New York City Data Show Infection Rates TWICE as High Among the Boosted – But Trickery Hides Low Infection Rates Among the Unvaccinated

I want to take you on a journey – a journey into data.  What you take from this is up to you – perhaps you’ll gain a healthy scepticism of statistical data presented by experts; perhaps you’ll gain an understanding of types of tricks that might be used to massage data to favour a particular outcome; or perhaps you’ll even decide that government experts are far more likely to be right than a random person on the internet. All that I ask is that you come on the journey with me.

The journey starts with a statement made by outgoing Mayor of the city of New York, Bill de Blasio:

We want everyone, right now, as quickly as possible, to get those boosters. And we’re going to make it even better for you with a new incentive and an incentive that is here just in time for the holidays. As of today, we’re announcing a $100 incentive for everyone who goes out and gets a booster here in New York City, between now and the end of the year.

The former Mayor seems to think that there’s no doubt that the vaccines, and the booster vaccine in particular, offer the way out of the Covid epidemic. Let’s see what the data say.

Taking the Data at Face Value

A quick exploration of data sources finds that New York city publishes a fairly decent collation of all of their Covid case data, and one document in particular contains data on cases and case rates by vaccination status – do the data on cases in the fully vaccinated versus the boosted support the Mayor’s faith in the booster?

That’s actually rather a surprise – even the NYC official data on case rates by vaccination status show that while the vaccine booster might have once offered some protection against infection with Covid, by late January the protection had been lost and in recent weeks case rates in those given the vaccine booster have been approximately double that of the fully vaccinated but not boosted. It isn’t clear why this is the case – perhaps it is the BA.2 variant of Omicron showing increased vaccine escape; perhaps it is the vaccine protection waning – all we know is that the boosted appear to be far more likely to get infected than the fully vaccinated.

These data suggest that de Blasio really should warn people that NYC official data suggest that in taking his $100 they’re going to be twice as likely to become infected, twice as likely to infect a vulnerable person and will be helping to make each Covid infectious wave far more serious.

But of course, I’m being naughty here – I’m guilty of omitting relevant data. How do the unvaccinated fare?

Ouch. Perhaps the former Mayor should have focused only on the unvaccinated for his $100 bribe – these data suggest that the sweet-spot is to be fully vaccinated.

But wait – my spidey-senses are tingling…

The Date of the Data Updates

A quick look at the data for the unvaccinated versus the vaccinated in the graph above shows signs of a simple statistical pitfall. For most of the data points there’s a general agreement in the trend between unvaccinated, fully vaccinated and boosted – they generally all go up together and all go down together, even if there are differences of scale.  However, the most recent data points (far right) buck the trend, with the data for the vaccinated showing only a slight rise (below the trend), but the unvaccinated a significant jump upwards (above the trend). This reminds me of a study I was involved in many years ago, where the early data that came in supported the goals of the study, but as the rest of the data came in we discovered that the rest of the data didn’t – our early data was biased. Has the New York infection data suffered a similar fate?

Fortunately, the NYC data is hosted on ‘Github’, a platform that not only hosts the data but also gives information on each and every update to the data – thus we can explore how data are updated after their initial addition to the database. To explore this aspect of the data we can’t use the most recent data (as there’s been no opportunity to update them yet), but we can look for evidence of the effect in prior weeks’ data – I’m going to pick two weeks as examples, data for the week of March 12th and March 19th:

Let’s start with the data for March 19th (on the left, above). When the data for this week were originally published it was stated that there were approximately 3,200 cases in those vaccinated with two or more doses and 2,000 cases in the unvaccinated. However, in the following week’s publication the data for the week of the 19th had been updated, to approximately 3,800 cases in those vaccinated with two or more doses and 1,400 cases in the unvaccinated. A glance at the update two weeks after the original publication shows that the figures had found their level – after that first week’s update there is little change in the data. The data for the week of March 12th (on the right, above) confirms the effect – exactly the same pattern is seen.

It is worth pointing out explicitly two aspects of their updating the data in this way:

  1. The NYC authorities are almost certainly only reporting the most recent data in their headline statistics and in their releases to the press. Thus they will be exaggerating the case rate in the unvaccinated and understating the case rates in the vaccinated. Sure, the update might be reported somewhere, but who wants to go trawling around in the data-mud when all the headline data are so easily found?
  2. There is only a week’s delay between the original publication of the data and the first update but this is where the bulk of the correction occurs.  The data have already been delayed by two weeks before publication, so waiting an additional week to allow the data to settle down to their final state would seem the obvious choice.  Are they deliberately publishing the data early to mislead the public?

But wait – I can see that the data shown above is hiding another problem in plain sight…

The Unstated Assumption

If you look at the bar charts of our two example data update periods you should see that in their updates they don’t actually add many new cases – the main impact of the update is to transfer cases from the unvaccinated into the vaccinated.  This raises obvious questions, such as what on earth is going on?

When working with data there are all sorts of assumptions, most of which will be stated somewhere. For example, in the datasets we’ve been working with they define a case of Covid not as ‘all cases’ (as you might expect) but only as ‘cases in those aged over five’. The reasons for this definition of ‘case’ in the data are reasonable enough, but the important point is that they’re stated explicitly in the accompanying documentation. However, there are also unstated assumptions, and these are potentially dangerous. In scientific studies it is very important that all efforts are made to turn these into stated assumptions, so that readers (and team members) know exactly what assumptions are being made. This is often why scientific documents are very dry and boring – all of the ‘obvious’ assumptions really need to be tied down, to remove any source of error arising from different interpretations.

In the case of the NYC data and updates, the data quite clearly show that there are few additional new cases brought into the data set after the initial data release; rather, the update mainly moves cases from the unvaccinated group to the vaccinated groups. This is presumably a result of linking each case to the city’s vaccination database.    

It very much looks as though there is an unstated assumption – that the vaccination status of all individuals is ‘unvaccinated’ unless proven otherwise.

Beyond this, it is also likely that there is a deeper issue. Even after the vaccination database links have all been found there will almost certainly be some cases apportioned to the unvaccinated group where the individual concerned was actually vaccinated (i.e., it simply wasn’t possible to link his or her status to the vaccination database). The magnitude of this effect is completely unknown (as they don’t offer the data), but in the U.K. the ‘uncertain status’ cases made up about 5% of all cases and I’m sure New York City would be similar.

It goes without saying that cases where an individual became infected within 14 days of becoming fully vaccinated will almost certainly also be counted as unvaccinated.

There’s yet another complication with this new assumption about what constitutes ‘unvaccinated’ – the NYC data includes both cases and the case rate per 100,000, so we can calculate the numbers that they think are in the unvaccinated, fully vaccinated and boosted groups.  If we do this and add them all together we get a number that is consistently about 7,000,000. This is far short of the approximately 7,800,000 that the city authorities claim live in the city and are aged over five. However, the city’s own data on the percentage partially vaccinated suggest that these number approximately 700,000-750,000 – suspiciously close to our shortfall. This suggests to me that the team counting the cases simply don’t speak with the team computing the case rates…

All this talk of unclear vaccination status highlights another problem with these data – just what has happened to the partially vaccinated?

The Unstated Assumption II

The particular data set we’re working with only reports cases and case rates in the unvaccinated, the ‘fully vaccinated’ and the boosted, but not the partially vaccinated. This in itself is fine, even if it would be better to have been given all the data.  

A quick note on definitions – ‘fully vaccinated’ in the U.K. is easy to define, as it is those having taken two doses of vaccine (possibly after seven or 14 days). In the U.S. this means those that have completed their vaccine course, which means two doses for some vaccines, but only one dose for others. Thus in the USA there is a group called ‘partially vaccinated’ which is made up of those that have received only one dose of a vaccine that requires two doses to be fully vaccinated.

However, the data remain troublesome. The first publication of the data appears to have some cases declared as ‘unvaccinated’ which are then moved into the fully vaccinated or boosted groups. But surely there will also be among the cases of ‘unknown status’ (but counted as unvaccinated) some who are partially vaccinated. The result of this is that we should see the cases that become identified as being in the partially vaccinated being removed from the data set, as the data set does not include a category for partially vaccinated. This means the first week’s update should see a reduction in total cases. Instead, we see that the data actually show a slight rise. What is going on here?

What we really need is another set of data giving total case numbers – that way we can remove the total given in our original data set (unvaccinated, fully vaccinated and boosted) to get data for those that are only partially vaccinated. This is made complicated by the fact that the data we’ve been working with are only for those aged over five years of age; most of the available data sets available to us are for the whole population. Fortunately, the NYC data page does offer case rates by age. As we know that the population they’re working with is approximately 8,337,000 and that approximately 6.3% of the population of New York City is under five, we can calculate the total number of cases in the over five population from those data and compare with our data set to obtain infection numbers in the partially vaccinated.

Well, that’s another huge surprise. Even though our data set purports not to include cases in the partially vaccinated, there’s just nowhere else for them to be – our estimates of total cases are very nearly equal to another data set that does include cases in the partially vaccinated. A quick check with the NYC data on total vaccinations given suggests that around 750,000 people are partially vaccinated – thus cases in this group should be large enough to be obvious in the graph above.

And so we return to the definition of ‘unvaccinated’ in our data set. It very much looks like a case in the ‘unvaccinated’ is actually defined as: Any case where we can’t prove that the person was either fully vaccinated or boosted. Or perhaps: Cases in those that are unvaccinated, partially vaccinated and where we just don’t know their vaccination status

The denominator

That last definition of ‘unvaccinated’ brings us to another problem – exactly how many people are going to be in this group? The New York health authorities will have a fairly good idea of how many people in the city have been vaccinated, and we know that they assume that there are around 8,337,000 people in the city when doing their rates calculations – but how many people are actually in the city. The latest U.S. census estimates that there were approximately 8,804,000 people living in the city in 2020 – really we need to use this number when calculating the unvaccinated population in New York city (it will probably be higher than this now, but the 2020 census estimate will be close enough).

In terms of our calculation of case rates for NYC by vaccination status, our original data set’s estimates of case rates in the fully vaccinated and boosted is probably accurate enough (apart from the most recent week’s data), but case rates in the unvaccinated should really be called the ‘not fully vaccinated or boosted’ and the denominator should be the total population aged five and over that aren’t fully vaccinated or boosted.

The result

We’ve gone a long way on this journey – we’ve seen evidence in NYC’s official Covid data that suggests that:

  • The most recent week’s data are unreliable, significantly overstating cases in the unvaccinated and understating cases in the vaccinated.
  • Just one week after the original data release they update the data – this moves a substantial number of cases from the unvaccinated group to the vaccinated group.
  • Cases are probably defined as ‘unvaccinated’ unless proven to be in the fully vaccinated or boosted.
  • That means ‘unvaccinated’ includes the partially vaccinated.
  • And it almost certainly also includes cases that can’t be linked to the vaccination database, whether this be because forms weren’t filled in correctly, people vaccinated out of state or people vaccinated without paperwork (such as the homeless or undocumented migrants).
  • And it almost certainly includes people within 14 days of becoming fully vaccinated.
  • Finally, for Covid purposes the city assumes its population is about 8,300,000, even though everyone else, including the U.S. census, thinks that the population is about 500,000 higher.

Let’s update our original graph of case rates by vaccination status with all the information we’ve gained along the way.

What a difference a little investigation makes – it isn’t that we’ve managed to add a small correction to their data, but that we’ve found evidence to support the actual rate in the ‘unvaccinated’ being substantially different to the official estimated case rate, even dipping below the case rate in the boosted in recent weeks. Note that we’ve not estimated the case rate in the unvaccinated, but in a strange group called ‘everyone not fully vaccinated or boosted’, which also includes every case where they couldn’t link the individual to their vaccination database – our estimate of case rates is almost certainly higher than would be found simply in the unvaccinated and partially vaccinated alone.

And so we can return to where we started our data-journey – Bill de Blasio’s generous offer to give $100 from the taxpayers of New York City to each person being boosted. You can take what you want from our travels, but perhaps you might agree with me that the data used by the city authorities to support their Covid strategy are nowhere near as robust as they believe, and that the $100 strategy is likely to make things worse.

I’ll finish with a question – how come any data analysis that shows the vaccines to be performing badly, making things worse or simply not necessary at all are ignored by the popular press, while no-one questions official data even when they’re full of holes?

Amanuensis is an ex-academic and senior Government scientist. He blogs at Bartram’s Folly.

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Grahamb
3 years ago

Re the last question, editorial policy from proprietor and allocation of advertising spend from the relevant authorities are significant factors.

Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago

Assumptions after assumptions , estimates, and guesswork.

“Known unknowns, and unknown unknowns.”

And all based on an easily manipulated test that is really not a diagnostic tool.

The only clear takeaway from this drivel is that bribery is alive and well in NYC.

watersider
3 years ago

Well the bribery is more infections than any CIA/Chinese Flu – it is a modern Plandemic.

RTSC
RTSC
3 years ago

Lies, damned lies and statistics. Thank you for your detailed work Mr Amanuensis.

Annie
3 years ago

They have to lie about the snake oil, because if it is useless, the entire global covid totalitarian strategy collapses instanter.

stewart
3 years ago

Well, this more accurate analysis is consistent with my personal experience.

Almost everyone I know who has been jabbed has been sick several times. Almost everyone I know who hasn’t been jabbed hasn’t been sick or has been sick at most once.

For a fist full of roubles
Reply to  stewart

I second that. I would add that all the unjabbed I know have been entirely healthy for the last 2 plus years.

Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago

I’ve had nothing worse than a runny nose and sneezing: not even a sore throat.

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Can also confirm this anecdotal observation. Mine fall in to two categories:

  1. Jabbed colleagues, most of them under 40, have all had several bouts of Covid (or at least colds and testing positive etc.)
  2. Some family members have had consistent health issues since their booster e.g. shingles, prone to colds and a few cases of pneumonia

Not conclusive by any means, but suspicious when it is people normally in rude health.

I am unjabbed and have had nothing, not even a runny nose. I’m fairly religious about Vitamin D, K, C and magnesium and zinc. No idea if it is doing anything but I feel healthy.

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Yes – your last paragraph perfectly describes my own experience.

JXB
JXB
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

My experience and in the various comments I read on blogs, a common experience.

What still puzzles me, is why people who have had three jabs, still had CoVid and know other triple jabbed souls who have then had CoVid, want a fourth jab.

Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  JXB

I think two or more jabs addle the brain. The people I know who’ve been really quite ill after their fourth say ”Ah, but I would have been SO much worse if I hadn’t had the jab…..”

sigh

Suzyv
Suzyv
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I second this too. Nearly everyone I mix with incl family are unjabbed and either they haven’t been ill or they have had a cold or flu for a couple of weeks max, got over and now are fine. And they haven’t had repeated illness because they now have natural immunity. Many Scientists and Drs say that the jabbed now have Vaids; their immune systems are breaking down and they will continue to get weaker and sicker as time goes on. This isn’t far fetched; it’s actually happening before our very eyes with quite a few people.

Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  Suzyv

Especially the elderly. Just as planned then?

Betty W
Betty W
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Lost count of the number of triple jabbed friends and acquaintances who have subsequently ‘tested positive’ for covid recently (in some cases, several times). I always say to them ‘Oh! But aren’t you triple jabbed?!’ They agree but either huffily claim that it would have been SO much worse if they weren’t jabbed, or simply change the subject. I confess it is my only source of amusement these days…I enjoy answering in the negative too when asked if I (fully unvaccinated) have had covid or been ill recently!

Gefion
Gefion
3 years ago
Reply to  Betty W

Me too, Betty.There are a lot of people who also seem to have a permanent cough and mild cold symptoms but, as you know, that’s not related to Covid vaccines either.

Betty W
Betty W
3 years ago
Reply to  Gefion

On a more serious note, like many other people here have commented, I’m also seeing high numbers of cancers, blood clots and other conditions (shingles was mentioned) in people who were hitherto fit and well. That’s far less amusing….😔

Gefion
Gefion
3 years ago
Reply to  Betty W

Yes, I only recently discovered that shingles seems to be about as well as blood clots. Sadly, no connections are made with vaccines. People, if they do think about it, seem to accept that side effects are unavoidable.

Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  Gefion

As well as falls, even among younger, fitter people.

Gefion
Gefion
3 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

I hadn’t heard of that. Interestingly my husband collapsed, has dizzy spells and has been found to require a stent. He was double vaxxed but maintains he had symptoms before Covid and lockdowns.

chris-ds
chris-ds
3 years ago

It’s likely the body is busy defending itself against the muck in the jab and suddenly finds it can’t fend off the real virus until it’s dealt with the imposter so those jabbed get sick, while everyone else is ok.

id also suggest that those jabbed a while ago, their immune system wastes time fighting new cv infection with the wrong antibodies until it recalculates and formulates the correct ones leading the jabbed to be worse off.

twinkytwonk
3 years ago
Reply to  chris-ds

There was a paper a few months back that showed that antigenic sin is fact. Basically, our immune systems will release antibodies specific to that of the vaccine/ or previous coronavirus infection rather than adapt to the new mutated virus. It’s like having the key for a honda jazz and then wondering why it fits in the lock of your honda civic but doesn’t start it .

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

I imagine it as a border force trained to shoot invaders who speak German. It seems to work when the Hun amasses at Dover. We mow them down, huge steins of beer all round.

It seems even more amazing when your border force start shooting Austrians and Swiss tourists 🤠 How effective!

But when the French and Spanish show up they waltz right in, the swines 🧐

Your natural immune system, properly trained, learns to just shoot all foreigners. As it should be 😜

Free Lemming
3 years ago

Thanks again Amanuensis – more exposure of the manipulation of Covid data. I’ve no doubt whatsoever, based upon the UKHSA data, pretty clear anecdotal evidence and a healthy dose of common sense, that the vaxxed are getting infected at far higher rates than the unvaxxed. Why is that an ‘expert’ would ask, ‘nature’ I would reply.

By the way, you know the answer to your last question! 🙂

TheGreenAcres
3 years ago

QQ:
When a vaccinated person in the UK dies, are they removed from the vaccinated population count? Now more than 12 months after the rollout i’m sure that younger persons move up and become eligible for their dose will start adding to the total but where is it stated that deceased are removed from the count?

This is another potential data trap that could artificially increase the proportion of vaccinated and simultaneously lower the estimated proportion of the unvaccinated- a sleight of hand we know favours vaccine effectiveness. Unless of course it is possible to test positive in the afterlife!

Freecumbria
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

In terms of UKHSA data then the numbers vaccinated are based on the alive population at any point in time, who (roughly speaking) are registered with a doctor. From week to week overall numbers in the English vaccination database (NIMS) that UKHSA uses decreases as people die. And numbers increase as (net new) people newly register with a doctor. This can be people coming from overseas who register with a doctor or people already living here who haven’t previously been registered with a doctor but then decide to do so By vaccination status you have the same increases/decreases due to deaths/registrations as well as transfer between categories as people get experimentally vaccinated. For example in the over 80s age group, new registrations are very small relative to deaths and so the numbers fall week on week very closely in line with over 80s deaths. Note UKHSA were using age at October 2021 from week 42 (was age at April 2021 before week 42) but have changed this latest week (week 14 data in the week 15 report) to age at date the data is downloaded. So going forward numbers will increase in the over 80s group also because of those… Read more »

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Freecumbria
3 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

And here is a chart of NIMS weekly population number movements by age groups above 25 (not split by vaccination status). Again I’ve left out week 42 (and week 41 where there was no data) because of the age definition change (where there was a one off switch between age groups)

You can see how NIMS numbers fall week on week in the over 80s age group because of deaths (with new registrations being minimal). Whereas in younger age groups new doctor registrations outstrip deaths by some margin, and with

New doctor registrations are relatively higher in the youngest age groups as we would expect, hence the quite consistent week on week higher increases in younger age groups.

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TheGreenAcres
3 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Thank you for the detailed explanation. So they have moved from updating the age groupings in 6 month chunks to a more or less weekly update (with a bit of lag).

Freecumbria
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

Yes that’s right.

In week 15’s (that’s last Thursday’s not today’s) national influenza and covid-19 surveillance report on page 78 they say

Please note that age is calculated on the date data is extracted. The following weekly vaccine coverage data is extracted on a Tuesday with data capped to the previous Sunday. While this change will have an initial impact on vaccine uptake data by age, it is a positive change ensuring more accuracy and consistency in the data moving forwards.

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

Talking to people in the street , talking to Funeral Directors and florists and comparing notes with friends seem to be more reliable ‘data sources’ than anything from HMG!

For a fist full of roubles

Listening to the interview by Dan Wootton (GBNews) with Matt Handcock last night confirmed that the man has learned nothing from his experience and is convinced that his actions have save tens of thousands of lives.

Rogerborg
3 years ago

There’s a fairly amusing Twatter account, @HackMancockMP, that works so well because its arrogant, sneering contempt for us maggots is within the margins of error for the real thing.

For a fist full of roubles
Reply to  Rogerborg

The contempt was clear from his interview

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

I could not bring myself to listen to the odious little man who personifies the nightmare imposed on the whole population by the Globalist Elitists with their dystopian schemes he so willingly serves.

The level of self-serving dishonesty from this Parliament and the total betrayal of the trusting electorate is beyond anything we have ever seen.

They are even now plotting to continue wrecking our lives as we write!

Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago

Is he ”convinced”, though? Or just still cynically trying to convince us peasants?

Rogerborg
3 years ago

Language has been flooblemorped by the Chinese virus.

“Vaccine” means no such thing if it allows infection and transmission.

“Fully vaccinated” means no such thing, if there’s a “booster”.

“Booster” means no such thing if it results in more infection.

Completely and utterly flooblemorped.

Since we’re just making up nonsense-words now.

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

A career in the Behavioural Insights Team beckons 🤠

For a fist full of roubles
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Professional flooblemorphery.

JXB
JXB
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Correctly it should be ‘immunised’, then this obviates ‘fully’, either you are or you are not. Vaccination is the process by which immunisation is achieved – ie, immune from a specific disease, using a vaccine or inoculum. ‘Fully’ vaccinated has no unique meaning.

If vaccination involves two doses at intervals, as some do, to achieve immunisation, then you are not immunised until after the second dose.

Some vaccines need booster doses to maintain immunisation, but these normally vary from after 3 to 10 years. If you need a ‘booster’ after a couple of months, it’s not a vaccine, it’s a superstition and you are not nor ever will be immunised.

Mr Taxpayer
Mr Taxpayer
3 years ago
Reply to  JXB

As a mechanical engineer for 38 years, a fix that needs to be constantly repeated isn’t a very good fix.

ChristineJ58
ChristineJ58
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

‘Flooblemorped’!!! Sounds like a word that should have been on the ‘Call my Bluff’ TV game show, many decades ago!!!

MikeHaseler
3 years ago

Lies, damned lies, and official covid “statistics”.

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeHaseler

Lies?

Now simply everything we see and hear from Government and the BBC.

Freecumbria
3 years ago

Very interesting analysis, Amanuensis . Thanks.

John Dee
3 years ago

perhaps you’ll gain a healthy scepticism of statistical data presented by experts

For some reason that continues to elude me, that seems to have happened to me over two years ago. Of course, that depends on how one defines ‘experts’.

David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

Never mind New York- what about here in the UK?

Concealing the vaccine’s ineffectiveness for what is claimed to be its prime purpose and ignoring the mounting ( if suppressed) evidence of its damage to millions of lives and the rising death toll seems to be the principal strategy of the Government and all its Agencies .

Meanwhile, Johnson Javid and Whitty just keep jabbing it into our children regardless and MHRA sees ‘no problem’ with the magnificent vaccine success story!

Three more stories of vaccine induced injury and death recounted to me already by friends this morning.

You would think by now people would have stopped believing any stats or statements on the subject pushed out by Government Ministers and their propaganda machine – seemingly not.

If only Chistopher Chope were PM we would be living in a different more honest land!

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

I think that is what Stockholm Syndrome is though. When you remain uninfected, so to speak, it is difficult to understand what you are witnessing.

I have several family members who seem literally mesmerized by the whole show. I am not, for whatever reason.

Lockdowns and masks seemed absurd to me, but somewhat plausible for a while. But it was apparent immediately that the injections were at best rushed concoctions designed to reduce symptoms. This was clearly communicated even by Pfizer.

Even this could be plausible if presented as a treatment, which triggers a basic cost/benefit analysis based on the risk you believe you are facing. I can count on one hand the number of people in my own world who did any of that. It wasn’t so much zero thought as a kind of anti-thought.

crisisgarden
3 years ago

Goodness. Another great analysis Amanuensis, thank you. The desperation to hide the many failures of these products is palpable. Lucky for them that everyone is distracted by war.

Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

😜

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jsampson1945
jsampson1945
3 years ago

Are the infections happening after, between or before the jabs?

amanuensis
3 years ago
Reply to  jsampson1945

The vast majority of first jabs occurred last summer, so ‘after’.

The data suggests that following each specific jab is a period of about 2-3 weeks where there’s an increased susceptibility to infection. I’m not sure that this period is relevant for the current infectious wave (but might have been in the January wave in the USA).

After that short period, there appears to be a period of about 60-90 days or so (and reducing in duration with each successive jab) where there is some reasonable level of protection from infection. I suspect that the current wave is occurring after this period (in the majority), given the timing of this last winter’s booster campaign.

JXB
JXB
3 years ago
Reply to  jsampson1945

In the UK there was an upsurge in infections immediately after the ‘booster’ in the boosted during the Omicron run. But it seems that vaccinated people have a higher rate of infections, hospitalisation, mortality – triple more so than twice, twice more so than once and all more so than unvaccinated. Since this is rate, it cannot be explained by loss of effectiveness of the vaccine, because there is no reason why unvaccinated rate would be less than vaccinated, and logically you would expect the more recently vaccinated to have a lower rate than those vaccinated earlier. The single, double and triple are spread over a year or more, with triple likely to be most recent. it points to vaccination making people more susceptible to the virus as it mutates, and the susceptibility increases with number of doses received. This is why vaccines are contraindicated for fast mutating viruses because individuals will select for a mutation that is not affected by the vaccine-induced immune response. This then results in one or more circulating ‘resultant’ viral mutations against which a majority vaccinated population will have sluggish immune response as their immune system is preoccupied making antibodies against the viral version it… Read more »

dearieme
dearieme
3 years ago

I notice that some vaccine enthusiasts have given up claiming that the vaccines reduce case numbers and instead claim that vaccination reduces hospitalisation and death. But does it? Where should I look for an equally adroit analysis of deaths?

amanuensis
3 years ago
Reply to  dearieme

We try to cover hospitalisations and deaths where possible.

But there are many complications when dealing with hospitalisations and deaths. The big two are that there appears to be a complication caused by not vaccinating those closest to death (this is a known bias that researchers usually try to compensate for, but there’s no attempts to do so with the covid vaccines) and also because simply looking at covid deaths in younger age groups (which are very low) doesn’t account for vaccine injuries/deaths.

JXB
JXB
3 years ago
Reply to  dearieme

I doubt it would even be possible to determine the veracity of that claim. It’s just PR work, and unfalsifiable – and anything unfalsifiable cannot be proved.

Such is the wonder of The Science of CoVid.

JXB
JXB
3 years ago

In summary: being unvaccinated is no significantly greater risk to being infected, hospitalised, dead than being vaccinated but without the concomitant risk of vaccine injury or death.

‘… how come any data analysis that shows the vaccines to be performing badly, making things worse or simply not necessary at all are ignored…’

££££££££££££££££££££££££. Follow the money.

Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago

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marebobowl
marebobowl
3 years ago

What we have all witnessed over the past three months here in the UK is very clear. The triple jabbed got covid and many are worse off than they were pre triple vaxxed! In other words, the experimental biologicals are not only ineffective, but have also caused severe adverse events and deaths. Anyone else know people post vaxx who have had strokes, heart attacks, blood clots, sepsis, shingles, blindness, vertigo, severe joint and muscle pain, lung infections, RSV, atrial fib, racing hearts, unsteadiness, mental decline, onset of dementia?

Grumman
Grumman
3 years ago

A normal vaccine uses a dead or sterilised actual virus to provide immunity. A new style mRNA vaccine is only based on a particular spike protein arrangement. As the virus mutates then this spike protein arrangement changes. Switch a normal vaccine you get immunity as per a standard bell curve spread, but with mRNA style vaccine it is very specific. The immune system for the jabbed does not recognise mutations, hence every variation they are susceptible to, hence the re infections. Not many have been jabbed outside of the western world but most of these unjabbed are protected by natural immunity after catching it, as Fauci said, best vaccine is infection. The statistics, as Dr Malcolm Kendrick said over a year ago at least, are so mangled that real truth can never be uncovered. That was the point. These vaccines are not the saviour they are made out to be, they are the sales mechanism which the pandemic was created for in the first place. It’s about time people admitted what they know to be true.