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huxleypiggles
4 years ago

Here we go again.

Good morning all.

Nymeria
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Morning. Back on the magic roundabout 🙂

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

Hallo Zebedee. Reminds me of a film…

Won’t Putin be pleased id Marine wins?

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Hello piggles. Moff tu bed. Night.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Mornin’ mornin’ (not) Jameson ‘ere.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Good morning, hp, Nymeria and cg. Understand I’ve missed MAk.

Up late, following events in France ….

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Good morning to you!

Encierro
4 years ago

What happened about the UK based companies like ikea and wessex Water imposing vaxx on the workers?
Was it dropped or has it been quietly carrying on?
What about a list of companies and organisations who are still wanting employees vaxxed (maybe even boosted)

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

Someone who used to work on Corrie was on GB News tonight, explaining that he is being denied acting work over the “vaccine” issue.

Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Over the pseudo vaccine which patently doesn’t work? I mean, it’s not like you need the ability to critique a scientific paper. The data is everywhere! Well, everywhere that isn’t the MSM and associated news outlets. Even my double-jabbed husband was saying virtually all of his jabbed work colleagues ( inc himself ) have had Covid despite their “highly effective” injections onboard and also most of his sporting associates. Yet I wonder how many of these numpties, who’ve donated their brains to the alter of their cult will go on to get a booster..Like where is the rationale because all I see is delusion and stupidity. These are meant to be intelligent “knowledge workers” with PhDs, ironically!

Surely by now everybody knows someone that has either got Covid despite being jabbed or/and who has acquired an adverse event due to them, and yet firms are still pressurizing people to get a highly INeffective and UNsafe medical product?! People are blind, thick and sadistic/masochistic evidently!

My motto; value your health, don’t get jabbed!

loopDloop
loopDloop
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Great comment. I find the smarter people are, the stupider they are. Maybe someone could write a PhD on that sometime. How’s your marriage going?

Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

If we don’t mention Covid the Ukraine war, or anything remotely related, we’re OK. 😉 What I’m wondering is if anybody else has seen the correlation between people swallowing the bollocks that is the Official Narrative re Covid and those that subscribe to the ‘Putin evil Zalenskyy innocent victim”? Because, from what I can tell anyway, it’s exactly the same people. Naive, blinkered, virtuous, BBC-loving types basically. Critical thinking be damned eh?

pjar
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Anecdotally, I certainly have. It’s pretty clear to me that once you discover someone’s stance on Brexit, you can nail their position on pretty much everything else: Trump, Boris, Vaccines, Masks, BLM, Colston statue, Ukraine, Transrights… you get the idea.

I wonder if it’s a Twitter thing, or at lease exacerbated by it? And it’s disturbing on many fronts, but not least that they are so very confident that their position is right that they won’t remotely consider anything else.

It sounds as though your domestic situation is similar to mine, If matters in the public domain keep on polarising like they have been, it will only become harder I fear…

There’s a decent post doctorate thesis there for someone, I imagine, though they probably wouldn’t dare given the state of universities today!

Idris
Idris
4 years ago
Reply to  pjar

Common denominator, they don’t watch MSM.

pjar
4 years ago
Reply to  Idris

I’m not sure that’s the right way round? People who watch MSM in my experience aren’t terribly curious or critical about what they’ve been told?

Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  pjar

Yes I agree. People who look for sources of information that have no links to Big Pharma or Big Tech, and are completely independent, whilst not going town the rabbit hole too far to Nutty Town, are better informed due to the unbiased, unedited information they are exposed to. There is no way on this earth somebody who is a regular BBC watcher and Guardian reader, for instance, can ever profess to be fully informed as impartiality is not exactly the name of the game with these organizations.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I think that once you are more widely informed, you find the propaganda channels and journals both more irritating and boring.

I used to respect the ABC (Oz equivalent of the BBC) until March 2020, when I discovered that the public broadcaster had turned into the state broadcaster: far more obviously than over any other issue.

Now I don’t bother watching it at all. Regularly watching or reading propaganda is either bad for your blood pressure or turns your brain into mash.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Not just “irritating” – very dangerous!

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Where does “Nutty Town” start and Common Sense Ville and truth end …there seems to be a saturating quagmire of genuine uncertainty between them.

So many things thought impossible in a democracy have happened over two years, all bets are off on where this manufactured chaos ends.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  pjar

that’d be my take.

DS99
4 years ago
Reply to  Idris

I’m always appalled and shocked whenever I do watch any mainstream news (like in the dentist waiting room) …. no wonder all my friends and neighbours think as they do.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Idris

No-one should.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  pjar

So on basis of the Brexit referendum that should be at least 52% of the population – so how come they claim the “vax” take up is so high?

“Government figures” again?

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I have someone in my family that fits that description to a T – total covidian and single-handedly organising red cross Ukrainian relief effort. Also had great words to say about the sainted Greta so you can add in climate change /net zero for good measure.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Yes… it’s virtually a 100% “fit”!

“Bollocks swallowing” can clearly be a life-threatening condition and ought to be avoided !

pjar
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

And, I’d bet that to a man and woman they will have followed up with ‘Ah, but it might have been so much worse without the vaccine…’?

For a fist full of roubles
Reply to  Hugh

It was sickening to listen to Dolan’s standard response about vaccines being 100% safe etc. I realise it is to cover the station’s backside so that the regulator doesn’t get involved, but it was read out without even a hint of sarcasm.

pjar
4 years ago

What business does ‘the Regulator’ have policing people’s opinions? The correct response is surely to counter any opinion you believe is wrong with facts, not censorship?

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  pjar

See assorted Handbooks on ‘How to Establish a Police State” (Chapter 2,” Control of the Media and the Message”)

Milo
Milo
4 years ago

I’d imagine there was a frantic producer bellowing in his ear piece!!!

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Saw it. I thought he did rather well, landed a lot of points, despite Mark Dolan’s panicky attempts to rein him in when he began to steer onto topics where GB News dare not venture.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Mark Steyn doesn’t seem to hold back though, he will take the piss out of some people who email in and tell them “just go and take another booster” very refreshing.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

Seems to hate Russia and buy unquestioningly into Zelensky though …..a bit disappointing .

Mark
4 years ago

The story the BBC etc downplayed or never told, 2015 German documentary: Ukrainian agony – The concealed war Of course, those heroic resisters of oppression in Odessa and SE Ukraine were not like the heroic resisters of oppression that the BBC etc likes to propagandise – they were not promoting Washington’s agenda, they were obstructing it. The attitude of locals in SE Ukraine to the Ukrainian troops illustrates the degree to which they were an occupation force. When contemplating how the story of the post-Maidan Ukraine has been intentionally misrepresented in the US sphere, we should also consider the words of former Swiss intelligence officer, Jacques Baud, that I posted here last week: “Let’s try to examine the roots of the conflict. It starts with those who for the last eight years have been talking about “separatists” or “independentists” from Donbass. This is not true. The referendums conducted by the two self-proclaimed Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk in May 2014, were not referendums of “independence” (независимость), as some unscrupulous journalists have claimed, but referendums of “self-determination” or “autonomy” (самостоятельность). The qualifier “pro-Russian” suggests that Russia was a party to the conflict, which was not the case, and the term “Russian… Read more »

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Cont: “…… In 2014, when I was at NATO, I was responsible for the fight against the proliferation of small arms, and we were trying to detect Russian arms deliveries to the rebels, to see if Moscow was involved. The information we received then came almost entirely from Polish intelligence services and did not “fit” with the information coming from the OSCE—despite rather crude allegations, there were no deliveries of weapons and military equipment from Russia. The rebels were armed thanks to the defection of Russian-speaking Ukrainian units that went over to the rebel side. As Ukrainian failures continued, tank, artillery and anti-aircraft battalions swelled the ranks of the autonomists. This is what pushed the Ukrainians to commit to the Minsk Agreements. But just after signing the Minsk 1 Agreements, the Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko launched a massive anti-terrorist operation (ATO/Антитерористична операція) against the Donbass. Bis repetita placent: poorly advised by NATO officers, the Ukrainians suffered a crushing defeat in Debaltsevo, which forced them to engage in the Minsk 2 Agreements. It is essential to recall here that Minsk 1 (September 2014) and Minsk 2 (February 2015) Agreements did not provide for the separation or independence of the Republics, but… Read more »

For a fist full of roubles
Reply to  Mark

Thank you for that Mark. Quite revealing.

loopDloop
loopDloop
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Really appreciate your contributions BTL here. Respect.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

That would be the same Jacques Baud that thinks the Skripals suffered from a bad dose of food poisoning?

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Doubtless. Whatever they did suffer from, the UK security state fantasy of a white-cat-stroking Putin plot is too ridiculous for a grown up to take seriously.

So I think he’s still well ahead of you, there.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I have just finished watching Ukrainian agony – The concealed war. From about 1.05.10, we see the destruction of Saur-Mogila, about 5km from the Ukrainian/Russian border.

It was a monument unveiled in 1963 to commemorate those who fell in the great struggle against Nazism – which took so many Russian and Ukrainian lives. In 2014, this monument was fiercely defended; but reduced to rubble.

For all those who despise the vileness of Nazism, for all those who lost their lives to it (including at least 20 million Soviet citizens) – whatever else happens in the Ukraine, Nazism must not win.

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago

That video from Shanghai…

crisisgarden
4 years ago

Mental if genuine! Some serious psyops going on 🤯

pjar
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Susan Michie and the rest of BIT will be watching with interest, no doubt?

mishmash
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Anti-CCP psyop. gentle at first until they want escalation, then the magic ‘lab leak theory’ will come true and everyone will hate China as planned.

pjar
4 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

If that’s so then the Chinese appear to be in on it too, or they wouldn’t keep doing these things… remember the videos of people falling over in the streets at the beginning of all this? Perhaps they are working towards their own destruction? But then, the West appears to be intent on destroying itself, so why not?

mishmash
4 years ago
Reply to  pjar

Chaos in Shanghai – looting, protests, suicides, starvation, pets killed, lockdowns and more. Viewer discretion is advised.

The CCP has no problem sacrificing cities of millions at the behest of the reset cult. This will be happening to the West sooner than we realise, but Covid won’t cut the mustard because people aren’t afraid of it anymore.
A new threat will be required, and instead of rallying to stop them when the threat was entirely fake, we’ll be too busy trying to survive when the threat is very real.
Remember what Billy Goats said: “You’ll take the next one seriously”.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

There also seems to be a lot of clips circulating, apparently from China, showing fully hazmat-suited “officials” doing all sorts of things to people and children, to degrade them in some way. I think they’re staged propaganda to keep pushing the fear, but I thought the same. There is a push to hate on China. Remember right back in early 2020, the Chinese people here, either living here, or visiting, were targeted when the MSM said that people were blaming them for the spread of the Rona, which then of course lead to dum-dums ACTUALLY doing that!

Mark
4 years ago

“Ep 47. Inside Ukraine – The changing phases of war – The Real Normal” – The podcast is back with Tanya Shelepko as she navigates life in Kyiv, Ukraine. They talk about her struggle to create art and retain her humanity, her work documenting war crimes in Bucha and Irpin, plus her thoughts about Russia and its people. As though the mainstream media need help in pushing Washington’s narrative…. The struggles between the US and Russia, and between Ukrainian nationalists and Russian speakers in Ukrainian and former Ukrainian territories, are conflicts in which we in Britain are formally neutral. People in this country are and should be free to support either side, and people here should accept the right of British people who take a different view on it t hold and to express that view (that’s not how it is, of course – there is another manufactured mass hysteria as there was over covid and BLM, where if you question the Official Truth narrative you are not just wrong, but evil, deluded, bad, and we are showered with one-sided, emotionally manipulative propaganda to whip up that hysteria. Those who question the pro-nationalist, pro-US lines are routinely censored on the… Read more »

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I am very concerned about the suppression of information concerning what is happening with regard to Ukraine. For years, information about what was happening there was available but ignored. It was always alarming.

The situation there is becoming more, rather than less serious, and is of vital interest to the world at large.

We need calm decision-making based on the facts as they are – not one-sided and grossly distorted propaganda. As it is, people are being encouraged to call for military actions which may have terrible consequences – in the first instance for Ukrainians.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

We need calm decision-making based on the facts as they are – not one-sided and grossly distorted propaganda. As it is, people are being encouraged to call for military actions which may have terrible consequences

Yes, we are being whipped up into an emotional frenzy just as with BLM and covid, but in this case the potential consequences, in the worst case scenario, are far worse than the rioting, abuse and persecution of dissenters caused by BLM, or the colossal waste and social destruction of covid panic

– in the first instance for Ukrainians.”

In the first instance, indeed.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

I’ve never really thought much about Ukraine at all.
Never thought about going there on holiday.
It could be argued that if the Ukrainians had just staged peaceful protests, wrote to Russian MPs, and filled in on-line petitions, the price of petrol, diesel, electricity, gas and oil in the UK wouldn’t have gone up.

Aelfsige
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

I don’t think what the Ukrainians want ever really mattered, it’s all about what the people sitting on multi-billion pound/euro/dollar budgets for “building democracy” want.

Ukrainians who had staged peaceful protests, or got involved with opposition politics have had nasty visits from the SBU (state security), neo-Nazi organisations, or both, who have persuaded them from their previous course of actions with applications of fists, boots, etc.

Here’s a photo from your Soaraway Sun, showing an SBU officer also sporting an SS Galizien badge, just to show that the Russian claims that the Ukraine has turned into a nazi state are clearly just propaganda:

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Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

If not for the nationalists, that whole thing would have turned into a gay parade.”

https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1497756961697411073?lang=en-GB

Mark
4 years ago

A Le Pen victory wouldn’t solve everything, but as with Trump’s victory in the US, and Brexit, it will be a metaphorical fist in the eye for the people who most deserve such a rebuke. Still a long shot, though. The Empire of Lies has a lot of tricks up its sleeve. France’s presidential election rematch is no replay as Macron, Le Pen eye suspenseful final duel “France is poised for a rematch of the 2017 presidential election run-off with centrist Emmanuel Macron and far-right candidate Marine Le Pen once again advancing to the final after first-round voting on Sunday. But the 2022 race has so far been anything but a replay of the contest Macron won five years ago. And the final result when all votes are counted on April 24 is all the more uncertain for it. Macron topped the first-round contest, winning 27.6 percent of the vote, according to Ipsos/Sopra Steria estimates late Sunday evening, ahead of Le Pen’s 23 percent score. Far-left candidate Jean-Luc Mélenchon rode a late surge – and an appeal for leftists to vote tactically – to 22.2 percent, narrowly falling short of a place in the final. The rest of the field… Read more »

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Mélenchon’s support is interesting. As European events continue to unfold, how that will break is difficult to predict. 

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Indeed. He’s made his views pretty clear on it:

“Meanwhile, in what may be his swan song on the French presidential stage, Jean-Luc Mélenchon appealed only for the 22.2 percent support he won on Sunday night – nearly three points up on his 2017 score – not to cast a single vote for Marine Le Pen. “I know your anger,” Mélenchon told supporters in his concession speech. “Do not let yourselves get carried away with it to the point of committing definitively irreparable errors,” he pleaded. But with his La France Insoumise (“France unbowed”) voters widely seen as most likely to sit out the run-off, the cantankerous 70-year-old far-leftists stopped well short of endorsing Macron and will have done very little to quell any frayed nerves in Macron’s camp.

What surprised me a bit was someone suggesting that Le Pen apparently gets muslim support in some areas – her results greeted with “Allahu Akbars”.

That must be a tricky divide to straddle…

But we can expect all the usual smears and scaremongering to be trotted out, with a extra helpings of “Putin apologist” this time around.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

What surprised me a bit was someone suggesting that Le Pen apparently gets muslim support in some areas – her results greeted with “Allahu Akbars”.

She’s clever about this: at pains to insist that her hostility is not directed at Muslims as people, but at their situation in today’s France.

As for directing people’s votes, that’s nowhere near as effective as politicians like to believe. La France Insoumise will be paying attention to what happens between now and April 24, and that could be tumultuous.

pjar
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

I’ve read that some of the fiercest opponents of unlimited immigration are first and second generation immigrants themselves… though I’m not sure of the reasons, or how the demographics may stack up?

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  pjar

Immigration changes people. Some can’t wait to take on a new and adjusted identity; others pine for their lost land.

Le Pen is appealing to the assimilationists. That’s not a classic far right position (whatever that is these days), and it’s winning her support.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

A Le Pen victory is a victory for socialism but then that is guaranteed, Macron offers only a slightly different form of socialism from her.

Mark
4 years ago

Again, I understand what you are getting at, but it becomes a little trivial just calling everyone socialist, even if they are

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

does anyone know at all where LePen stands on WEF agenda?

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

I certainly don’t. But given the desperation shown throughout the establishment any time she or her father have gotten anywhere near office, I’m happy to assume she’s better than the alternatives.

If she gets in (which I’d still call a long shot) I believe she will face the Trump treatment, basically demonised, smeared, sabotaged, undermined and defied at every turn.

Which, again, tells you they’re probably doing something right.

Mark
4 years ago

Canadian pastor who was jailed for 51 days after speaking to trucker convoy alleges mistreatment in prison

A reminder of the values we are standing up for in the Ukraine: political prisoner in Canada Pastor Artur Pawlowski, incredibly actually ordered by the regime’s puppet court to repeat state propaganda about covid nonsense whenever he mentions the topic in his sermons:

“Any time you publicly contradict the health officials, they order you to repeat the following:

“I am obliged to inform you that a majority of medical experts favour social distancing, mask wearing, and avoiding large crowds. Most medical experts also support participation in a vacination program..Vaccinations have been shown statistically to save lives and reduce the severity of COVID-19 symptoms.“”

Is there really any doubt that we in the US sphere are indeed living in the Empire of Lies, as Putin aptly puts it?

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

People have inside their heads a democratic West where free speech and reasonableness prevail, and a servile East ruled over by autocratic and evil dictatorships. This was always a gross oversimplification, and in the days when there was greater freedom of expression it was a subject which could be openly discussed. Not today. Today’s West has been bullied into acceptance of lies and misinformation on an unprecedented scale. The outrageous treatment of Pawlowski, in Canada of all places, shows us the depths to which Western “democracy” has sunk. Putin is neither Stalin nor Hitler. The demonisation of him is absurd. If he is what people think, Russia would never have headed into the Ukraine with such a small proportion of its armed forces. It needs to be understood that the Nazi (genuine actual Nazi) influence on Ukrainian decision-making has been growing for at least the last eight years and that it has been fostered by the US. As hard as it is for people to accept, the Russian version of events is the one that makes the most sense. That doesn’t make it accurate in all respects or free of propaganda; but the version being peddled in the West simply… Read more »

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

“As hard as it is for people to accept, the Russian version of events is the one that makes the most sense. That doesn’t make it accurate in all respects or free of propaganda; but the version being peddled in the West simply does not accord with observable facts.” Yes, exactly my assessment of the situation. “People have inside their heads a democratic West where free speech and reasonableness prevail, and a servile East ruled over by autocratic and evil dictatorships. “ For may (especially I think for those of the jingoist political right) this is an anachronism based on retention of Cold War attitudes. Though Prof Diesen’s more full description, which you might recall me quoting here recently, is good, I think: “Empathy with Russia, if not a common cause, is challenging the ideational structures and division of Europe.After the Cold War, the capitalist-communist divide was recast as a liberal democracy–authoritarian divide, which is now undermined by populists’ view of the world split along a national-patriotism versus cosmopolitan-globalism divide where Russia transitions from being an adversary to an ally.” Russia as an international conservative power: the rise of the right-wing populists and their affinity towards Russia That “world split along… Read more »

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The late 1940s Cold War propaganda on Russia was fascinating. Much stress on Russians in general and Stalin in particular being “Asiatic”. Did “Europe” end where Russia (and Georgia) began?

I agree with Diesen. The whole post-1989 situation demanded a re-think, which simply didn’t occur in many places; including some of the most important.

Russia was turned into what it perhaps always was in the eyes of the greedy: a place to loot. Well, the Russians had some experience of that, and they won’t put up with it again.

If people in the West think that Russians can’t endure economic hardship (which might well be nowhere near as severe as that which threatens the West), they don’t know Russians. If they think they have no pride in their country and their culture, they don’t know Russians. If they think they give up easily, they should try reading a history book or two. Ask the French or the Germans.

I note with interest that the Austrian Chancellor is meeting with Putin in Moscow today.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

You mean the empire of socialism, Justin Trudeau being the son of a communist dictator and an admirer of Maoist China.

He doesn’t essentially differ from Putin.

crisisgarden
4 years ago

Shanghai. In the grip of clown world. Residents being subjected to mind control and psychological games. Whatever can it mean?

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I have no idea. Does the Chinese government think that they can afford to make big mistakes in the interests of larger ends?

I imagine that might well be the case, but are those larger ends concerned with something we don’t know about Shanghai or something we suspect with regard to Taiwan?

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I have heard it suggested that it most likely reflects internal discord between Peking national authorities and Shanghai regional authorities. But I have no direct knowledge myself.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The thing to remember about the CCP is that they exist to maintain their grip on power at all costs. Normally this sort of nonsense might represent too much of a risk, but with other major economies shooting themselves in the foot, perhaps Peking can both maintain their dominant economic position and strengthen the state’s grip on power.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Fair point. I have also presumed that they had less internal and external competition with regard to holding power than is the case with other equally obsessed political parties!

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Yeah – I heard that. I don’t know whether that’s alarming or reassuring!

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

Returning to the issue of nuclear war, it was suggested that we’d all die. However, I heard a figure of one billion deaths suggested for a serious nuclear conflict, which means that about seven billion people would not die – so clearly not all. It has also been postulated that Russia might use a smaller nuclear weapon on some military target in the Ukraine, partly to scare off third party countries from interfering too much. Even if there was a large scale nuclear exchange, would all 12,000 odd nuclear missiles owned between Russia and NATO countries really ever be used? If not, how many before they stopped? Can they be intercepted at all? Which places would (and would not) be hit? How far away from a detonation would you have to be to stand a reasonable chance of surviving?

I assume there will be some sort of nuclear confrontation certainly within the next few hundred years, I don’t see how it can be avoided indefinitely with the state of proliferation. However, I suspect that chemical and biological could be a more serious problem.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

If you’re in a small country like the UK or other European nations, you have no chance. Bigger places like Canada, Australia, US, Russia, you could conceivable get far enough away, with wind calculations, etc., and live out in the sticks.

Have some fun and see for yourself on this hilarious interactive nuke map! See that just one Topol SS25 Russian missile takes out the entirety of London.

https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

Ooh, I’m just outside the light blast damage radius (if I’ve done it right).

Surely it won’t be an exact circle in real world conditions? Weren’t there buildings half a mile from ground zero in Hiroshima that were left standing?

The other question is, how likely are nuclear powers to come into direct conflict? I have a sneaking suspicion that MAD will fail sooner or later.

pjar
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The thing about MAD is that it relies of those with their fingers on the nuclear buttons not actually being, well, mad… or senile.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

Your shadow will be burnt into the nearest wall before you know what happened.
Your ghost can do the wind calculations.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

We’ve lived with the fear of nuclear confrontation for so long that most have forgotten it. It’s become a sort of low background hum.

I agree that the “chemical and biological” could be a more serious problem. Though the rest of the world doesn’t want to talk about biolabs in the Ukraine, the Russians are mightily interested in whatever has been going on inside them.

My concern is the lack of cool heads in the West: too many ideologues with too little experience of what actual war actually means. The Eisenhower and Kennedy generations are long gone. The US State Department seems populated by those determined to show just how “passionate” and “holier than thou” they are. For them, peace is for sissies.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

I suppose Russia has good reason to be concerned about biolabs in Little Russia (as it used to be called). I used to enjoy the columns by W.F. Deedes. Sadly, his generation is dying out (though the last I heard, centenarians were the fastest increasing demographic).

If it were down to me, groups like SAGE would be required to have at least one centenarian in an advisory role, so they would have at least some sort of chance of having a long perspective.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Yes! For a start, they were I think better and more broadly educated even before they entered the workforce.

Added to that is the experience of seeing ideas promulgated and tested against reality – time and time again.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

Cancer is now a public health emergency” – Restoring face to face appointments with GPs is only the start of what needs to be done to tackle it, says Consultant Surgeon J. Meirion Thomas in the Telegraph.

Is there a full, accurate list being made of all the people the Johnson Government murdered 2020-2022? Counting lockdowns, denial of health services and cell therapy deaths, the number must surely end up in seven figures?

And what’s going to be done about it?

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

I’d like to know how many people have died in the past century because of the pharmaceutical industry, including distortions and propaganda relating to cancer.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Oh I say. Beastly news…

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Well cg, what else are hands for!

It’s dangerous to exchange greetings with them or touch surfaces that might have been touched by other (you know) humans (shudder).

As for the other unspeakable things they can do – disgusting really. It’s time they were put to good use as a means of extracting funds and data that can be made profitable for someone, somewhere.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

I stillthink it was strange that we were advised to cough into our elbows – and then do those daft elbow bumps (did any normal people ever do them?).

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The ones I’ve seen doing them manage to look a bit sheepish – in more ways than one.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Saw something similar back in the day when I did watch BBC News (I know, I’m so ashamed of myself) about staff getting chips in their hands so that they didn’t have to produce a swipe card to enter their work place security system.

The things some people will do for convenience….

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago

URGENT: Stop the WHO taking over our Democracy!
https://www.keepbritainfree.com/post/urgent-stop-the-who-taking-over-our-democracy

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Emerald Fox
4 years ago

There is no ‘Bagshot Lane’ in Bracknell.
There is a Bagshot Road, however.

Steve-Devon
4 years ago

Plan to replace boilers with heat pumps could cost £115 billion
They are also using this as another lever to get us all using ‘smart-meters’, a heat pump is a major electrical installation and requires agreement from your power distribution company, they are moving to a position where such agreement will only be given if you have a smart meter. Once your heating is on a smart meter it is under their control and they may well need this to control total electric usage through an inadequate generation and distribution system.

When we had our house looked at by an energy adviser they said that the electric supply to our house was probably inadequate to run a heat pump, they thought we would need to augment our electric with solar panels and a large storage battery if we were going to have any chance of running a heat pump. I have not seem any figures but I do wonder if the UK’s electric generation and distribution system is in any way capable of supporting a switch to heat pumps?

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago

Seamless Continuity Editing in the Emergency Capitalism Movie” – A discussion of the interplay between war, lockdowns, the financial system and capitalism’s need for a constant state of crisis by Rusere Shoniwa in Left Lockdown Sceptics.

This is well worth listening to, whether you identify as left/right or nothing at all – especially the first 20 minutes.

Rusere Shoniwa is interviewing Fabio Vighi. They discuss events between September 2019 and March 2020, when the Fed injected $9 trillion into the US banking system (equivalent to more than 40% of the US GDP), in order to stave off what is described as the 2008 crisis on steroids.

The lockdowns of March 2019 are seen as a means of creating an “economic coma” to avoid hyperinflation. Covid 2019 is followed, it’s suggested, by Putin 2022. China is described as “using Covid” deliberately as a form of population control.

There are references to a form of capitalism which is increasingly divorced from a “real economy” (in which people actually make things), into one that is characterised by a series of financial bubbles and is addicted to debt.

maggie may
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Just read the article accompanying this piece, very interesting.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

There is no such thing as a need for a ‘constant state of crisis’ from Capitalism.

This is a moronic absurdity.

No, capitalism doesn’t lead to war and lockdown is communist so the whole thing is a load of Hegelian gibberish where everything is the exact opposite of what it is.

Every major country implemented the ten planks of the Communist Manifesto long ago.

There are references to a form of capitalism which is increasingly divorced from a “real economy” (in which people actually make things), into one that is characterised by a series of financial bubbles and is addicted to debt.”

References to an interventionist mixed economy that these savages call capitalism. There, translated into a known language for you.

“The lockdowns of March 2019 are seen as a means of creating an “economic coma” to avoid hyperinflation.”

Hyperinflation is the result of state intervention in the economy. The Federal Reserve is a central bank and a central bank is one of the ten planks of the Communist Manifesto.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago

Trans killer says she [sic] identifies as baby, demanding dummy in her [sic] cell” – Trans killer Sophie Eastwood now identifies as a baby and demands prison guards hold ‘her’ hand, provide baby food and allow ‘her’ to wear nappies; ‘she’ has also been given a dummy, reports the Mail.

Has anyone passed on the news to Julian Assange? He’d like some fresh air – nothing wildly extravagant.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

I’d like to self identify as a free- thinking human being with bodily autonomy.

What do you think my chances are?

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

I think it might work. They’d fall down in a dead faint: a WHAT?!?

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

It could be the start of a new political movement – all we need is a logo and some T shirts. Any ideas? This could be big!!!

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

I think Bob Moran’s our man …

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

We’d have to co-opt him – if he’d be willing.

And we’d need a concise catchy slogan – something to grab the attention.

Mogwai
4 years ago

Here is el gato malo with a good example/explanation of why it’s ridiculous for employers to mandate staff to have these “vaccines”; because they don’t work, have well-documented nasty side-effects and they screw up your innate immune system. ( Cheers JayBee ) https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/covid-is-becoming-increasingly-vaccine?s=r

Emerald Fox
4 years ago

Some people on here said that the Ukraine situation was to deflect interest away from the ‘Covid’ situation at home – they were right!

thefoostybadger
thefoostybadger
4 years ago

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-61061976

Although unintentional, and obviously motivated by pathetic virtue signalling, on reflection this could have an upside in keeping the slowly shrinking number of frightened and “vulnerable” types away from us realists.

Indeed why stop at separate theatre performances for the masked? We could give them their own shops, park benches, swimming pools, seats on buses etc, etc.

Not to mention free trains to take them to special camps, or help with relieving them of possessions and property they will no longer need.

See where you’re going with this Ms Carr?

Complete idiot.

Phil Shannon
4 years ago

ITEM: “Meet Australia’s answer to Donald Trump, the unvaccinated billionaire hoping to stop Labor from winning” – The vote will be held on May 21st, and Clive Palmer could upend the predicted two-horse race, reports the Telegraph. I must say I have warmed to the “people’s billionaires” in recent years. Donald Trump was all for putting his country – and its working class – front and centre of politics and the economy. Clive Palmer is taking square aim at the duopoly of establishment centre-right and centre-left parties in Australia, focusing on their assault against freedom during the Covid debacle and the losing each-way race between galloping inflation and rising interest rates that has flowed from the government’s fiscal profligacy of those years. His party’s TV ads are a welcome antidote to the hysterical Covid propaganda we have had to endure for two years. Opinion polls only show his party polling only around 3% but under Australia’s preferential voting system, the bloc of major freedom parties (including Palmer’s) and a plethora of freedom micro-parties, the trade between transferable votes will be brisk and pretty watertight so some of their number (including Palmer) are likely to make it to the Senate to make life exceedingly… Read more »

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

We need a few good billionaires to fight the Global Private Public Partnership, the billionaires committed to the reset who are buying up every global commodity and the reason Mr Schwab can say YOU WILL OWN NOTHING

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

Putting the working class front and centre by making goods rarer and more expensive with his hyper-protectionism.

Putting Saudi Arabia first too, defending the Saudi Regime after a Saudi National killed American citizens.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

Any billionaire who’s vilified in the media is worth a second look.

Politicians who failed to oppose what’s been inflicted on Australians in the last two years have lost any respect I ever had for them.

I always enjoy voting below the line for the Senate – and this year it might be more fun than usual. (I don’t think that can be quickly translated for the English. Let’s just say it’s a ballot paper exercise favoured by the pernickety and the curmudgeonly).

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

The Scottish Greens’ Lorna Slater also claimed feminists who fear the self-ID laws are secretly funded by “certain right-wing American groups”, according to the Telegraph.”

Marxist ad hominem drivel from the Greens who are at war with biology in the name of science.

They’re at war with the existence of mankind, in their philosophy.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

This is obviously not the case where the angry politician and father on the clip is concerned, but have the idiots who suggested this any idea of the danger such questions present to some children?

They are inviting children to initiate a sexual conversation with an adult! Are they insane? This is a long way from working out how best to answer questions about where babies come from.

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago

Trans Scots killer now identifying as infant demands nappies and baby food in jail
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/trans-murderer-prison-identify-baby-26669658
By Mark McGivern Chief Reporter

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago

That video of thousands(?) of people crying out in unison in Shanghai is chilling. Why isn’t this leading every newscast in the world?

Answer: Because our Powers that Be probably endorse such lockdowns. Or they don’t want the masses in our countries to scream out in protest either.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

Is it verified?

If it is, how can they explain it away?

Star
4 years ago

Good news! Czechia has opened up to visitors from Britain who will not consent to “vaccination”, testing, or quarantine.

The 16 sovereign countries in Europe to which we can go freely are:

  • the 3 in Scandinavia
  • Iceland
  • the 3 Baltic states
  • 6 others that were members of, or are “successor states” to members of, the Warsaw Pact: Czechia, Hungary, Moldova, Poland, Romania, and Slovakia
  • 2 from former Yugoslavia: Montenegro and Slovenia
  • Republic of Ireland

The list of shame, consisting of countries from which we are banned, includes France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Portugal, Switzerland, Austria, Malta, Cyprus, Bulgaria, Serbia, Croatia, North Macedonia, Greece, and Bosnia.

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

What happens if the flight gets diverted? Just a thought.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

I dunno. They wouldn’t allow you through immigration, so presumably they’d hold you in airside transit for a while.

Other banned countries wholly or partly in Europe that I forgot are Belarus, Finland, Ukraine, and the three transcontinentals – Russia, Turkey, and Kazakhstan.

Star
4 years ago

Regarding that shouting and screaming in Shanghai, let’s hope it presages large-scale refusal of the lockdown, or mass house arrest to give it its real name.

It may do. See the pot banging in Buenos Aires in Argentina (Argentinazo 2001) and in other countries too.

Warning to ruling scum everywhere: you may think everything is going your way, but if you push people enough you will find our explosion point. Whether you like it or not, urban areas are densely populated.

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago

That screaming from people driven mad is what they have planned for the world. Actually, maybe worse. I think the people behind this are insane and they have found a way to spread their insanity and torture. I think the description is hell on earth.

I’m starting to consider religion as I can see no logic and ultimately no benefit for anyone. How else can you explain things but good and evil?

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

Agreed, it’s all to do with good and evil.
But the screaming isn’t mad. It’s anti-scientific (and anti-patriarchal) sanity. It’s necessary. It’s the way forward, the way out.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

Deeply shocking video from China. Are we watching Genocide in action?

Is this what the “Smart Cities” are being prepared for?