The Myth of the Hong Kong Covid Disaster

Covid alarmists are reporting on the situation in Hong Kong, claiming it proves them right in the measures they have backed over the past two years.

The latest reports are of overflowing morgues and a shortage of coffins. Here’s the report from MailOnline.

Morgues in Hong Kong are overflowing with bodies after a deadly Covid wave has forced workers in hazmat suits to dump corpses in shipping containers. 

Workers in full PPE gear were seen moving bodies covered in black tarpaulin from a truck into rows of shipping containers outside Fu Shan Public Mortuary on Wednesday.  

Hong Kong has recorded nearly a million infections and more than 4,600 deaths less than three months after the highly transmissible Omicron variant broke through. 

The bulk of the deaths has been from the city’s unvaccinated elderly population.  

A funeral industry representative told local media the soaring death toll had seen a crunch in the city’s coffins supply, with only 300 remaining and expected to be gone by the weekend.

Leader Carrie Lam acknowledged the supply issues during a press conference Wednesday, and said two more shipments of coffins will arrive in Hong Kong from the mainland soon.

The shocking images come just five days after bodies were seen lying abandoned on stretchers next to living patients in a Hong Kong hospital.   

A medic working at the hospital told Hong Kong Free Press the photo was taken inside the Accident & Emergency ward of Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Hong Kong and circulated on Friday.

The photo, reportedly taken in early March, showed six body bags lying on stretchers as bed-bound patients struggled to prop themselves up. 

Here are the pictures of shipping containers being used for bodies and bodies stored in bags on wards – presumably largely a consequence of strict Covid protocols that require those infected with Covid and the bodies of those who die with it to be kept separate from others.

The response to the situation from Covid alarmists has been both predictable and wrong.

Dr. Julian Tang, Honorary Associate Professor and Clinical Virologist at the University of Leicester, says it’s because not enough people were vaccinated with a good enough vaccine. Criticising the CoronaVac (Sinovac) vaccine for producing “no detectable neutralisation of Omicron”, he says: “Ideally, Hong Kong needs to boost or vaccinate all their citizens with the mRNA vaccines to better control the spread of Omicron.” Has Dr. Tang failed to notice that highly vaccinated countries like Israel and the U.K. have suffered at least as many Omicron infections as elsewhere? It’s incredible that scientists are still peddling the myth that the vaccines prevent or control the spread of COVID-19.

Dr. Adam Kucharski, an epidemiologist and modeller at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, took to Twitter to claim that the situation proved him right: “Given current situation in Hong Kong, it’s astonishing that there’s anyone still out there who thinks that not taking Covid seriously in 2020-21 would have worked out fine. [Hong Kong] is a reminder of what happens when there’s a large epidemic in a still susceptible population – so large epidemics in countries pre-vaccination wouldn’t have ended well.”

The reality, though, is that Hong Kong’s Omicron wave has been dropping fast for 10 days now, and deaths will likely follow shortly. Note that unlike cities in China, Hong Kong has not been locked down, and a ban on gatherings of more than two is only being brought in now (why do politicians bring in extreme measures when infections are dropping?), meaning lockdown can’t be credited with putting the outbreak into reverse.

Deaths in the city have admittedly been very high for the region, as the comparison to South Korea shows. However, the death count per million is still a long way short of the U.K.’s. The chart below also shows that the trajectory has been similar to the U.K.’s winter 2020-21 wave, albeit smaller and shorter. We don’t have excess mortality data for Hong Kong so don’t know the impact on the overall level of deaths.

If the city’s morgue’s are overwhelmed and coffin supplies depleted then there may be an in-built capacity problem, as the U.K., along with many European countries, had a proportionally larger wave in winter 2020-21 without suffering similar logistical problems.

Why is Hong Kong suffering a wave of deaths worse than its neighbours? The main suggestion is that it’s because only 30% of the city’s over-80s were double vaccinated ahead of the Omicron wave, plus the poor efficacy (particularly against Omicron) of the CoronaVac (Sinovac) vaccine. The data show that 70% of deaths have been in the over-80s (around 60% in care homes) and 90% of deaths were not double vaccinated (though that means 10% of deaths were double vaccinated, quite high given just 30% of the over-80s are double vaccinated).

The vaccine explanation is plausible. However, the most important factor is surely the presence of a susceptible elderly population, plus Hong Kong being one of the world’s most densely populated places. The city has also been vaccinating during the outbreak, which evidence indicates contributes to driving the spread. Despite this, the death toll is, as noted, smaller than the U.K. winter 2020-21 wave. The fact that infections are dropping now shows once again that lockdowns are not necessary for this to happen. Vaccinating the elderly population with a more effective vaccine may well have prevented many of the recent deaths, but that doesn’t mean lockdowns were justified or there is value in vaccinating the low-risk population. Hong Kong is not the disaster the Covid alarmists are making it out to be, and it certainly does not vindicate the extreme measures of the past two years.

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karenovirus
4 years ago

Question Dailysceptic Admin

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TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Seeing that on today’s news roundup, you have posted considerably more comments than everyone else put together (24 of 39), I’m surprised that you can’t see a possible correlation.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

Superficially a good point TBP but his has been a recuring issue for quite a while.
Todays input was over the course 4 hours when everyone else was asleep

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Gave you an upvote there as I was a bit confused as to why the downvotes!

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Thanks LG but I’m a big boy now and don’t get upset about a few downvotes any more.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Never understood the downvotes thing. Either argue against the point with which you disagree or move on.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Just posting a “good morning” will get you half a dozen downticks. There are some miserable trolls on here at times.

Never identify themselves.

Mumbo Jumbo
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The difference between watching youtube and commenting is the number of keystrokes you make. Each key press takes a bit of power.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The Daily Sceptic is sucking electricity out of your phone’s battery to help heat the horse stables of the owners.

hi60
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Huge if true.

Catee
4 years ago

It’s under chinese rule.. So either these are staged photos or it’s all gone to shit because it’s under chinese rule. Either way reflects badly on the CCP.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Mail Report

“Bodies dumped in shipping container” accompanying photo apparently illustrating this.

That is because such containers can be refrigerated at short notice. We have done the same in the UK.

Part of the “Covid is the biggest killer since The Black Desth” recovery plan was to commandeer a huge indoor go-kart facility because it is just a big aluminium box capable of being sealed and likewise refrigerated, fortunately never used.

Margaret
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

I agree that these look like staged photos. Not being unsympathetic but do those body bags in the foreground look a normal body shape to you? When I first glanced at the photo, I thought they were full of laundry waiting to be collected.

Margaret
4 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

I’m talking about that second photo.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Mandarin rule. China is no more homogeneous than Europe, and similarly when we say “EU” we really mean the Germans.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Disagree, the population of Hong Kong is about to be wiped out by the killer virus

Boris Johnson is the best Prime Minister we have ever had. A truthful honest man, a man who’s personal integrity is beyond reproach

Nadine Dorries is an intellectual giant

(This comment posted in compliance with The Online Harm Bill)

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Thanks Cecil B. Today has be a rough day (downunder) – I needed that!

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Um – has been (so rough I couldn’t manage the extra two letters …)

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

😀 😀

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

You scamp, you had me going there.

However, you forgot to proactively state that diversity is our strength as required by the UN Global Compact for Migration, so it’s off to the indefinite non-optional compassionate re-education facilities with you.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

The above comment should be removed as it does not show the required 5 minutes of hate for Putin.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago

Actually – quite bloody right. I hadn’t noticed. We need to be alert.

imp66
imp66
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

I’m a lert. I think that’s what my ‘accept everything the government and the NHS tells us’ work colleagues said…

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  imp66

That cracked me up. I’m sure you’re nowhere near old enough to be my father, but it’s what he used to say.

He enjoyed telling us that as “a lert” he was worried about the complacency he saw all around him. At the time, I found it very annoying.

Andy R
Andy R
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Did your dad ever follow that up with “the world needs lerts!”?

Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  imp66

We’re all lerts here.

ImpObs
4 years ago

I thought it was 2 minutes, damn inflation (obviously caused by Hitler Putin)

Julian
4 years ago

The only non-mythical Covid disaster is the one created by government stupidity and evil

TheGreenAcres
4 years ago

Are those pictures and reports SPI-B approved, or is the CCP the source of their inspiration perhaps?

stewart
4 years ago

why do politicians bring in extreme measures when infections are dropping?

That is what politicians do. They follow trends, push their way to the front and scream “I did that, I did that!”.

Mumbo Jumbo
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

One key press and 5 upticks shown, it must be your lucky day. Maybe risk a punt on the lottery!

John Dee
4 years ago

It’s incredible that scientists are still peddling the myth that the vaccines prevent or control the spread of COVID-19.

It’s only ‘incredible’ if you can discount that they’re likely chasing a nice fat endowment from Uncle Bill the Pharma Share Owner.

TheGreenAcres
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Having approved them in the first instance, they cannot now u-turn as that will bring uncomfortable questions as to why they gave them the nod in the first place. It is literally their entire raison d’etre that they ensure beyond any reasonable doubt that medicine and vaccines are safe before they approve them. They are effectively stuck in the hole that they have dug for themselves.

imp66
imp66
4 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

Or the 6 feet deep trench they’ve dug for the rest of us.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Just a reminder from my bookmarks

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They lied, locked down people died.

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Mark T
Mark T
4 years ago

In fact, Hong Kong has proved what we already knew, that NPIs – which were ruthlessly enforced in HK- merely delay rather than prevent COVID fatalities. Indeed, it looks like they have also suppressed natural immunity making things worse not better. The authoritarian tendencies in the civil service, whose main priority is not to upset the mainland, have totally wrecked the economy – at least in the short term – and caused undue misery. One country two systems and the worst of both.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark T

All NPI’s were introduced in order to undermine public health and I have been repeating this for months.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

What do we believe? A family member in NZ asked me at the start of the covid theatre in the UK about the mass graves here, she swore she had seen photo’s, my niece in the north east UK, was told that the cemeteries were closed so that they wouldn’t see the refrigerated lorries carrying bodies to the mass graves.

Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

And remember the hangars that were being set aside to accommodate all the corpses? And the plague pits that were being prepared?

robnicholson
robnicholson
4 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

Quite… overlooking the reports from funeral directors that it’s not been that much different than previous years.

HaylingDave
4 years ago

Hmm, with China in lockdowns, and then this “Covid disaster in Hong Kong”, I’m surprised the BBC haven’t trolled out some “experts” to hysterically proclaim the 8th coming of the apocalypse and that the UK should be driven back into stricter measures … NOW!

The zero-risk mask zealots have had a couple of months of pent up vitriol bile needing to spew forth … I can see this as the catalyst for the “No mask, no entry, no exception!” signs going back up, if the MSM decides to pump this story similar to India last April.

Sigh ….

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  HaylingDave

I’m surprised the BBC haven’t trolled out some “experts” to hysterically proclaim the 8th coming of the apocalypse and that the UK should be driven back into stricter measures … NOW!

Is it possible that they haven’t done so because they realise (through focus groups perhaps) that people are just fed up with all the COVID stuff – over it? At some point, do people not so much wake up as get tired of the same old story?

I may be clutching at straws here …

John001
John001
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Belated reply, I’m also sick of being pestered by the GP on flu jabs. Two wasted letters, two answerphone messages which I all ignored, then a phone call today which I took as I was in the house. I gave as frosty a response as I thought appropriate to a junor member of staff … poor buggers, they’re not the ones who make this policy up.

I wasn’t hassled in previous years. I may have had one letter offering the over-65s a flu jab …, then blessed silence. Of course I’ve never been asked to attend for a regular test for vitamin D, vitamin B12 or anything similar.

Nessimmersion
4 years ago

Given the overwhelming evidence of the effects of the vaxx on the immune system or the triple vaxxed constituting the vast majority of casualties from the Omigodicron, it would be relevant to know how many of the alleged victims in Hong Kong have been stabbed with the experimental medicine.
Unless we know to the contrary, thw logical conclusion must be that theyhave all been injected & had deficient immune systems.

MikeAustin
4 years ago

Just a minute. ‘Covid deaths‘? ‘Confirmed covid deaths‘?

In England & Wales up to 31st December 2021:

  • There were 1,200,004 deaths from all causes, or 20,058 per million
  • There were 156,924 deaths ‘with covid’ (deaths for any reason but following a positive test), or 2,623 per million.
  • There were 18,939 deaths ‘of covid’ (without pre-existing conditions but with co-morbidities) or 317 per million.
  • There were 6,183 deaths ‘only covid’ (covid the only entry on the death certificate) or 102 per million.

The quoted ‘confirmed covid deaths‘ are actually 25x ‘actual covid deaths‘. With the confounding factor of dodgy pcr tests in the mix, what use is comparing any of this with another country’s data?

We are talking about a so-called ‘pandemic’ that has been responsible for just 0.52% of all deaths in the population. This is all based on ONS statistics:

25‐Jan‐22 Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional
21‐Jan‐22 Pre‐existing conditions of people who died due to COVID‐19, England and Wales
17‐Jan‐22 COVID‐19 deaths and autopsies Feb 2020 to Dec 2021

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RW
RW
4 years ago

Per se, older people in care homes dying isn’t noteworthy. That’s what they’re eventually wont to do, sad as this may be for those directly affected by that[*]. Instead of calling this COVID deathtrap (the Swiss doctor, as of yesterday), one should assume that this is probably just an outbreak of COVID testing in care homes and possibly, some deaths being sped up by the resulting mistreatment/ abuse of care home residents who had positive test results.

[*] Besides my parents and siblings, I used to have two living relatives and I stood at the graves of both. That’s an absolutely shitty situation I do not care to ever repeat. Yet, I’ll very likely have to. That’s something we’ll all end up facing.

mojo
mojo
4 years ago

I really do not believe this or indeed anything that comes from mainstream anymore. We have all known for some time that Covid hasn’t been isolated so a vaccine is not feasible and it is a coronavirus which means the majority of people will survive. Personally I think we have now reached a point in propaganda and gaslighting that people will either be so very fearful of anything (including a scratch) or they will believe nothing.

The covid scam was nothing more than a vehicle to inject everyone with a lethal weapon. All Governments around the world know this and most have been more than happy to follow the Great Reset and genocide of Klaus Sxhwabb

janvanruth
janvanruth
4 years ago

once again the distinction between those that die from, and those that die with, is not being made.
all those frail elderly people died with but not die from…
the death rate of the old and frail probably has not gone up….

robnicholson
robnicholson
4 years ago
Reply to  janvanruth

The excess mortality rate is up over the last two years but it still lower than it was 10 years ago. So statistically not that different.

janvanruth
janvanruth
4 years ago
Reply to  robnicholson

i doubt it very much as the year 2012 had a historic low death rate, just about the lowest since 1950….

Paul Jackson
Paul Jackson
4 years ago

I am based in Hong Kong and have been commenting on the situation here in the very limited range of messaging and “social” media and website comboxes I engage with, since January 2020. Regarding the second image showing living and dead patients together. I know from personal experience before Covid that living patients in HK public hospital wards may spend many hours with deceased patients on adjacent or nearby beds even in “off peak” infection season, so the image does not surprise me. Regarding lack of lockdown. Partially correct, but the group size limit of two was introduced on 10 February, before deaths began to rise dramatically – albeit from a negligible baseline. Regarding Hong Kong government data. Until about 16 February 2022, HK death figures due to Covid appeared very solid – especially compared to UK and US. Deaths were credibly reported as “of” and not “with” Covid. There was no evidence of malpractice, such as excessive use of: do not resucitate instructions, midazolam, remdesivir, ventilators etc. Even up until the end of February 2022, the Department of Health revealed in a response to a Freedom of Information request that over two thirds – 67.6% – of all the… Read more »

misslawbore
misslawbore
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul Jackson

Very informative and very unsettling post

hi60
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul Jackson

A large number of (prudent) medical exemptions for Sars-Cov-2 vaccination are provided for in HK, to help explain the apparent lower uptake in the elderly. And if the recent increase can be assigned to incidental test results (clinically meaningless “with covid”), then there should be no issue with hospital triage, apart from policy of their own making.

Many regional countries data showed very low covid-19 stats up until mass testing was universally ramped up in early 2021, when vaccine roll-outs were also ramped up and hospitalisations and deaths coincidentally rose.

Paul Jackson
Paul Jackson
4 years ago
Reply to  hi60

Medical exemptions are in practice very difficult to obtain, because medical doctors who have been brave enough to write them have been hounded by the Hong Kong Medical Association, by the Hong Kong police and betrayed by “informers”.

Moreover, nobody anywhere should be coerced into taking any medical intervention against his or her will and without fully informed consent.

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