GB News Presenter Calvin Robinson Told he Cannot be Ordained in Church of England Due to His Orthodox Christian Views
GB NEWS presenter Calvin Robinson has accused Bishops in the Church of England of trying to block his ordination to the priesthood because of his conservative views. The Sunday Express has more.
But senior clergy in London including the Bishop of London Sarah Mullally have taken exception to his criticism of woke culture and other conservative comments on social media and blocked the original plan.
Mr. Robinson, a former teacher and well-known right of centre political commentator has been training for ordination at St Stephen’s College in Oxford and was supposed to begin a curacy in Holborn later this year
Mr. Robinson has told the Sunday Express that he has consulted a barrister about possibly taking the Church of England to court over the issue arguing that he and others are facing prejudice for “having orthodox conservative opinions.”
He said: “The problem is that there is a disconnect between the Church of England hierarchy who are increasingly woke Guardian readers, and the congregations who are mostly Daily Express and Daily Mail reading conservatives.
“I am much closer to the grassroots, I tend to read the Express and the Mail and I am willing to stand up for those orthodox Christian opinions against things like trying to allow gay weddings, rebaptisms for trans people and the like.”
The original plan was for Mr Robinson to be a part time curate and continue his media work on GB News and elsewhere.
He said: “I felt that the media work was part of my calling and future ministry so the two were not separable.”
However, at a Zoom meeting on February 25, the Bishop of Fulham Jonathan Baker who was his sponsor told him that he “needed to make a choice” and warned that it would be too difficult to do both because of complaints which were being made about him.
A few hours later the Bishop of Fulham emailed the Bishop of London to say that Mr Robinson’s curacy in Holborn had been cancelled.
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: Justin Welby, the Archbishop of Canterbury, has described the Government’s plan to relocate undocumented migrants to Rwanda as “ungodly”. So the Anglican church stopping a black man from becoming a priest because of his conservative views is perfectly acceptable, but a policy designed to stop people smuggling is “ungodly”?
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Blessed are you when men speak all kinds of evil about you.
He shouldn’t be surprised. The CoE has now gone fully apostate (with a few noble exceptions). There are many other open doors for willing servants.
Take it as a badge of honour.
Next they’ll be banning the Bible. I mean, have you read some of the stuff in there? Imagine if Jesus overturned the moneychangers tables in the Temple today and threw them out by the scruff of their necks. They’d be on Twitter straight away accusing him of not believing in Climate Change, racism and misgendering.
Yeah, all that stuff about honesty, adultery, charity and so on doesn’t really sit well with our current ruling classes.
“Somebody mention adultery?” asks Professor Neil Ferguson.
Adultery? That is only an example of a middle-aged bloke having a fling, according to the Bishop of Manchester, commenting on Matt Hancock’s adultery. In other words, a solemn vow made in a place of worship before invited witnesses and God himself is of LESS value than the arbitrary diktats of a corrupt, evil and satanic government.
The Bishop of Manchester is so clueless!
How is he on the other nine commandments? “Well, ya know, murdering people happens – don’t make such a big thing out of it.”
It’s hard to take any “Christians” seriously who don’t actually oppose usury rather than simply saying (if a journalist asks them for a comment) that payday loans at a zillion percent interest are a tad excessive. Usury is lending money at interest, for those who didn’t already know – the word doesn’t only cover doing it when the interest rate is “big”, or doing it on Tuesdays.
Similarly adultery is when a married person has sex with someone who isn’t their spouse – the word doesn’t just cover when they do it swinging from the chandeliers, or in some way that a stupid old bishop believes constitutes more than a “fling”.
”Only me”, said Mr Halfcock.
Agreed. Have you read Kings II? Poor old Ahab had upset the Almighty in one way or another, and the all-loving, all-forgiving God said, and I quote, “I shall cut of from Ahab him that pi sseth against the wall”. Mind you, He could be a bit nasty if He’d been on the turps of a lunchtime.
“Poor old Ahab”? Do you think Ahab was some kind of innocent, harmless old duffer?
Faced with the possible removal of the honourable member I would say so, yes.
So knowing that Ahab took what was not his (Naboth’s vineyard) from the murdered Naboth and his murdered sons, you would find him innocent? We live in strange times.
Chopping his nob off for grape theft seems a little exteme.
Neither you nor ‘No-one important’ seem to understand the idiomatic phrase in 1 Kings 21:21:
“Behold, I will bring evil upon thee, and will take away thy posterity, and will cut off from Ahab him that pisseth against the wall, and him that is shut up and left in Israel,….”.
though it ought to be obvious. It doesn’t refer to his penis, rather it refers to his male ( i.e. people who can and do urinate standing up against a wall) descendants. And among Ahab’s many crimes was the murder of Nabob and his sons, murdered so that Ahab could take possession of Nabob’s vineyard.
It was just an slightly more extensive circumcision.
I despair at your complete lack of understanding of a straightforward Biblical text. No wonder Boris and co have found it so easy to fool the majority of the population of the UK.
I seem to recall that in the diocese of Salisbury there was fracas about a vicar who could not wear a face-nappy due to asthma. One aspect of this story (the Archdeacon received a hostile reception on visiting the church) particularly struck me at the time: someone had quarantined the Bibles. What were they afraid of? The dreadful infection of truth?
quarantined the Bibles.
PMSL😀
Whats Christianity got to do with the CoE?
Shouldn’t that be the other way around? What’s the CoE got to do with Christianity any more? It’s taken up a new religion, ie Woke.
This incident only highlights a common phenomenon we rarely discuss, the way in which our traditional institutions have been skillfully hollowed out to provide the appearance of endorsement to ideas that do not emerge naturally. Homosexuality is a key example. It is clearly incompatible with the teachings of most orthodox religions. What better way to promote acceptance then than using an established religion to promote it. For those not paying attention it provides a useful background hum that remains unexamined, and subtly encourages the notion that the world has changed, after all if the clergy have reexamined their prejudices then so should I. We’ve seen this everywhere; the Royal Society abandoning scientific methodology to endorse the “settled science” of climate change; great universities “reluctantly” limiting free enquiry and free speech to avoid perceived harm; supposedly impartial news agencies endorsing a specific narrative for the common good. All of these entities present themselves in their original guise, as natural emergent champions of some elevated place in society, while in the background push a narrow agenda. They use the institution as a disguise. The CoE is just one of many. Hijacked by a determined minority keen to exploit the legitimacy they convey… Read more »
“Homosexuality is a key example. It is clearly incompatible with the teachings of most orthodox religions.”
The reason is very simple. Male seed was for a long time believed to carry the new life that sprang from a women, once that see was implanted there. No concept of ovaries of eggs, unsurprisingly; so as a member of an imperilled tribe, such as the Israelites, the idea of shooting your seed up another man’s bum or onto the ground was seen as throwing away a life the tribe needed.
That was just the official/public explanation for the rule, ( for justifying it to women aswell as to men ), whereas men clearly have/had no problem producing lots of the stuff. The real reason was that anal sex risked destablising/disintegrating the carefully controlled and maintained sexual identities/roles of men and women, and the social peace that depended on being able to divide the women ( necessarily passive, like land, not active in their own right ) up between the men ( so that they all had a woman, not just for maximum tribal fertility ). Men were not to be “ploughed” like women or land. They always had to be the active ( and seed-producing ) partner.
Also the closing down of mass manufacturing, coal mines, quarries etc where homosexuality was seen as a weakness, opened up the way for gay rights.
Anal sex results in a greater transmission of STDs than vaginal sex (Tian LH, Peterman TA, Tao G, et al. Heterosexual anal sex activity in the year after an STD clinic visit. Sex Transm Dis. 2008;35(11):905–909 ). In pre-penicillin times in particular, this posed a serious threat to the health and wellbeing of communities; the prohibition was logical, preventative medicine.
I don’t think I’ll read that reference – I’ve just eaten dinner – but it is a fact that penises and vaginas work together well chemically. Semen is alkaline (largely because of stuff made in the prostate gland), vaginas are acid, and hey presto, a nice neutral environment is created for sperm to make their way towards the egg. As for anuses, they are exit holes for waste matter that every human culture gets rid of fast.
Didn’t seem to bother the Ancient Greeks.
Aiming one’s sexual attentions only on members of the same sex as oneself (i.e. being gay) is evolutionarily non-adaptive.
And, if promulgated as the only way to go, would lead to the extinction of the human race.
The Catholic Church and the corrupt Pope are up to their necks in the Reset as the only legitimate Catholic, Archbishop Vigano has made clear.
Yup the Archbishop complained about the shipments of migrants to Rwanda, yet no mention of experimental jabs and the lockdown of churches for a virus with less than 1% death rate.
0.095% IFR, isn’t it?
It’s not new. My old pastor was ordained in the Australian Anglican church, but impeded in the C of E over here because of his Evangelical views. Their loss, our gain (as an independent congregation). Our church grew, and he eventually moved on to teach in a ministerial training college abroad, where the faith is growing.
Meanwhile, the C of E has shrunken away.
Calvin is one who gets his message across hope he achieves his calling. The CoE have let so many down recently.
Just start your own Church of England.
I hope Mr Robinson does follow through on the lawsuit, as the time for debate is clearly over.
And given Welby’s political activism, isn’t it long past time that the tax-exempt status of his property management business is reconsidered?
I’d prefer the other way around. Throw out the oddballs who are free to found their own Rainbow Church of the Blessed Gay Jesus. See how well they fare.
Needs a bloody haircut for a start
So, gay bishops, trannies and the study of “queer faith” are all fine, but personal grooming is the real sin. Got it. With observations like this what are we worried about? 🥸
God loves all his people. They just need to get their hair cut properly
No doubt, but if the Big Man is paying that much attention I’m sure he’ll tackle the anal sex before the haircuts 😇
haha! You can’t beat a bit of buggery
To each their own 😜
Who are God’s people?
From the way they act much of the cabinet and the senior civil service 🤓
Given these establishment types’ unwavering belief in their own actions and infallibility, and given their inability to consider let one admit that they might be wrong, you’re thinking God complex, not God’s people 🙂
I think they work for the other side!
You mean the shoulder length hippy style that my pictorial bible showed Jesus wearing?
I like his hair, reminds me of my youth, when most students with that type of barnet sported massive afro styles. Contrasts with the current fad for straightening it, a la Markle.
Amazing the number of Africans and mixed race people keen to look European and accusing us of looking down on other races. I’ve often found that an odd mix. Do as I say not as I do.
One of the links I clicked on this site or maybe conwom a few days back showed a Russian pop group with a bunch of lasses singing an anthem. Their faces were, well, normal. Normal eye brows, normal makeup, normal attractive hair style, normal size lips. These ladies were truly beautiful, with natural faces, and of a slim normal build. I was struck by the contrast with the grotesque appearance of many western girls/ women nowadays, with absurdly inflated lips, ridiculous makeup with sharpie eyebrows, overly tight clothes on tattooed overweight bodies and surgically enhanced boobs. It’s tragic.
Women are herd thinkers; big lips and tattoos are in, modesty is out. The next world war will sort all that out.
I quizzed a 20 something nephew on these matters. His view, and that of his mates, is that women look utterly shite like this.
That would have been my assumption. Men don’t like women plastered with makeup.
It would appear that the women are embracing the Barbie doll look to impress each other rather than men. It might look ok on camera, but looks gross in real life. Social media has a lot to answer for.
Well, they are allowed a bit (a lot) of cultural appropriation. We’re not though, obviously.
Or a ‘man bun’.
I’ve got two nice man buns 😉
Why does Calvin want to join a clearly apostate church that encourages sin and dances to the tune of humanist fashion and has replaced the doctrines of God with the doctrines of Satan.
Good point.
Because it has been usurped, and he has the courage to challenge it. In addition, as he noted in the piece above, it is him who is more in tune with the congregations than the leadership.
That is a common feature of modern life, from politics to media, those in charge are quite different from the rest. The CoE battle he is attempting is a microcosm of our whole country.
‘Justin Welby, the Archbishop of Canterbury, has described the Government’s plan to relocate undocumented migrants to Rwanda as “ungodly”‘
So he is claiming that the plan is immoral? Can anyone explain to me how it is immoral? These people have paid thousands of pounds, travelled thousands of miles and risked their lives crossing the channel to get to the UK, with some losing their lives on the way. To my mind anything that helps stop the vile trade of people smuggling is morally justified. Rwanda is nice this time of year.😷✊👍
I prefer the older, more established reason. A country without borders isn’t a country, just a geographical territory. Since this stuff is often pushed by those banging on about our colourful imperialist past, and the sins that it implies, I say it is one or the other. If borders don’t exist for them they don’t exist for us either. We could conquer India and the former African colonies in a few months. To this day they are dysfunctional to the point of absurdity.
A more sensible approach is to act upon our natural impulses; a hoard of third world peasants descending on us will add absolutely nothing of value. We must send them all home, including the ones born here. They are not us and they do not belong.
Allow me
https://www.roger-scruton.com/articles/276-the-need-for-nations
This article by the late, much lamented Conservative philosopher, Sir Roger Scruton, on why we need the nation state, is, IMHO, spot on.
Boils down to – who else will defend you once the nation is gone.
Get thee behind me, all transnational institutions, starting with the UN, WHO, WEF. Oh and the ****ing BBC…
Bookmarked, will read. Thanks for sharing.
Not sure what language it’s in – would need a transliteration….
I agree but flooding the country with third world immigrants is integral to the Reset.
Indeed. Destined to fail here, Even after a century none of them will be northern europeans, including their behaviour.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-do-we-celebrate-easter-in-the-shadow-of-war
The Church of England is a disgusting temple of sanctimonious wokery.
Well, Easter does relate to an event that took place during the Roman occupation of the Holy Land. That said, I fully agree re the C of E…
We need to purge these people from their positions of power.
We have inflation at the moment which would be cured by less government spending. Who is going to go through the government departments and ALB accounts and start asking what the point of them is?
Let’s start with the “diversity” jobs and go from there. Civil service jobs would be a starting place.
After that we need to go after the public funding for University jobs that serve no purpose. We should be funding STEM only at this point.
The more of these oxygen thieves we can get on the dole queue the lower inflation will be.
Go to it.
A simpler, faster approach is to remind people diversity is dangerous. We don’t want a diverse group of pilots flying our planes, we want all pilots to conform to a strict set of requirements i.e. good hand-eye coordination, nerves of steel etc. That is, we want a homogenous group with these traits.
From there we must recast the diversity brigade as strange obsessives. Why are they so focused on superficial differences? Why are they racist? Why are they not focusing on skill and aptitude? Come to think of it, is this kind of myopia itself dangerous?
Quite. Where’s Uncle Joe Stalin when you need a good purge? For frankly, that’s the sort of purge we need. Paraquat level…
Welby and the C of E generally seem to have abandoned even the slightest pretence of being interested in Christianity, as distinct from Sanctimony. Their behaviour, in shutting down all religious observance, apart from “online services” during the pandemic, was craven, ungodly and downright cruel in many instances. Welby himself is a disgrace to the Church and to his worldly country, which he seems to despise and abhor.
It would appear that the Catholic Church is, in many regards, as delinquent as the C of E, and the Holy Father is as ridiculous as the Archbishop. It is not surprising that evangelical Christianity and former dissenting branches are those that keep the religion alive, albeit moribund, in the UK.
Here’s a question, who invented Christianity? Aah could it be the self same clergy who now openly and judgmentally decide who joins this increasingly secret society? Oh wait that’s the Illuminati and the Jesuits….
Define invented.
If it’s so secret then how do you know so much about its machinations?
Genius. You should publish your findings.
My advice to Calvin Robinson is to leave the idiots to their “church”.
It’s obviously screwed, why anyone would want to join their “church” beats me.
It’s like lesbians and gays demanding to be “married” by a “church” that says they’re evil. Why bother?
I follow my own religion: me and those I love.
If we pursue this kind of thinking, and do not fight for things that matter, in twenty years you will be advocating that whites abandon the UK for other countries. Leave Britain for the “New British”; why anyone would want to live there is beyond me, it is obviously screwed etc.
Some things are worth fighting for.
Ideas are the most powerful things. They exist in the minds of man. They are not tied to territory. If “your country” abandons those ideas, then the ideas need a new home.
Like the protestants who fled Europe for the Americas etc. I sort of agree. But what do you do when there’s no more “spare” land or land that you can take control over?
Surround yourself with enough people who agree with you and are ready to take up arms to defend your ideas.
Have you seen how simple it is to declare a new country? Hint: it isn’t about filling in a form or any other bureaucracy, or asking for permission, or any of that.
And I say it is simple – not necessarily easy.
My country is not abandoning anything, it is being invaded. There is a difference. The overwhelming majority of citizens in most European countries want an end to mass immigration.
I take it we can’t count on your support when the civil war comes?
Most of my ‘fellow Brits’ (whatever that means) appear intent on destroying things from the inside, Vax.
“When we resist strangers, we risk strangers grown amongst us.”
100% with you Marcus.
C of E and RC teaching doesn’t describe gay people as evil; that’s a line that has been pushed by anti-Christian zealots. Gay sex is described as a sin, but heterosexual sex outside of marriage is likewise described.
Justin Welby – as splendid an example as one may wish of all that is wrong with the Church of England today.
The words of an old rugby song spring to mind:
Why was he born so beautiful,
Why was he born at all.
He’s no fcuking use to anyone,
He’s no fcuking use at all.
Other readers may also remember the second verse …
I wish I could 🤣🤣
How many black African migrants has Justin Welby taken into his own home?
My guess is none.
In the US, God apparently is a member of the NRA. In the UK, he’s a card-carrying member of Momentum.
This sort of thing has been going on here for decades – remember the Yes, prime minister episode about choosing a new bishop and them not believing in God? That was 1986 – 35+ years ago.
Even in the US there have started to be warnings (recently) of Churches (even Catholic ones) being infiltrated by woke left wing activists. They know that, like with the Civil Service and especially the teaching profession, religion is an easy, cheap way of indocrinating many people without most of the Right noticing or doing very much.
This sort of thing has been going on here for decades – remember the Yes, prime minister episode about choosing a new bishop and them not believing in God? That was 1986 – 35+ years ago.
I do indeed. And I’m struck by how many of the things ridiculed by Yes MInister, Yes Prime Minister and Monty Python have become either a new orthodoxy or so commonplace that we no longer bother to mock (well, we do here – but there are plenty who simply accept them).
Good comedians are wonderful observers of incipient trends. I think much of what we were laughing about remained incipient until 2001: when things suddenly got very serious indeed. When I joked about what I saw as absurdly excessive and manifestly stupid security measures at airports, I found that others weren’t laughing at all. We got frightened.
Except that people are deserting the C of E and the Catholic churches in droves.
When Eco Charlie gets the top job that should see off the C of E for good.
So they won’t let you join the reformed Church of Satan, not a bad thing.
Were it not for the Church of England, I would very likely be a member of said “Church of England”. Which seems to have been infiltrated by people I see as evil.
I am an atheist and a believer in freedom of speech. I have a particularly high opinion of Calvin and if he decides to take formal action against the hierachcy then I would be only to pleased to swell any fighting fund.
ATL, quote: So the Anglican church stopping a black man from becoming a priest because of his conservative views …
How about you just say: So the Anglican church stopping a man from becoming a priest because of his conservative views …
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Why would he want to be part of the C of E clergy? highly suspect.
Why did Toby join Labour?
Some people have the integrity to fight for what they believe is worth saving.
‘Justin Welby, the Archbishop of Canterbury, has described the Government’s plan to relocate undocumented migrants to Rwanda as “ungodly”. ‘
OK. So let’s make it godly and send them to Lambeth Palace and the Vatican – plenty of room there.
Aren’t both places full to bursting with refugee Ukes?
What’s wrong with Rwanda? Is he suggesting Rwanda is somehow worse or beneath th UK? That’s not very Christian. I would be pretty offended if I was Rwandan by the insinuation that my country was somehow “ungodly”.
That is what someone from there said on GB News last week to Mark Steyn. She really didn’t let go, it was fun watching mark’s face. Probably trying to work out, ‘how do I get out of this one’.
Did you put Calvin Robinson up to it, Toby?
His approach seems similar to yours when you paid three pounds to join the Labour party in the belief that if you voted for Jeremy Corbyn as leader you’d help the Tories.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/my-work-consigning-labour-to-electoral-oblivion-is-done
I suppose it had to happen: the C of E bans the ordination of someone whose views are as conservative as those expressed in the Bible.
Not so much a church, more an unconvincing comedy script…
Locking the faithful out of churches is not ungodly.
Licking the government’s arse is not ungodly.
Forcing people to delete their faces is not ungodly.
Treating children like toxic waste is not ungodly.
Bio-medical apartheid, backed by threats and coercion, is not ungodly.
Discouraging traffic in human flesh is ungodly.
The god of Dustbin Jellybaby. A horrid, shrivelled little idol, befitting his miserable acolyte.
He is a Globalist to the hilt.
The CoE and Christianity have clearly parted ways. I’m guessing that it’s not a mistake, but another means of destroying Christianity from within, just as the woke Pope is doing.
That’s why we need a new Church. Calvin Robinson is the kind of person that new Church will need. There are others.
As for Jellybaby, why doesn’t he go to Rwanda, in solidarity with the illegals, and make himself Arch-Primate of the Trans Chimpanzee Church of Wokeafrica?
“Church” is the wrong word.