Government Criticised For Not Ruling Out ‘No Jab, No Job’ By Back Door

The Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) has been criticised by the House of Lords for failing to clarify whether thousands of carers who were sacked for not getting a Covid vaccine can have their jobs back and whether ‘no jab, no job’ for new health and social care recruits is being sneaked in by the back door. MailOnline has more.

The House of Secondary Legislation Scrutiny Committee has said there are still “a lot of loose ends that must be addressed”.

Up to 40,000 workers were effectively fired when the highly controversial “no jab, no job” policy was introduced in November.

Health chiefs then U-turned on the legislation, which was also going to be placed on NHS workers from April 1st. Hospital staff weren’t affected by the mandate because it had yet to come into force, but care homes had already been forced to get rid of any unjabbed carers.    

Industry bosses warned it was too late because many wouldn’t bother coming back to the hugely understaffed sector, which was already short of 100,000 carers before Covid struck.  

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville, one of the committee’s members, praised the DHSC for the information and scientific evidence behind the decision to revoke the jab mandate policies. But she said: “There are issues that still give cause for concern.”

In a memorandum provided to the committee, the DHSC said it is “engaging with the NHS” to review recruitment policy to consider “vaccination status” when hiring new staff.

Baroness Bakewell said that any such move “needs proper evaluation in light of the pandemic experience”. And she said it was “disappointing” that the DHSC remained silent on whether sacked staff can or should be reinstated. The DHSC said that the matter of rehiring staff was to be decided by “each individual employer”.

Why is the Government not making clear that now we are ‘living with Covid’ there is no place for excluding people from health and social care work due to their vaccination status? Ministers must ensure ‘no jab, no job’ is not being brought in by stealth, as it is unnecessary and detrimental to the sector.

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rtj1211
rtj1211
4 years ago

It’s very simple: you just tell any employer that managers will be locked up without trial in the same way as Assange, waiting an inordinate length of time in custody to be tried, if they don’t revoke all racist no jab, no jab mandates immediately.

I’d LOVE cutting NHS costs by billions by locking up thousands of useless paper pushers and accountants.

It wouldn’t surprise me if the electorate would enjoy it too…..

Paul B
4 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

Most of the electorate works for the NHS!

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

Or used to.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Replacements flooding in as we write!

marebobowl
marebobowl
4 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

The nhs gives me chills. It is a toxic organisation, mismanaged from the top do2n. Every consultant, gp and nurse knows this.

NeilParkin
4 years ago

The awkward bit is that if you say that ‘no jab, no job’ is pointless, then you have also said that jabs per se are pointless. Fortunately the media aren’t interested in the truth, so I expect it will sneak in at some later point, perhaps after a convenient war or something…

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Nicky Campbell from Five Live is a good egg, he will hold the powers that be to account!

TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
4 years ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

On the whole I like Campbell but my jaw would hit the floor if I heard him say anything negative about the jabs. Or indeed if I was allowed on the phone-in to say something critical.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenGoblin

Good point…I was being ironic.

TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
4 years ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

Poe’s law strikes again.

TheGreenAcres
4 years ago

I’m not a big fan of lawyers normally but in this case i’ll happily make an exception and would like to see legal action taken agaisnt any employer – public or private – who sacked anyone because of their vaccination status. No law had come into force and therfore the action was surely illegal?

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

Legal challenges were launched and failed, because their Lordships decided that while it was peacetime-unlawful, don’t you know there’s a war on?

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

And they will continue to hold that position on this issue for all time i am afraid

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Is that their Permanent War with Eurasia or East Asia?

watersider
4 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

Should that also apply to those air lines, shipping companies (not P and O obviously) colleges, church’s etc etc etc who “require” people to show proof of being inoculated before service?
Yes – let’s do it!

Dodgy Geezer
Dodgy Geezer
4 years ago

Your problem here is that the people making the decision are ALL fanatical jab-em-all extremists. In many cases their jobs depend on maintaining a cowed and jabbed population.

If the data showing excess deaths as a result of vaccination does not give them pause, do you think that logical argument will sway them?

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer

If the data showing excess deaths as a result of vaccination does not give them pause, do you think that logical argument will sway them?

That about sums it all up. Covid was always about the jab that doesn’t prevent anything and which if it doesn’t kill you right away will go on to destroy your immune system. Making a killing both financially and literally.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Neatly expressed!

watersider
4 years ago
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer

Dodgy,
See article on South Korea death rates above – the most jabbed country.
Incidentally where can I get the stats from North Korea? Oh sorry silly me live in Scotland.

Mark
4 years ago

Does that mean some of those numerous NHS employees who flocked to demos when their own jobs were at risk might return to demonstrating for freedom again?

Not saying there aren’t some great freedom-loving NHS workers regularly attending demos, but those few weeks when their own employment deadline was approaching saw numbers vastly up, based on my own experience.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago

“Why is the Government not making clear that now we are ‘living with Covid’ there is no place for excluding people from health and social care work due to their vaccination status?”

Especially when it is by now clear that the jabs not only DO NOT WORK and not only that but can cause a lot of harm?

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

That was my idea as well, when reading about the upcoming roll-out of the fourth same-old so-called vaccine. This time, nobody even bothered to put a statistic together whose correlations are supposed to show a positive effect: For medicine standards, these jabs have an extremely large amount of serious side-effect while an at least somewhat watertight proof that they’re also actually good for something simply doesn’t exist. But let’s needle all those pensioners once again, they’re not going to act up!

Anything which doesn’t outright kill the overwhelming majority of the people it’s being used on can become a very successful medical product.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

“A lot of harm” that is it stimulates cancer growth, causes strokes, embolisms heart attacks, blood clots, neurological disorders, organ failure, immune system collapse etc etc, and …death . The only people who don’t now seem to know this appear to be all, politicians, all “journalists”and all big tech and social media corporate employees.

Johnson still pushing his ‘ boosters’ and promising more at Spring Conference I see. I should have thought that Conservative Party membership had been depleted sufficiently already!

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

I think the branding of it as a “Spring booster” is disgusting – a lot of old people will mistake it for something healthy.

RedhotScot
4 years ago

Why is the Government not making clear that now we are ‘living with Covid’

That’s an easy one. The government doesn’t have a clue what it’s doing, about anything. Not Covid, not NetZero, not Ukraine, not race issues, not gender issues, not inflation, not climate, not energy……..absolutely nothing!

Vaxtastic
4 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Thank you. I am glad someone gets it. The key characteristic of government is incompetency. They are hopeless even at things we nominally want them to do.

The endless conspiracy theories about which leading politicians are in the pay of the Illuminati completely overlook how damaging the existence of government is to anything resembling normality. Even local authorities and other smaller agents of government. There is no market test for anything they do.

Truly clueless.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Government incompetence tends to be indistinguishable from malice. – Beowulf’s First Law

Vaxtastic
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

But nonetheless often is incompetence and not malice. The cure for each is different.

Rogerborg
4 years ago

I think the zeitgeist here will turn out to be accurate: that while Savage Jabbit announced an end to mandatory jabs-for-jobs, that it would become a contractual requirement imposed by Trusts.

If you don’t like it, start your own National Health Service, I guess.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

I just may,

Pirate Health Service off the coast?

Milo
Milo
4 years ago

I’ll join you – can’t be worse than what is currently on offer to us from the ever dwindling N.o H.elp S.ervice!!

Kate and Victoria might also be interested

jingleballix
4 years ago

University medical students are mandated to have a jab.

Friend’s daughter – didn’t mind, in fact she was ardently pro-jab and saw it as an unequivocal duty – so she had three jabs……

……..but she’s currently, not allowed into school…….because she has C-19!

I am wondering how she is mentally processing this.

Vaxtastic
4 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

Haphazardly, no doubt. Cognitive dissonance has been understood since 1957.

People who make emotional decisions are not brought back from the brink by rational arguments. Severe illness, difficulty conceiving children or some other personal calamity will be what it takes. In five to ten years she will be treating patients; worrying.

TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
4 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

No vaccine is perfect, don’t you know!

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenGoblin

But some vaccines are far less perfect than others!

Moderate Radical
4 years ago

Just read these three paragraphs (with added bold throughout): Up to 40,000 workers were effectively fired when the highly controversial “no jab, no job” policy was introduced in November.Health chiefs then U-turned on the legislation, which was also going to be placed on NHS workers from April 1st. Hospital staff weren’t affected by the mandate because it had yet to come into force, but care homes had already been forced to get rid of any unjabbed carers.    Industry bosses warned it was too late because many wouldn’t bother coming back to the hugely understaffed sector, which was already short of 100,000 carers before Covid struck.   What do you say to this? In a breathtakingly malicious move even for this occupying regime, care homes took a devastating knock and tens of thousands of staff lost their jobs, while the sainted hospitals swerved losing tens of thousands of staff. Isn’t that a daisy? Of course many won’t bother returning to a sector that regarded them as expendable, to be cast out when the wind changes course. These people went from heroes to be all but worshipped to social pariahs. The lot of them should tell their former bosses to go and whistle Dixie if they are… Read more »

civilliberties
4 years ago

Up to 40,000 workers were effectively fired when the highly controversial “no jab, no job” policy was introduced in November.Health chiefs then U-turned on the legislation

It looks dodgy as sin, firing people and then saying “er, sorry about that, we won’t do it again” says to me it was planned that way.

Vaxtastic
4 years ago
Reply to  civilliberties

It says to me the state responds to fear. The run in with Steve James was only one of many incidents, but it went viral. The government runs on managing opinion. When they fail in this they back off. That’s the lesson.

TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
4 years ago
Reply to  civilliberties

Nah they’re not that smart

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  civilliberties

Of course this was planned.

watersider
4 years ago
Reply to  civilliberties

PeeandOh anyone?

B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago

Why is the Government not making clear that now we are ‘living with Covid…’

You neglect to clarify that ‘living’ is here being used in its strictly transient sense, and is strictly time limited. The duration of this current ‘Inter Coronas’ will be therefore be dependent on the state of play in the manufactured Ukraine crisis, the onset of the annual flu season (to assist fake NHS stats), and the weekly reports from behavioural psychologists as to when the UK’s Gullibility Index (known as GI in the cabinet office) is likely to rise over 80% again. I’ll put a fiver on October 2022.

Vaxtastic
4 years ago
Reply to  B.F.Finlayson

I’ll second this motion. I’m predicting the first tendrils of nudgery about August. Stepped up a gear in September. Then full speed Behavioural Insights-driven propaganda by October.

Hopeless - "TN,BN"
4 years ago

Addendum :

The telling comments are in the concluding paragraphs of the Eugyppius article.

Paul B
4 years ago

Nadal’s having breathing difficulties apparently, I’m hearing that Novax Djokovic has sent his regard, especially after Nadal was so very concerned for his jab status.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

Novax will be rubbing his hands together in anticipation of the French Open (if, of course, they let him in) and Wimbledon, although unless Nadal is able to access some kind of miracle treatment by then to undo his jabs he might not be able to enter either of them.

ImpObs
4 years ago

Why is the Government not making clear that now we are ‘living with Covid’ there is no place for excluding people from health and social care work due to their vaccination status? Because they know the WHO, and their “Global Partners” (including the UK) are drawing up a legally binding, international “Health Treaty” for the new biosecurity state, no doubt where “Mandatory Vaccination” can be enacted under the guise of a declared “Health Emergency” where we can’t argue in domestic law courts about it, because the Gov signed away any legal defence under cover of a “Global Pandemic Treaty.” Regardless of what happens next in the continuing COVID saga, though, the erection of the biosecurity state continues apace. In fact, it is even helped along by the fact that so few are paying attention to this agenda now. Distracted by the pyrotechnics of warfare, the hoi polloi hardly notice that the European Commission is happily announcing their imminent victory in the war over the formerly free peoples of the world. By 2024, if all goes well, they will have their global pandemic treaty in place and absolute power to implement their will anywhere in the world at any time under… Read more »

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

I read that the PM over the weekend was pilloried for equating the EU with tyranny (when making comparisons between the situation in Ukraine and the difficulties the UK had with the EU and how important Brexit was)

If he thinks the EU was tyranny, and that we were lucky to be able to get out of it, how then could he even consider signing up the UK to the tyranny which will flow from the WHO proposals? signing away the UK’s sovereignty like that would not be a good look.

Why are you not ALL OVER THIS GB NEWS????

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

And then he had the brass neck to equate taking the vaccine for freedom because people don’t want to be told what to do, you couldn’t make it up.

watersider
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

GB News? Now sadly just another loudspeaker for the NWO joined at the hip with all the other Lugen Presse we only watch Nigel, Mark and Neil now.
A big disappointment for news

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  watersider

I watch Nigel and Neil – some Mark, Dan Wooton been disappointing of late and as for daytime GB NEWS – forget it.

But still – they could have the niche, now RT is gone, of challenging the narrative and being an alternative for the increasing number of people tired of the state and other broadcasters lies. Why blow that?

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

“The choice is ours. We can either go back to sleep and follow the shiny baubles of the latest breaking news on the MSM news feeds or we can continue to focus on the creation of the biosecurity state, build coalitions with those who are resisting it, and move forward with the creation of a parallel economy for overcoming our reliance on the state’s tools of coercion and control.”

He is right, but the creation of a parallel economy requires enough people to know that they need to create one and to work together to do it.

Does anyone know anything about this? It is one thing to say it needs to be done but it is a whole other ball game to start doing it and you cannot do it on your own you need to be doing it in concert with other like minded people.

ImpObs
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

It’s really difficult, the only working models I can think of are the LETS systems in Totnes, Lewes, Brixton, Shroud that sprang from the “Transition Towns” movement, there was also a model in Greece when the currency crashed you mite be able to find more on, it sprang up real fast, the people who did it produced a website.paper on how they did it at the time. corbett has some links on other systems under the “solutions” tab, mite take a bit of digging tho. It has to start local.

here’s some links from a quick search:
https://www.rapidtransition.org/stories/new-money-meets-the-cost-of-change-how-local-currencies-save-economies-and-communities-and-help-them-flourish/

http://reconomy.org/what-you-can-do/alternative-banking-and-currencies/complementary-currencies/

http://reconomy.org/what-you-can-do/alternative-banking-and-currencies/complementary-currencies/

https://www.transitionnetwork.org/sites/www.transitionnetwork.org/files/Transition%20currency%202%200%20proposal%20-%20summary.pdf

I’ve got a couple of books on alt currency but everything is still in storage, I’ve been out of the scene for 6 yrs, I had an accident, my project failed, ended up selling the land. (I felt like Casandra tbh) premaculture sites mite be able to help since it’s on the design course sylabus.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

Brilliant post ImpObs – thank you for all the links!!

I am sorry to hear of your troubles – last thing you would have needed would be a bogus pandemic on top of them.

NeilofWatford
4 years ago

Why? For the same reason the emergency powers remain in the long grass …
Johnson and the Reset Gang are still dancing to the WEF tune, awaiting the ext opportunity.

civilliberties
4 years ago

and whos going to fulfill the staff roles if un jabbed people are excluded? the NHS and social care is knackered as it is without banning people from working in them. If I was say dying and needed urgent medical attention, I would not care a less if someone has been triple jabbed or not, all I would prefer is not being dead if I was in that situation.

Vaxtastic
4 years ago
Reply to  civilliberties

Foreigners, that’s who.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

Johnson is planning to hand UK vaccination Health Policy and mandates over to the Gates owned WHO in a ‘treaty’- a power grab – which will give this totally discredited Globalist organisation total authority over those singing ( formerly independent) Nation States. So jabbing will be enforced by the self style “Vaccine Supremo” himself and Johnson can duck any responsibility as usual. The use of the Nuremberg Code defined “bodily autonomy” defence will likely be circumvented by Johnson’s insertion of the terms ‘in the public interest” and ‘for the common good’ into his rewrite of the Human Rights Act as a “Bill of Rights” which actually takes our rights away and could open the door to forced vaccination. Just as long as people understand this is where he is heading and how it explains the weasel words refusal ‘not to rule ou t’no jab no job’. I see the predicted ( by the “Awake’) epidemic of VAIDS following immune system destruction after Covid “vaccination” has been quietly admitted by the authorities – but hey, we are all far too busy cheering for the Extreme Right in Ukraine, and switching off our Central Heating in ‘solidarity’ aren’t we? I see the… Read more »

SimCS
4 years ago

I believe Florida have outlawed any such discrimination. It’s easy to do (or should be). So much shouting has been done by so many for every other type of discrimination, so you have to ask, why not for this, or are people so miffed because they’ve been misled into having the vax that they want to inflict it on everyone?

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  SimCS

Yes – everyone banging on about BLM and transgender rights (you can’t use the word “woman” any more for some reason which escapes me) but the right to bodily autonomy counts for nothing.

Do these people, without medical qualifications, who think that the jabs should be inflicted on everyone, irrespective of their choice or wishes, not realise that they themselves might not fancy what is in the next needle coming down the line, but they themselves are determined to create the precedent that ALL MUST BE JABBED?

JeremyP99
4 years ago

Sent 21st January to the EHCR using their online contact form

No reply. No acknowledgement.

At least it confirms my deduction that Covid has destroyed any sense that the public sector still had that it served those who fund it. They don’t give a flying.

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MrkMtchll
MrkMtchll
4 years ago

The government don’t care what you think is right.

marebobowl
marebobowl
4 years ago

What in the hell is wrong with this government. Everyone knows the vaccines simply do not work, cause severe adverse events and deaths and should be taken out of the market immediately! Nothing has changed. And yet this goofy gov’t is insisting on offering people a fourth dose of poison. Sinister, malfeasence behaviour. Who exactly is responsible for making these dangerous decisions. Decline any further experimental biologicals, you are witnessing the destruction of your innate immune system. This is called murder.

marebobowl
marebobowl
4 years ago

Wait a minute. Has this government been reduced to trickery? Vaccine mandates for healthcare workers in hospitals dropped. Is someone now saying they were not dropped? Has the government lied? What is so difficult about this? Who in the government is responsible for this confusion. Whoever it is better fix it and fix it fast or the nhs will see a very large group of healthcare professionals leaving. And right now with covid cases skyrocketing again because of useless experimental biologicals (another massive mistake by this government), this NHS is going to need every single healthcare provider they can get their hands on. Heard a commercial on the radio the other day, begging nurses to come back to the NHS. Why would anyone want to work for a gov’t agency that has to resort to trickery?

The only people we know getting covid right now are the TRIPLE JABBED!!!!! Surrounded by them here in Devon.