SAGE Stood Down, Signifying End of Pandemic

The Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) has been stood down in a clear sign that the Government believes the Covid crisis is over. The Telegraph has more.

Although the group “stands ready if required” it will no longer meet regularly, the first time it has halted its ongoing response since January 2020.

The decision was taken after the Government acknowledged that Britain has entered a new phase of its response, and follows the lifting of all remaining legal restrictions in England as part of Downing Street’s Living With Covid plan.

The devolved nations have their own scientific advisory groups and are emerging from the epidemic on slightly different timelines.

The Telegraph understands that the Government will continue to receive Covid advice from other expert bodies, such as the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA), the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), as well as from Sir Patrick Vallance, the Chief Scientific Advisor and Sir Chris Whitty, the Chief Medical Officer.

Professor Carl Heneghan, Director of the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine at the University of Oxford said:

The standing down of SAGE signifies the end of the pandemic in the U.K. This is a remarkable turnabout of events given that just before Christmas, SAGE advisors were warning infections could hit two million per day and were pushing for further restrictions. The Government will need to review whether SAGE is fit for purpose when it comes to pandemics. Particularly given its lack of clinical input and its overreliance on modelling – which we now know is no more than ‘guesswork’ – and its tendency to fixate on a particular set of assumptions.

In mid-December, SAGE models predicted hospitalisations could peak between 3,000 and 10,000 a day and deaths at between 600 and 6,000 a day, and the advisers said the Government should reintroduce lockdown restrictions “equivalent to those in place after step 2 or step 1 of the roadmap in England”.

However, the Government took advice elsewhere and declined. Deaths peaked at 306 on January 21st, while daily admissions never rose beyond 2,615.

Good to see the back of those guys. One more tick on the ‘pandemic over’ checklist. Next time we’ll need better advisers, and that will mean changing the person who picks them. We can’t afford to face another pandemic with Witless and Unbalanced heading up the advisory team. There needs to be change at the top.

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Moderate Radical
4 years ago

How timely.

Libertarianist
4 years ago

Quite

Hopeless - "TN,BN"
4 years ago

I don’t know about “stood down”. “Locked up” or “hung out to dry” would be my more charitable preferences.

ImpObs
4 years ago

I wonder what the bill was for SAGE, and can we have a clawback clause in any future contracts!

There must be some law we could get them with, gross negligence, malfeasance…

Less government
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

We most definitely need retribution. They should be hung out to be shamed, fined and imprisoned. What’s going down in the US also applies here…
Peter McCullough and Robert Malone call out corruption in the CDC , FDA , Pfizer and Military medical reporting of data to hide vaccine harm.

4 years ago

Perhaps a free trip on a tumbril?

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago

They’re not dead yet.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago

Is that a permanent standing down or a suspension, so that SAGE can be “re-activated” in the future should the need arise?

Whatever it is – it is LONG overdue. Their pronouncements were just harmful most of the time – they should never have been given the prominence they acquired.

Hopeless - "TN,BN"
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Once the worm is in the apple, it’s hard to be rid of. Crushing it, boiling it or chopping it up are ways to go.

It’s probably best to regard SAGE as endemic, unless we can achieve Zero-SAGE.

RW
RW
4 years ago

We cannot live with endemic SAGE, hence, Zero SAGE is the only viable option! 🙂

Jabba the Hut
Jabba the Hut
4 years ago

The clowns get in their clown car. Just as the vaccine wheels are about to fall off.

PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago

Off topic, but Rod Marsh, 74 and Shane Warne, 52 both die of heart attacks.
Has anyone in the MSM mentioned the possibility of vaccine side effects?
This is one of your legacies, Gates, Fauci, Johnson et al.

rtj1211
rtj1211
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

They should do a post-mortem on Warne and see if he had tell-tale Covid complications.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

Telegraph readers appear to be on the case, though it would be a miracle if any legacy media said anything about it.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

As soon as I saw the Warney news my first thought was – jabbing injury.

For all his hard living and partying ways he was a very fit sportsman in his latter years, having been ‘made over’ when he was dating Liz Hurley.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

Both died on the same day

What does this tell us?

1 There is nothing to see here
2 Please move on
3 Coincidences happen

rtj1211
rtj1211
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

They died one day apart, actually, because Warne actually commented on the death of Marsh.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

He commented on it 12 hours before he died, didn’t he?

sobers
sobers
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

No-one will mention vaccines, other than places like here. They are the ‘thing that must not be mentioned’ in the MSM, just like when a terrorist outrage happens the ethnicity/religious ideology of the perpetrators must not be mentioned either.

I said when the vaccination started that the powers that be would sweep everything under the carpet if it turned out badly. Only if people had been dropping like flies in the vaccination centres would they have been forced to stop. Once you get home everything is capable of being denied. Oh yes 52 year old men in the prime of life quite often suddenly have massive heart attacks. Move along, nothing to see here.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  sobers

just try posting that Sky Link
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/get-vaccinated-and-learn-to-live-with-it-shane-warne/video/9d147b8b2485b98ed164612d2468d6a4
on YouTube the video streaming arm of censorship engine google to see it auto deleted.

Early Doubter
4 years ago

‘Get vaccinated and learn to live with it’: Shane Warne
July 27, 2021 – 10:18AM
“Former cricketer Shane Warne says it’s now a matter of “getting on with it” and learning to live with COVID-19 by getting vaccinated.”
But of course video has vanished.

BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago
Reply to  sobers

They can’t admit they were wrong now. Not with carnage on a massive scale. They all know they “Must hang together …. lest we all hang together.”

mwhite
4 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

If an abnormally large number of well known people start having hart attacks and strokes people are going to notice.
“They can’t admit they were wrong now” True, but they’ll find some scapegoat.

BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago
Reply to  mwhite

I love to make predictions but I was spectacularly wrong on one of them. Before the vaccines were rolled out, I predicted that the PCR tests would be “adjusted” to show far fewer cases of COVD (once lots of people started to get vaccinated). My thought was that it would be a disaster for the vaccine narrative if 70 percent of the population got vaccinated … and “cases” were still sky-high.This would prove that the vaccines don’t work.

Well, 70 percent of the country dutifully got vaccinated and “cases” doubled – deaths and hospitalizations also remained high.

And, lo and behold, the push for mandatory vaccines became more strident and authoritarian. Somehow the very thing I thought they couldn’t allow (undeniable evidence the vaccines don’t work) did happen. And this was spun to mean that the vaccines were more important than ever.

When I made that prediction, I didn’t know I was now living in Alice’s Wonderland.

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  mwhite

Most people will never admit it’s a problem because nobody wants to live with the feeling that they are at risk of a heart attack. They’ll convince themselves of any other explanation to live more at ease.

Francis64
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

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mwhite
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ej6PIVnHeQ

Hypothesis for the post vaccine myocarditis and the possibility of hidden myocarditis.

PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago
Reply to  mwhite

Thanks for link. Fascinating!

NeilofWatford
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

According to the Hindustan Times Warne had Covid a few months ago and was double jabbed.

Early Doubter
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

‘Get vaccinated and learn to live with it’: Shane Warne
July 27, 2021 – 10:18AM

Former cricketer Shane Warne says it’s now a matter of “getting on with it” and learning to live with COVID-19 by getting vaccinated.

NickR
4 years ago

These people have blood on their hands.

rtj1211
rtj1211
4 years ago

Right, they’re no longer controlling policy.

Next step is making them the subjects of criminal investigations and putting them where they belong.

Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
4 years ago
Reply to  Jonny S.

What are the odds he/she/it is a ‘safe pair of hands’?

TSull
TSull
4 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

Do you mean six feet under?

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago

Knighthoods all round for services to gouging the taxpayer.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago

Nothing has really been lifted, its just been shifted…out of sight. Check out the UKHSA “new guidance”. Nothing has changed that much. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/public-reminded-to-stay-safe-as-covid-19-england-restrictions-lift

DodosArentDead
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Correct. All part of the overall reset plan.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago
Reply to  DodosArentDead

Great question! The only reason they might stop is if they were worried about being exposed and faced consequences. But they know they are not going to be exposed and will never face negative consequences.

For this, they can thank their friends in the mainstream media “watchdog press.”

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Something has quite significantly changed here (there’s also a good TCW article on this in the overview, BTW): While we’re not definitely out of the woods yet, at the moment, these people are fuming on the backseat and/or preaching to the choir of true believers. If all goes well, they’ll become progressively less important until they’re just petty sects with weird ideas nobody cares about.

They won’t ever really stop.

unmaskthetruth
4 years ago

Great news. Now we can all get back to our normal lives. All seems like a bad dream now.

Mulgan
Mulgan
4 years ago

Put ‘em away like sage and onion stuffing balls

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Mulgan

They’ll be back. There’s still huge mileage in the “Follow the Science” cr*p.

BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Of course they will be back. Every one of these “public health agencies” now has more employees and much larger budgets. They are not going to suddenly retreat into the background.

Promoting vaccines – from the flu vaccine, shingles vaccine, pneumonia vaccine to the COVID vaccine for children 6 months and older – is what these agencies do. And they use tax payer money for all their advertising, on top of the billions of dollars in free advertising they get from their media partners.

Star
4 years ago

Funny how a big rise in so-called “cases” means “Panic!” in December, but then in March (when they want people to get ready to spend lots of money on leisure and flights and holidays) it can be disregarded and doesn’t mean shee-yit.

Meanwhile, the FTSE100 is 3.5% down today as I type…

…and if anyone thinks NATO could win a war against Russia, I suggest they click here. Keti, by the way, is Georgian and she sings for a group with its roots in Kazakhstan. Many other links could make the same point. Morale is higher in Russia. It’s down the toilet in the west.

tom171uk
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Morale is down the toilet because we have had two years of being well and truly f*cked over by our own government.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

That’s historically usual, the difference recently is they haven’t tried to hide how much they rob us!

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

There is no war between NATO and Russia and it’s seriously unlikely that there’ll be one. Putin has enough troubles subdueing Ukraine. Why would he voluntarily open a second front with a stronger opponent?

There’s also no big rise in cases (of positive test results). Unfortunately, Johnson was talked into letting the testing free-for-all go on for another month. Hence, we’ll be looking forward to another month of meaningless numbers.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

May be worth a watch?

“Putin‘s Power & Western Impotence”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he25Rl0fE1c

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

I managed until 01:42 of idle babbling when the

We believe that everybody should have the same values as a nice, woke public school girl, age 16. No, it ain’t true!

came. I’m not American. And I don’t have time to waste on American nonsense of this kind. Neither the counter- nor the pro-nonsense.

tom171uk
4 years ago

Great. Now can I visit my Mum in her care home without shoving a stick up my nose and reporting the result to the state? Oh, and paying to do it?

It ain’t over by a long shot.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

Similarly, can I go abroad and then return to Britain without being under the same obligation?

John Dee
4 years ago

I’ve decided that SAGE is a good collective noun for parasitic w***ers.

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago

“itS tHe EnD oF tHe pANdeMic”

There. Never. Was. A. Pandemic.

rtaylor
4 years ago

I wouldn’t want to have SAGE on my CV or be connected to any on Linkedin when the die-off picks up pace.

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago
Reply to  rtaylor

In the first couple of weeks of Lockdown Number One, I was getting at least three enquiries a day from recruiters wanting me to “work at the forefront of medical technology”. I ignored the lot.

rtaylor
4 years ago

Good man.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  rtaylor

A shop in the local mall has a sign reading We train our staff to be experts. Whenever I’m walking past that, I can’t help thinking about the possibilty of angry members of the public storming in there, So YOU are these experts I kept reading about!, followed by an outburst of violence.

🙂 🙂

I certainly wouldn’t want to be called an expert on anything at the moment, regardless of my expertise.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

‘SAGE’

The mother of all misnomers

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Or maybe not: That’s what they aspire to be: Soothsayers, sorcerers and witches of outstanding experience, ability and wisdom. Just the irrational, anti-science lot they happen to be.

Liz F
Liz F
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

But doesn’t SAGE stand for Stupid Ars*holes Generating Excrement?

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Liz F

Stung And Got Everyone

Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
4 years ago
Reply to  Liz F

State-sponsered Antagonists Guiding Etiquette

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Well, they sagely conned a lot of people and filled their own bank accounts, so perhaps it was an appropriate tag after all?

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

They’ve been totally discredited so probably best they go.

Liz F
Liz F
4 years ago

So if the “pandemic” is over, does that mean the jab juices will be suspended as they only have Emergency Use Authorisation?

BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago

“Next time we’ll need better advisers …”

What about NO advisers? Let citizens decide for themselves what they should or shouldn’t do to protect their own health.

In America, we should disband the CDC, NIH and all 50 State Health Agencies. Can anyone make a convincing argument that, in the net, these agencies have saved lives? It would be much easier to make a compelling argument that the policies and “guidance” of these agencies have contributed/caused the unnecessary deaths of thousands of U.S. citizens.

In his book “The Real Fauci,” RFK, Jr. makes a persuasive argument that “public health” has become far worse since these agencies became far larger and more powerful.

 

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

Perhaps if they only got paid for medicine 5 years after treatment ?

The regulator is there to increase the profits of patent rent-seeking business at the expense of patients.

lutherkehrt@gmail.com
lutherkehrt@gmail.com
4 years ago

Until they call an official end to the emergency, and stop coercing people into being jabbed and tested, both pintless activities (or worse)it isn’t over.

doobedoobedo
doobedoobedo
4 years ago

Covid’s over – there’s a war to promote now.

lutherkehrt@gmail.com
lutherkehrt@gmail.com
4 years ago

Until the emergency is ended, and they stop coercing people into having pointless jabs and tests nothing is over.

lordsnooty
4 years ago

Gird your loins, I’m afraid there will be no Victory Virus VV day since a new Variant is due in the next week or two, the PI variant. It will be ten times more transmissible than Omicron and 100 times more deadly than Ebola.

BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago

Yep. For example, I don’t think Austria has rescinded its Mandatory Vaccine (and mandatory Vaccine Passport) Law. This is the one where the government can fine you $4,000 for not getting an experimental “vaccine.”

lordsnooty
4 years ago

re :Profanity and abuse will be removed and may lead to a permanent ban.

SAGE rickly deserve much Profanity and abuse. At least let me say, good riddance to bad rubbish, now ban me if you wish.

swiftyUK
swiftyUK
4 years ago

As the ‘pandemic’ is over, shouldn’t the so-called ‘vaccines’ be withdrawn as they were only given Emergency Use Authorisation and have not been formally approved

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  swiftyUK

But that would imply the jabs have nothing to do with health?!?

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  swiftyUK

Logically yes. Followed by an outbreak of suits for damages caused by it, if it’s use continues.

Boomer Bloke
4 years ago

I’m wondering when they will be stood up…against a wall.

Jo Starlin
4 years ago

*Insert profanity and abuse of your choice here*

Ross Hendry
4 years ago

Professor Carl Heneghan says it all.

Whitty and Vallance aka “the Chuckle brothers” can go and perform their miserablist act elsewhere. No doubt it made them feel terribly important but most of us got their number and sussed their association with Big Pharma.

Bye boys, stay safe – not. Take a long walk on a short pier, preferably with the overgrown computer nerd Prof. Pantsdown and his German floosie.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Ross Hendry

“Professor Neil Ferguson’s married lover declared she was enjoying home-schooling her children and spending more time with her husband while secretly leaving their £1.9million home for liaisons with the eminent scientist, MailOnline can reveal today.”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8293057/How-Neil-Fergusons-married-lover-enjoys-perfect-family-life.html

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prick
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Two slags

mwhite
4 years ago

So basically two winters and then went into decline, just like the Spanish flu and all the other pandemics.

BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago
Reply to  mwhite

It will probably be back in next year’s “cold and flu season.” It’s so obvious this is a seasonal disease/virus. Of course next year they will probably do away with testing and/or reduce the PCR cycle threshold number to 22.

paul parmenter
paul parmenter
4 years ago

So what comes next?

  1. A well-deserved raft of criminal charges; or
  2. Gongs and golden handshakes all round.

No prizes for your prediction.

BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago

BTW, thanks to The Daily Skeptic and its brave and smart contributors for highlighting so many of the findings and issues that probably helped lead to the end of this Adviser Group and a change in policy.

See? Dissent matters and is kind of important … Which is no doubt why dissent is now being criminalized and free speech attacked and abolished. Sigh.

paul parmenter
paul parmenter
4 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

Good point. If everyone in the country had knuckled under without a whimper and stayed in thrall to this bunch, does anyone have any doubt that they would have remained ensconced in place, and no doubt piling on an endless stream of “recommendations” to keep us under their thumbs where they think we all belong?

huxleypiggles
4 years ago

Right get the duckin lot of them in court for crimes against humanity.