superior/inferior – now that would be promotion/intolerance. Which coincidentally is what you are doing when calling homosexuals perverts or deviants.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

But it isn’t normal, it’s disordered.

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Disorders are normal, too. They occur normally, as in, nobody artificially has to produce them. And disordered people certainly are not someone to hate or discriminate against… if anything they deserve your empathy.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

normal: conforming to a standard; usual, typical

disordered: in a state of confusion

You need to get a dictionary.

As for hating people who are sexually disordered – I don’t, but I don’t empathise with them either because I don’t share their feelings of abnormal sexual attraction. ‘Empathy’ is just a buzzword for hypocrites like yourself.

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

That’s like saying you don’t empathize with disabled people because you don’t share their abnormal disability. Maybe it is you who should be checking “empathy” in the dictionary.

And if 10% of people have a particular “disorder” or “confusion”, you could even go as far as saying that it is normal, usual, typical. Not that it matters – because what is “normal” is not necessarily positive. For example, world peace is abnormal, but you would not necessarily use this as a reason to argue for war.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Pure sophistry on your part rayc, and you make the assumption that I am not disabled in any way. In fact the idea that you have of yourself, that you are able to understand and share and feelings of someone suffering from something you have never experienced is pretty arrogant.

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

No, I did not make an assumption that you aren’t disabled, why would I have?

The ability to understand someone else’s feelings despite not being that person is not “arrogant” (which seems to be a concept expounded by some woke fanatics – funny that you picked this one up straight from the “enemy”).

This ability is in fact the precise definition of empathy. Some people lack it. You might just be one of them without realizing.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

I’ve all ready said I don’t have empathy for the LGBT etc. so how can I not realize it?

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

So you have met the girl/guy of your dreams and you are sitting down together getting to know each other better – what do you do, put a hand up and check out their equipment down there first, so make sure you are not getting a false bill of sale?

Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

We used to call them perverts.

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

For good reason. Homosexuality was understood in psychiatry as “inversion”. An inversion of normal development during puberty. Normal development was perverted.

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

We used to call you idiot. No, wait, we still do.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Weren’t you preaching tolerance in your previous post?

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Ah, but there is no need for tolerance for intolerant people. These may receive back all the intolerance that they produce. That applies regardless of their gender and political orientation, mind you.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

“Ah, but there is no need for tolerance for intolerant people.”

  1. Why, where’s your empathy?
  2. So you admit that you’re intolerant?
rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Yes, I’m intolerant against intolerant pricks. Now what?

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

So you admit you’re intolerant of people who are intolerant, but you just can’t grasp the fact that you are gazing into a mirror.

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

No dear, I am not the one advocating that discussion of various kinds of sexual orientation should be forbidden in school. I am not “offended” by you insulting me either, very much for free speech, you see – unlike our dear host TY, when it comes to certain topics.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

I’d rather you didn’t call me ‘dear’ and I know that you’ll respect my wishes.

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Yes, just like you will respect homosexual people’s wish not to be called deviants and pervs.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Are you speaking on your own behalf or for a friend?

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

No Dear

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

There was a World War One German warship called Beowulf – any relation?

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

The trouble with ‘gays’ is that they are always trying to push their agenda down your throat.

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

I don’t recall any time when a gay have pushed anything down my throat, but of course YMMV.

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Have to hope that is all they are trying to push down your throat – that is called a throat job isn’t it?

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

No, in my youth, “we” used to hang them – up to about the early 1970’s, as I recall

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

‘Deviation’ as in deviation from the ‘norm’ – ‘norms’ which have been only loosely enforced since the ‘permissive’ sixties – so in fact people have had great freedom of choice in their sexual preferences and identity . Now we have a Deviant Gender Fascism actually being imposed by our own Government which seems to be trying to collapse all previous norms and in their absence enforce “deviance” on the whole population – or encourage them in the direction at the earliest age – “bizarre” doesn’t get close. Good to know that he PM, with his own record of claiming his “norm” rights over many of the women he has met, is totally on board with Gender identity programmes being forced on young children by their teachers, encouraging them to confuse their sexual identity at the earliest possible age. We can only imagine the level of self-esteem, self-confidence, happiness and psychological stability and sense of purpose that this will generate as they grow up (dark irony intended) Collapsing a society’s norms and core values is an important part of creating the deliberate ‘chaos’ necessary to impose unimaginable technological tyranny ‘in the public interest’ – all part of the ‘Great Reset’ programme… Read more »

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Which freedoms are homosexuals denying to you? The freedom to discriminate against them?

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Has tree gone off duty then rayc?

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

It looks that way. Perhaps he’s been posted to the Ukraine for some R and R.

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Wtf are you talking about?

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Seems you’re in denial rayc.

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Denial of what?

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Just admit it and stop playing for time.

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

The possibility that ‘rayc’ is a sock puppet for ‘tree’ or ‘concrete68′.

I shouldn’t worry, you just have to stay true to your own opinions and keep on battling forwards.

I’m marked down as the ’77th’ – apparently it’s an army unit that ‘infiltrates’ forums like this. It’s not always easy to spot the line between humour and total lunacy.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

If you’re in any doubt, Mr Fox, about the existence of the 77th Brigade:

https://www.army.mod.uk/who-we-are/formations-divisions-brigades/6th-united-kingdom-division/77-brigade/

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

I did look them up once. Yes, perhaps they exist. But it’s also a handy way to dismiss other posters by claiming they’re of the ’77th’.

I was once told by someone who had served in the British Army “All you get in the Army is ignorance.” I still remember that, and I expect it’s based on a large dollop of truth.

I am not associated with ‘the 77th’ … but, then, of course, that’s what someone associated with the 77th would say, isn’t it??!!

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

“Perhaps”?

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Please stop engaging with the trolls. They only appear in order to spoil threads.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I’m Beowulf, it’s what I do. You must have read that wonderful poem about me, you know, where I slay the trolls Grendel and his mum?

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Apparently the possibility of other people having opinions opposing your own does not exist in your world and has to be explained away by some sort of conspiracy. Have you ever wondered where this sort of paranoia came from?

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

It’s not your opinions it’s your style.

Judy Watson
Judy Watson
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

My thoughts exactly – do you think that if you include fingal they are all the same person?

They all talk a load of cr@p

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Excellent post.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

That’s a belter DB.

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

I wonder how the Chinese Government deals with them?

hadenoughcrap
hadenoughcrap
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Jericho Green an American ytuber calls them the Alphabet Soup Group.

lorrinet
lorrinet
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

There are 26 letters in the alphabet – why not use them all in case some have been missed and to cover anything new? We could just call them ‘alphabet people’.

The perhaps the 90-odd % of the rest of us who are sick and tired of this nonsense could just get on with normal life.

Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

If they took out all the superfluous words they would only be left with ‘****ed up’

caipirinha17
caipirinha17
3 years ago

Anyone who’s worked in the uk public sector In the last five years will have seen the diagram. Norfolk police didn’t design it, they likely got it from stonewall or some other similar organisation.
I’m sure the group Erasure will be thrilled that their name has been hijacked and applies to one of the more negative categories.
Also, isn’t categorising people in this way part of the fundamental problem they say they want to resolve?

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  caipirinha17

The woke brigade don’t get hung up on inconvenient facts or logical culdesacs. That’s for the pedants.

Obviously the countermove is to add several dozen other designations. I identify as an attack helicopter is a popular one.

We beat this by using their logic not ours. If they can invent genders so can we. About 500 should do the trick.

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Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Didn’t Geronimo identify as an attack helicopter?

paul smith
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

No.
Geronimo identified as a parachute.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  paul smith

No I’m sure he identified as an Apache.

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Groan 🤣🤣

Mr Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Last year, my 11-year old nephew got into trouble in school for loudly self-identifying as an attack helicopter in response to one of his classmates identifying herself as ‘gender neutral’.

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

By the same logic the vaccinated are “normal” and you have a “mental disorder” for not accepting the vax. Maybe you should be “cured” of it by force? Beware what you recommend….

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

What a silly thing to say rayc/tree.

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

What is so silly about that, that is the exact mode of thinking of intolerant people. The minority is “abnormal” and should get a “special treatment” because of their “abnormality”. You see (or rather, don’t see), this treatment only “works” when you are on the majority side.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Being a Christian I’m in the minority in the UK. What ‘special treatment’ do you think I should receive? Do you think if I pray for someone with a disordered sexuality I should be prosecuted even if that person asks me to pray for them?

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

You seem to be getting the point, albeit slowly. Yes, because as a Christian you are in the minority, you should not be discriminated against, just like the majority should not discriminate against those of a different (minority) sexual orientation, and just like the vaxxed majority should not discriminate against those who decided not to take the injection.

Where you get the idea that I wish to persecute you, I don’t understand – because I just claimed the exact opposite and brought some convincing examples what persecution of minorities (always!) leads to.

What you seem to be arguing is that because you are in minority yourself, it’s ok for you to discriminate against other minorities? Those who “want” you to pray for them? I’m confused…

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

You are confused. I asked you a simple question (since we are chatting about tolerance), which related to the Government’s Conversion Therapy (Prohibition) Bill (you must be aware of it). That’s all. I never suggested that you were for the Bill, I was simply asking what your position was. I’m sure this Bill will mirror the legislation in Australia where it is a criminal offence to pray for someone struggling with same sex attraction, even if they want you to.

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Next time you refer to something, you better mention that thing. I’ve never heard of the Australian legislation you were talking about, but it appears to be the Australian Religious Discrimination Bills 2021. I checked – the word “pray” does not occur in any of them.

So it appears you are arguing from some fake news distributed by the exaggerating political opponents of these bills.

Not that Australia is renowned for freedom of any kind, as we’ve clearly seen during the pandemic. Quite the opposite.

In summary, you are spinning fantasies of religious oppression while ignoring the real oppression of sexually different people. Real, not purported, laws against such people exist in many countries today. In fact the existence – and enforcement – of such laws is the very reason why the movement started in the first place. So if you are worried about discrimination/persecution for your beliefs, you should be on their side, not against them.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

It seems there’s a lot you haven’t heard of rayc, I guess I wrongly assumed you were better informed. Perhaps you should talk to Martyn Iles sometime about the Aussie legislation.

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

The dude who seems to be one of those religious fanatics who mislead people about the actual content of laws in order to create fake outrage as demonstrated by your comments? Why should I talk to him? In the same vein, maybe you should talk to Richard Dawkins.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

He’s a lawyer. I’ll talk to Dawkins any time any place anywhere. Perhaps we could arrange a debate at the Oxford Union, he might turn up this time after wimping out of debating Bill Craig.

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Yes, I thought it was a valid point.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

You think chucking bricks at Matt Hancock is a valid response.

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Yes, I do. It’s the only language ‘they’ understand.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

So you agree with the left that language is violence?

Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

On a serious note this is about tyranny

‘We’ have invented a new reality in which men can give birth to babies. These are the words ‘you’ must now use. If you do not use the words we have given you then we will exclude you from society and we will eventually eradicate you

This is pure evil.

The agenda is about power, compliance and control

We have been asleep on the job and let this evil rise

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

It is not evil, it is irrational. The irrational rarely flourish and require considerable support to survive. At the moment, for various reasons, they get that support.

The backlash will be interesting to watch. The Norfolk chief constable won’t survive that.

Boomer Bloke
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Yes, men can get pregnant and give birth, unless of course they have an abortion. Andrew Lawrence explains how here:

https://youtu.be/yZN2h1TpZiM

Just Passing Through
3 years ago

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ImpObs
3 years ago

Tapped: Anyone partaking in gender identity agenda nonsense

Tapped-out: Everyone who’s had enough already.

Just Passing Through
3 years ago

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paul smith
3 years ago

Looks like the crappest episode of Mr. Men.

Just Passing Through
3 years ago

They who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” – Voltaire

Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago

So glad we took our kids out of school. They will have plenty of problems in their lives, but feeling that they need to figure out where they are in the ridiculous, horrific seven dimensional game of gender identity sliding scales should not be one of them.

I think a lot of this BS stems from the hysteria surrounding AIDS/HIV. People I went to school with were seriously affected by the “don’t have sex or you’ll die” mantra.

Emerald Fox
3 years ago

Won’t you have Ofsted or some such authority popping round to see you kids are getting a proper education?
Do you fell qualified to teach them English language, French/German/Spanish/Italian, Geography, History, Religious claptrap, Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Maths, Woodwork, Metalwork, Cooking, Sewing, Music, etc.?

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Religious claptrap? I don’t think that’s on any state syllabus. As for the rest, I wasn’t taught cooking, sewing, music, French, Spanish or Italian. Better get Ofsted to look into BFES schools pronto.

mariawarmth
3 years ago

Hey 👋🏻Everyone, I work in a 11 to 19 school and the ‘they’ pronoun is preferred by some students, is embedded now because it is requested/encouraged to be used from the majority of staff. It is another minefield to negotiate by such as me; if we have not had enough of these!!!!! I think we are storing up enormous identity crisis for these young people in their future. There are a few members of staff who cautiously share our views, mostly covertly in a stationary cupboards ha ha , in fear of the woke mob but truly it is tricky when again one is in the minority. So I avoid the pronoun and say there name for example “Boris has gone to reception” rather than the “they”. But shock horror if “ he” slips from my mouth the students check my language instantly, reeling around in me and remind me to say “they”. It is so difficult because I don’t agree with it!! Of course I don’t, I usually deflect and say ‘boris’ I think it is unkind to call someone literally an ‘IT’ and untrue biologically! very worryingly if you notice the gingerbread is targeting the young, I guess… Read more »

Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  mariawarmth

Hopefully you don’t teach English 😂

Oh goodness, I sympathise, Maria! Its brainwashing, plain and simple. I think most are participating in and enabling this horror unwittingly, but it is hard not to see this as a depopulation strategy. It’s one of the many reasons we took our kids out of school.

Good luck, stay sane!

Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago

* It’s brainwashing

Effin splellingcurrect

Emerald Fox
3 years ago

It’s PSI-B having another laugh at how stupid the British are.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

You’ve gone all racist now Mr Fox.

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

I think we’ve seen ample evidence over the past 2 years at just how stupid the British are.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

What all of them?

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

About 80%. Just count the face masks.

mariawarmth
3 years ago

Thank you 🙏🏻 the children are all lovely and they think they are helping me when they explain.
I know when I sometimes have the opportunity to explain the biology in a calm kind evidenced way, this may come to understand it in their future.
The classroom atmosphere is a supportive private one which helps with these tricky subjects and for the youngsters to foster their own abilities to investigate this subject with the scientific biological context. No voices are ever silenced, discussion is good. Free speech is good….

Dodgy Geezer
Dodgy Geezer
3 years ago
Reply to  mariawarmth

Get out of that school. As soon as possible, even if you have to take a pay cut.

Ideally, get out of that whole sector. I did….

mariawarmth
3 years ago
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer

It is all schools now, I have friends in other schools. The children are well versed and are knowledgeable about all the woke language from you tube content and have pride using it. In health ed classes 11 year olds put up there hands and talk about “what sex you are assigned at birth” I tried to explain that sex is NOT assigned because it is natural. When I also said that if your birth sex is girl or boy that is your gender , the students and some staff wanted to discuss this as debatable . I cannot have the same open discussion in classes where the “theys “ are because these youngsters get easily upset and escalated over this subject and there class friends feel it too. It is like walking not on egg shells but glass . I explained that the percentage of humans born where there was indistinguishable sex organs was a very very tiny percentage but these facts are causing levels of confusion and anxiety that could be seen. The youngsters believe that these preferred pronouns are kind and true. I have a good professional rapport with the students but they think it is my… Read more »

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  mariawarmth

Tbh, it sounds like wearing the wrong clothes or wrong haircut back in my time. And you are the pathetic tyrant who is trying to dictate which clothes/hairstyle are allowed.

This is what kids do, they rebel. And the way how they rebel and what they rebel against is well, implanted in their little brains by mass media.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

So, you call Annie an idiot and mariawarmth a pathetic tyrant and chide me for lacking ’empathy’. You really are confused, rayc.

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

I think you lack the mental capability of recognizing hyperbole in my comments.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Yes that’ll be it. You don’t really think Annie is an idiot or that mariawarmth is a tyrant or that I lack empathy (though I do). And I presume you don’t think I lack the mental ability to recognise that your exaggerated speech isn’t made to be taken literally? Well I’m convinced.

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

You see, when give it a moment of thought we can come to an agreement after all.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Is that how you understood my reply? What was it you said about a lack of mental capacity or something?

mariawarmth
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Hey Rayc
These youngsters are lovely they are not rebelling with this, I know them you don’t.
Their Clothes and haircuts are ways to express themselves which is great, a very different thing to one’s innate right to the biology that your born with, a joyous fixed reality not a haircut at all.
Your emotional language says how you feel about me, or you could have just asked me nicely, do I dictate like a tyrant , disallow discussion and be an old bag? Thankfully the answer would have reassured you that I am non of what you thought.
Hopefully this will help as I can see you have been rebelling today on here ha ha.
.. free speech though is best, keep it up, open discussion is the only way.

Smelly Melly
3 years ago
Reply to  mariawarmth

The first school where I live was built over 100 years ago and has 2 doors, 1 for boys and the other for girls. Should the school be knocked down to remove the offending signs which are in stone and part of the buildings structure or should a third door be installed with a list of “other” genders?

Deborah T
Deborah T
3 years ago
Reply to  mariawarmth

Maria, please please don’t partake in this by saying the child’s name instead of ‘he’ or ‘she’. If you partake, you are implicitly encouraging. If it is natural to you to say ‘he’ or ‘she’, as it would be for 99% of the population, including those in your school who are ‘going along with it’, please say ‘he’ or ‘she’. If the students say anything (I’m sure they love the opportunity to ‘tick off’ the teacher, just ignore. You’re not going to get fired for it. I’m a home tutor and I do realise that it’s a lot easier for me, but if ever a student ‘corrects’ me for saying ‘he’ or ‘she’, that will be the last time they do that.

emel
emel
3 years ago
Reply to  mariawarmth

Never mind, ‘they’ will grow out of it (eventually).

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  mariawarmth

That would be “Boris have gone to reception”, you inconsiderate old bag.

JASA
JASA
3 years ago
Reply to  mariawarmth

Why do schools now refer to pupils as students? This is the UK, not the USA. Here, in the UK, students are people that attend Higher Education institutions. Children at school are pupils.

mariawarmth
3 years ago
Reply to  JASA

Sorry Not sure ! It has been used for years now. I like pupils but use the term youngsters in a more relaxed discussion or our young people/children . I think students is Used in a lot of documentation now too.

JASA
JASA
3 years ago
Reply to  mariawarmth

Yes. I wrote to my son’s headmaster to complain about that and many other things. Our language is slowly being lost.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago

Perhaps we should compile a list to help the police understand who they get paid to apprehend. Here’s a few for starters:

Demicrimminal – someone who breaks the law occasionally.
Panburglar – someone who’ll break into anyone’s house.
Polythief – someone who’ll steal anything.
Polythiefnonscrewed – someone who’ll steal anything so long as it’s not screwed down.

Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Thanks for this, Beowulf! 😆

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Ha ha. These are great. Important to label them accurately.

iane
iane
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Politician – someone who is paid to steal everything you own.

Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  iane

Do you mean ‘Polytician’ ?

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  iane

? Someone who is paid by you to steal everything you own?

CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Panburglar – someone who’ll break into anyone’s house.

Are you sure that doesn’t refer to someone with a predilection for stealing kitchen utensils?

J4mes
3 years ago

Pay attention to the childish imagery. That’s because the LGBT perverts’ indirect target is children. Always rainbows, unicorns and cartoons.

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

That’s because many of the lifestyles are learned behaviour. A rewiring during puberty which sexualizes things outside normal healthy sexual targets, like the opposite sex.

Once you’ve sexualized an object, a thing or a concept, that mental pathway now exists. We used to call them paraphilias, fetishes. And as a result understood the darker side of their effects, the way a misuse of sexual drive would damage the individual, the fetishist himself. Now we force the notion it is normal, they are legitimately different etc.

But we forget the other 90% of the world does not think like this at all.

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Oh yeah, the “danger” that they may grow up and fuck a tree and cause themselves some abrasions. But wait, there was even one murderer who also liked to fuck trees. I think we can rest the case there, Dr. Child Psychologist.

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

How is tree?

rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

I don’t know, I don’t suffer from dendrophilia. You tell me?…

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

You sound like you do.

paul smith
3 years ago

Norfolk, itself, is a gender identity.

tom171uk
3 years ago

F*** off and catch some criminals for a change. Burglars and thieves (not people who visit their own elderly parents or who express doubleplus ungood thoughts on Facebook) and undercover cops who lie to women and make them pregnant.

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

🧐

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

We can pray for a Russian landing at Kings Lynn, it’s the only hope we have

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Say what you like about Putin, but he’s no fan of the trans, gay ranbow brigade and has made it abundantly clear it has no place in a civilized society.

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

😉

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

A Russian is more likely to protect your child from “Hormone Blockers” as being “evil against nature child abuse”!

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

I’m so pretty!

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RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

You may be, but he’s not.

Superunknown
Superunknown
3 years ago

Well this just proves how apolitical the police are doesn’t it?
Not counting the last two years of blatant thuggery they have displayed against legitimate protest, as opposed to the hands off, knee bending, and baby sitting service offered to others which are clearly promoting “the right ideology”
I know several serving and retired police, the few still in service can’t wait to get out, and many of the retired ones quit for just this reason.

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Superunknown

What ‘Police’? If you want to remember the ‘Police’ watch “Heartbeat “and weep – those were the days ( admittedly sentimentalised) when we actually had a Police Force and both a ‘country’ and ‘society’.

Blair also did for the Police and the Courts along his destructive campaign of ‘societal demolition’ dictated by his Globalist Masters.

Annie
3 years ago

As a Rebus fan, I hope Ian Rankin is taking this nonsense on board for a roof-level attack.

paul smith
3 years ago

‘Pansexual:

Attracted to all genders and/or not concerned about gender when attracted to someone.’

I object.
In reality (yes I know, but indulge me a moment) ‘pansexual’ has two other definitions, as follows:

A person inordinately attracted to cookware.’

or

‘One who pens withering reviews of the night before on the morning after.’

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  paul smith

Careful, even kitchenware must be policed 🧐

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For a fist full of roubles
Reply to  paul smith

When I were a lad, it was called sex mad.

Moderate Radical
3 years ago

So the cozzers are once again openly displaying their confusion/mental illness. These are the people charged with protecting citizens and upholding the law, which by definition requires they have a firm grasp of reality. Unhitching ‘gender’ from sexuality, dismantling the binary framework, inserting a bunch of made-up, non-categorical terms, and calling this ‘good’ is not only utterly deluded but it is destructive to society and those suffering from this illness.

Once again, the institutuon entrusted with upholding the law needs to be absutely gutted and built up again from scratch. It is rotten to the core.

Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago

Sod rebuilding, I think the sane need to run away.

There’s no way the Egyptians of today built the Pyramids.

It’s Fight Club. Did you watch that film?

Vaxtastic
3 years ago

Dilution. Rarely discussed. The Greeks today are also not the Greeks of Periclean Athens.

Our chancellor and our health secretary are not British yet no one discusses the effect of this.

RedhotScot
3 years ago

Once again, the Police force frantically seizing on something in a desperate attempt to be liked.

It’s not worked so far and they have had numerous attempts at it.

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

It is their Woke, PC wimpish Leaders – brainwashed and chosen for their wokist ‘diversity’ ( in fact they are all mental clones) after years of Critical Theory Marxist Sociology indoctrination in their worthless ‘Degrees’ ( sic)

RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Agree.

The job of coppers is to conform to the law and their oath by reporting offenders, not understanding them.

chris-ds
chris-ds
3 years ago

what absolute complete nonsense.

Gender is what ever the birth gender is. perceived gender is whatever these people want to identify as.

problem solved.

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  chris-ds

😉

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RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

The assumption being that the parrot self identifies as ‘him’.

RedhotScot
3 years ago

I’m so glad to have been a ‘Life on Mars’ Copper.

DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

In the real world are there still only 2 genders?

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

What is this “real world” you speak of?

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

He’s white noise

For a fist full of roubles
Reply to  DanClarke

Talking of white noise, has anyone seen Carrie lately.

emel
emel
3 years ago

No, thank God.

Woodburner
Woodburner
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

New screensaver…

Aleajactaest
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

yep, even rayc can’t hijack XX and XY.

Boomer Bloke
3 years ago

Clearly they employ thousands of people with not very much to do with a very large taxpayer funded budget. After all, the behaviour of the government and their enforcers over the last two year have reduced the rule of law to a joke.

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

When we promote people who cannot produce anything, we promote those who only know how to consume.

That consumption includes our laws, customs and conventions, all of which are just useful prebuilt things they can use to get their own way.

The Archbishop of Canterbury is using the CoE as a kind of elaborate set of objects to “spend” so he can elevate himself among his peers. Just one example. That’s how they think. All that stuff is valuable only in the sense of it being spendable.

RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Welby is interfering way above his paygrade.

Deborah T
Deborah T
3 years ago

It really should be as simple as this: people can identify themselves as one of these if they like, but other people, including teachers and police officers, have a right to identify them as men or women if they choose.

Boomer Bloke
3 years ago
Reply to  Deborah T

And we shouldn’t be spending taxpayers money pandering to their mental state/ fashion choices.

RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

Who? Teachers and police officers?