Hospital and Care Home Visiting Restrictions Are “Cruel, Inhumane and Unnecessary”, Doctors Tell MPs

The Pandemic Response and Recovery All-Party Parliamentary Group met this week to hear about visiting restrictions still being imposed by many care homes and NHS Trusts. Co-chaired by Rt Hon Esther McVey MP and Graham Stringer MP, the Group listened to evidence about the devastating effects visiting restrictions in hospitals have on patients and their loved ones. MPs also heard how visiting restrictions in care homes, along with the continued use of rolling lockdowns and over interpretation of testing guidelines, is leading to isolation, neglect and abuse of the residents.

Leandra Ashton, who co-founded The People’s Care Watchdog, Dr. Ammar Waraich, a medical registrar in the West Midlands, Carol Munt, experienced Patient Partner and Advocate and Dr. Ali Haggett, community mental health and wellbeing specialist, told MPs of the obstacles still in place when trying to visit a loved one and the shocking impact on vulnerable hospital patients, care home residents and their families.

All the speakers voiced serious concerns that obstacles are still in place in some healthcare settings. Politicians heard harrowing accounts of the harmful effects of isolation and loss of social contact on physical and mental health, safeguarding problems with medication, dehydration, hygiene and lack of basic care and the failures to uphold existing legislation to protect those who lack capacity.

Leandra Ashton’s mother was arrested in November 2020 for taking her grandmother out of her care home a day before the second lockdown. Two years on, many residents are still being isolated from their loved ones. She told MPs:

When I took the video of my mum being arrested taking my nan out of her care home, I did not think it would go viral. So many families got in touch and it led to us setting up the People’s Care Watchdog. We were struck by how much legislation is in place, such as Article 8 of the Human Rights Act, Deprivation of Liberty and the Mental Capacity Act, to protect those in care homes. These laws are simply not being upheld and instead guidelines are being over-interpreted and the legislation even used to keep people in care homes and hospitals as if they were prisons. The public bodies that are supposed to uphold the protective legislation are not doing so.

There are still obstacles in place when trying to visit a loved one in a care home and the impact has been and continues to be devastating. The safeguarding issues I am seeing and hearing about are atrocious. Residents left for hours in dirty, wet incontinence pads leading to dangerous pressure ulcers. Malnutrition. Dehydration. End of life medication given to patients without their or their family’s consent. Psychological trauma, post-traumatic stress and suicides have resulted because of this. Multiple systems are failing, including Local Authorities and the CQC. It is a complex situation that needs a bold approach by both empowering families and galvanising Government action to hold public bodies to account and stop private equity firms placing profit over people.

Listening to the evidence, Esther McVey said:

I am troubled by the evidence presented by our speakers, particularly the safeguarding issues and neglect that care home residents are suffering as a result. In hospitals, we have heard about patients losing hope and refusing treatment without the encouragement of family. We know patients have much better treatment outcomes when they have support from relatives and friends around them.

Most of the infection control measures that restricted visiting in healthcare settings have been removed, most recently NHS Trusts were told healthcare workers, patients and visitors no longer need to distance in hospitals, so I fail to see why and how these visiting restrictions are still in place in any healthcare setting. I shall be writing to the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care to ask that he makes it absolutely clear that all patients and residents must be able to see visitors.

Highlighting how visitation is an important and necessary part of healthcare, Carol Munt said:

In the same way that we would not stop prescribed medication and treatments, we should not have stopped visits. Why were decisions taken without any consideration for the need of patients and their families to connect? Why do we still have such variation in compassionate care across the country? There is no uniformity among care homes apart from the need to be profitable for their owners. Some care homes made a superhuman effort to arrange visiting, as did the Bristol Nightingale Hospital. There was good practice in some places so there should be good practice everywhere. We should expect more of these endemic situations and we must be prepared for them.

I could not comprehend how any Minister for Health and Social Care could allow this to happen and not make the effort to get his department to look at ways that visiting could be facilitated. I heard and continue to hear the most callous reports of relatives dying alone with no visitors. The same goes for hospital patients. Ultimately, I think we need legislation to ensure that visiting rights are enshrined and protected.

Medical Registrar Dr. Ammar Waraich reported that many hospitals are still preventing visits due to the potential risk of Covid spread:

The policy is cruel, inhumane and unnecessary. Seeing loved ones can be immensely therapeutic and give struggling patients the will to survive. It is deeply traumatic for families to lose loved ones suddenly or see them go through difficult treatment without being there in person. Video calls are not a good enough replacement and we do not have the staff, the time or resources to facilitate calls for all our patients.

Most infection control measures have been lifted as the level of risk is no longer there. Hospitals can no longer function as detention centres and an inpatient stay should not become a sentence. The policy was one of the major mistakes of lockdown. Visiting sick relatives in hospital is, and must remain, a fundamental right, not to be given up.

Co-chair Graham Stringer said:

I find it extraordinary that no visiting is allowed in some healthcare settings, even to this day. It is cruel that family members are being denied access to sick and vulnerable loved ones, often not getting regular updates, living in anxiety about what their relatives may be going through, but knowing they are going through frightening and difficult treatment, often at the end of their lives, without being able to be with them in person.

“At the height of the pandemic it was understandable that there were precautions but there is no longer a basis to that argument. All the restrictions have been lifted and NHS Trusts across England have now been told to ‘return to pre-pandemic physical distancing in all areas’. The government must take action to resolve this situation.

Speaking about her experience working in the community throughout the pandemic, Dr. Ali Haggett said:

I have spent the last eighteen months with the support group Unlock Care Homes, uncovering the plight of many thousands of families who are still denied regular, meaningful contact with care home residents and hospital patients. Even before Covid, we knew that isolating people, particularly older people, has a serious impact on physical and psychological health. We have continued to isolate adults in care and in some hospitals almost continuously for two years. The effects have been felt particularly badly by those with dementia. Many residents no longer recognise their families and have been denied the most basic of human needs.

My concern is that this situation is concealing neglect and abuse on a significant scale. One of my community members sadly died and the hospital has admitted liability partly because he was completely blind and couldn’t reach his food or drink. Had his wife been allowed to visit, this wouldn’t have happened. Families I work with report numerous issues still affecting them, not just visiting restrictions. Rolling lockdowns, over-interpretation of testing, PPE requirements resulting in poor communication and fear, lack of ancillary services such as podiatry or physiotherapy leading to huge health problems, residents asked to isolate when one person tests positive, sometimes for 10 days or more and the one significant visitor recommendation being ignored or rejected. Families must be able to visit openly and check the wellbeing of residents.

Stop Press: MPs and Peers including Esther McVey, Lord Frost, Sir Iain Duncan Smith, Sir Graham Brady, Emma Lewell-Buck, Graham Stringer and Sammy Wilson have written to the Telegraph to say they are “deeply concerned” that visiting is still forbidden in many institutions where “over-interpretation of testing guidelines is leading to isolation, neglect and abuse of vulnerable residents”. They point out that Article 8 of the Human Rights Act and the Mental Capacity Act “could and should have protected against this situation arising” but this legislation is being “wilfully misinterpreted as an excuse” to keep people isolated in care homes and hospitals “as if they were prisons”.

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BJs Brain is Missing
3 years ago

There are some real evil-doers in this country and the last two years has given them plenty of scope to practice and implement their anti-human inclinations. Why hasn’t Hancock been arrested yet?

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago

I know that there are individuals who care immensely, but what happens? This report was issued in October 2020:

UK: Older people in care homes abandoned to die amid government failures during COVID-19 pandemic (amnesty.org)

In Australia, after repeated scandals, we had a Royal Commission, which tabled its report in March 2021:

Final Report | Royal Commission into Aged Care Quality and Safety

Nothing will happen, as your question suggests, until someone is arrested over this – and I’m not referring to the occasional person arrested for isolated acts of cruelty and assault (which also occur).

Emerald Fox
3 years ago

Because the Common Law Constables of the Guardians300 are still studying the Magna Carta?

annepassman
annepassman
3 years ago

It’s not only Hancock, is it? All over the country there are little tinpot dictators mouthing “health and safety” at every available opportunity. Don’t remember such things in 1967/8 when over 80,000 died of Hong Kong flu

Slow Burn
Slow Burn
3 years ago

Disgraceful.

What’s worse, there are still some pushing for more.

MikeHaseler
3 years ago

Visiting restrictions make it much easier for staff … no prying relatives to complain at any mistreatment

misslawbore
misslawbore
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeHaseler

Until the Writ of Summons for negligence arrives …

Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

‘cruel, inhumane and unnecessary.’ 

Three words that sum up Matt Hancock

itoldyouiwasill
itoldyouiwasill
3 years ago

Bit late to be speaking out now. Where were these voices 18 months ago? Anecdotally, I know of a doctor recently trying to get out of seeing a suspected dementia patient face to face, and insisting on using zoom. This triple vaxxed twat is probably on north of 100k but is still refusing to do his job properly. If our NHS had any kind of integrity, he would be fired on the spot.

Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

I’ll tell you where they were. They were in the House of Commons voting to strip us of our freedoms

caipirinha17
caipirinha17
3 years ago

It’s a funny beast, our NCS. GPs are the gatekeepers but their surgeries aren’t part of thr NCS at all – they’re private businesses/companies, so this shining example wouldn’t be subject to NCS disciplinary procedures. If they work for the practice they own, it’s even more tricky to hold them to account.

CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  caipirinha17

The Care Quality Commission can still take action (but probably won’t).

snipola
snipola
3 years ago

‘Tripple Vaxed Twat’ brilliant

Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

 “wilfully misinterpreted as an excuse” to keep people isolated in care homes and hospitals “as if they were prisons”.

Excuse me, inmates in prison are allowed visitors. There are also prison visitors to monitor the welfare of prisoners



Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

And they are entitled to exercise. And socialising. And their bed and board is free.

misslawbore
misslawbore
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Yes. Being in a locked ward in a hospital with a blanket visiting ban is actually worse than being in prison. Step forward the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Birmingham

loopDloop
loopDloop
3 years ago

Now if some of these old people in care homes were being addressed with the incorrect pronouns, ok THAT would be a terrible thing. But neglect, loneliness, despair these are mere trifles.
We have become monsters.

ellie-em
3 years ago

It seems there were far too many doctors who thought the visiting restrictions imposed by care homes applied to them, too, as they were nowhere to be seen…

Catee
3 years ago

Bugger guidelines all testing needs to stop..
According to the ‘oracle’ Fauci (in my opinion one of satans most adoring acolytes) the pandemic phase is over, therefore it is now endemic, like other coronaviruses, influenza etc for which there is no routine testing.
Of course the WHO have not made an ‘end of pandemic’ declaration yet because legally the EUA for the jabs would end and they haven’t been able to get them on the ‘routine’ child immunisation list yet.
Relatives should get together en masse and force their way into homes and hospitals, recording their findings as they go, a large enough number of determined people would put an end to this bollocks immediately.

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

“Relatives should get together en masse and force their way into homes and hospitals, recording their findings as they go, a large enough number of determined people would put an end to this bollocks immediately.”

Yes, that’s the way to do it! It makes you wonder if people are so angry why they haven’t done this sort of thing already.

Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Because they’re like you: always ready to carp, never willing to get off their arses and do effing anything about anything.

Woodburner
Woodburner
3 years ago

I refer you to today’s News Round-Up.

Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

The NHS behaves like a South American Drug Cartel

They kidnap your relatives and then kill them

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Also the NHS is funded by ransom (income tax is a form of ransom, pay up or go to jail)

Dame Lynet
Dame Lynet
3 years ago

Apart from the drones in healthcare ‘just following orders’ and the doctors’ receptionist gatekeeping attitude some have towards the public, a big part of the problem in getting this evil recognised is overcoming the mental block of the ‘nice’, ‘caring’ average Joes and Joannas making up the majority of the population, who simply do not want to see it, despite their rampant virtue signalling at every opportunity.

Sceptics know from experience how the barriers go up as soon as things like this are mentioned – they just don’t want to know.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Dame Lynet

I see avoidance of anything that might approach agreeing that our governments aren’t just amiably silly; but dangerously incompetent or worse.

Poking fun is fine for them. What happens when governments and officials aren’t funny any more? What then? Protest isn’t easy, and many fear that it will never be effective.

misslawbore
misslawbore
3 years ago
Reply to  Dame Lynet

Can we set up a commune? I need a break from friends and relatives who are Covid normies much as I love them

John Dee
3 years ago

Good to see more physicians weighing in and stating the obvious, after a lag of only two years. They must have spent the time ‘doing research’.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

long term “research” only takes 6 months when you already know the answer.

Rogerborg
3 years ago

I’m seeing terrifying – and I use that word advisedly – number of Scotchfolx putting their muzzles back ON this week, in retail, and even on the street.

What happened? Did Kween Krankie issue another diktat, or snap “Dae as Ah say, no as Ah dae” ?

Genuinely baffled by this.

John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

There’s a certain kind of logic to ‘I’ve been wearing a mask and I haven’t died yet, so…’
It’s reputed that some of the legendary football managers used to wear the same socks for as long as a winning streak lasted.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

My lovely aunt has turned into a right karen this last two years with her fawning over all the covid restrictions, complaining about those “in her space” and not wearing masks. She triumphantly said she hasn’t had a cold in the two years because of her mask (but tests positive for covid quite regularly, despite having three, or maybe four sugars) Have to remind her that “me neither” and I’ve done NONE of it, which irks her somewhat. But that said I truly despise the chasm that’s opened up between us, purposely engineered by the State, even though we try keep it together.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

On a similar line of logic I have my lucky toe clippings and the space giraffes haven’t invaded either!

Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Indeed, but why am I seeing more and more going back on, after a brief dalliance with freeedommmm?

Small sample set, purely anecdotal, but it was startling last evening how many faces weren’t to be seen again. It’s a genuine-genuine question, since I’ve been following the data and not the theatre – has there been any renewed screeching from our “leaders” and Lügenpresse?

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

perhaps it’s the unseasonal double un-plus global warming this time of year and they use an old face covering instead of an out-of-season scarf to stay warm?

djmo
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

We need a mass eye-rolling campaign. It’s a virtue signalling thing for most of them (other than the genuinely fearful), and we need to disabuse them of the notion that it’s making them look virtuous. Some will take funny looks as a sign of their moral superiority, but many just want approval, and will soon ditch the masks when they realise it’s having the opposite effect.

djmo
3 years ago

Maybe, however unlikely it sounds, somewhere there’s a parallel universe where politicians actually listened to what was important to granny, instead of deciding what was best for her and accusing anyone who disagreed of killing her…

Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  djmo

Yes, every day for the last 25 months I wake up thinking, “Not this again, where is the world I was in?!”

Moderate Radical
3 years ago

I remember 20 May 2020 vividly. I spent hours on the phone to a man who was in the hospital car park, utterly desperate to see his wife. He begged, wept, shouted to be let in, but we said no – for the greater good of everyone else. She died unexpectedly and alone, as the Government had a party.

(Jenny, NHS nurse)

This type of appalling, inhumane treatment has over the last two years become normalised and is now deemed acceptable, necessary and good in some vague, unascertainable utilitarian commitment aimed at achieving the greatest good of a greater number of people.

This is what we have become as a society. This ‘woman’ actually believed she was doing ‘good’.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

It’s a sort of Social Masochism you find in puritan movements.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

another great job NHS
“unexpected” death in hospital means no one really did any testing.
crap from “our” carers

A Heretic
A Heretic
3 years ago

They posted that as though it was something to be proud of?
What an absolute bunch of c**ts.

tom171uk
3 years ago

The hypocrisy of the Labour party is breathtaking. They never opposed any lockdown measures nor demanded and assessment of the damage they cause. They are disgusting.

Emerald Fox
3 years ago

Jenny who? Surname and name of hospital missing. Also the names of her colleagues who wouldn’t let this man in to see his wife. Then he can visit them and deal with them as he sees fit.

Annie
3 years ago

As soon as you hear ‘for the greater/common good’, you can be absolutely certain that it isn’t for your good.

RW
RW
3 years ago

That’s what the Labour party has become (or maybe turned out to be): The government’s having a party because they damn well know that all these restrictions are useless, just as Ferguson damned well knew that having his mistress travel through all of London in order to meet him didn’t pose a risk to anyone. Meanwhile, women separated from their husbands die in isolation wards. But the so-called opposition cannot get itself to actually oppose government policies. All they want is more husbands and wifes and grandmas and grandpas dying in useless isolation to pretend harder that the only wrongdoing during this time was people disregarding something they knew to be pointless.

Moderate Radical
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

Well put.

Their behaviour demonstrates that those who attended the Downing Street parties did not believe that there was a pandemic. Irrespective of their words, their actions revealed that they were not concerned either about transmitting or contracting any disease. For them, there was no pandemic risk; there was no pandemic.

In a real pandemic or epidemic, people are fearful—for good reason: there is a risk that social activities could prove to be lethal. That was not the case during the World Health Organisation’s (WHO) alleged Covid-19 pandemic…

(bold original)

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/the-truth-about-partygate-that-everyone-seemingly-ignores

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago

When we watch the horrors of Shanghai we are achieving the same without the spectacle.

epythymy
epythymy
3 years ago

Sat reading this on my break in the hospital. Sat “socially distanced” from my colleagues before I head out and put a mask back on. In the room next to me is a patient with her family. Still only allowing 2 visitors per patient per day for one hour. All meetings bizarrely held in the same small room rather than the patients single bedded rooms. One visitor at a time.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  epythymy

“All meetings bizarrely held in the same small room “

IS the plan to spread as much illness as possible?

dearieme
dearieme
3 years ago

We had a family member in a care home. No visits for two years, and mobile phone reception so poor we could not reliably speak to her. Did any government minister, any Public Health Expert, think of acting to arrange that all care homes at least had a decent mobile signal? Thought not. Heartless creeps.

DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

When this first began I couldn’t believe what I was reading, denying families the right to see their family members, splitting families up, restricting comfort at funerals, WTF!!! Heads should roll without a doubt.

Smelly Melly
3 years ago

Slightly off topic, but what happened to the MP caught watching porn, it seems to have been dropped by the MSM. But over 2 years of propaganda for a virus that only kills the very vulnerable and the MSM cannot drop the subject.

tom171uk
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

It’s being investigated… There’s a procedure to follow… Can’t comment while that’s happening… Also a Labour person has been fingered for misogynistic comments so they have calmed down their righteous indignation.

JXB
JXB
3 years ago

Nice to see people speaking out about what some of us were saying nearly two years ago.

Better late then never.

I suppose ‘lessons will be learned’.

Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago

Restrictions in care homes and hospitals? How about hospitals locking people in wards? I have a friend who is being treated for cancer. She has been having trouble eating and swallowing, so, it was agreed she should go to hospital for a “camera down the throat” to see what was going on. Upon arrival both she and her husband were “tested for covid”. She was negative, he was told he was positive, so was told to leave the hospital immediately. Neither had any symptoms. She was placed on a ward waiting for the procedure, re-tested, and this time it was positive. Whereupon our sainted NHS said that her procedure would not take place until she was “clear” as the person doing it would not treat covid patients. The delay would be about 10 days. And rather than saying ” go home and come back in 10 days”, she was put in a ward and the door was locked. Yep, you do read that right. The ward had a keypad and the patients weren’t allowed out, visitors were not allowed in, and there she had to wait. Some patients were, not surprisingly, disturbed; one in particular kept trying to smash the… Read more »

CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Is there actually any legal basis for detaining people in those circumstances? What would they do if someone insisted on leaving?

Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

That’s what I’d like to know.

Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

And if there was a legal basis it should be ignored.

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

“However a nurse refused to let her out”

Name and address? Go round and lock her in her own home? Why can’t the hospital be named?

misslawbore
misslawbore
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Why aren’t the legal charities stepping up for this to support patients and relatives/friends?

Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

God, how utterly vile.

PhilButton
PhilButton
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Your friend should seek legal help. I’ve been involved in a negligence claim, the incompetence it revealed was shocking.

misslawbore
misslawbore
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Agreed

Greyjaybee
Greyjaybee
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

How utterly horrible…how dare they. I’m afraid I’d probably have got physical and gone home one way or another…..the NHS is so broken and it seems so beyond reform, the sooner it is smashed to pieces and replaced with something humane, the better.

Grumman
Grumman
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Javid along with it. It was not until the oaf tried to bully those nurses when the doctor stepped to the plate that this started to fall apart. A true doctor of medicine, unlike that fraud Whitty, put up to it by his sneering partner in crime Valance.

ellie-em
3 years ago

How ironic. Some senior doctors becoming quite agitated and resignations in the offing – not about professional responsibilities and duty of care (or lack of) – but due to their pension scheme benefits being eroded.

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Greyjaybee
Greyjaybee
3 years ago
Reply to  ellie-em

Let them resign.

ellie-em
3 years ago
Reply to  Greyjaybee

Strange isn’t it how they suddenly find a voice when it’s to protect their finances, rather than in respect of ‘do no harm’ to their patients?

Greyjaybee
Greyjaybee
3 years ago
Reply to  ellie-em

Judging by their reluctance to do their job over the past couple of years, I’d say it’s sadly all too predictable.

DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

Even in ‘normal times’ you could see the type that would revel in this sort of power, swanning around with overbearing and officious attitude, they need to realise they are paid to serve the public not the other way around, all of the clapping did no good at all.

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

In fact the clapping made the situation worse. The power crazy bureaucracy took it as permission to do what they wanted in pursuit of their wicked decisions

misslawbore
misslawbore
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

We need a Hall of Shame on here at the very least. Hospitals with blanket bans should be named and shamed. Roll up the first one with first prize for its cruel inhuman blanket ban on visiting: The Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Birmingham.

lutherkehrt@gmail.com
lutherkehrt@gmail.com
3 years ago

Credit where credit is due.
Today Kingston Hospital happily let me visit a dying member of our congregation ,and didn’t make a fuss at my masklessness. They allowed me to stay for three hours, and would have let me stay longer.

misslawbore
misslawbore
3 years ago

Yes Kingston Hospital is one of the better ones for visiting. They are even welcoming! Unlike the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Birmingham with its blanket visiting ban

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

It now seems increasingly obvious that the cruelty is deliberate.

Richard
Richard
3 years ago

Don’t even start me on this, it makes my blood boil. My mother-in-law, who has dementia is in a care home and only my wife’s older sister has ‘officially’ been allowed to visit in the last two years as the designated contact. My wife and her younger sister have had to resort to pretending to be the.older sister in order to see their mum. And when on the rare occasion they do get in its socially distanced in an outside courtyard wearing face nappies. Image what that does to helping her with her dementia. As for me and the other son-in-laws, we haven’t been allowed anywhere near the lady we were once very close to. And the home charges us London Hilton prices for the privilege of her being in these prison conditions.

wantok87
3 years ago

The frightening aspect is that nurses doctors and scientists refuse to understand that they are causing death and promoting morbidity by SARS-CoV-2 obsession. The squirming mass of immature humanity,which presents itself as Matt Hancock, should not be given the oxygen of publicity but then neither should Vallance or Whitty. We need a Skeptic Investigation of the Covid19 response.

PhilButton
PhilButton
3 years ago

From my experience, prepandemic, of a patient seemingly suffering neglect, hospitals don’t like visitors.
They spot things not being done correctly. Fluids not being given or monitored. Drug trolleys being left unlocked and unattended. Specialist instructions not being followed.
Some visitors just pop in for an hour for a chat, others insist on checking medical notes, helping with feeding and drinking, asking doctors awkward questions – perhaps, something like ‘what is wrong with the patient’ when the doctors don’t have a clue, and generally interfering in ‘care’ in a way that might actually help the patient recover – even avoid death.
Can’t have that can we?