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huxleypiggles
3 years ago

As a committed conspiracy theorist I am convinced DS is working to keep me from my bed by these late releases.

Anyway, morning all.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Good morning, hp! And happy May Day, if such things are still celebrated.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Good morning AE.

Yes, I suppose we have a sort of Mayday. I suppose.

What was the equivalent in 1984?

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Please don’t mention that year!

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

(As in “Covid 1984)”?).

I imagine it as being bad luck, like mentioning “MacBeth” before a performance. Actually, the Disinformation Governance Board (and the Online Harms Bill, and goodness knows how many other bills and laws in other countries) does rather put one in mind of the “Ministry of Truth”…

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Funny thing, I wrote the above post before seeing this story, but yes, that’s the sort of thing I meant.
Still at least we’ll know what to do if they start banning people from expressing opinions on here…

Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Disinformation Tsar, as if the Tsars weren’t despots….

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

“Don’t mention the war” in my house. 🙁

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Morning Alter. I wonder if they still dance around May poles in the UK, or does such a thing no longer exist outside of Midsommer Murders re-runs?

Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

The Wicker Man…

Mogwai
3 years ago

LOL! I only saw the remake with Nicholas Cage. It was creepy but people have said the original is better. A cult classic indeed. 🙂

Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

The original was miles better!

The remake was dreadful.

Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Thank you for watching it so I don’t have to….

Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Sir, you have my sympathies, the remake is apparently the worst film ever made, according to a newspaper not known for sensationalism, the Fife and Dundee Courier.

There’s no substitute for the great Christopher Lee, however.

For a fist full of roubles
Reply to  Mogwai

They are allowed free expression and it all ends in a horrible tangle.

pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

They do here in the ‘Shire…

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Morning, Mogwai. An elderly English lady once said to me, rather nostalgically (after I had given her a Mayday greeting), “Ah May days, May days, Fucking in the Hay days.”

This is an accent that sounded rather like the Queen’s. So I really don’t know what goes on over there.

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Hahaha love it! She was posh but said the “F” word? Well I’ve never heard that little ditty before. It was probably also the days before telly so they people had to make their own home entertainment.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Good morning!

Apparently I spend too much time on “murky” sites!

Anyway, I remember when the releases used to be much later, and just one per day. A right scramble for “first” back then – I remember one morning when someone posted “it’s me this time”, and then was (or feigned to be) devastated when I beat him to it!

By rights, we should be dancing round the May pole today, shouldn’t we?

I do wonder though, why we keep getting a morning update bang on 7am (BST – or GMT in the “Winter”) regular as clockwork. All the other ones are at different times.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

May Day has long been an important day for Russia. I wonder what it might bring.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Thanks Hugh.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago

Vladimir Putin ‘poised to declare all-out war on Ukraine’” – The Telegraph reports that army chiefs want the President to drop the term ‘special operation’ and declare war which would enable mass mobilisation of Russians, in a further indication that Putin may be one of the more moderate figures in his administration.

With regard to this item, the following link may be of interest:

Full interview with Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov – YouTube

It’s dated April 30, from Al Arabiya.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

So. Zelensky said that he regretted the Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons. And the Polish prime minister said he would welcome it if nuclear weapons were moved to Poland fro Germany (as I suppose he had to under NATO rules).and Lavrov said that to ensure there is never a nuclear war, the west should discipline such speakers who say no danger in playing with very risky words

So where does this leave us? How far will NATO push Russia (and for what benefit to my country, I might add)? And are we in a more dangerous state than during the cold war?

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

And for that matter, what is happening on a cultural level (if anything)? Is the United States trying to diminish a country that isn’t woke enough (having previously not been capitalist enough – and I think of the African countries that were previously denigrated as heathens, and are now chastised for being too Christian)? And what about Hungary and Poland, which are perhaps not so woke (although they are having problems with the EU)? Or is it more about making money for American firms (which might be compared with the East India Company)? Are there in fact other more important aspects to this?

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I have heard it said that one of the differences between Russia and the US (or indeed the US sphere) is that in Russia professionals fill the key positions. Compare Lavrov with Blinken or Truss. Or don’t – it might fill anyone with despair.

I hoped that there were sane heads behind the scenes in the US. There were in the old State Departments. That no longer seems to be the case.

I think we’re looking at fantasist ideologues, who believe that the US (which they define as their own US interests) will win in the end, no matter what.

They imagine that if they defeat Putin, a man they cannot control, they will have vast new wealth. The rest of us can go to hell in a handbasket; and that includes, in the first instance, the Ukrainians,

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

I hoped that there were sane heads behind the scenes in the US. 

Those were the days!

chas cowie
chas cowie
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

I think that the Russians have worked out that all western politicians have little understanding of how the real world works. If it comes down to the Russians being forced to use nuclear weapons I would expect that the target would be someplace like Washington DC. I would then expect Russia and China to warn the West that unless they desist then an all out nuclear war will be unleashed. I think that the combined Russia-China capability is greater that the West’s capability.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

How far will NATO push Russia (and for what benefit to my country, I might add)? And are we in a more dangerous state than during the cold war?

Who can predict what NATO will do? I hope that the Pentagon will provide some cooler heads. In these situations, politicians are so often more foolhardy than people with actual military experience and understanding.

I think it’s more dangerous than at any time since 1949, when Russia tested its first atomic weapon and China became its potential ally.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

“They threaten punishment to countries who would not join their policies”.

Yes, I’ve suspected the so-called United States of doing that for some time (including with Kenya, as I’ve alluded to in another post).

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

And he speaks about food security. The issue has been discussed on here (prior to February), with a suggestion that a food crisis will be engineered (as appears in fact to be happening now). And if Billyboy Gates is involved, it appears he has some collaborators too. What exactly is going on here?

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

“They created an alliance of multilateralists that is based on European Union values”.

If I understand European Union “values” correctly, it is not to be wondered that Russia objected to attempts to draw the Ukraine (and its Russian population who did not particularly agree with this) into European Union values.

Dale
Dale
3 years ago

“Ukraine has a path to victory” … on Mars.

Mark
3 years ago

Moderately alert Europeans think the US intends to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian. The truly awake among them recognise that it’s not Ukrainians alone that are the patsies here…

“BREAKING NEWS: State Dept. insiders leak that Victoria Nuland has revealed that she is supporting cutting the EU off from Russian energy “not because I hate Russia, but because I hate Europe.”

https://twitter.com/GarlandNixon/status/1520457989030825984

Has Victoria “Fuck the EU” Nuland let the undiplomatic truth slip out again?

US neocons: “We must fight the Russians to the last Ukrainian and sanction them to the last Euro”

Ukrainian nationalists: “Ja, kill the untermenschen!”

EU and UK regimes: “Sir, yes sir!”

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I am encouraged by the leak. Somebody in the State Department is sane!

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I seem to remember that Obama was said to be not too keen on the UK (though some of us could be forgiven for thinking he wasn’t too keen on Kenya (keen on Kenya! 🙂 ) either). Has the current regime got certain views towards Britain and Europe then? I’m afraid it’s passed me by with all the other nonsense going on.

Hopeless - "TN,BN"
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Supposedly Biden’s Irish roots lead him to have an antipathy towards the UK. Obama was keen for the UK to stay in the EU, and presumably Biden shares that, to some degree. I expect the underlying consideration was that it was easier to control an EU as a single bloc, including the UK.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

Yes. Weren’t “vaccine” mandates racist? Wasn’t there an American tech firm that insisted on “vaccines” for its staff?

For a fist full of roubles
Reply to  Hugh

Do we conclude from that that the older, less white and gender confused are more work-shy?

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
  • Why is Canada euthanising the poor?” – Healthcare, particular for those suffering from chronic conditions, is expensive; but assisted suicide only costs the taxpayer $2,327 per ‘case’ – and, of course, those who have to rely wholly on Government-provided Medicare pose a far greater burden on the exchequer than those who have savings or private insurance, writes Yuan Yi Zhu in the Spectator.

Ah. So is it just possible that the betrayal of (especially poor) people in UK care homes leading to increased deaths (and presumably less demand for care home places) a cost cutting exercise? I suspect there are similar schemes going on in a number of countries. Because, you know, visiting the sick and caring for them is such an awful fag. And after all, people kill the unborn, so I’m sure some excuse can be found for killing the sick and elderly rather than caring for them…

Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

It costs dollars? I’m not impressed. In Britain, Wankok got thousands of old people killed for nothing – in every sense of the phrase.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I know a considerable number of people who have said that they would rather die than be submitted to what passes for “care” in too many care homes.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

What is this word, “transphobic”? …I’m afraid of change. And I’m afraid of food. And I’m afraid of babies. And I’m afraid of self. Be afraid. Be very afraid – or possibly take some advice from another source and “do not be afraid”… Just spin I suspect like all the rest of it. “Hesitant”? Bah!

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

” Declared their gender to be different from their birth sex or do not identify as either male or female, most of them since the lockdown, reports the Mail.”

Is it some psychological problem?

Actually, it has been reported that one of the factors behind this psychological problem is boys trying to live the life of an aborted sister (or vice-versa) – sibling seeking (and one of a number of issues relating to post abortion survivor syndrome). Although obviously you’re not allowed to have anything so controvesial printed in scientific journals, rgardless of how true it may be (though apparently you can print a story saying that the universe came from a dot and that dot came from nothng). Goodness knows what psychological problems the shambles of the last two years have unleashed, but I fear the worst…

pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I was told recently, by someone professionally involved with children’s mental health, that they are seeing a huge increase in this behaviour, at the same time as self-harming has practically dropped off the map… make of that what you will.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  pjar

I seem to remember a story about a string of suicides happening in a South Wales town – apparent copycat incidents. That would suggest that such incidents can be a result of being influenced by people one knows. Who knows, maybe changes in people’s relationships as a result of the shambles of the last two years have affected this. In any case, none of these behaviours might be expected in a healthy society. The Hunzas in their original state? The Eskimos before they were influenced by outsiders? Some African tribes? Did they have these behavioural issues? O would suggest that there have been societies where these behavioural issues has been rare or unheard of. What was that experiment with the rats that had just enough to eat and thrived – and another group that were given as much as they wanted and became decadent? Murky waters…

MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago
Reply to  pjar

‘at the same time as self-harming has practically dropped off the map… make of that what you will.’

Similar to the magical disapearence of influenza during the covid hoax period.

Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Quote:

“While the school tells parents if a pupil asks to go by a different name or pronoun, staff were ‘blundering along in the dark’ without government guidance, the teacher said.”

No such thing as common sense any more. This teacher plainly can’t pull up its own knickers without ‘government guidance’. Which means that for the last eighteen months it’s been wearing them on its face.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

“Why are midwives being told that biological men can give birth?” – It is surely beyond parody that a school of nursing and midwifery is teaching students that biological males can get pregnant and give birth, writes Debbie Hayton in the Spectator. My understanding was that some women like to pretend to be men, but naturally still have a womb and can therefore still give birth, but don’t like to be referred to as a woman. I mean, is there something more to it that I haven’t heard? Surely Junior is just science fiction (or more accurately science fantasy)? (And by the way, I’m not particularly afraid of people with these psychological issues, but I would rather like to establish how they may be cared for without disrupting life to the detriment of the rest of us. Someone on GB News talked about people who are “obsessives” dictating the agenda (meaning that, for example, you cannot have a lot of comedy anymore, that you retreat into a safe space of not saying anything controversial for fear of offending at the expense of full and informed debate (and was the rigid sticking to an official line re. the “covid vaccines” for fear of… Read more »

pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Bristol University has recently issued guidance on how to deal with people who believe that they are cats (yes, really) and to be supportive of them in their ‘delusion’… which rather let the cat out of the bag, so to speak.

Woke Academia: Bristol University demands recognition for people who identify as FELINES. This is how liberals create fake minorities and therefore vote banks – Kreately

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  pjar

I must admit I have quite a close affinity with these creatures…
There was that “white” woman who identified as “black”. Who knows where this will end? As long as people can’t legally alter their age…

Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  pjar

Felines eat tinned cat food out of a bowl on the floor, spend their holidays in cages at the cattery, and are euthanised when they become inconvenient. That’s how to treat them.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Well that’s turned me right off! Can I be a cat in ancient Egypt instead?

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Not my moggie! OK maybe the first bit..

Idris
Idris
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Also castration is quite common.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Idris

Supposed to be bad for them and unnecessary if they are handled correctly. Another tale from the Baltic…

Lowe
3 years ago
Reply to  Idris

In Spike Milligan’s Puckoon, the lead character Milligan fancied coming back as a cat (“sleep all day, independent, … stretched out in front of the fire”), until he remembered about the “terrible cat operation”…

NeilParkin
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Put them in a large carry box and take them to the vet for neutering…

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

By the way, can you still say “midwife”? Midspouse? Midspouseorpartner? (Hasn’t reached the spellchecker if so!)

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I’m still waiting for them to do away with the greeting “Ladies and gentlemen” because it’s deemed non-inclusive and inappropriate. Perhaps they should say “Ladies, gentlemen and everyone in between.” LOL Oh dear, it’s so absurd it’s like a comedy playing out.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

There’ll be the makings of a first rate comedy in this absurd age one day (or perhaps a horror story – “Furcht Und Elend).

I believe they already have done away with “ladies and gentlemen” in some places…

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Use of ‘mid’ is derogatory as it suggests a lack of endeavour. ‘Mid’ is just average and to be deemed average is tantamount to failure.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

You’re right (if I may use a directional term intended purely to denote correctness of an entirely non-discriminatory kind with no offence intended to those who might be temporarily incorrect).

I haven’t entered today’s discussion re this nonsense (although I’m enjoying the posts). It may be a comedy – but it’s a tragicomedy. We are poisoning our societies with these absurdities.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Offensive to left handers!

ellie-em
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Probably will be replaced by someone known as ‘birth-giver-helper’.

iane
iane
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

In scrolling down, I jumped to this post – were you referring to No 10, MPs or the civil service? {Asking for a friend.}

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  iane

Cats (or possibly people who identify as cats…).

Steve-Devon
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

When it comes to pregnancy, birth and suckling young, the important criteria is between mothers and fathers, never mind what you ‘self identify’ as, if you gave birth and you suckle young; you are a mother and you have entered motherhood, that cannot be changed by self identification. It is biologically and medically important to differentiate between mothers and fathers and in particular to recognise that the biology of motherhood is profound and can be quite challenging.
Most mothers that I have come across are so concerned for their baby that the only thing that really concerns them are the health and well being of their baby.

In the Simon & Garfunkel song old friends there are some old people making pertinent comments on this;

Children, and mothers, that’s the way we have it. 
Cause mothers do too much
That is mother’s life, to live for your child. (pause) Yes, my dear

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I just see a ‘pandemic’ of mental health issues in kids now and if that story in the Round-Up is anything to go by then being uncertain of your own gender is just one manifestation of this. If they’re stating that in one school 60 kids don’t even feel comfortable with their biological sex then how big is this issue if we factor in all other secondary school, colleges, universities, even primary schools possibly?

What I’d be interested in is what were the stats on this pre-2020, just to give a fair comparison. Is it the rise in ‘wokeism’ and the nonsense kids are taught in school which influences their thinking on this topic or is it due to an increase in depression, anxiety and too much isolation affecting their mental health and social development as a result of lockdowns or a combo of both?

Idris
Idris
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Is anyone allowed to ask exactly how!!!

chas cowie
chas cowie
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

So what is the difference in the way women give birth to the way women pretending to be men give birth?

Annie
3 years ago

The Grauniad piece made me laugh. Not because it’s amusing or witty or anything more than the sort of feeble squawking to be expected of a Grauniad writer, but because of its tranquil assumption that everybody gets covvie.

As a Grauniad writer, this feeble squawker has to be jabbed to the eyeballs, and so do all its ickle fwiends. They shouldn’t be getting covvie.

But then, thanks to the magic snake oil (one presumes), having covvie merely means taking a few days off work to mow the lawn. Without the snake oil, of course, the writer and all its ickle fwiends would be dead, dead, dead.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Have I had it? (No, I really want to know…).

If so, it has not resulted in me needing days off.

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Days off what?

iane
iane
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Well, at a wild guess: work.

MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago

‘Liz Truss raises the stakes by stating that the Ukraine war is “our war”.’

Only because you and your ilk made it so you war mongering tw@t.

Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

I think we should keep out of it.

We’ve got enough problems of our own.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

If she sees it as a career opportunity, she might like to brush up on her geography.

Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago

Disputing the claims of the Trofim Lysenko of medicine will get doctors struck off…

Boomer Bloke
3 years ago

The lazy, bloated civil service is dragging Britain down – and we are all paying for it” 

Just the civil service, Daniel?
What about the House of Lords, the House of Commons, the NHS, the police (see gingerbread story above), uncontrolled illegal immigration, perpetual capitulation to the EU by the government, capitulation to sharia law and other cultural practices in the name of political correctness, policies like net zero that have no electoral mandate or support, declaring proxy war on superpowers for no good reason, propping up delinquent states like Ukraine and so…and yes, we are all paying for it by rapidly increasing taxes, inflation, prices, and ever diminishing public services.

Boomer Bloke
3 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

And the anonymous down voter can go and take a phlying phuque at himself.

chas cowie
chas cowie
3 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

He has been particularly busy today. It is a pity DS doesn’t follow the TCW way that allows you to see who the voters are. I have no objection to anyone seeing which posts I agree with.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  chas cowie

Yes, and end up like those opinion polls where people give what they think is an acceptable answer rather than saying what they think. Upsides and downsides to any system.
Personally I mostly don’t take too much notice of either sort of tick, like the Kipling poem you know (would he be able to right “you will be a man” these days I wonder…).

chas cowie
chas cowie
3 years ago

Rather than half the MPs being women I would rather see a policy of at least half the MPs understanding things like engineering, science and economics. That should be the minimum qualification for all members of the cabinet or shadow cabinet.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  chas cowie

And war and geopolitics!

civilliberties
3 years ago

Half our MPs will be women, pledge Tories after Neil Parish porn scandal

the problem with this is it implies that women are not as good so they need to be given a quota system to compete which is completely counter productive, it also makes me laugh when their have been accusations that the troy party is rampant with sexism, if so then how come the tory party has had two female prime ministers, the current home and foreign secretaries are women, so is the secretary of state, and is the pensions minister, culture minster and leader of the house of lords are also women. It then comes down to again, speech that someone does not like.

Also bidens new board is straight out of 1984, only information that is state approved must be released.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  civilliberties

Also there are good reasons why women are less likely to do certain jobs (and more likely to do others) – as one would find out if one tried to impose a similar quota on the number of women chucking tyres about.

Star
3 years ago

I speculated that Neil Parish’s “tractor” reference was chosen to help him advertise tractors.

And whaddayaknow, the Telegraph is now reporting that “his friends” are saying he was searching for a “popular brand of combine harvestor” called “the Dominator”. The Tory rag even prints a photo of Parish standing by “a Claas Dominator combine harvester“. Apparently it’s “one of Europe’s most popular combine harvesters and was first manufactured in Germany in the 1970s.”

Until he fell from grace, Parish was chairman of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Select Committee.

I would imagine that the manufacturer Claas has members of that committee in its pocket and that it may also openly have its own representatives sitting on one or more advisory committees.

That’s how your local council works, and that’s how Parliament works.

There’s an excellent lesson here for students of politics and the media.

Star
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

In today’s Torygraph article…no advertising, there!

(It’s the leading image on their front page.)

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Lowe
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

They’re big wheels!