The Abandonment of Good Government in the COVID-19 Crisis

A new lockdown analysis by David Campbell and Kevin Dowd, entitled “Disregard of the Empirical; Optimism of the Will: The Abandonment of Good Government in the COVID-19 Crisis” has been published in the prestigious Studies in Applied Economics series from Johns Hopkins Institute for Applied Economics, Global Health and the Study of Business Enterprise. If this series sounds familiar, it is the same series that published the now famous article by Jonas Herbe, Lars Jonung and Steve Hanke that showed lockdown had little or no impact on COVID-19 mortality.

The accumulation of evidence that lockdown is a deeply ill-advised public health response threatens to leave the policy without anyone who will acknowledge their responsibility for it. Campbell and Dowd’s paper shows how shamefully slipshod the argument for lockdown was even at the time, in summer 2020, when it enjoyed the most powerful ideological and political support. Campbell and Dowd ask how it could be possible that a policy of this abysmal quality could ever be adopted. A widespread ignorance of the problems of determining whether the policy was needed or could even be implemented was, they suggest, subsumed under a fanatical commitment to political ‘will’ as the supposed solution of such problems.

The reason Campbell and Dowd’s paper appears only now is that, though it was originally commissioned for a special issue of a U.K. law journal, it was rejected by the permanent editorial board of that journal after what Campbell and Dowd describe as a wholly suspect reviewing process, which ended in no explanation for the rejection. Thus we have what appears to be yet another example of how the Covid disaster has involved a fundamental breakdown not only of good government but of public and academic debate, as views which challenge the manufactured consensus of ‘the Science’ are denied entry to such debate.

Read Campbell and Dowd’s paper here.

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ImpObs
4 years ago

Thus we have what appears to be yet another example of how the Covid

disaster has involved a fundamental breakdown not only of good

government but of public and academic debate, as views which challenge

the manufactured consensus of ‘the Science’ are denied entry to such

debate.

“A fundamental breakdown”

Like, it wasn’t already broken? Taxi for Climate Science, Taxi for Foreign Policy, Taxi for Gender Politics, Taxi for MPs expenses, Taxi for Cash for Questions/lobbying

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

Agreed, though I think the hysteria was more acute and more widespread than anything I have witnessed in my lifetime – basically mass insanity, which is still to a great extent ongoing, though lower key now (I’m sure if I emailed my work colleagues saying “the lockdowns and the “vaxx” and all the rest of it were bollocks, you’ve been had, I would be seen as mad, bad or both by most).

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Indeed. I tell anyone in a discussion about what’s gone on that the WHO opinion about lockdowns for pandemics is that they’re not the thing to do. The general reaction is ‘You must have misread that, ’cause why else would all governments have done it?’
Even the fact that Sweden chose not to do so seems to have escaped them.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

They have succeeded in creating a mood of deranged dis-association, alienation, fear and distrust throughout our fracturing society – well done Michie – your psyop induced chaos is surely on the way!

Meanwhile a local florist tells me she has never been so busy with funeral flowers.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

The media barrage of February 2020 was a full-scale propaganda onslaught by March.

I had seen scares before, and they always blew over, as the caravan moved on. But in March 2020, the caravan stopped. And people stopped listening to the voices of reassurance. That’s what we were back then, and they didn’t want it.

They wanted the hysteria; they supported the overthrow of standard practice. The hysteria became the contagion. My fear is that it may have become endemic. As intended.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Who can disagree?

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

What is the story behind the flowers? More funerals, more people attending, more people sending flowers, people sending bigger wreaths, or some combination? Certainly being deprived of the right to give departed family members a proper send-off during a lockdown will have had a lasting effect on many people, in many cases possibly bottled up. I can easily imagine people buying bigger wreaths now than they would otherwise have done, or perhaps attending funerals of less close friends or more distant family members that otherwise they wouldn’t have attended. The main reason would be to “compensate” – to use that word without any negative meaning whatever. Another reason would be simply to see people whom otherwise you might not see except at funerals. Deep down we pretty much all feel that another lockdown could be imposed at any time with little notice. Also all sorts of personal relationship problems were caused by the infernal lockdowns, which won’t disappear just because pubs and borders have reopened and you can do stuff legally now without a mask that previously you couldn’t. The ban on proper funerals was calculated to dehumanise people. Obviously if you hold the view (as I do) that pandemic… Read more »

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

“The ban on proper funerals was calculated to dehumanise people. Obviously if you hold the view (as I do) that pandemic policy was motivated by something completely different from a desire on the part of the rulers to protect the population.”

As I keep repeating, on here more than anywhere, all the NPI’s were introduced in order to harm both physically and mentally the health of the population. And they worked.

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

It was designed to prevent proper autopsies

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Agreed, though I think the hysteria was more acute and more widespread than anything I have witnessed in my lifetime – basically mass insanity

And then along came Ukraine.

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Agree absolutely. I started work throughout the Hong Kong flu outbreak in the UK of autumn/winter 1968/69. It was far worse that the recent kerfuffle but none of the hospitals or GP surgeries were shut down, nor was the rest of the country. The hysteria we have seen has been fanned by the 24 hour rolling news and antisocial media; which weren’t available back then either.
The paper by Campbell and Dowd should be Exhibit 1 for Lady Justice Hallett’s inquiry

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

Yes, lockdown put into practice what had been taught for decades, more than a century perhaps.

The doomsday cultism of lockdown already existed, having been taught by environmentalism.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

The liberal democracy (or rather, pollocracy) without human rights, where everything some poll finds support for can be done, and where BLM demonstrations and CSD parades can go ahead while ordinary citizens are being told when they’ll be allowed to leave their homes for which purposes, had indeed a new quality. The sophistic bigotry of defining vaccine coercion as something which causes people to get vaccinated voluntarily and which is thus absolutely not the same as forced vaccination was also on an unprecedented level.

This was/is the first time these people have openly shown their colours. Democracy was supposed to be the system of government which prevents this from happening due to its built-in respect for the individual. This myth has literally been wrecked. Susan Michie (example) is still out on the front lawn and still howling for the concept of humans as principally self-determined individuals to be abolished again because she strongly feels that’s just not safe.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

Democracy was supposed to be the system of government which prevents this from happening due to its built-in respect for the individual. This myth has literally been wrecked. 

I agree – reluctantly and sadly. The institutions meant to embody it folded, like a cheap and badly-written house of cards (I’m thinking of the English variety).

Hardly anybody seemed to give a damn. Those who did became the voices crying in the wilderness (feeling a bit biblical today). “Rugged individualists” put on masks because they were told to do so; not because they believed in their efficacy.

The liberal democracy (or rather, pollocracy) without human rights, where everything some poll finds support for can be done

And I agree about the effects of polls. If you’re getting away with it, it must be okay. Does anyone remember The Rise and Rise of Michael Rimmer?

RedhotScot
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Whilst I agree with you and all the preceding posters, the donning of masks, lockdowns, social distancing etc. had nothing to do with democracy or lack thereof. It was a fear narrative that was only made possible by the internet and, in particular, social media. The speed at which rumours circulated around the globe was faster than anything mankind has seen and certainly faster than covid. Indeed, covid was fear, not a virus. It crossed all political, social, moral and all ethical boundaries. It was predated on by opportunists who were very adept at recognising an opportunity to make a fast buck. Fear sells, so the media piled in to exploit the bonanza. Politicians made their run to press home their demands in a denuded and confused parliament. And of course, the social media barons seized the opportunity to shape society in their image. However, what it has done is wake a lot of people up to the societies meddling influencers, the Gates, Schwab’s and Soros’ of the world. I’m reasonably aware but wasn’t convinced these people were as destructive as they now clearly are. I’m not the only one to be enlightened. I’m still not convinced that they have… Read more »

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

The donning of masks, lockdowns, social distancing etc. had nothing to do with democracy or lack thereof. It was a fear narrative that was only made possible by the internet and, in particular, social media. Agree. The MSM played its part, too – of course; but then they feed and are fed by the internet and social media. However, what it has done is wake a lot of people up to the societies meddling influencers, the Gates, Schwab’s and Soros’ of the world. I’m reasonably aware but wasn’t convinced these people were as destructive as they now clearly are. I’m not the only one to be enlightened. I think so, too. It’s easy to be so exasperated by the ones who are asleep, that we underestimate the numbers of those who are awake and of just how awake they are! I’m having conversations with certain members of my family and some friends that are much more intense than they used to be – and they directly concern the nature of power. We do more research; we share more information. And yes – they do not control everything. If we believe they are omnipotent, it suits their interests – not ours.… Read more »

FrankFisher
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Because the checks and balances on government all failed, and by plan. The media are indistinguishable from the political class. NGOs are all fully captured by Soros funding. The legal system has been infiltrated to the same degree as academia by leftists and globalists. a “democracy” without an independent civil society is just another tyranny.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

Taxi for monetising public service post election loss….Taxi for post graduates morphing into “career” politicians with no real world experience….taxi for destroying the nuclear family post WWII….Taxi for failed EU autocracy…taxi for neutering UK Armed Forces….Taxi for Woke PC Bollox….Taxi for dysfunctional Civil Service……Taxi for corrupt Teaching Unions…..Taxi for the bought medical profession….Taxi for criminal Pharmaceuticals….Taxi for developing drugs that cause more harm

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

“The abandonment of good government” is permanent under the Johnson Emergency – it is after a pre-requisite of the ‘Great Reset’ being levelled against and imposed on the British people.

chris-ds
chris-ds
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

The Johnson emergency isn’t as strict as the Sturgeon or Welsh implementations.

Nitrambo
Nitrambo
4 years ago
Reply to  chris-ds

but possibly just as sinister ?

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  chris-ds

Mussolini was not so nasty a Fascist as Hitler – but they met he same end – one by his own hand the other by he hands of avengers.

Jon Garvey
4 years ago

How about the design of novel pandemic management, in the G W Bush administration, initially, under the auspices of military intelligence, bioweapons specialists, a rapacious pharmaceutical industry and a crooked US health bureaucracy under Anthony Fauci? Nothing much in the way of real public health or epidemiology.

Add in a corrupted WHO, bought media and globalist politicians all trying to sing from the same hymn sheet, seasoning from the CCP, and not much is left over to explain, except the willful blindness and abject obedience of most of the public.

The problem is that the same crowd still holds the reins and still has the same ambitions, to be pursued by whatever means replace a failing COVID narrative with another that will serve the same purpose.

jcd
jcd
4 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

War?

Jon Garvey
4 years ago
Reply to  jcd

Why not? Enriches the war barons, covers up the monetary collapse, assists the eugenic “overpopulation” agenda, enables totalitarian restrictions on a larger scale, and (with a bit of luck) ends up with a new world order.

Of course, if Eastasia wins, the plans get modified to cooperating with China to enrich the war barons, cover up the monetary collapse, etc, etc.

harrystillgood
harrystillgood
4 years ago

Wasn’t good government, of all party’s, abandoned long ago? Barring a couple of exceptions, governments across the world are led by idiots. Ultra low quality leadership. This seems to have coincided with the advent of political correctness and the kind of ‘new’ leadership that has delivered.

BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago
Reply to  harrystillgood

You have no real “leadership.” It’s all “followship” – groupthink writ large.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  harrystillgood

It is we their ‘Plebs” who are the idiots – look at the mountain of garbage fed to us by a controlled media most continue to swallow.

civilliberties
4 years ago

to late now, the damage is well and truly been done to economies etc,

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  civilliberties

Johnson’s new laws emasculating our Human Rights our right to demonstrate and the infantalising censoring of the internet will pass unnoticed by the plebs under the manufactured media smoke smoke-screen of the Ukraine conflict

chris-ds
chris-ds
4 years ago

Cancelled for being against the perceived consensus.

totally shameful that the 5th column was able to control so much using their 4th estate to frame consensus and shutdown debate.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  chris-ds

It was just a trial run -like the lockdown and the masks – they have got the hang of it now and are sure to make it permanent – like their ’emergency’!

chris-ds
chris-ds
4 years ago

It should be remembered that they work for us.

they only have the power because we give it to them.

They should be reminded of that at every opportunity.

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago
Reply to  chris-ds

So should citizens themselves. The number of people I’ve spoken to who seem to think that ‘they’ can just make these decisions and there’s nothing ‘we’ can say or do about it. Not so much because we can’t change anything, but because ‘they’ have the right to do so and ‘we’ must just do as we’re told.

The fact that ‘we’ pay ‘their’ salary, that ‘we’ have given ‘them’ consent to temporarily represent us and act in ‘our’ interests – far too few citizens understand this.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

As a matter of fact, that’s how things happen to be. Take Germany as example: The so-called voting system is ultimatively based on party apparatchiks compiling lists of party members they’d like to see in parliament, ordered from most preferred to least preferred. Voters are allowed to select the party list of the party they prefer. The outcome is a parliament with 3 – 5 factions of roughly the same size, none of which comes even remotely close to having support of the majority of the population. Technically, this is a parliament of groups who all lost the election as each individual one was rejected by a majority of the electorate. These groups of election loser than enter into negotiations to form some coalition government which ends up commanding a majority of the parliamentary votes and thus, can elect a Ministerpräsident (first minister of state) or Bundeskanzler. Until the next election, the government formed by this indirectly elected head politician can do whatever it wants, including, as recent events have shown, abolish large parts of the so-called constitution, as the assembled majority party group will nod it through due to the fact that individual MPs are required to vote how… Read more »

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

This is exactly what happens – as we clearly now see Germany is lost ‘Finis Germania”!

FrankFisher
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

Go on then, tell me, in detail, how you plan to go about exercising this power to constrain government?

Mike Oxlong
4 years ago
Reply to  FrankFisher

Hang the fucking lot of them.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  chris-ds

They do not work for us – they intend to make us their serfs.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  chris-ds

Naive, lovely, but naive.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  chris-ds

They are supposed to work for us, and they should indeed be reminded at every opportunity. Demonstrators in Oz regularly chant to police, “You serve us! You serve us!” We hope that it disturbs some – and it does.

But we only see the foot-soldiers. Real power means you rarely have to look at the faces of those you oppress – and you have people to deal with “complaints”.

The other problem is that we didn’t give them the power – they took it, while we were doing other things.

Taking it back is hard, but it has to be done. I, for one, don’t want to spend the rest of my life complaining about the good old days.

karenovirus
4 years ago

I’ve just seen the ITV Evening Lies about the mass sacking of 800 P&O Ferry staff in favour of cheaper agency workers.

Not yet blamed as a long consequence of Covid/Lockdown but wait for it.

Just the other day I posted here that I don’t feel properly abroad unless I got there partly by ship, life on the open breeze, but that loyalty, principally to P&O, evaporated to Zero at 11am this morning as the sackings took place

civilliberties
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

on LBC it says balaclava clad guards hauled the staff off, if true then if this does not show people the UK has descended into an authoritarian regime nothing will,

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/p-and-o-ferries-suspend-services-announcement/

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  civilliberties

Thanks, that finally got me to download the LBC app.

ITN 6 0’clock Lies report included P&O CEO(?) telling his X-staff, on Zoom, that they had lost their lobs by ‘way of redundancy’ but at the same time showing newly hired cheaper workers boarding the ships.

So there was no ‘redundancy’, the jobs were still there.
Massive unfair dismissal claims coming P&Os way methinks especially from the Engineer Zoom Sacked withoutout notice after 34 years service.

Just to avoid confusion; I am generally in favour of management doing what needs to be done but, in this case, it should be the shareholders paying the price of their incompetence, not the workforce.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Generally agree; however I don’t think this is the first time jobs disappear and new “roles” created simultaneously. This is a direct result of crass lockdown and travel restrictions destroying the travel industry as we knew prior to 2020 – which is a desire of the bollox CC/Green lobby who are very content to attend conferences abroad and drive across continents in diesel fuelled 4×4’s but want the plebs to staycation driving electic vehicles made of plant based material for the sake of sustainability.

Agree about unfair dismissal claims but I fear DP World will not have done this without carefully calculating the downside – and who is going to boycott Dover – Calais ferries with travel restrictions disappearing..?

ImpObs
4 years ago
Reply to  186NO

I suspect they can loot the pension fund to pay the new staff.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

How?

ImpObs
4 years ago
Reply to  186NO

same way Maxwell did to Mirror group, or some other scheme, there’s a lot at it

After Robert Maxwell looted the Mirror, companies were banned from borrowing from their pension funds. So how is BT, where pension liabilities are now 3 times as high as the company’s entire value, managing to get round this law? Full story in the new Private Eye, on sale now.

https://rantt.com/how-hedge-fund-billionaires-loot-worker-pensions

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/looting-the-pension-funds-172774/

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

Suggest you read up on Maxwell; situation with MGN Pension fund extremely unlikely, and nigh on impossible to repeat; Regulatory strictures are off the scale different now.

Pension fund valuation methodologies are not for this blog – legally moveable feasts within limits. Final Salary scheme valuations went from surplus to big deficit because of a technical change to valuation criteria in a short space of time relatively. There are ways in which pensions funds can be “looted” entirely legally if morally questionable; some would shock you, no doubt.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  civilliberties

All sorts of authoritarian opportunists are seizing the day. They are pouncing upon a people they see as easily frightened, gullible and submissive – because so many are.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

And when there is a major accident owing to an ill-trained workforce:

“Lessons will be learned.”

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Yup, see that coming a mile away.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

They simply don’t care – look what they have done to the NHS! Look what they did in the Care Homes!

They are even still injecting our children with their “experiment”!

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

They simply don’t care

They really don’t. I understand this now. They do not regard us as human beings worthy of the name. Humans have bigger bank accounts than us – much, much bigger.

“Human rights” is a joke term – perhaps since the day George Soros gave $100 million to Human Rights Watch.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The Corporates are all embracing the Schwab – Gates – Rothschild -Rockefeller Stake Holder Mafia capitalism – the new Covid Emergency Elite can do exactly what they choose with the new browbeaten slave force in a lawless environment – and are simply trying out their new powers.

Kneeler Starmer as a member of the Trilateral Commission, Common Purpose and enthusiastic supporter of the WEF is fully on board with this – as is his former “Labour” (sic) party.

We are on our own

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Ah yes, the Labour Party; apparently this was the party of the working man.

Anybody seen or heard of them lately?

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I believe some of the more sentimental appear at election times to shake the horny hands of the sons and daughters of toil – not that they’d risk that anymore.

civilliberties
4 years ago

well the irony of this,

https://news.sky.com/story/more-than-1-100-dwp-staff-at-risk-of-losing-jobs-as-government-closes-offices-12568351

I feel sorry for the staff but cannot wonder if complying to the dictates of the state has got them into this situation in the first place.

ImpObs
4 years ago
Reply to  civilliberties

In my experience, they could lose a lot more frontline staff who do little more than box tick, doubling up the work e.g. a couple is assessed as one unit for UC payments, but inteviewed seprately on different days by different people, doubling travel costs and duplicating the work. It could all be done by phone, or online eliminating the staff completely. We applied for a scheme last July which should have taken 3 months max to administrate, it could have been done within a week easily if they had the will to do it, it’s still not complete, due to incompetance, poor communication between public/private sector, and a complete lack of will to sort out their systems. If it had been done by September as was first stated,we would have been off UC before October. If the system was efficient, we could have been off it by August. I’ve had 3 “work coaches” and 3 “Business Advisors” none of whom had a clue about setting up a new business, they farm that out to private sector, which seems to be a sausage factory form filling/box ticking exercise to ensure you’ve watched a series of online tutorials all of which… Read more »

RedhotScot
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

I abandoned any hope of government help with setting up a business in the UK many years ago. As you describe, the business ‘coaches’ and ‘advisors’ I was required to consult before even being considered for any help were largely small time, failed ‘businessmen’ who attempted to preach utter nonsense to me and only demanded a business plan, in my opinion, to harvest ideas from some very clever applicants. One of my ‘coaches’ was one of the wealthiest men in the UK, recruited by a major institution. His single objective was to recruit people to work for him for nothing. I know that because he tried it with me. That same institution held meet a greet events where aspiring entrepreneurs could consort with entrepreneurs who had gone on to make it good. One I met was a Dragon, from the TV show, and to describe her as a self obsessed nut job who got lucky would be a masterly understatement. It wasn’t Deborah Meaden. Whilst I’m no business process conformist, this woman had no clue about marketing, production or distribution and was entirely ignorant of legal boundaries. It took me three minutes to unintentionally provoke her into a strop simply… Read more »

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

One I met was a Dragon, from the TV show … It took me three minutes to unintentionally provoke her into a strop simply by asking a couple of questions, which saw her storming off, loudly announcing her expertise in business – having risen from some menial job to make it big in a few short years with a wacky idea that has since died a rapid death.

I annoyed a similar individual by pointing out that what he was advising was, in fact, illegal. I did it very nicely – in a kindly, helpful sort of way – but he became quite flustered and I was never invited back.

ImpObs
4 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

It all sounds very familiar! One tried to encourage me into his franchised business, he got the hump when I said we’d be staying independent. One had a sideline printing business cards, he showed me one of his, I showed him the one I’d already done on my own that was vastly superior to his, he got the hump over that. I’m not going to the “business breakfasts” it’s such a specialist business, I’ll do my own networking. One of the main problems for SMEs is over regulation, it doesn’t seem to matter what field it’s in, all are over regulated out of existance. I have a friend who makes quad trailers who nearly had a nervous breakdown trying to wade through the road regulations, I told him to declare them all off road use only and sell them on ebay, it’s the only way he could make it! Another friend is a landlord, he almost gave up because of the regulations, many private landlords in the field have already. My own field has shrunk because of new licensing laws, the council inspector has no clue about the field, but she’s an expert box ticker making sure every item in… Read more »

RedhotScot
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

Thanks for that, I’m really grateful for your offer but at the moment the business is worth nothing as I can’t move forward with it because of useless universities.

I’m now looking for engineering companies is the space, health, that I can work with then hand the whole thing over to them for for a royalty. I’m too long in the tooth to be bothered with all the stress. I want to enjoy my recent retirement, not drive myself mad.

ImpObs
4 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Just make sure you’ve got a good NDA/IP contract in place before you show it them!

Find a similar device/similar manufacturing needs, then try to find the company that makes it, it doesn’t have to be a company in the health sector since it could be sterilised and packaged at a different place, I know a couple of good engineering firms I’ve done work with in the past, alluminium fab, and CNC sheet metal fab but no stainless/plastics, once you find a coulpe of potentials go meet them personally, these kinda relationships are best started over a brew to get a feel for how they work, the mood of the workers on the shop floor etc. some places specialize in prototyping too.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  civilliberties

DWP are not claiming that they are losing staff through them becoming redundant (compare with lying bastards who run P&O) or that they are no good at doing their jobs so why are they being fired? We are no longer expected to visit them in person so geographic location cannot be the problem. I can only think DWP dont want to pay the office rent now they have been encouraged to cease WFH, Irony indeed. I was in contact with DWP, for the first time ever, from almost the start of Lockdown due to initially much redused taxi income. Spring/ Summer 2020. Of a dozen or so contacts all bar two were digital. Once they phoned me on a Sunday morning to make sure I was real and another time I phoned them, can’t remember why or any problems and I have had no need of contact for most of last year and not all for this. My digital interaction with the DWP has been entirely satisfactory (apart from some jargon issues dealt via their messaging system) so I have every sympathy for their former workers. Just to avoid confusion; I generally regard government workers as idle layouts but make… Read more »

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

Lockdown is a mediaeval superstition, correctly abandoned as policy centuries ago but revived by mediaevalist philosophy, such as environmentalism, essentially repackaged communism and/or German socialism.

Once you grasp that, the philosophy behind lockdown, the rest becomes explicable.

DodosArentDead
4 years ago

This is not just communism. This is a very special kind of communism.

Check out a series of 4 short 10 min videos.

Absolutely horrendous.

Coming to a place near me and you and you and you in the very near future!

https://m.theepochtimes.com/episode-1-war-on-the-human-spirit-the-dark-origins-of-communism_3947877.html

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  DodosArentDead

A very special kind!

Digital Fascism run by a new Techno Aristocracy – a return to subsistence feudalist slavery managed by technology for the Plebs.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  DodosArentDead

It is communism stripped of the pretense that it will lead to prosperity.

Since Bolshevik Socialism, or German Socialism or Guild Socialism cannot deliver prosperity, because they make economic calculation impossible, it is prosperity that must be abandoned.

I recommend ‘Ominous Parallels’ by Leonard Peikoff which looks at the ideas of Weimar Germany and what was and still is being taught in America.

DodosArentDead
4 years ago

Yes agree. Prosperity in any form is finished. The (Not) Great (At All) Reset is a work in progress due to complete in 2025. Allegedly.

Moderate Radical
4 years ago

Despite its scandalous censorship, Google remains the go-to place for many in need of fast information. When one is suffering of chest pain induced by a SARS-COV2 infection, one would expect to do a quick search online to learn about it.

Don’t you think?

Supposedly almost a million American died of Covid these past 2 years…

Question: How did 900,000 Americans die of Covid without going to the Internet to investigate about chest pain more than usual?

Or investigating fever either?! or even calling more than average Emergency services?

Pretty sure before you’d die of Covid, you’d get fever, chest pain and you’d call emergency services. Don’t you think?

Well since May 2020, they haven’t. By the way, this is also true in England…

Daily 999 covid calls:

Peak spring: 27th March 2020 =1,514

Peak last winter: 6th Jan 2021 = 366

Peak this winter so far: 28th Dec 2021 = 246

Perspective.

https://covidmythbuster.substack.com/p/googles-double-contradiction?utm_medium=web

DodosArentDead
4 years ago

Just EXCELLENT.

A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago

Question: How did 900,000 Americans die of Covid without going to the Internet to investigate about chest pain more than usual?

who in their right mind would ask google about chest pains rather than heading to the nearest doctor?

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

They didn’t.

A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

well obviously but they’re trying to argue that this proves nobody died “from covid” or presumably any heart related disease in the past 2 years.

RedhotScot
4 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

It seems many people are terrified of visiting the doctor (if they are allowed to) or going to A&E for fear of catching covid.

I suspect they are enduring chest pains and stroke symptoms in the hope they will subside.

Self diagnosis by Google is infested with quacks and charlatans, and people likely consult their mates over FB for advice.

stewart
4 years ago

Call me suspicious, but all this admission that lockdowns were wrong springing up from the very institutions that drove the panic, like John Hopkins and their death clock, seem to me like preparing the ground for a new pandemic plan that involves super fast vaccine roll outs.

As far as I am seeing the narrative is now: lockdowns bad, tests good, masks good, vaccines wonderful.

For pandemic 2, as Bill Gates has already called it, there will be lots of tests, masks and vaccines in super warp speed.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

And there’s no one more warped than Bill Gates.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

His best mate Fauci perhaps? What a team!

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

As far as I am seeing the narrative is now: lockdowns bad, tests good, masks good, vaccines wonderful.

Well, the lockdowns have already served their purpose. They’ve destroyed a lot of small and medium enterprises, and probably discouraged more.

And they have demonstrated that most people will be submissive in the face of tyranny. So roll on the tests, the masks and the vaccines – to stop us having to bring back those nasty lockdowns!

dearieme
dearieme
4 years ago

I enjoyed the allusion in part of their title: “OPTIMISM OF THE WILL”.

Har, har! If only there were a simple antonym for “triumph”. How about “débâcle”? Fiasco?

Moderate Radical
4 years ago

Bob Moran takes it up another notch!

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago

“Thus we have what appears to be yet another example of how the Covid disaster has involved a fundamental breakdown not only of good government but of public and academic debate, as views which challenge the manufactured consensus of ‘the Science’ are denied entry to such debate.”

This is why no one will accept Steve Kirsch’s offer for any of the All Star defenders of the Covid conventional wisdom to debate himself or any of the prominent skeptics of these policies. They KNOW they will lose any public debate.

We also have thousands of colleges in America that are afraid to host a genuine debate … so what does this tell us about “free discourse” or a “search for the truth” in the halls of higher education?

…. And I’m not even mentioning the “watchdog” Fourth Estate.

scaredmama
scaredmama
4 years ago

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/nancy-pelosi-bono-poem-ukraine_uk_6233825fe4b0f1e82c46f173

Ode to a lump of green putty i found in my armpit one midsummer morning.

scaredmama
scaredmama
4 years ago
Reply to  scaredmama

P.s. I honestly don’t care if this is fake news or not. I just really feel that it makes the day,

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
4 years ago
Reply to  scaredmama

Anything non-musical (and some of the musical stuff) originating from Bono is, by definition, a total load of bovine faeces

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

Latest: Johnson to renege on promise to limit the amount MPs can earn from ‘second jobs’ no surprise- just another lie .

Johnson will do as he pleases so long as he is allowed to stay in Office and get away with it!

Good Government is now a distant fantasy for the troughers in charge – too busy writing themselves cheques.!

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

This is also Bozo’s way of insulting the people of this country who are facing inflation, no wage increases, lack of job security (P & O), and a doubling of fuel bills.

It’s a sort of F. you, plebs.

LatimerAlder
LatimerAlder
4 years ago

This might be a good paper with something interesting to say

I was hoping to find some juicy quotes for my Twitter feed to tempt others to take a look too

But the writing style is so impossibly turgid that I couldn’t get much beyond the first page

Guys – ‘the cat sat on the mat’ is much better than ‘doubtless the feline quadruped was recumbent upon the carpeting’

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
4 years ago
Reply to  LatimerAlder

That’s economists for you – no wonder it’s been called ‘the dismal science’

Fortyman
Fortyman
4 years ago

Well this may be true as I think it is. However, an in law has told me with complete confidence and equal scorn that lockdown was correct and the Great Barrington Declaration has been thoroughly ‘debunked’. Apparently I am intellectually incompetent.. Even with my higher research degree and research publication record.

rtj1211
rtj1211
4 years ago

What’s actually happened is that all Western Governments have embraced racism instead.