Zero Covid Zealots Try to Rewrite History

This week, Zero Covid proponents such as anthropologist Devi Sridhar have been out in force to try to save their legacy and regain control of the narrative by rewriting history. Toby Green in UnHerd takes them to task.

The past two days have seen sorties from scientists desperate to shore up the lockdown version of history. Lockdowns were necessary, and anyone who disagrees does not care about society or equality. This version of history is so fraudulent that it cannot be allowed to triumph.

Writing in the Guardian yesterday, Devi Sridhar asks: “Why can’t some scientists just admit they were wrong about Covid?” Why indeed? Sridhar notes that scientists have divided into opposing camps, taking “particular pandemic positions…eventually building a base of followers that organise around that position and defend it viciously.” She just doesn’t seem to recognise that this neatly describes her own approach.

Sridhar’s piece is a craven attempt to rewrite history by claiming that the Zero Covid position was only ever intended for the pre-vaccine era. Can this be the same Sridhar who said in a New Statesman interview in January 2021 that “the better option is to eliminate the virus” – even after vaccines had started to be rolled out? Or who tweeted in June 2020 that “the fastest way to get economy & normal life back is to push for a ZERO Covid Britain. Clear virus, build domestic economy”? Still, as far as Sridhar’s concerned, if anyone got anything wrong, it wasn’t her.

Green also notes that Independent SAGE member Kit Yates claimed in the British Medical Journal this week that lockdowns were necessary to protect the NHS and vulnerable members of society. Those who disagree with this, he argues, do not “place the lives of the most vulnerable high on their list of priorities” or “place a high worth on the long term health of their population”. Green is having none of it.

Sadly for Yates, his article was published on the very day that Sir Chris Whitty admitted that the long-term health of children had suffered and their life expectancies were lower through increasing obesity brought on by lockdowns. With NHS cancer backlogs projected to last for a decade, it doesn’t seem that this “long-term health of the population” and “protecting the NHS” works out very well for Yates and his ilk. …

Meanwhile, 40% of Covid deaths in the West took place in care homes. Far from protecting the vulnerable, lockdown policies did not even protect the most vulnerable. Meanwhile, they have rendered hundreds of millions of people newly vulnerable. That is their legacy, and those who advocated hardest for them must not be allowed to escape it.

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Woodburner
Woodburner
4 years ago

Guardian. Says it all.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago

The Graniad is always first for fakenews.

Trabant
4 years ago

I could respond to your “Graniad” with my “Grannyad” but would be invoking Muphrey’s Law.

Julian
4 years ago

anyone who disagrees does not care about society or equality”

Well I am not at all sure I care about society or equality, certainly much less than I care for myself and my immediate family. I suppose I care about society and equality in so far as those things affect my own quality of life. I am afraid I am now very wary of anyone who claims to altruistically care about society and equality to the detriment of their own wellbeing, especially when that “caring” involves poking their nose into my business/screwing up normal human life for everyone.

chunky lafunga
chunky lafunga
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Exactly. ‘Society’ stopped giving a chuff about me a long time ago, and me about it.

olaffreya
olaffreya
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Just pure inane sophistry – ‘does not care about society or equality’ is meaningless without context. The context is that the old and frail can be protected, but not by lockdowns and nonsense restrictions but by investment in their care and support. Just lost a good friend this week – end of life and covid on his death certificate. The struggle we had in getting his needs met by the NHS was harrowing and he suffered needlessly. Did he die of covid? No; he caught it in hospital and was already seriously unwell. Sridhar and her ilk are the problem and the ones who do not care about society and equality as they have no idea of what that actually means and is.

steve_z
4 years ago

World renowned ‘scientist’ Devi Sridhar slagging off other scientists in the Guardian. If she’s so sure of herself why doesn’t she write an academic paper? She could get Owen Jones and Piers Morgan to review it

Boomer Bloke
4 years ago

I would be interested to know what her credentials are for holding forth on science. I wonder if she can define what a woman is.

Hopeless - "TN,BN"
4 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

I daresay she’s a top-notch academic, even if an American who’s beguiled Caviar Sturgeon, but she knows sweet FA about that on which she seeks to domineer and pontificate. As with so many of these people now rewriting and, to a tiny degree recanting, she is wholly deficient in both humanity and honesty.

A copper-bottomed creepy person, who I could imagine hanging around Biden and Fauci, if that role wasn’t already packed out with Devi clones.

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago

If someone has to guilt trip people into agreeing with them, one can safely assume they have no real argument. What if people do not place the lives of the vulnerable high on their list of priorities? The reality is, most of us (in truth: all of us) place the lives of those we hold nearest and dearest highest on the list of priorities. If there is someone vulnerable amongst them, then yes, we would set greater store by looking after the vulnerable, simply because it hits closer to home. Looking after the vulnerable is a fine ideal, but it seems to imply that all priority should go to them, and no attention should be paid to those not deemed vulnerable. The non/less-vulnerable in society also need looking after lest they become vulnerable. And if the strong become vulnerable, who is left to look after the vulnerable? It is a simplistic notion stated by people who themselves probably couldn’t care less about anyone else, only proclaiming their love for mankind when necessary to fool gullible, sentimental people into giving them something they want, usually power and access to someone else’s money. As for Shridhar – surely even an anthropologist should… Read more »

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

“if you don’t agree with me then you don’t care about grannies” – its about the nadir of the scientific method and rigorous debate.

Kit Yates is a fraud – he/she/it doesn’t have a proper argument. If it did, then it would use it

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

I don’t agree with him – and he and his sort killed all the grannies anyway.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

This is especially evil since lockdown did kill Granny and tortured those not immediately killed

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

If someone has to guilt trip people into agreeing with them, one can safely assume they have no real argument.

Absolutely, but rather than just safely assume, one might need to rebut it as the pathetic ruse that it is.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Some total Cnut should write a paper on tidal elimination.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

No wonder she’s the go-to guru for Oberleutnant Krankie.

steve_z
4 years ago

Kit Yates paper referenced above

“Despite the clear downsides, there is still a strong argument to suggest the first lockdown was necessary in order to save lives and to prevent the NHS from becoming even more overstretched than it eventually was. Modelling from Imperial College London suggested at the time that………” – no point reading further.

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago

I seem to remember Unherd removing 400 comments (where comments are usually polite) when she was interviewed by Freddie Sayer in the summer of 2020. A remarkable number of people were already on to her – but she is a fragile thing.

sophie123
4 years ago

1) she is not a scientist
2) she told children on Newsround that the Covid-19 vaccines are 100% safe, that children should have the vaccine to protect their parents, and that the benefits to children outweigh any risks

She should never show her face in public again. And be made to look at the photos of the dead and injured children every day and think about what she has done.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Why do you think left-leaning champions of equality would care about individual people? Shridhar would probably put them (the photos) in an album to boast about her achievments in this respect.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

all her slaves will be equal.
She will just be more equal.

RW
RW
4 years ago

Retry as that’s really fundamental: The notion of human equality as a goal to achieve is fundamentally inhuman because it’s based on denying that humans are naturally unequal, ie, that individuals are actually individuals and valuable as such, instead of being faceless (worker) robots all cast from the same mould.

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

she puts photos of her dinner on her twitter feed

she has no background in any of this apart from being a friend of the clintons

she is self-promoted far beyond her limited abilities. a charlatan and a liar. her method of trying to get people on her side is to have a rainbow badge and be solidly on the left. there’s no way she knows what a woman is. it would alienate her retarded supporters

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

there’s no way she knows what a woman is

I’m pretty sure that she wouldn’t want to bed a self-declared trans-woman. That’s something other people are supposed to believe in.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

she is self-promoted far beyond her limited abilities. a charlatan and a liar.

No wonder she and Sturgeon are besties.

RW
RW
4 years ago

anyone who disagrees does not care about society or equality

I do care about society, just not about the kind of society Kit Yates would like to see our’s transformed to. And people are not equal. Claiming otherwise is denying their individuality and any value derived from that as this boils down to considering them nothing more than livestock. Less than livestock, actually, because non-human animals are supposed to have individual rights(!).

Bobby Lobster
Bobby Lobster
4 years ago

She looks like she has very long covid. Maybe she is just losing the argument.

NeilofWatford
4 years ago

Folks, you’ve really got to read and share this. For my money, it’s the most plausible explanation of the WEFs grand scheme that I’ve read, real food for thought. Endorsed by one Robert Malone too. https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/uncovering-the-corona-narrative?s=r

Judy Watson
Judy Watson
4 years ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

Only one word for Dr Malone WOW definitely food for thought.

Thank you Neil

huxleypiggles
4 years ago

Well good on DS and Will for putting this up. Sridhar is a horrible piece of work, the very definition of an oxygen thief.

Now how do Sridhar and Yates reverse ferret again when Billy’s new brew gets released?

Fortunately these pronouncements confirm that they are decidedly not worth the time of day and from here on their pronouncements are worthless.

At least Will provided a chuckle.

Cheers.

Vir Cotto
4 years ago

If I recall correctly, we’ve got a couple among us that have been ‘keeping a list’ of these people from the early days. I think it’s time to put all this together in a single page to never forget their names and roles.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago

“Sridhar was born and raised in Miami, Florida in an Indian family.
Born 1984, she is an American public health researcher, who is both professor and chair of global public health at the University of Edinburgh, Scotland.”

“Sajid Javid (born 1969) is a British politician who has been Secretary of State for health and Social Care since June 2021.
Born in Rochdale, Lancashire, to a British Pakistani family.”

“Mair Eluned Morgan, Baroness Morgan of Ely (born 16 February 1967) is a Welsh Labour politician serving as Minister for Health and Social Services in the Welsh Government since 2021.”

Judy Watson
Judy Watson
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

How do some of these thickos get these jobs?

Moderate Radical
4 years ago

Here’s a conundrum for you. Who’s the most loathsome out of Devi Sridhar, Nicola Sturgeon and Jacinda Ardern? I think we can safely say that, loathsome as she is, Sridhar has to come third, but for the life of me I cannot choose between Sturgeon and Ardern. These have to be the two most most revolting women in politics.

Since I posed the question, I’ll opt for Ardern, with Sturgeon a close second.

And for good measure, check out this nonentity. Apparently a former ‘Conservative,’ this deranged specimen embodies all that is dumb and wrong with contemporary culture and politics.

Whoever coined, and I paraphrase, ‘If women ran the world everything would be wonderful’ needs a dry slap. Ditto everyone who repeats it.

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
4 years ago

That drooling imbecile used to be my MP.

The electorate punished the Tories by electing a Labour MP in the by-election that followed her resignation because she hadn’t been made a minister.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

“Mensch erroneously stated that Piers Morgan had written in his autobiography about conducting phone hacking while he was the editor of the Daily Mirror.When challenged on CNN by Morgan, Mensch cited the protection of parliamentary privilege and declined either to withdraw the allegation or to repeat it. She later apologised to Morgan, and stated that she had misread a newspaper report about his book.
Three days after the hearing, Mensch received an email that alleged, among other things, that she had taken drugs and danced while drunk with violinist Nigel Kennedy at a club in Birmingham in the 1990s. Mensch publicly released the email, stating that the allegations were “highly probable” but said that she regretted only that others had to see her dancing and that she would not be deterred from asking further questions about phone hacking. Members of the Parliamentary committee denounced the attempt to intimidate Mensch, who subsequently admitted in The Sunday Times that she had used class A drugs

Moderate Radical
4 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

You poor souls. Did you all throw a party when the fruitcake emigrated to the US?

John Dee
4 years ago

Didn’t the Greeks reckon there were three Harpies?

Moderate Radical
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Ah yes, the female monsters of Greek mythology. I’m not sure it was strictly three, but yes, we have three harpies above, four including the lunatic in the attached screenshot.

Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
4 years ago

Ardhern, because she’s always chomping at the bit.

Nipoleon would be equal second with, a glaringly omitted, Fond-of-Lying.

Dreary, disastrous Devi wouldn’t even make the podium, in lowly fourth.

Moderate Radical
4 years ago

Fair enough. Who am I to argue with you, my friend? I’ll take that.

Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
4 years ago

Thanks, MR.

To be fair, all four of them make my skin crawl.

Moderate Radical
4 years ago

I know what you mean. Ghastly creatures.

RW
RW
4 years ago

The we is noteworthy here. So Mensch is now in the Ukraine and fighting? Somehow, I don’t reallty believe that.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago

Blimey, she’s a sandwich short…

crazypaving17
crazypaving17
4 years ago

I’m not a violent person but it would take
significant personal restraint not to repeatedly punch the utter c^%t Yates should I ever have the misfortune of being anywhere near him. What a contemptuous, snivelling little shit he is. As for Schrider, she’s a narcissist who just seeks out attention, however it comes. Any attention is good attention for a narcissist like her. Lacking in self awareness and empathy, she’s a vacuous void.

Sforzesca
Sforzesca
4 years ago
Reply to  crazypaving17

For God’s sake don’t hold back – just say what you really mean.

thinkcriticall
4 years ago

The long march through the institutions…

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Emerald Fox
4 years ago

“A professor has called out Good Morning Britain after her full title was not shown on screen but her male counterpart’s was.
On the ticker displaying information about the guests speaking in a debate about coronavirus, professor of oncology Angus Dalgleish was labelled as such whereas professor Devi Sridhar, who is also the chair of global public health at Edinburgh University, was labelled as just Devi Sridhar.”

https://www.indy100.com/news/gmb-today-professor-devi-sridhar-b1940888

thinkcriticall
4 years ago

Don’t forget this purveyor of falsehoods: Dr Hilary Jones.

https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/07/12/dr-hilary-dangerous-lies-and-big-pharma-ties/

Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
4 years ago

An excellent piece from citizenjournos.

https://citizenjournos.com/2021/11/17/devi-sridhar-gets-it-wrong-again/

This all points to Devi not being about the truth and facts but being all about the narrative and agenda.”

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago

We live in a world where what is normal is defined as extreme and what is extreme is defined a normal.

Julia Hartley-Brewer challenges Rishi Sunak: ‘Define what a woman is?’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpDQpWiPbB4
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Moderate Radical
4 years ago

Legend has it Sturgeon’s husband walked into a pub one night looking sad. The barman asked him what he was having, and he replied, Oh, just a beer.’ The barman said, ‘What’s wrong, big man?’ Scotland’s male first lady replied, ‘My wife and I got into a fight, and she said she wouldn’t talk to me for a month.’ The man behind the jump said, ‘Aye? So what’s wrong with that?’ And he replied, ‘The month is up tonight.’

Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
4 years ago

Nicola Sturgeon is touring Perthshire in the First Minister’s chauffeur driven car.

Suddenly a cow jumps out into the road. They hit it full on and the car comes to a stop.

Nicola in her usual jaunty manner, says to the chauffeur :
“You get out and check – you were driving.”
The chauffeur gets out, checks and reports that the animal is dead.
“You were driving, go and tell the farmer,” says Nicola, ”I can’t afford to be blamed for anything.”
The chauffeur walks up the drive to the farmhouse and returns five hours later totally plastered, his hair ruffled and with a big grin on his face.
“My God, what happened to you ?” asks Nicola.
The chauffeur replies : ” When I got there, the farmer opened his best bottle of single malt whisky, the wife gave me a slap-up meal and the daughter made love to me.”
“What on earth did you say?” asks Nicola.
“I knocked on the door and when it was answered, I said to them, I’m Nicola Sturgeon’s chauffeur and I’ve just killed the cow.”

Moderate Radical
4 years ago

I don’t normally do this, but:

😂 😂 😂 😂

iane
iane
4 years ago

Well, I like fax, not vax!

oblong
4 years ago

My favourite picture of Devi. That poor frightened little rabbit look. Just before getting boostered. Lovely

civilliberties
4 years ago

Writing in the Guardian yesterday, Devi Sridhar asks: “Why can’t some scientists just admit they were wrong about Covid?”

reminds me of that meme whereby after taking 1,2 and 3 jabs the person looks at the unjabbed and says “just die already”

This re writing of history while looking stupid at the moment, is potentially going to get easier with tech advancing and for example paper book printing falling, you can just imagine a future whereby all news is digital and the unflattering narrative is erased for a new one.

Green also notes that Independent SAGE member Kit Yates claimed in the British Medical Journal this week that lockdowns were necessary to protect the NHS and vulnerable members of society. Those who disagree with this, he argues, do not
“place the lives of the most vulnerable high on their list of priorities” or “place a high worth on the long term health of their population

yes but restrictions have prevented precisely F*** all, I know people who are dying and a person who has passed because they did not recieve any treatment for 2 plus years.

Judy Watson
Judy Watson
4 years ago
Reply to  civilliberties

Sadly there will be many more stories like this

Moderate Radical
4 years ago

Slightly OT, but speaking of propaganda and utter bollocks, please tell me this isn’t Ukranian officials themselves taking a video game and claiming it’s actually happening in Ukraine, with the ‘heroes,’ naturally, being the Ukranians.

https://youtu.be/gG1prld0bAA

caipirinha17
caipirinha17
4 years ago

To me, DS looks like one of those folks who has never found any real joy in anything. Get her a proper meal with a lovely pudding and make her go for a walk on the beach in the sun.

marcusc
4 years ago

There’s a lampost with her name on it…