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Mark
4 years ago

The war propaganda “dream” that almost certainly only ever existed in the minds of juvenile US sphere fantasists, and liars.

More credible assessments are that the Russians always wanted to do exactly what they have said from the start – stop the attacks on Russian speakers, deNazify the Ukraine, and de-NATO the Ukraine.

Which they are pretty much on course for, more or less.

The rest is projection by the borg.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Yes, Comrade.

Mark
4 years ago

Write out on the blackboard 1000 times:

Russia is not the Soviet Union

Then come back to talk with the adults.

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Perhaps you should use your slate to write out, 1000 times.
“Comrade Putin is actively working to rebuild the Soviet Union and all its good works”

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

It’s hard to respond intellectually to stuff that’s so far removed from reality. It’s a bit like a child getting scared seeing someone making a doll and asking: “daddy, is he going to make a person?”. You could start gong into all the huge differences between a living being and a doll, and if one has time, with a child, one would do that, but in general it’s easier just to say “no”.

A good start would be here:

THE COLD WAR IS OVER

It would at least be within real world bounds to assert that “Putin is trying to rebuild the Russian Empire”, though only if one were using the term as inaccurately and hyperbolically as it is used to apply to the modern American superpower. Neither America nor Russia is an “empire” in any formal sense, but we sometimes use these terms merely to describe a superpower ruling over other lands in various ways.

It would still be wrong, imo, but a “Russian Empire” contains none of the poisonous ideological and totalitarian menace of the Soviet Union.

JXB
JXB
4 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

Wrong. He is working to rebuild Imperial Russia.

JXB
JXB
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Old Cold War soldiers never die. The demise of the USSR left a huge void for some who just have to keep fighting it.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago

I get it, you’ve been watching The Ipcress File on the telly and mistaken it for a current affairs program.

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Telly? No!!!!!. (We don’t have one). The film is the one to watch (whereas the TV version of Tinker Tailor was the one to watch, not the film. Good as it was, it all took place to rapidly, lacking the necessary slow pace of the series, mirroring how espionage really works.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

BBC and ITV still leading with “Russia ‘could’ use chemical or nuclear weapons”

I ‘could’ get run over by a bus but it’s hardly ‘news’ and no reason to cancel buses.

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Buses? Do you still see any where you live?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

Hearing them still running on the first day of Lockdown Proper, “95% of UK workers stay at home”, was enough to tell me it was all bollocks.
How else would their nannies and cleaners get to work?

Grumman
Grumman
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

You should try central London, there is nothing but convoys of buses, the majority with hardly any or no passengers, all part of magic Khans tfl wonderland.

ImpObs
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The annexing thing is nonsense, but I’m still in two minds weather Putin is another puppet of the real globalist black nobility puppet masters running the financial black hole in Switzerland.

He doesn’t seem the useful idiot type, and the timming of Ukraine is too suspicious, and it forwards the “Great reset” agenda bigtime, if he was a real threat to them he would have been taken out long ago IMO.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

I agree. The timing of the invasion jarrs with me too – very suspicious.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Suggestive rather than suspicious, I think – given that we don’t know what information the Russians were receiving about developments in the Ukraine, particularly with regard to the biolabs.

As for Putin and the WEF – he doesn’t strike me as the kind of man to sit worshipfully at the feet of Schwab to be taught the agenda.

ImpObs
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

As for Putin and the WEF – he doesn’t strike me as the kind of man tosit worshipfully at the feet of Schwab to be taught the agenda. If we ignore the rhetoric and look at the defacto results, convinient cover for the wheels falling off the covid scamdemic, while the WHO is still rolling out digital passorts under the banner of health passes, it’s all in line with the great reset, the whole SWIFT thing, Bidens excuse starting legislation to roll crypto into CBDC, supply chain crisis with grain now too etc. War gives them all an excuse to move the agenda forward with a perfect cover. The WEF is just the marketing arm of the BIS and the old money black nobility in Switzerland, if Putin is a puppet he’s above Schwab in the pecking order. Even after the “great reset” they still need an enemy. “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” – H. L. Mencken “Oceania was at war with Eurasia; therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia.”… Read more »

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

I like your point about the pecking order!

All the reasons for Russia going in were arguably more relevant in 2014 after the coup, why no action then?

Short answer – I don’t know.

But a lot happens in 8 years, and more things are learnt or believed. We see everything now through the prism of COVID. It sheds a good deal of light, but it can also distort perceptions.

ImpObs
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Did you know Yeltsin was blackmailed with a $7 Billion IMF loan? That gives you some clues who is controlling the puppets.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/so-who-really-tried-to-blackmail-yeltsin-takeover-russia-nsa-cia-or-investment-bankers/

To understand geopolitics, you have to understand geofinance, who controls it, and the history of how they got that control. A great book for that is “The Lost Science of Money: The Mythology of Money, The Story of Power” by Stephen A.Zarlenga, (2002) you can find pdf versions on the web.

This is more of a condensed version of the history, but with more names: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338079143_BLACK_NOBILITY_TERROR_A_PRODUCTION_OF_REMA_MARKETING_AND_WWW_OLIGARCH_ELITISM_Part_1

History repeats, because they use the same formula.

Covid is a minor part of it. If you want it in modern context starting with Covid, this is a good documentry as a primer, it’s shows who’s really behind it, and I gaurentee it’s not who you think:  https://wolfclanmedia.org/coronagate-film/

We’re witnessing the controlled demolition of the global economy, the beggining of another great die off cycle, benefitting the same families who’ve been doing this same thing for hundreds of years.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

What do you think of Randall Wray’s criticisms of Zarlenga? (I’m guessing you’re not a fan of Scott Fullwiler).

ImpObs
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

I’m not a fan of economists, period. I see Zarlenga as more of a monetary historian, you could argue people like Wray are right in that governments are gonna do what they want anyway, but that’s not because monetary reformists misunderstand how governments spend as Wray would argue, it’s because the public arn’t educated in monetary fundamentals. Can you imagine where we’d be in 20 years if Zarlengas book was compulsory reading in every school? (lol as if)

Economists are captured by the cabal, brainwashed in economics school (of whatever flavour). The public is economically dumbed down by government eduction, or lack thereof.

Contrarians like Zarlenga just get armwaved away by economists, the public don’t know any better. Look what happened to Zarlengas monetary reform movement, it just got usurped/controlled, the leading guy in it now is a green nonsesne spouting doofus all about climate change.

I had to look Fullwiler up, Wartburg guy, you only have to look where the Wartburgs came from, Venitian banking family (lol)

JXB
JXB
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

I think the timing has more to do with the advent of the idiot in the White House and his stellar performance to date, the ineptitude of the US military demonstrated as it ran away from Afghanistan, and the parlous state of the Western economies wrecked by the Inept Ones in what passes for Government, and who – to confirm what morons they are, just in case we hadn’t noticed – intend to finish us off with sanctions which will rebound on us to worse effect than their intended target.

We are headed for a great reset, but not as planned…. best laid plans of mice and men, etc.

ImpObs
4 years ago
Reply to  JXB

You’d get on well with Toby, no conspiracies, covid etc. was all due to due to bumbling ineptitude…

Not buying it.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

Ukraine was timed to hide the ever decreasing evidence that The Covid was meaningfull.

Idris
Idris
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

There was no pandemic
There is no climate change
And there is no war.

if I’m wrong show me the evidence

Mark
4 years ago

So hurry up and encourage the Ukrainians to accept the reasonable terms on offer, instead of trying to encourage them to fight to the last Ukrainian.

Then we in the US sphere could turn to what really matters for us – rooting out the liars who have been whipping our societies into these paroxysms of hysterical fear, guilt and hatred, in one catastrophically self-harming moral panic after another – covid, BLM, Russia, …. Ideally before the next one strikes.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Yes, reward the socialist dictator

Mark
4 years ago

Write out on the blackboard 1000 times:

Russia is not the Soviet Union, Putin is not a “dictator”, and he’s no more socialist than the likes of Johnson and Biden are, and a lot less woke.

Then come back to talk with the adults.

Star
4 years ago

@Moist, You write as if the West are the adults in the room, or the zookeepers.

TSull
TSull
4 years ago

What does it feel like to be stuck in the 1990s?

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Too right.

Londo Mollari
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I wonder if anyone can check out this claim – all neon is now stopped from being shipped to the US (and presumably elsewhere) with catastrophic consequences for manufacturing items like silicon chips.

https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=2565

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

They will expect us to buy that blockaded surplus and donate it to ‘developing countries’ where warlords will siphon it off to sell to their own supporters and even their enemies.

Mark
4 years ago

The stuff about biolabs in the Ukraine is unknowable atm, too much dishonesty from all involved parties.

Though I do respect Ron Unz – an extremely intelligent and informed individual, and he clearly thinks it’s possible the Ukraine labs are linked to the covid story:

Ukraine and Biowarfare Conspiracy Theories

COVID-19 Bio-Attack Smoking Gun!

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I know enough to understand that your assessments are cautious – and rightly so.

They are strange and dangerous times when that attracts fear or suspicion.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

This path leads to “US developed Covid using secret labs hidden in Ukrain which is why Russia attacked”.

ImpObs
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I put these links in yesterdays news roundup, Dilyana has been all over this since ~2016 when she found biowarfare paperwork in the hands of terrorist types in Georgia, and traced it back to the labs, I saw one of her documentries filming US diplomatic plates in biolabs all around Eastern Europe early in the cov19 drastic investigations, but I forgot her name and didn’t pay too much attention because I was concentrating on cov research, she’s got some nuts on her that’s for sure! watch her presentation from 2018, and see her articles at armswatch, she has the smoking gun paperwork, and plenty of evidence they’re testing bio agent delivery in various insects. Dilyana Gaytandzhieva AV9 – Pentagon Bio-weapons … EXPOSED! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T9ktfz_FfA https://armswatch.com/author/dilyana-gaytandzhieva/ Documents obtained from the US Federal contracts registry show that USAMRU-G is expanding its activities to other US allies in the region and is “establishing expeditionary capabilities” in Georgia, Ukraine, Bulgaria, Romania, Poland, Latvia and any future locations. The next USAMRU-G project involving biological tests on soldiers is due to start in March of this year at the Bulgarian Military Hospital in Sofia.. DTRA has allocated $80 million for biological research in Ukraine as of 30… Read more »

Amtrup
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

Saker site has a piece looking at Dilyana’s work:

https://thesaker.is/ukraine-bio-weapons-the-pentagon/

And concludes that there probably are biological weapons in the Ukraine and that the US has broken international law.

But yes, difficult to know what to believe.

The fact that Nuland “confirmed” the presence of dangerous biological research labs in Ukraine and then with Rubio (?) went on to talk about possible biological attacks and say that Russia would be obvious culprit because having access to these labs … sounds like black flag set up ….

Is that response scrambled together to turn/flip the Russian accusations, so that even *if* the US was funding illegal research it’s the Russians who’ll be the baddies *if* there is a biological weapon incident?

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

Thanks for the link, ImpObs. She is indeed brave (particularly enjoyed her challenges in the elevator) …

paul smith
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Nuland’s Vicky Pollard impression in response to the question of Ukraine bio-weapons labs was priceless.
“No, we don’t have them, but, yes, they exist, but no, they don’t.”
…etc.

civilliberties
4 years ago

As numbers admitted to hospital in England rise again, ministers face calls to extend fourth vaccination beyond the over-75s,

I’ve been smacked on the head and experiencing deja vu again reading that

The Harry Potter author took to Twitter to criticise the Labour leader’s comments, claiming the party could “no longer be counted on to defend women’s rights

If starmer does not know who is and who is not a woman then it does not give me confidence really,

“Parents fury as 32,650 a year school teaches 64 genders”

More fall the parents for paying it, remember the good ol days when there were only 2.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  civilliberties

Kneel is a long way from being the sharpest knife in the box. ‘Idiot’ would be overstretching his competence.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  civilliberties

Vaccinations aren’t working = more vaccines

Idris
Idris
4 years ago
Reply to  civilliberties
  • People going to hospital for operations are being tested. No test, no positives. Stop testing.
Mark
4 years ago
  • The Lake District: How to Turn an Emergency into a Catastrophe” – The Lake District, that jewel in the Cumbrian crown of England, is a case study in how mismanagement of what transpired to be essentially just another virus can lead to near economic catastrophe, writes Roger Watson in the Country Squire.

Excellent piece.

Gregoryno6
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Excellent piece indeed.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Absolutely agree. Sadly, in these Orwellian times I have to say he has proven himself a brave man.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Agreed, the only Roundup articke that I intended to return to this morning.

Every single lockdown feature mentioned, including toilet buckets, was mocked here and elswhere before and during implementation, rightly so.

Gregoryno6
4 years ago

Roundup story 1 tells me that Western Australia still doesn’t have a monopoly on the covid bedwetters.
MSM here continue to report Big Scary Numbers from test results. Terrifying! Or it would be if all those ‘cases’ were real people desperate for intensive care. Currently 103 in hospital. 5 in icu.
We’ve had 2 confirmed deaths across Feb-March, one of those reported as having ‘underlying health issues.’

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

Isn’t that a fewer number than the deaths of the homeless in Mark’s western paradise? Home of the budget surplus?

Gregoryno6
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Stats on homeless deaths are hard to find, but there’s this from 2020.

In March 2017, Labor took Government in a landslide, promising much. In that time, public housing has declined by nearly 1,200 from 44,087 to 42,932 homes. In recent years, the average number of deaths on the streets of homeless people in Perth alone has been 30.

Masky and former Health Minister Roger Cook achieved SFA with the health service; from what I’ve seen of the homeless problem the same applies to the homeless. I live a couple of miles from the CBD and in recent years they’ve begun turning up at local supermarkets. Begging, ie asking for money, gets them moved on, but they can sit there with a sign saying ‘Please Help’.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

He really is appalling. Have those thumping majorities disturbed the balance of his mind?

Gregoryno6
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Could be. But thumping majorities in parliament cut both ways. Too many MPs on the backbench, the ambitious ones get restless. Most of WA had forgotten that McClown earnt the nickname Sneakers during his early years in politics. That got back into circulation last year a few months after the election win – I figured it was spread by people on his own side trying to deflate him.

Mark
4 years ago

BALLISTIC MISSILES HIT US TARGETS IN ERBIL, IRAN SAID TO BE RESPONSIBLE (VIDEOS)
On its face this is just another in the endless tit for tat between the US/Israel and Iran over Syria. It’s particularly dangerous right now, though, with the high tensions and even higher emotions over war in the Ukraine.

The likelihood of a huge over-reaction by the US is probably quite high, and that could easily escalate rapidly.

The main thing mitigating the risk at the moment, I suspect, is that nothing could be more disastrous for the world, and the US sphere in particular, than a big flare-up in Middle East violence right now, when oil prices are already up and supplies uncertain.

The concern though is, just how firmly is US regime action under rational control right now? The evidence of all the hysterical stupidity about “no fly zones” and “jets to Ukraine” would seem to be that there’s not much thinking going on and an awful lot of emoting! Add to that a clearly senile leader, and we are living in ever more interesting times.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

nothing could be more disastrous for the world

That probably should be nothing (plausibly possible) barring a nuclear exchange.

Nymeria
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

From JP, here’s Kamala Harris’ take on Russia & Ukraine:

UPDATE: Russia and Ukraine Explained by Kamala Harris! – YouTube

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

JP’s a much more credible source of news and analysis than any of our mainstream providers.

Nymeria
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Absolutely.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Who is JP?

Londo Mollari
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

“Who are these Beatles?” Judge in 1967 murder trial (allegedly)

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

An online sceptic and comic, whose satires only fail because reality is so much more extreme. Lots of youtube stuff from well before covid.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

Thank you.

Londo Mollari
4 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

Haha – JP never disappoints!

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I don’t believe Biden is a problem except when he goes freelance, by and large his carers are in charge. However, from Biden’s pronouncements it is beginning to look like his carers need carers.

That’s the worry.

Star
4 years ago

PCR test (or any other kind of test for a viral or bacterial infection): false positive rate equals what? False negative rate equals what? No piece about “possible” misleading effects of the testdemic is fit for anything other than the bin unless it gives or at least speculates about figures for these extremely easy to understand (perhaps unless you’re a journalist) statistics.

Londo Mollari
4 years ago

The Lake District article is well worth a read. It should be required reading for former Lib Dem leader Tim Farron, in particular.

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Yes, the horrors never cease – and put me in mind of the delightfully named ‘The Saddest Summer of Samuel S’ (by J.P.Donleavy).

Gregoryno6
4 years ago

“What we need in Western Australia is another Adem Somyurek. Somurek is the rebel member of the Victorian Labor government who let rip with some hugely entertaining tweets on Danfuhrer’s cabinet meetings. Where’s the Somyurek of the west? I’m sure they exist.”

https://gregoryno6.wordpress.com/2022/03/13/lockdownunder-update-thousands-can-attend-the-football-but-500-only-to-remember-our-war-dead/

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

Please ignore my earlier question – WTF?

Gregoryno6
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Too late! I just answered that earlier question.
WTF indeed. But maybe he’s taking a bet on cases coming down over the next month, so he can play the generous leader and declare the Kings Park ceremony open to all.
Except that will screw up the carefully organised plans of the RSL, Just like Masky did with QANTAS.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

He does like playing Father Christmas on occasion.

But it seems that he’s starting to make mistakes (in his own interest). When so much hinges on opening the borders, you’d better get it right – and he’s pissing people off.

oblong
4 years ago

starmer
Is it possible for me to identify myself as British. I might not be but because I think I am then surely I must be. Please can I have my UK passport now as I pass the test.

Jon Garvey
4 years ago
Reply to  oblong

Why would you want to, at the moment?

JeremyP99
4 years ago

The more jabs, the more cases. When did we get SO stupid?

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

Probably on exiting the Garden of Eden!

paul smith
4 years ago

In case anyone still harboured doubts as to whether or not the public is being ‘nudged’ into embracing the prospect of WWIII, I offer the following – Duck ‘n’ Cover V. 2.0, per the reliably bonkers CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/radiation/emergencies/stayinside.htm?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Femergency.cdc.gov%2Fradiation%2Fstayinside.asp

JXB
JXB
4 years ago

 The CDC published a report Friday finding that the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine is 31% effective at preventing infection for children aged five to 11 years old, ‘

Up to their old tricks, quoting Relative Risk Reduction instead of Absolute Risk Reduction. Risk of infection in that age group is very low, so reducing it by 31% (not 30%, not 32%) is meaningless, Risk of death in that age group is approaching zero, so reducing risk of infection is of no benefit when weighed against the risk from vaccination.

JXB
JXB
4 years ago

 Scotland’s COVID-19 hospitalisation rate is the highest in over a year as a surge of infections driven by the highly transmissible Omicron variant…’

Correction…

 Scotland’s COVID-19 hospitalisation rate is the highest in over a year as a surge of infections driven by leaky so-called vaccines…

That’s better.

i wonder how many more highly vaccinated Countries with surging infections/hospitalisation/deaths there will have to be before the goon-squad realise/admit its not ‘despite’ its ‘because’.

Just stop trying to stop the unstoppable.

samurai
samurai
4 years ago

The covid scam ended abruptly and the Ukraine issue followed (more or less).

Theres a secretive force (im gonna call them the whites) that orchestrated the above.

The cabal(Mr Global) reacted to the above. Hence the excessive sqealing in the media, hollywood, govt., adverts, slebs etc…. Pretty much along the same line as the covid scam (flags, clapping , lies etc…)…Too much to take seriously.

The whites are going to (bit by bit) rid us of Mr Global. Then bring about a favourable (to the people) reset.

Mr global wont succeed anyway – its too audacious, things are not linear, they (mr g) make mistake, implode etc…

Any comments welcome.