Vaccine Mandates Are “Scientifically Questionable” and “Ethically Problematic”, Say Researchers
A group of medical researchers and bioethicists have written a comprehensive assessment of Covid vaccine coercion policies, encompassing passports, mandates and segregated lockdowns. They argue in no uncertain terms that these measures are “scientifically questionable” and “ethically problematic”.
While most of the points in their article will be familiar to readers of the Daily Sceptic, the article is valuable in virtue of its sheer breadth and attention to detail. I’ll try to provide a brief summary.
Kevin Bardosh and colleagues begin by noting that the publicly communicated rationale for Covid vaccine policies has shifted over time, from ‘ending the pandemic’ and ‘getting back to normal’, to reducing the burden on the healthcare system. (Such shifts do not inspire confidence that policymakers really know what they’re doing.)
The authors spend the bulk of the article discussing the harmful unintended consequences of Covid vaccine policies, drawing on insights from the behavioural sciences, law and bioethics.
They cite evidence that the coercive nature of Covid vaccine policies is likely to reduce compliance with other public health measures, including recommendations to take existing vaccines (which have much longer track records than the Covid vaccines). This owes to mechanisms of psychological reactance and loss of trust in the health authorities.
The authors argue that such effects will be compounded by the use of stigmatisation as a public health strategy, and by the dissemination of misleading or false claims on the part of health authorities (such as Anthony Fauci’s claim that, once vaccinated, “you become a dead end to the virus”).
As regards the former, the authors have compiled a list of some of the most incendiary statements made by politicians about unvaccinated people.
Emmanuel Macron admitted his aim was “pissing them off”. Justin Trudeau described them as “extremists who don’t believe in science”, adding “they’re often misogynists, also often racists”. Naftali Bennett accused them of “endangering their health, those around them and the freedom of every Israeli citizen”.
Yet as Bardosh and colleagues note, many unvaccinated people had perfectly good reasons for remaining unvaccinated, such as being in a low-risk category or having natural immunity from previous infection.
Turning to the legality of Covid vaccine policies, the authors note that many measures were merely decrees, passed under states of emergency in the absence of normal democratic governance. As a result, injured parties (such as those who lost their livelihood) have had fewer or no opportunities for proper redress.
Vaccine passports also constitute a significant infringement on privacy, insofar as they require the sharing of medical information with people other than one’s doctor, including not only border officials, but owners of pubs, restaurants and nightclubs.
What’s more, vaccine mandates that disproportionately restrict people’s access to things like work, education and social life can be considered violations of basic human rights, the authors argue. This may explain why the WHO’s Director of Immunisation said in 2020, “I don’t think we envision any countries creating a mandate for vaccination.”
There are many other interesting observations in the paper itself, which is worth reading in full.
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Vaccine Mandates Are “Scientifically Questionable” and “Ethically Problematic”, Say Researchers
Too true – but get used to ‘em.
The Johnson government is in the process of signing UK up to the WHO’s ‘global pandemic plan’……..this will surely mandate jabs.
Mandatory jabbing is illegal in UK – but if an international treaty demands it, then the law will have to be changed.
All this is being done whilst the MSM concentrates on Ukraine.
It does look that way but they’ll run into the same resistance. This experience has hardened the position of my family and friends. None of us will ever be ‘vaccinated’ against anything ever again.
That’s why we also have the bills going through parliament to crack down on the right to protest and to shackle dissenting opinions in the media. It is all coordinated.
Once OFCOM get the right to regulate online content under the ‘harmful but not illegal’ clause you can kiss goodbye to sites like Lockdown Sceptics and TCW.
It will just be driven ‘undergound’ – remeber pirate radio?
Vaccine Mandates Are “Scientifically Questionable” and “Ethically Problematic”, Say Researchers
Too true – but get used to ‘em.
That is not an option. They can declare whatever they want. We will resist, because there is no choice if you want a life. There are people who would rather die than accept that their body is no longer their own.
I am one of them.
Brave commnent!
i am too
Me too.
their body is no longer their own
Too late they nationalised the body with the creation of the NHS.
It worked better at the time that Vernon Coleman was a GP. More autonomy, more clinical freedom. Ironically ‘the state owns your body’ has become more prevalent since Thatcher and Blair, neither of whom were lefties.
GPs must not be salaried. They must remain independent contractors. IMO the correct method of payment remains a simple capitation fee, i.e. £200 per year or whatever for every patient on that GP’s list.
No payments for blood pressure or cholesterol tests, no payments for putting a patient on statins or BP drugs. Those corrupt practices were part of the pharma takeover of the NHS.
Most of our Nightmare on every single front comes directly from the USA – a society now in total meltdown!!
The NHS is now visibly imploding – so the captured “body” can escape!
It’s the hill I will die on. My body is my own, not theirs to do with as they wish. I won’t be coerced, lied to, pushed around or bullied. If they had been honest and truthful from the start, and avoided the fearmongering, it might have been a different story, but with the dreadful Pfizer trial documents now coming to light, I feel vindicated in my stance.
Same here. None of my children or animals have ever been jabbed with anything, as we were already suspicious of the magic potions, but the last two years have confirmed that the whole vaccine thing is a dangerous web of lies and deceit to make profits for corporations.
Ha! We got a kitten late last year and we won’t even have her jabbed. I am literally done with vaccines (and other pharmaceuticals) – even for pets! Even the vet can f*ck off with their jabs!
No jabs and if kitten can’t access mice include some raw meat and fish in her diet, commercial pet foods are dire. No cat or dog was ever supposed to consume that much fibre. I reckon most pet illnesses are deficiency diseases or consequential to vaccination. I think it was parvo virus that was unheard of in dogs until pet vaccines were introduced in the 1970s.
I will remember that, thank you. I love my little cat and want her to live as naturally as possible. We’re not getting her spayed or chipped. That can absolutely f*ck off too. Even though spayed cats live longer, I would rather she lead a shorter and more natural life.
one of the greatest joys in my life is my love for my (and other) cats
there is nothing so low cost, so little effort that is so life enhancing
Isn’t it illegal now for cats to be unchipped? I hope it is, my little cat can join the rest of the rebels in the house.
How do you avoid contributing the feral cat population?
A sensible and righteous question. Fortunately I live in the most politically correct, Guardian reading, climate change campaigning, Tesla driving, hand wringing, quadruple vaccinated street in Britain. The chances of my little cat becoming pregnant are roughly the same as my own.
😀 😀
There are certainly unneutered feral male cats around, and toms will travel a long way to find a female in heat. Your cat will certainly turn up pregnant, probably the first time she goes into heat, unless you very carefully keep her locked up inside (and good luck putting up with all the caterwauling when she is in heat).
Sure, I hear you. I don’t mind her becoming pregnant and will cross that bridge when we get to it. I know the caterwauling is a lot to deal with . Yep. Still don’t want to take her to a vet though. I’ve fallen out with the medical establishment.
Towns and cities could do with a few more unowned cats, they keep the rodent population in check. In my view cats are the guardians of the night, keeping evil and rodents away from the house. Trouble is the do gooders would rather kill off the cat population, much like the government wants to do to us.
I hear you on that. The vets practice I use is still insisting on keeping pet owners outside while their pets are examined/treated. I intend staying away from them if at all possible.
Someone really doesn’t like my approach to cat husbandry 😂
we go for dry food and kitty tops up with mice (crunching on the bones is good for teeth cleaning)
the wet cat food is terrible for their teeth
Don’t be “Pet Foo’le’d”
https://vimeo.com/300627165
I had a beautiful cat who died of a blood clot within 48 hours of vaccination 15 years ago. I’ve never had any of my many animals vaccinated since.
Sorry about the vaccination death.No wonder you don’t get your animals vaccinated.
Our dog was a rescue puppy and had been vaccinated by the rescue home before we got her but hasn’t been vaccinated since. She’s 15 now and in very good health.
That’s awful I’m sorry. That has fortified my (rather unscientific) position!
We had a vet who wasn’t into vaccines and so we had blood titres done for the dog and she isn’t vaccinated – she’s now 15 and doing well.
Unfortunately the vet retired and the practice has been taken over by a large vet group and has a completely different ethos. The younger vets are all about the drugs but there are older ones who are still open minded and respect our decisions.
Sadly, kennels insist that dogs are vaccinated but we used alternatives to kennels when we went away and will do that for any other dogs we get.
Same. And most of my mum’s carers say they won’t be getting another.
My cousin and uncle in the US are lost causes, however. To them, I am “behaving terribly” and they say that I have a “need to do whatever I want without consequences”.
I have given up on them. The animosity and ignorance on display from them is enough to cause a minor heart attack!
I think they’ve fucked it, frankly, with this fiasco. Trust (and not just amongst sceptics like us) must be at rock bottom. If the WHO think they’re going to impose a vaccine regimen on the world, they’re tripping.
Yep. I didn’t realise this, but apparently in the US it’s common to stick the flu jab into any fool that will take it, regardless of age. I spoke to a 23-year American lad just before Christmas who was appalled when I said they only offered the flu jab to people over 60 in NL, he couldn’t believe it. Didn’t think to question whether we had more flu deaths, apparently that part is irrelevant.
Alex Berenson had an item on his substack earlier this week about the flu jab and that it does not seem to have done much to stop flu deaths. Lots of commenters BTL said they would not be getting them any longer. I suspect that as more people see how spectacularly the convid vaxx has failed, they will also start looking at the flu vaxx as well – being similarly useless, if not quite as lethal.
“Tripping’?
I do ask myself what part regular Cocaine use at ‘the Top” has played in the Global nightmare we are experiencing – especially in the Financial and Upper Corporate sectors !
Yes. If they were tripping, it would probably be a lot more flexible. I wish they were tripping,
‘The animosity and ignorance on display from them is enough to cause a minor heart attack!’
In which party? 😉
Animosity and ignorance should be added to the list of risk factors likely to cause heart attacks.
I think I know why, cg.
I’ll wager it’s because you’re fully ‘vaccinated’ against government propaganda and mainstream media bull-poo! 😉
Even when the Heavies in masks knock on your door?
See China – where apparently inhabitants of one town, according to reports, have been ordered to kill all their indoor pets!
As we see from total surveillance plans , digital passport plans , lockdowns and Internment Camps ( see Australia) – what happens in China today , is the West’s dark tomorrow!
I honestly think they’re dreaming (or tripping, or rushing, or hallucinating at any rate) if they think that kind of society can be ushered in, especially after all of this. I don’t doubt that there was a pipe dream to attach vaccine status to digital ID/money, but I think it’s dead in the water.
“I don’t doubt that there was a pipe dream to attach vaccine status to digital ID/money, but I think it’s dead in the water.”
I wish I had your confidence CG. Unfortunately my reading of the pandemic treaty the UK government will likely sign us up to does lead to that end – can you say why you think it is dead in the water?
Two things: Firstly I trust humans ultimately to identify this creeping evil and realise they’re in a corner. So far while life remains relatively ‘normal’ people have been able to carry on in blind ignorance without questioning what’s happening. I believe that the transformation to the kind of dystopia TPTB have in mind would be met with resistance and people would find ways round the apparatus that digital serfdom would entail.
Secondly, I think that these big changes require momentum and moral panic. Covid provided, in Klaus Schwab’s own words, a ‘window of opportunity’ to put in place big changes to society and now that pandemic fatigue has clearly set in, I think that window is closing. Without another pandemic (and no, I wouldn’t put it past them) I just don’t think there is the political headroom to start demanding vaccination and making normal life contingent on it. How would they justify it? There are legal proceedings the world over against the Covid chicanery, it’s becoming toxic. I think they’ll go back to creeping technocratic changes and anyway, the Western financial system may run away from them before they can usher in their Brave New World.
The ‘demanding vaccination to make living normal contingent on it’ is the part that has never made sense to me – why on earth should you need a vaccination to access your bank account or to buy food – there could be no logical justification for it, but the days of logical justification for anything might disappear if the EU get their policy in place (scarily soon) and the UK signs up to the WHO pandemic treaty. MSM is silent on both, so how would people then know to push back against those things unless they are doing their own research and know that they are in train. Kate attached this link to a piece on Robert Malone’s substack account last night – it is good and worth a read. Ernest Wolff sets out what has been done, where we are now, and where they are trying to go – there is a bit of hope at the end, but it is contingent on people waking up and doing it soon: Uncovering the Corona Narrative – by Robert W Malone MD, MS (substack.com) “the introduction of digital central bank money would be expected to produce huge social unrest. And it… Read more »
We are not China and I don’t ever see us being as tolerant of repressive regimes as the Chinese have been. Even so, according to YouTube commentator LaoWhy86, the Chinese have started to rebel against the latest lockdowns.
same here!
People are always hardened in talking. How many times I heard in the last 2 years that “I will never do it” and then of course give up. I can count on my 5 fingers who didn’t give in.
I wish I could say the same for my family and friends. They’ve been brainwashed very successfully. I’ve very sad about that but it’s their choice, not mine.
It’s a sadness that we can’t leave behind.
It is isn’t it? I look at them all through different eyes…
They don’t know what they are doing and they want more powers to do it. It makes perfect sense.
Mandated One way trips on Tumbrils for establishment members are “Scientifically Justified and Ethical” Say online commenters who uptick.
They are working to overcome legal barriers to vaccine mandates even as we write ( see iniquitous ‘Bill of Rights ‘small print details, plus Johnson signing us up to new draconian powers for the Gates Who to over-ride National Government with its own mandates ).
The Ukraine of course as obviously intended, is the perfect cover fo divert the sheep from the biggest attack on individual human rights and freedoms in our modern history!
They just don’t get it. It’s much simpler than that. “Ethically problematic”? How about they just kill more people than they save?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/J0Q2VPVyckxF/
Even if they did not kill more people than they save, they are still ethically problematic.
The vaccines are a religion — they only require faith. Discussion of any aspect of them using logic and science is futile.
People lose faith. Not all of them, not everywhere, not at the same time – but they do lose it. I see it happening all around me.
That is a fact…whatever msm likes to promote about ‘demand’ for gene therapies, ‘faith’ is being replaced with ‘suspicion’, even ‘alarm’ by some.
Jab fanaticism is a subset of “The Science”, which has nothing to do with scientific principles (scepticism, and expanding list of what’s False)
Indeed – it was a BTL contributor who made the valid point: You can’t reason someone out of a position that they reached without the use of reason.
Not heard that before, but absolutely bang on the button. When blind faith is the reason, no amount of logic or fact will make any difference. Guardian readers, for example, use an emotive faith on almost all topics, and are beyond rational discussion. Btw, ‘BTL’?
below the line [ the comments below the article ] i didn t know what it was either till someone explained , i never know what these abbreviations are !
How the hell do you manage to get a down-vote for that? Funny what some people consider confrontational!
thank you free lemming and for the laughs what i love most here think!
besides the writing and fellowship , from across the pond , so glad found daily sceptic , a lifesaver!
was just trying to help out now that i know what it means i like it!
ATL = Above The Line i.e. articles
If ‘vaccines’ are a ‘religion’ then is the religion is Jones Town and are they are the “Kool Aid” moment ?
this ‘vaccine’ is like winning the lottery for those invested
Bill Gates: The Best Investment I’ve Ever Made
Would that include “Sir” Patrick Vallance?
Yes, it would. And it would also include every GP signed up to peddle the clot shot.
whilst they still won’t see patients in person
Hence why the government want to rewrite the human rights act to allow them to mandate these things in the future.
Hence why the government want to bring in curbs on the media to suppress all dissent.
Hence why the government want to bring in the new crime and policing laws to crackdown on the right to protest.
Covid-19 was the test case for each country to see where the limits where and what needed fixing before we move to Stage 2.
Agree – which is why Canada (Trudeau, Freeland, Joly and all the other WEF-trained Canadian politicians) went hard on regulation…….and cracked down even harder on the truckers and ordinary people who saw through it.
Yes and ‘the future’ will be later this year as soon as Johnson has grabbed more power!
( See UVDL’s dark plans for the EU! They have already ridden down the Human Rights protection in Europe without a whimper from the Courts designed to protect them – see arrest of dissenter scientist in Holland)
UVDL?
Ursula Von der Leyen, I would imagine.
Indeed David – and Brexit aside, which David Cameron let them down badly on (he was confident he could deliver them a yes vote), when have you EVER come across the EU publishing a proposed policy that they don’t end up getting their way on?
To me it is a done deal. And do you think too many european citizens being asked to jump through vaxx passport hoops know ANYTHING about it? very much doubt it.
Agreed – I read that somewhere – a trial run to get the infrastructure for it all in place.
Isn’t it odd that with “cases” of the “deadly pandemic illness” rising countries were all keen to turn it all off like turning off a tap, almost all at the same time, at the same time as it was go go go for war in Ukraine, the next phase of the scam
“A Protection Racket For The Pharmaceutical Industry”
https://rumble.com/vz1k5k-a-protection-racket-for-the-pharmaceutical-industry.html
Senator Malcolm Roberts discusses the Australian government’s criminal behavior over the last two years.
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Malcolm Roberts was impressive, which only serves to underline the spineless bunch of MPs we now have – with only a handful of principled exceptions. If only an opposition party leader would take up the cudgels, as Charles Kennedy did both before and during the Iraq slaughter in 2003, or a government minister would step down and attack Boris & chums from the back benches (as Robin Cook did).
But it ain’t gonna happen, as UK politics is broke beyond repair. And the younger generations have absolutely no grasp of political, ethical or moral imperatives, only their careers. And that means being seen to say and do the right thing at all times. That’s a one way ticket to disaster – so scr*w them!
There can be no cosy retirement or care home vegetation for those older folks who can see through this deliberate mess, as we all need to stand against it. Don’t let doctors, or your children and friends make you think you’re vulnerable or in need of drugs, because the chances are you’re not – and once you give into this revolting eugenic narrative you’re f****d. In short, we all need to get our act together.
Anthony Fauci’s claim that, once vaccinated, “you become a dead end to the virus”
Devi Sridhar “vaccines are 100% safe for children” – even the BBC had to censor that one
there has been so much disinformation from the ‘experts’
yes, the vaccines were supposed to stop covid spread. yes, the “experts” told us so.
Has a list of misinformers.
Diable!
yes!
Fauci’s claim is of course partially correct – once you have been injected you are decidedly on the at risk of dying register and when dead the virus dies with you.
Buried in the news over the last couple days, a boy in “year 7” (a ploy by MSM to hide the age) has had a suspected heart attack and died. They’ve been trying to normalise these heart attacks in young people for the last six months or so.
Savij Jabid was on yesterday apologising for the deaths of thousands of babies in Shrewsbury Maternity Hospital. Another example of mass death at the hands of government.
Lessons will be learned. Follow the science. If it saves one life. Just get the jab.
Anyone who thinks that a long discussion or profound thought or experts or researchers are required to finish the sentence “vaccine mandates are…” needs to examine themselves very thoroughly.
Perfectly put and bravo to you.
“are… phuquing dangerous.”
Neither long nor profound.
The psychological unpleasantness is inherent in vaccine compliance strategies, it depends upon gaslighting the harmed and their families and it has alway damaged the evidence base for safety and effectiveness. What we see now is repellant but it derives from two centuries of human and scientific manipulation.
https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3099/rr-5
The jab had lower mortality in the placebo group.
It clearly should not have been approved.
‘Approval’ was a rubber stamp – sadly our institutions are now thoroughly corrupt.
In the US Fauci has been playing the system for decades ( see RFKJ’s dynamite book “The Real Anthony Fauci”)
Isn’t it amazing what the promise of grants and funding can do ? ( See the sad history of Ivermectin and the thwarting of Dr Tess Laurie’ s brave efforts to have its use sanctioned )
The jab, was not just “ethically questionable” but clearly illegal under the Nuremberg code as an experimental treatment. As such, it was illegal even to coerce people through propaganda let alone threaten people with losing their jobs and hide all the evidence of harm.
They are trashing the Nuremberg Code before our eyes -and nothing has happened
Quite correct that vaccine policies are likely to reduce compliance with other public health measures. I won’t even be going to the quack for any more health checkups. I don’t trust them as far as I could throw them.
Another consequence is the massive divisions between friends and family. I have given up hope of ever seeing one of my children and two of my grand-children ever again. And I have given up on several decades long friendships because it’s impossible to talk to them without them thinking, and in some cases saying, that I’m an idiot.
I suspect we’ll be paying the price of these corrupt and harmful policies for decades.
Yes I completely agree. I’ll be paying a cash price later today when I go to see a doctor privately because I have chosen not to use the NHS due to their proven inability to provide the service for which we all pay our taxes. I haven’t experienced the upsetting divisions that you have, although I did have a discussion with an apparently Piers Morgan indoctrinated cousin who insisted that the non vaccinated should not be treated by the NHS, which I ended by telling him I thought he and people like him should be strung up from the nearest tree.
We should at least be able to opt out of taxed for the entering the queue for notional health service “care”
I’m assuming the anonymous downvoter is Piers Morgan.
If an MLA seeking election to the Stormont assembly has the temerity to knock on my door in an effort to canvass my vote they will have to be able to give me a good answer to 2 questions:
I expect to receive a blank look when I raise question 2.
And I have a neat follow up to question 2 which will also likely bamboozle them – ie considering due to the crap Brexit deal, NI has been “left inside” the EU, so does UVDL’s proposed plans for the EU along similar lines to the WHO apply to NI and if so how do they plan to get out out of them.
I’ll report back if it happens.
IMHO, the sensible reply to such a statement is “Fine. I have absolutely no problem with you not wanting to pay for my health care, however, I don’t want to pay for your health care, either, and especially, I don’t want to pay for this enormously expensive vaccination campaign. Where can I get my money back?”
I agree, however you overlook the fact that he has been brainwashed by Piers Morgan, and therefore rational sane arguments are not effective.
”many unvaccinated people had perfectly good reasons for remaining unvaccinated, such as being in a low-risk category or having natural immunity from previous infection”
I’m not particularly low risk, I haven’t had covid and didn’t and won’t have the so-called vaccines. For a number of reasons. I don’t think they are vaccines. I don’t think they are safe. They haven’t been though the standard regulatory processes to obtain approvals. I think mandates of any treatment are wrong, and I won’t be told, manipulated, pressured or coerced by anyone, and especially Boris Johnson, to inject anything into my body.
This is the type of back door BS that will prop up future vaxx mandates. It doesn’t matter if a person has a ‘perfectly good reason’ or not, all that matters is that a person is given the FULL info about the medical treatment and is allowed to make a FREE & UNCOERCED decision accordingly, as per the ethical principles contained in the Nuremberg code. Perfectly good reasons under future legislation are open to be defined by secondary ministerial powers – in other words one does as one is told.
Even if it is the greatest treatment known to man, with zero side effects and a ten year guaranteed life extension, if I don’t want to take then that’s that!!
Absolutely! Even the wording used here is framing the narrative – “ethically questionable”. No it’s not ‘questionable’, it is simply outrageous! No one should be coerced into taking any type of drug, medication or treatment they do not want, beginning and end of story, nor should they have to justify why they do not wish to subject their body to such.
An important point. Deciding for yourself is always good enough reason to refuse treatment.
As the ad agency for a now American owned supermarket chain might have put it:
‘No Reason To Have A Good Reason!’
It’s such a joy that all these well-educated people are coming around to my point of view.
But still not enough to make the slightest difference to Javid and Johnson’s Master Plan !
This we know …but when not one single Institution from Government Ministers, Police, the Courts the Lords to th Media the Unuons theTeachers the Universties, the H of Commons, the MHRA , the NHS Establishment the scientific ‘Community” will do anything to blow the whistle. Only yesterday we hear from an ex-SKY executive of Ofcom’s role as threatening to shut down, censor and repress the freedom of the Media to report the truth and cancel anuy journalist who steps out of line. Media exposure of the truth could have killed this dark project months ago – instead Media have been the principal agencies of lie propaganda fear stoking and and repression. Emergency Covid Legislation = Police State ( see 1934 Germany) It seem it is now to be out permanent form of Government – just as it was for AH. The vaccines are political, not medical and the end game is a planned health/control nightmare for all of us. Say what you like but they must have been planning this down to the last detail for decades! It all started the fist day Cultural Marxist ‘ Political Correctness was injected into the body politic by Blairism . Look where it… Read more »
Find it hard to disagree with you – unpalatable though what is coming down the line feels like.
What is wrong with these people?
‘F##k you’ reply the Docotors ‘I’ve got bonus payments to collect for dishing these bad boys out’
It doesn’t take a scientist or researcher to know that mandating any medical treatment via the threat of exclusion from society is unethical. Yet late last year Johnson proclaimed on the telly that many of the things we enjoy will become conditional on being jabbed. The EU has a consultation out to extend its jab pass scheme for another year from June 2022. Why, at a time when the latest variant is in retreat on the continent (it must be thus because the entire EU is coloured green compared to orange – which the UK is – on France’s border control)? Because they intend to continue using it and reinforcing it later in the year when the next variant arrives (cue dake panic, propaganda, blaming the unjabbed etc). Otherwise they’d rescind the scheme entirely now. It’s illogical to extend the use of something beyond the supposed need it was introduced for. But then it was an EU policy to introduce jab passports before the lab released virus hit our shores. In the UK we are in a fight for our lives, livelihoods, rights, history and culture. The supposedly conervative govt is seeking to dismantle the right to dissent online at… Read more »
It is pretty grim.
The legislation they are pushing through will of course be selectively enforced.
So BLM and the ecotards will be allowed to protest all they want but if you are an anti lockdown protestor protesting against your right to protest being removed you will get your skull cracked by the police.
Vaccines are “Scientifically Questionable and Ethically Problematic”
No.
Unquestionably Harmful and Unethical.
Before this past 2 years I took vaccines without question to travel etc, likewise my child was vaccinated with the usual things and also for travel, likewise if sick and it was necessary to see a Doctor I took the medications prescibed. When the Covid 19 vaccines were introduced, I was suspicious of how a product which normally takes several years to trial and test could be bought to market in a matter of months, and utilising a new novel technology that had in the past failed and caused death in lab animals. I had already been ill in 2019 December, I was working in Milan and had a cough and bad cold symptoms which did not confine me to bed, but the cough lingerered for several weeks. I have since remained Covid free and have not taken any of the novel vaccines. My point is as a result of the rush to market and then the subsequent force, lies, incitement to hatred by politicians and their advisors across the western world, In March 2020 I started to examine the stats, the medical papers, listen to the voices of those scientists who were once esteemed in their field but who… Read more »
“After what I have seen with Covid 19, I now do wonder if the scientists who linked MMR with Autism were actually on to something.”
I think the short answer Hester is “Of course they were”.
Check out Del Bigtree and the Highwire podcasts he does. He has been all over this for years.
Andrew Wakefield made the unfortunate error that he included a conflict of interest in the way in which he went about his research. When MSM, Big Pharma and all the other main players found that they let out a giant sigh of relief and went hell for leather to discredit his research – otherwise the MMR and other jabs were going to go out of the window as being distrusted by parents and the profits of Big Pharma were going to plummet.
You know the old saying, if you are hovering close to the target they will take you out.
This has all made me examine much of what Pharma has done over the past 20 or so years. It’s a horror story. Best way to stay healthy is to keep out of their clutches.
They are correct. My trust in the NHS and Big Pharma is at an all-time low. I won’t be going anywhere near them. Thankfully I am a qualified medical herbalist so in most things I can treat myself successfully. Plus I’ve been in contact with covid so many times over the last two years and had no symptoms whatsoever, that I see no point in accepting a vaccine. My natural
immunity is working well.
Vaccines already are mandatory for certain things in certain places, like foreign travel, school attendance in some countries etc.
Germany, where school itself is mandatory, passed a law in 2019 that all children had to be vaccinated against measles to attend kindergarten or school, plus all teachers and all health and care staff. Measles – from which on average one person a year dies in Germany… And because you can’t get the measles vaccine by itself, you have to be vaccinated against mumps and rubella at the same time… So there people already have to share their “health” data with public institutions and politicians didn’t bat an eyelid. I know, because I attended my (back then) local parliamentarian’s surgery on the issue.
Also we had mandatory vaccination for smallpox for many years in the 19th century. It’s not new, but it failed so miserably and caused so much suffering that it was eventually ditched. And still we believe the myth that smallpox was eradicated by vaccination. It’s all madness.
‘Get the vaxx or get the axe’ mandates in the workplace are slowly being wound back even in Covid-crazy Australia. The police force, the schools, the hospitals are all realising that locking out many of your best, most experienced workers for being unvaxxed is creating, wait for it ….. workforce shortages!
So, its welcome back to the unclean. But, but, but …. they must wear a mask at all times and test negative twice a day to be able to set foot in the office/classroom/patrol car. Must keep dehumanising and stigmatising the non-compliant!
Always interesting to get your updates from Aus…..the testing oc just helps to keep the merry go round in permanent motion!
”… say researchers…” being paid for stating the bl**ding obvious, yet again.
Let’s stick with the ethics for a minute.
It will never ever be acceptable for governments to force individuals to inject the product of a private company into their bodies and make them pay for the privilege. If you can’t see that this is wrong then you are lost. And let’s be clear that is pretty much what all countries have done using fear and coercion. Utterly disgusted with pretty much all so called world leaders at this point.
Vaccine mandates are undemocratic, anti- libertarian, outrages. Any politician who tried to introduce them or voted for them should be tried in a Nuremberg- style court for crimes against humanity.