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Mark
4 years ago

Not all doom and gloom in the Ukraine

Russian Ruble Takes Over In Ukraine’s Lost Territories

I’ve been very aware of just how slanted our mainstream media coverage always is on wars in which our elites have an interest in taking sides. When there’s a conflict that we are intended to intervene in, we pretty much hear only positive stories about the “victims” we are going to protect, and only negative stories about the demonised “aggressors” we are intended to attack. In the Blair/Clinton illegal US/UK attack on Yugoslavia it was particularly egregious, with constant coverage of suffering Albanians begging for NATO to save them, and virtually no coverage or discussion of the years of criminal and terrorist violence the Kosovo Serbs in particular had been faced with.

So here’s a reminder that there are ordinary folk in the Ukraine who are happy to see Russian forces (nashi – “ours”) finally in charge.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Congratulations Mr. Putin for recreating the film set of The Third Man.

Thought provoking dram set in 1950s Vienna with corruption and crooked money exchanges featuring heavily in the background, middle-ground and sometimes foreground, backed up with Soviet guns but avoidable by paying way over the odds and waving $US or £GBP notes around.

The poor and middle classes got poorer while the rich hid their nazi loot.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

“Positive stories about the victims”.

From being 50-50, Putins actions have brought me firmly to Ukraines side but I still skim past the pro Ukrain guff pushed in all areas of the media that are, if not outright anti-Putin lies, clearly propaganda.

Mark
4 years ago

Pakistan comes out against the arrogant, hysterical US sphere demand to punish Russia in ways they never dreamed of punishing their own leaders and nations for much the same crimes: Pakistani leader refuses to condemn Russia, plans to stay neutral “Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan has condemned western demands for the independent nation to join sanctions of Russia, with which it has close bilateral ties, suggesting that he is not the West’s “slave.” Khan’s remarks come following the demands from the heads of 22 foreign heads of state who sent a joint letter to the Pakistani government in Islamabad, demanding that they join the U.N. General Assembly Resolution to collectively denounce the Russian invasion of Ukraine. As detailed by the Times of India, both Pakistan and India joined with China to abstain from voting on the anti-Russia resolution. They were among 35 countries that refused to vote on the resolution deploring in the strongest terms Russia’s actions in Ukraine, which demanded that Russia “immediately, completely, and unconditionally,” withdraw its forces from Ukrainian territory. “As heads of mission to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, we urge Pakistan to join us in condemning Russia’s actions,” said the diplomats and heads of state… Read more »

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Good for Imran Khan.

Is an imminent state visit for a chat with her maj on the cards?

nottingham69
nottingham69
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

He will do as China says.

Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I doubt it. She doesn’t seem to care much (officially) what Truedope is doing.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Apart from a large population, a few nuclear weapons (which the can’t recreate), a useful strategic location and talk of allowing Russia a Naval Base; what influence does shrinking Pakistan have outside S/E Asia ?

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Their colonies are thriving.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Pakistan’s colonies?
Aren’t they becoming a Chinese colony themselves hence their overtures to Russia?

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I’m thinking of Bradford, and parts of London.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

I’m in geographical position to forget about that although I could see it happening ‘live’ in the 1970s so took the necessary steps to avoid the worst.

Mark
4 years ago

“Some companies find it easier to be woke than stand up to barbaric Putin” – After complaining about microaggressions, ethical investors must pressure businesses to leave Russia or risk becoming a laughing stock, says Matthew Lynn in the Telegraph. “If a company does have any form of social responsibility then surely it needs to stop doing any kind of business with Vladimir Putin’s barbaric regime.  … If companies don’t cut ties with the country they can’t claim to have any form of conscience, or, come to think of, any claim to normal standards of decency” It’s a mark of a societal mass hysteria that supposedly respectable professionals feel no shame in coming out with this kind of childish, overwrought, emotive nonsense, because everyone’s doing it, after all. Needless to say, there was none of this unprofessional blather from most of these desperate virtue signallers over any of the illegal wars waged by the US and UK, however mass murderous they became. None of them wittered on to this degree about “Blair’s barbarism”, despite the tempting alliteration, and certainly none of them tried to apply the vacuous nastiness of cancel culture on this global scale. When he wrote a Bloomberg political epitaph… Read more »

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Here’s a bit of “barbarism” for Lynn to catch up on his no doubt omitted outrage over:

Grdelica – NATO Jet Strike on Passenger Train Revisited – 1999 NATO Bombing of Serbia (Reportage)

It should be easy to find the barbaric perpetrator, the UK equivalent of the “unbalanced” Putin back then – he’s just been knighted, to top a nice list of lifetime honours:

United Kingdom Privy Councillor (1994)[46]
United States Congressional Gold Medal (2003)[272]
Honorary Doctor of Law (LLD) from Queen’s University Belfast (2008)
United States Presidential Medal of Freedom (2009)
Dan David Prize (2009)
United States Liberty Medal (2010)
Kosovo Order of Freedom (2010)
United Kingdom Knight Companion of the Order of the Garter (2022)

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I stand by my oft repeated assertion that he has been the most dangerous and clearly evil man to have ever occupied Downing St.

I’m struggling to say more.

TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

We can contend with the evil that men do in the name of evil, but heaven protect us from what they do in the name of good.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenGoblin

Third Crusade.
Savanarola
Communist Revolutions

NEXT.
(3 entries max. per entry).

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Disappearance of Arkle
Shooting of Norman Scott’s dog
Pantsdown’s Pathetic Prognostications on Foot ‘n’ Mouth lead to mass slaughter.

NEXT

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Which “He” do you refer ?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I was in The post-Tito ‘Country Formerly Known As Yugoslavia’, (UN speak = CFKY) before its final break up for a couple of weeks but the concept of being in two different countries (Croatio + CFKY or Serbia + CFKY) at the same time never crossed my mind, or the locals around me come to that.

Yougoslava currency still normal everywhere. Cross country trains still ran throughout on a single timetable.
Were it not for the politicians on the old tellmies you wouldn’t know anything was happening at the time.

Since I didn’t watch their tallies I didn’t think anything was happening until I got back to London where I found my passport Exit stamp read Jugoslava.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

🤔”Old telly news”

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I thought you’d gone all Bard of Avon and coined a new one.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

A bit of collateral damage is bound to happen but makes for good telly when it does.

(Hurried exit stage left).

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

“Companues must leave Russia or risk becoming a laughing stock”

‘Laughing Stock’ among the Guardian reading Laughingstickerati who are so far up their own a*ses they are perplexed and devastated when then they lose at the ballot box.

Any well run company can live through that while the poor unwoke still buy their stuff or consume their service.

Mark
4 years ago

Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one. 

https://twitter.com/MichaelPSenger/status/1500911978352500737

Dr. Joseph Fraiman: “Personally, I would like to apologize to the three other scientists sitting with me here on Zoom, the proponents of the Great Barrington Declaration…I’m sorry, because I believe now you guys were correct. And you were correct from the beginning.””

TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Herds, herds. I wonder: if the term of “herd immunity” didn’t conjure up images of farm animals maybe Boris wouldn’t have been harangued into lockdown all those months ago.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenGoblin

After Peking and Bombay being changed to suit whatever agenda (followed more recently by Kiev) it seems that ‘herd immunity’ is now ‘community immunity’ (which fairly rolls off the tongue, doesn’t it?)

karenovirus
4 years ago

Roundup, total. Lots of interesting ground to cover this morning but I logged on late so will miss most of it.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Here we go, done my bit.
Does Ukraine have an equivalent to Polands one word ward cry

“SOLIDARITY !”

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karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Evil downticked by sordid supporters of Putins takeover of east Ukrain which has a clear parallel to Hitler taking The Sudetenland followed by rump Chechia.
Hiving off Slovakia (west Ukraine as a distinct entity to pretend it’s different) come next and then we all know what but Putin probably has more time if he isn’t already well into dementia as Hitler was (and he knew it).

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

You seem to assume that ‘my enemy’s enemy is my friend’ applies. A ludicrous assumption in this case: I have seen no evidence here that anyone is pro-Putin; rather, many of us are able to see the madness which characterises the pro-Nato block’s aggressive and continual pressuring of Russia, which has finally led to a backlash from Russia. Nasty, like all wars, but quite understandable!

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

I’m not bothered but why go to the effort of downticking a post that simply shows a flag (and not a swastica or suddenly biquitous ‘Z’) ?

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Because “solidarity” is collectivism, and the collective you’re fellating flattering contains a lot of SSketchy characters.

Ukraine is a massively corrupt nation with a disparate populace, quite a few of who think that the only thing Hitler did wrong was to lose.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Thank you Roger, I have for decades had very positive views on all things Ukrainian having spent several happy days there shortly before Mr. Gorbachev took charge of the USSR.

All my pre-visit notes and subsequent photo anotation lazily reference “Russia Holiday” only using ‘The Ucrain’ perhaps to indicate my own “wider horizons” (LoL).

In my experience the major difference between west and east Ukrain (also applies eleswhere within the former USSR) is the state of WCs available to the public which deteriorate considerable as one traverses west to east but not sufficiently to engage in open warfare.

I will take time to examine what you and others say about Ukrainian Nazis in the expectation that they do exist but with the hope that they constitute a tiny but lowdmouthed minority.

The sudden but semingly ubiquitous arrival of “Z” (see my previous post) says to me that is a well financed put-up job of no real significance.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The issue that us outside observers have is Ukraine has an openly neo-Nazi battalion at all, serving in their National Guard, in the East.

It’s a very peculiar situation. I don’t image that they like the Jewish puppet-president any more than he likes them, but that does rather suggest that “Ukraine” is a plurality rather than a unified collective.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Most nazi groups seem to be tiny and loudmouthed, but I seem to remember that’s how the original incarnation started out.

RichardTechnik
RichardTechnik
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I’m sorry KV but I was one of the downtickers. I don’t often downtick. Ukrainian has солідарність ( solidarnist ) as an equivalent word. I have great sympathy for the ordinary Ukrainians and their ethnic Russian countrymen who do not need and should not deserve this, but by their support and inaction have encouraged Ukraine’s political placeholders to be manipulated by EU/West/NATO/globalists over the last decade into provocation of Russia. I do not support Putin’s leadership. After 2 years of domestica misinformation and propaganda I believe nothing in the MSM about the conflict and rely on a few friends in the UK who have familiy in Ukraine for information.

You mention 6 hours ago you were in former Yugoslavia before the war largely encouraged by NATO. I was also there on business and stayed with my associates in Croatia and Serbia. The existing cultural and historical parallels between west Ukraine and the Russian populated Donbas are becoming clearer. If Russia obstructs the globalists’ plan then there will be some benefit from this.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Putout?

reptile
reptile
4 years ago

One article that should be included in the round up. Where’s the outrage over Trudeau’s trip to Britain?
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/where-s-the-outrage-over-trudeau-s-trip-to-britain-

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  reptile

Trudeau visited UK? Didn’t know about it until I read this your Specy link.

The lead Image confirms disastrous confusion rife among our leaders. Bozo still trying the fist bump as Trudeau reverts to the whole-hand grab.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  reptile

I haven’t followed ‘the news’ since Covid appeared but am surprised not to have noticed that!
Trudeau trying to drum up support among his Anglo majority electorate so most attention directed toward Canadian media?

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Bozo behind the times as usual.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  reptile

If he didn’t swim over, should we report him to Greta?

reptile
reptile
4 years ago

Essential viewing as always. Tucker Carlson: We are at war with Russia 8th March 2022.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PC7DzTRS7A

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  reptile

Deploy token numbers of allied Armed Forces is a very dangerous move.
Our PTB (military or pitical) are daring Putin to attack them even though they present no threat to him at all as this would provide the excuse needed to retaliate, in force, if they feel like it.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

provide the excuse needed to retaliate, in force, if they feel like it.

The “excuse needed” to attack a nuclear power in force?

And we’re supposed to believe that it’s Putin who’s “mentally unstable”?

And when “our side” has provoked such an attack, say on a Polish airfield, by helping to kill Russian soldiers, because the Russians do what any of us would do in such a situation and defend their military, what kind of “in force” “retaliation” do you think our rulers have in mind?

Then what do you expect the Russian to respond with?

Are our rulers just engaging in blind faith that eventually the Russians must give in to our righteousness? Because after all they must know they are in the wrong, right? “Everyone knows” that.

Rogerborg
4 years ago

Oh, Mail, never give up with the BOMBSHELL headlines.

To be fair, they do tend to go on and give some context that hospitalisations (with, not from) and deaths (with, not…) aren’t up significantly. But they miss the important one that “case” are still closely tracking “testing”, and the “tests” now include self-reported lateral flow results.

Looks to me like Korona Karen is desperately trying to bag herself one last week of paid Netflix binging with a positive test while they’re still free (to her). Or just self reporting as positive.

How are you going to prove otherwise?

Mark
4 years ago

For those who still think the current priority and “moral duty” is to join the moral panic over Russia’s supposed aggression in the Ukraine. From Tucker Carlson’s excellent piece earlier today, posted by reptile below, here’s senior US Senator Lindsey Graham, a “Republican In Name Only” buffoon like so many of our “Conservatives”, but one closely connected to the US ruling elites, posturing in front of Ukrainian soldiers in 2016: “Your fight is our fight. 2017 will be the year of offence. All of us will go back to Washington and we will push the case against Russia. Enough of Russian aggression. It is time for them to pay a heavier price.” Now those who want to try to be grownups rather than manipulated children will try to understand how they would feel and how they would expect their own government to respond, if they were to hear a foreign government openly making plans to cause the deaths of their soldiers. That’s how most Russians will respond. As Tucker points out, this is the third moral panic that has infected the US sphere in two years. Time to choose if you’ll be swept up in this one. Tucker: We are… Read more »

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Carlson:

if getting to the truth was the point of the exercise, we as American citizens would be able to read whatever we wanted to read.”

Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago

Britain records 126,605 Covid cases over last three days
Nothing to do with obsessive testing, then, now that people’s comfort blanket, the LFT, won’t be free for much longer.

Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago

Boris Johnson under pressure over Net Zero pledge amid Ukraine crisis

I’m aware that petitions don’t do much (reading the guvmint’s patronising woffle in answer to any of them) but it would be satisfying to see them growing – though this one is growing suspiciously slowly and will expire in April.

Hold a referendum on whether to keep the 2050 net zero target https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/599602

Mark
4 years ago

This is quite a clarifying infographic piece. Top 10 Countries by Military Spending (1870-2020) You can clearly see the multipolar pre-WW2 world giving way to the long period of two superpowers sharing power in the middle and late C20th, and then the period of unipolar US dominance after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Military spending is not everything. Financial and economic power count for a lot in day to day influence, and military power is a lag indicator – military spending follows the acquisition of the wealth that enables it, and takes time to bear fruit. And some adjustments are necessary to reflect “purchasing power parity” and spending efficiency, though those don’t change the overall position much. Also, spending is strongly affected by circumstances – many of the surges in spending you see are the results of periods of tension or war for particular states. But the long period of total US dominance in military spending is still reflected in total US global military dominance today. Nuclear deterrents aside, no power can hope to even begin to compete militarily with the US on even terms. Russia and China can probably hold their own for a while in a war… Read more »

Mogwai
4 years ago

As I’ve said in the other comments section, it seems that now is the time to ease off as we’re merely regurgitating what we already know. How many times must we read that lockdowns are bad, masks are bad and injections are bad? The world is easing off the restrictions, give it a break. I feel like, going by the Round-Up, we’re just recycling the same old same old. This site seems like it mostly done as it was intended to and it’ll be a lot quieter in here going forward. Personally, I’m fed up with talking about Covid. There’s a whole world out there independent of a resp disease. Stop being a dick ( or a Covidian ) and go and get a life!!

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

That might be OK if the governent would back off on the propaganda front, but they won’t. This morning one of the news items on Radio 3 was about some study which showed that ‘vaccine side effects’ were mostly mild and didn’t last long. Clearly they are still actively pushing the ‘safe and effective’ line, and until that stops it’s important that what opposition there is doesn’t back off.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Indeed. It’s worth keeping at it until almost everyone switches off the Beeb for good. It’s now a hollow shell of what it once was.

JXB
JXB
4 years ago

Russia has already been cut off from CNN, Pornhub and Facebook. The US is now working on depriving Russians of MacDonalds and CocaCola. ‘

Yes please! Can we have that here too, and Twitter, BLM and US Wokery?

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  JXB

If that happens here, all those people ‘working from home’ are going to struggle without Pornhub, Big Macs and Coke.

reptile
reptile
4 years ago

An other article that should be included in the news round up.

Canada Weaponized The Justice System Against Tamara Lich
“This is the Canadian government engaging in lawfare, where the process is the punishment. If Tamara is cleared of all charges she still has to spend probably over a year dealing with the legal harassment from the crown, character assassination from the media, and all the things that come with it.”
https://thenationaltelegraph.com/opinion/canada-weaponized-the-justice-system-against-tamara-lich

Is whats happened in Canada under Trudeau, the blueprint for all western countries?

John Dee
4 years ago

Data from Cambridge University scientists, who advise No.10, suggest only 51.8% of people had caught the virus by February 23rd, two years into the pandemic

Whereas, modelling from Prof Pantsdown at Imperial claims that up to 250% of UK citizens have caught covid. ‘Better to overestimate than under,’ says the Prof.

rtj1211
rtj1211
4 years ago

Gordon Brown is calling for ‘Nuremberg Trials for Russians’. https://wireopedia.com/2022/03/04/punish-putin-with-nuremberg-style-war-crimes-tribunal-says-gordon-brown/

Should Gordon Brown and all the 500+ MPs who voted for war in Iraq be hung first?