Scientists Reluctant to Study Vaccine Side Effects, Notes Top Journal

Given the policies many governments have adopted with respect to Covid vaccines – namely, making the lives of unvaccinated people as difficult as possible, while constantly expanding the definition of ‘unvaccinated’ – you’d hope we’d have a very good understanding of vaccine side effects.

It’s one thing to mandate vaccines that have been around for decades, such as those against polio and tetanus. It’s quite another to mandate novel vaccines whose approval process was expedited, and for which we have less than two years of follow-up data.

While current evidence suggests that serious side effects are rare, the same is true of Covid itself when we’re talking about healthy, young people or those with a prior infection. Hence it’s by no means clear that vaccination actually makes sense for these people – especially if you factor in the possibility of unknown, long-term effects.  

So far, there’s evidence of an increased risk of blood clots following the Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca vaccines, and an increased risk of heart inflammation following the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines. While the absolute risks are still low, any side effects – however rare – have to be taken seriously.

What’s more, there’s evidence that side effects are more common in young people and those who’ve already had Covid – two groups that face very little risk from the disease itself.

However, we still don’t know exactly what the risk of side effects is for specific subgroups, such as ‘people aged 18–30 with a prior infection’. In addition, some conditions that have been linked to the vaccines (including one that resembles long Covid) are not yet well-understood.

Shouldn’t scientists be rushing to answer these and other unanswered questions about vaccine side effects? You’d certainly think so. But unfortunately, that isn’t the way science works in our current, politicised era.

As this surprisingly candid report in the journal Science notes, scientists have other things to consider aside from how pressing certain questions might be:

Probing possible side effects presents a dilemma to researchers: They risk fomenting rejection of vaccines that are generally safe, effective, and crucial to saving lives. “You have to be very careful” before tying COVID-19 vaccines to complications, Nath cautions. “You can make the wrong conclusion. … The implications are huge.” [Avindra Nath is clinical director at the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke]

Researchers are reluctant to work on vaccine side effects for fear of causing, or being accused of causing, ‘vaccine hesitancy’. The Science report goes on:

Other researchers note the scientific community is uneasy about studying such effects. “Everyone is tiptoeing around it,” Pretorius says. “I’ve talked to a lot of clinicians and researchers at various universities, and they don’t want to touch it.” [Resia Pretorius is a physiologist at Stellenbosch University in South Africa]

Needless to say, this does not bode well for science. Nor does it bode well for vaccine uptake in the long term. After all, people will only take vaccines – whether for Covid or anything else – if they trust the medical establishment. And ignoring side effects, even rare ones, isn’t the way to build trust.

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FrankFisher
4 years ago

Because $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  FrankFisher

Possibly, but also perhaps fear of being ostracised and even losing the job.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  FrankFisher

Ha ha I’ve come in after the phantom down ticker, so I am 1 more valid than y’all. In the land of the downticked the non downticked man is king.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

By the time I arrived, you had 5! That’s what you get for being a smartypants – the down ticker is really, really cross with you.

Draper233
4 years ago

“vaccine hesitancy”

Or, as I like to call it, vaccine logic.

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago
Reply to  Draper233

I have an allergy to poison, so no thanks.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

I have an allergy to stupid, so no thanks

A Y M
4 years ago
Reply to  Draper233

I was vaccine hesitant on this and other vaccines but I was vaccinated.. After this load of sheite, I’m completely anti vax and f-n proud of it.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Draper233

Yes, I have a lifelong ‘arsenic hesitancy’ – how very irrational of me!

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

I admit to being ricin hesitant.

Paul B
4 years ago

Were I to have a child today I don’t think I would give them any vaccines.

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

Me neither.. in fact I wouldn’t have to think about it.. not even for a split second..

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

Especially after reading this :

“Dissolving Illusions – Disease, Vaccines and the Forgotten History”( Suzanne Humphries,MD, Roman Bystrianyk

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

This is probably along the same lines:https://pennybutler.com/summary-covid-19/

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

When the evidence seems to suggest that hygiene, clean water and modern sewage facilities have done more than vaccines to promote human health, that’s possibly the best course.

SAGE LIARS
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

‘seems to suggest’ means conclusive evidence in the case of vaccines, which are the most overrated rubbish in the medical world!!!

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago

Plenty of scientist very concerned with the government pharmaceutical complex trying to shut them up. Have you ever mentioned the continuing Metropolitan Police investigation?

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago

No thats real UK resistance so its out of bounds. Move along nothing to see here. But look at this graph from the UKHSA, thats better, focus on infections and cases.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

So many strings will be being pulled to have this vital investigation kicked into the long grass – this is the UK after all .

Are they really going to watch their House of Covid Cards and all their lies brought crashing down on their heads?

Oh, and has anyone graciously told HM the Queen that a Drosten Covid PCR Test cannot detect a live Corona virus of any description and that 97% of ‘Positive’ Tests are ‘false’?

I do hope so….but I doubt it.

SAGE LIARS
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

only 97%??…..100% is the true figure

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Wall Street will decide

Draper233
4 years ago

“Hence it’s by no means clear that vaccination actually makes sense for these people”

I appreciate you have to take a more academic approach Noah, so i’ll provide it in layman’s terms:

It makes NO sense.

Jo
Jo
4 years ago

Since when have vaccines for polio etc been mandated here? They’re not and nothing should be mandated. We have (or used to have) rule of law which until recently with new “crimes” made sense for everyone. There was a pretty broad consensus that you shouldn’t kill, assault, threaten or steal.

I hate this drift towards the “reasonableness” of people having to have “safe” medical treatment. Fuck off.

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo

Did you just commit a ‘hate speech’ against these vaccines?
This type of hate speech is a thinly veiled form of anti-semitism and that, as we all know, is the worst crime of all.

DodosArentDead
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

Hilarious.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo

Smallpox was mandated, with disastrous effects. https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/

Jo
Jo
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Yes, but it was quite a while ago when there was still the death penalty (which I’s sure will return) and women didn’t vote. I was naive enough pre 2020 to think that in some respects we were making progress…. actually no, in reality, I wasn’t. I think a lot of us can think back and see the signals of our demise – in the medical industries, in education and in the looming tech take over.
I first noticed decline in 1990s when I looked at the exam papers my mother was marking for her pupils.

Dissolving Illusions is worth a read, btw.

I expect my swear word will be removed. Perhaps the mods have hangovers and are in bed, or is it an algorithm? Do they work on Sundays?

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo

Virus Mania is also worth reading.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

I keep meaning to get ‘pseudo pandemic’,he is sometimes on UK Column News and has detailed knowledge on the WEF and Agenda 2030 etc. Also The New World Order by A. Ralph Epprson written back in 1989. And of course The Real Dr fauci.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

Ian Davies – ‘Pseudo Pandemic.’

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo

That’s why they want rid of people of a certain age.. they have memories, and weren’t looking into screens all day..

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

The generation that used to throw mud as kids and be out all day on their bikes.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo

A lot off working class men didn’t vote either (and are still bottom of the pile, apparently). Actually, someone suggested on here that they might have been better off and took effective industrial action instead. Looks like Canada’s government doesn’t like industrial action though.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo

It could be the small Pox vaccines were mandated, that’s why there were the first antivax movement back then. Apparently, the more kids got the jab, the more died.

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo

Hmmm, “kill, assault, threaten or steal”. . .
Sounds like Government policy.

GlassHalfFull
4 years ago

Science as with many things in life requires funding to survive.
People with the money have an agenda.
Go against the agenda and you lose the funding.
The whole system is corrupt.

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

This is where the governmental corruption is so devastating.
Governments sould be paying for the research that may provide cheap medical benefit to the public, the research that pharma has no desire to conduct, but sadly most Goverments serve pharma rather than public health.

GlassHalfFull
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

Honest politicians are few and far between.
The honest ones are stuck on the back benches or hounded out of office.
The corrupt ones achieve high office and then leave politics for a lucrative career vis the revolving door of multi-national corporations and organisations that supported and funded them.

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

Even politicians that want to be honest are vulnerable.

The media controls public opinion. And the media is either directly owned or funded by the oligarchs that run the world. So it’s almost impossible for a politician to go his or her own way.

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Very true.
Those with the money fund corrupt people that they can control into positions of power.
This is what Epstein and Maxwell were doing, filming rich and powerful men having sex with underage girls. That footage then controls that man with the elite funding them into positions of power to do the bidding of the elite.
Step out of line and the footage is released.

Can you imagine how much footage there is of Boris?
That man has no control over his penis, the phrase ‘rat up a drain pipe’ springs to mind.

Massimo Osti
4 years ago

2 of my (frequently tested) triple-jabbed colleagues are on their 3rd round of isolations after ‘testing positive’ for a third time each. What are these people not quite grasping yet?

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago
Reply to  Massimo Osti

But think how much worse it would have been without the special sauce.
They would all be dead by now if not for the magical healing power of the clot shots.

Hester
Hester
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

How many times have I heard that said by the triple vaccinated who keep getting Covid,

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Massimo Osti

They are mad. First jab from fear; second jab to be sure; third jab because they have lost their minds.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Fourth jab….oblivion …”owning nothing and being ‘happy”. ( K. Schwab)

Mumbo Jumbo
4 years ago
Reply to  Massimo Osti

I am sure they have all assured you that they would probably have died if not for the vaccine, they always do.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Mumbo Jumbo

What they fail to see is that there is time yet !

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Massimo Osti

The nettle?

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Sorry, Annie. I didn’t read this far down before drawing the same conclusion.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Massimo Osti

I’m guessing it’s ‘the nettle’.

ellie-em
4 years ago
Reply to  Massimo Osti

Miraculous, they’ve been saved from certain death 3 times since being jabbed! They’ll be devastated when the free testing ceases in April and their score card is affected. Deprived from knowing how many more times they managed to cheat death – how will they survive?

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago

‘It’s one thing to mandate vaccines that have been around for decades, such as those against polio and tetanus.’

I disagree.
Forcing people or coercing people to undergo any medical procedure is always wrong.

If you start to look into pre covid vaccines, how they are made, what goes into them and how truly shoddy the clinical safety testing is (sometimes it only lasts a few days) you will likely conclude that vaccines clealry do far more harm than good.

TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

Indeed. Anyone that reads the Fauci book will never trust big pharma again. Not only will I not be taking any future vaccines, I will not be taking any medication licensed in the last 10 years without doing my own research first.

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

I am half way through the Fauci book, it is very well done.
Have you seen Del Bigtree and his programme The High Wire, he is very good at exposing the pharmaceutical giants and their deadly products.

This is an excellent extract from an episode where Del shows footage from a WHO vaccine meeting in 2019.
The WHO were discussing why so many people and Doctors were rejecting vaccines, and what to do about it.
In short the WHO experts admit that most of the criticisms that are being made by the dreaded ‘anti-vaxxers’ are valid.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/wOXtTS4djENX/

The footage is gold dust, the World’s greatest vaccine advocates admitting that their safety testing is utterly duff and that they don’t monitor adverse events properly.

Hester
Hester
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

The High Wire is probably the best news programme now, they investigate thoroughly, if they make an error they admit and correct it, they have through ICAN exposed the cess pit surrounding Fauci and Big Pharma, it is through their legal team that a judge has ruled that the CDC has to bring forward the Pfizer trial data in 8 months and not the 75 years the CDC wanted. Incidentally the CDC a Government body is now appealing the judges ruling, and Pfizer has put its Lawyers in charge of fighting the case with the CDC. Thats a Pharmaceutical giant that is trying to hide its test results, who is supposed to be monitored and checked by the CDC a supposed independent Government body, working together to prevent exposure of a business with vested interests test data. If that doesn’t send out a worrying signal I dont know what does. The show is usually around 2 hours long, it is well worth the time, you get to see whats going on around the world that the BBC, MSM and big tech dont want you to see. For example in Australia there was a freedom rally with 800K to a million… Read more »

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

The UKcolumn is also worth watching.

https://www.ukcolumn.org/

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

Top class journalism from UK Column. 👍

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

Yes to both.

As for all mainstream outlets, Frank Zappa springs to mind:
“Journalism isn’t dead – it just smells funny” (suitably adapted)

Mayo
Mayo
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

The High Wire is probably the best news programme now, they investigate thoroughly, if they make an error they admit and correct it, they have through ICAN exposed the cess pit surrounding Fauci and Big Pharma

Yep. I don’t think I’ve missed a single episode in the past year.

sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  Mayo

I love Del. He makes me feel optimistic in this sorry shit show of a situation.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

I’m with you.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

May I take the liberty of suggesting that not taking any medication licensed in the last 10 years, could do with being extended back to licensed since 2000.
Academia and ‘health care’ UK and US were controlled, because in pocket of Pharma, long before 2000.
All national governments and WHO and similar succumbed slightly more recently.
Pharma, IT are in WEFetal.
It’s not only one person or even only Finance.
Within WEFetal there’s a thread of eugenicists dating back decades and includes the RF and Gates’ numerous ‘cover-stories’.
It’s one government of whole world, not only human world. As such it surpasses politics and national things.
There’s no point in sniping at lower down because all that happens is that with each arm or leg cut off, head (WEFetal) immediately sprouts worse and 10 for each one cut off.
Our good health is bad for Pharma’s profits.
Money talks brcuae very, very few do not have a price i.e. very, very few cannot be bought.

lorrinet
lorrinet
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

“Medical science has made such huge advances that there is barely a healthy human being left.”

Aldous Huxley.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

I’ll second that. I’m about halfway through and determined not to take big pharma ‘branded’ drugs at any time in the future.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

Am I allowed to order that someone be injected against their will? Or is it just the special people who know better than the peasants?
Who are these gods?

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

Forcing people or coercing people to undergo any medical procedure is always wrong.”

an established medical ethical principle until the stench of corruption masked it. It really isn’t difficult to grasp.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Well that Nuremberg Code seems to have been a paper tiger, very disappointing.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

Mandating any medical procedure is wrong.

Mandates make slaves.

Sforzesca
Sforzesca
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

Just in case you missed it

http://vaccinepapers.org/

Username1
4 years ago

A personal story:

My second cousin was admitted to hospital for a minor operation in Paris on Friday 28th January. He had a prostate problem (not cancer). 43 year old so it seems young for that sort of thing? 
There was a complication, something to do with an internal catheter malfunction after the operation. His health condition worsened over the weekend. He was fit and healthy prior, working just days before. 

On the Sunday night he had a heart attack and died. I don’t know if the French authorities have done an autopsy. Obviously I don’t know exactly what happened but it makes me uneasy after seeing so many reports of fit younger people having heart attacks. He was a sports journalist working internationally so it’s 100% certain he had 3 jabs. 

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

I’m hearing a lot of scary anecdotal evidence stories like this at the moment. In particular many sudden diagnoses of aggressive cancer.

Username1
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Yes. “Very Rare” side effects doesn’t seem that way if you’re the person suffering. It’s 100% non-rare to the individual. Sorry to hear you got struck by lightning but it’s very rare.

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

When the vaccine knackers your immune system just about anything can get you and because the variety of injuries are so wide it is hard to pin it down to the injections.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

That is when they will announce a new ‘AIDS pandemic’ and Fauci and his ally Gates will reveal a new ‘vaccine’ to follow AZT.
Or perhaps Moderna already have ‘one of their “Mode RNA” experimental products ‘they made earlier’ on the shelf ready ?

The trick to watch will be how they seek to distance what they will style as “Immune Defficiency” from their mRNA Covid injections and dodge those ‘tricky’ “What made the immune systen defficient?” questions, ( the ones not asked by MSM “journos”)

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

Which is why it is an absolute certainty that the injections were designed this way.

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

Plausible Deniabilty.

Practiced Deafness.

Pharmacutical Debasement.

Probabalistic Death.

Plebian Depopulation.

Psychological Destruction.

Partly Done.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

Getting less “rare” by the day as we see!

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Yes, “anecdotal’ used to be a term of mild derision meaning ‘unreliable’ but of course it usually means first or second-hand person-to-person accounts – and so they are probably more reliable than anything published in the MSM and the now disgraceful “Lugenpresse”!

mishmash
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

Could be jab related, could be thrombosis caused by the catheter itself, or a combination of both.

The old bat
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

Might be a bit off topic but my mother in law died in hospital from a hospital acquired infection introduced via a urinary catheter – she went very quickly. (My father in law died from hospital acquired injuries, so the pair were essentially killed by our wonderful NHS).

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

Numbers steadily rising by the day.

cubby
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

In my job I get to meet 40 – 50 people a week and health issues often come up. A number of people have had secondary conditions which could easily be put down to side effects. Not one of them was either able or allowed or considered it necessary to fill in a report on adverse effects. The under – reporting on sometimes serious side effects would appear to be massive – I can quite believe that less than 10% of cases are properly registered.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  cubby

A Harvard study estimated that only 1% were officially registered.
I know 9 people with reactions varying from hospitalisation (in intensive care) to at least two days’ absence from work (not work-shy people – people who rarely took a day off). All reactions occurred within less than a week of being jabbed.
Not one of the cases was registered.

Hester
Hester
4 years ago

The side effects will not be investigated because if results show that these vaccines are damaging and killing people, which it seems they are doing, acknowledging this fact will wipe out the careers of the Big pharma drug pushers,the Gates octopus, Fauci Whitty, Valance and all the parasitic advisors who have forced these products on people, the university and medical researchers, Doctors, and of course our very own politicians. Thats too many self interested parties world wide. Better that a million or so across the world die and are damaged than the catastrophic effect of the truth coming out, In terms of the cowardly excuse that investigation will only make people vaccine hesitant and thats why nothing is done, well guess what the fact that these 3 or is it 4 injections have dones zero, zilch, nada in stopping the virus but has actually made things worse for many means that people do and will question the need for vaccines. I have had many of the traditional vaccines in my life, without question, because they had been well tested and used methods that utilised the disease itself to produce an immune response. But even before I became aware of the… Read more »

cubby
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

I think you are wise to trust no one on health matters. Isn’t it a fact that GPs in the UK are paid for prescribing statins and blood pressure meds?

TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

I think it will come out. Once they stop shirking and share all-cause mortality by vaccination status, there’s going to be a lot of questions to answer.

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

You are correct. Loss of confidence across the board in the organisations involved will happen, and that might have another ‘side effect’.

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago

Extremely worrying rhetoric coming from Bojo – saying Russia is planning the biggest war since WW2. Deagel anyone, or just a distraction ie Cold War 2.0 to take attention from the Convid mess.

Hester
Hester
4 years ago

Distraction, Johnson desperate to be Churchill no 2 a good war will allow him to play the part, plus its a distraction from the entire Covid mess he created, and whats a few hundred thousand British soldiers deaths when you are trying to build a legacy. Putin needs to do nothing, then the Americans and Johnson will have nothing to distract from the mess they have made of their countries

TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

Yet again, they have backed themselves into a corner. Now they have to make a war happen to avoid looking like the idiots they are. The scary thing is that these morons have launch codes.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

We don’t have a few hundred thousand soldiers; we don’t even have one hundred thousand soldiers, or much of a navy for that matter.

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Thank goodness.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

If we did, they’d all be isolating because pozzie tests..

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

The must have cut the Army because they are frightened of a coup!

Hester
Hester
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

I meant Americans, British and the other poor souls who will be sent in by their cowardly heads of Government, draft dodger Biden, Johnson no military record unlike Churchill, Macron, life long civil servant, Trudeau snow boarding expert. Its so easy to make others do your fighting for you

ellie-em
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

I’ve often wondered if it was mandatory that at least 50% of Parliament would have to be compulsorily enlisted to serve on the frontline when war was discussed, if they would be so free and easy with their votes to support military action and interference…

caipirinha17
caipirinha17
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

I’m expecting those who have or are arriving on the beaches in the south of England will be offered citizenship in return for taking up arms against whoever is on the other side. Lots of young men from a culture that doesn’t baulk at the thought of taking lives. Of course the plan is for most of them not to survive, or get sent abroad and not return. Wasn’t that one of the tactics of certain other wartime leaders often painted as heroes? In the meantime, most of the country gets flattened and the PM can rebuild it as directed by the climate change (Op Depop) enthusiasts.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  caipirinha17

No chance – they are needed to staff the Care Homes and the NHS on ‘zero-hours contracts’ when they have got rid of all salaried qualified staff!

Try not to be ill or get old!

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  caipirinha17

Build Back Better!

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

Johnson to Churchill – the fine Art of bathos in politics!

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

We haven’t got a few hundred thousand British soldiers.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago

Well as he tells lies continually, I think you can rest assured that that is not going to happen.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

Johnson is a cypher who knows nothing about Global Politics and less about Russia, other than what he has been told to read out on his tele-prompter, primed by Victoria Nuland and the CIA – he is a “Biden in waiting” .

It is obvious that the large forces amassed in the Ukraine by the US and Nato are destined to support the Ukraine Army attack on the Russian people in the Donbas region, where frightened families and children have been evacuated to Russia after heavy shelling by Ukrainian Army units with their “International (Nato)Advisers looking on.

Plenty of direct on- the-ground evidence on RT. – watch it before it is censored!

What a shame we no longer have independent MSM journalism in the UK – first time in nearly 200 years !

Gregoryno6
4 years ago

Scientists who avoid studying vaccine side effects for fear of creating vax hesitancy will create vax hesitancy.
That’s my theory and I’d like some government department to throw me a mil or two so I can test it.

CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
4 years ago

It’s sad to see a scientific journal pushing mumbo jumbo conspiracy theories. Luckily I’m smart enough to only take medical advice from senior government ministers like Bozo and Jabit .

George L
4 years ago

And you Noah Carle.. are reluctant to be straight about side effects.. your quote is below..

“While current evidence suggests that serious side effects are rare”

Sounds very much like either Government or BBC speak to me.. controlled opposition..

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

Here’s a few ‘serious’ side effects Mr Carle.. get your laughing gear around those..

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Jo
Jo
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

Or go on Telegram and scroll through the posts on the “They say it’s rare” channel. One paramedic told a person whose father she was taking to hospital for a heart attack that it was the 7th that week and it was only Wednesday. First question she asked was whether the father had had “vaccination” recently.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo

Best tell them you had it, they may want to make an example of you.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

What does “rare” mean? Nobody I know personally?

Jo
Jo
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

What is “rare” as far as I can see, is the reporting of adverse events to the Yellow Card system. I know more people with adverse effects – some minor, some very serious and some in between – than I can actually call to memory but I only know ONE who has reported it.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo

Exactly ‘Yellow Card X Ten” might be closer to the real numbers!

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

“BBC speak”… AKA B*llsh*t

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago

Just another example of how the world is now run. People are scared of putting their heads above the parapet. Until that changes, not hold my breath, ‘truth’ is only what ‘they’ want it to be. The longer this goes on, ‘truth’ will become totally relative, never absolute.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Unlike death, which is never relative and always absolute.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Yes …and it comes even to our oppressors!

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Is the world ‘run’ ?

I thought that Deranged Homicidal Chaos driven by monied Sociopathic Psychopaths was the ‘new model’ for world Government?

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago

‘Probing possible side effects presents a dilemma to researchers: They risk fomenting rejection of vaccines that are generally safe, effective, and crucial to saving lives. “You have to be very careful” before tying COVID-19 vaccines to complications, Nath cautions. “You can make the wrong conclusion. … The implications are huge.” [Avindra Nath is clinical director at the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke]’

Pfizers six month safety data showed 50% higher all cause mortality in the vaccine group over placebo, it also showed a 500% increase in death from heart attacks. This despite the trials being manipulated to try to show that the vaccines were safe and effective.

This is why Pfizer ended the trial after six months when it was scheduled to go on for 3 years, the deaths were mounting, the longer it went on the more obvious it was that the shots were killers.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

This is not scientific caution. Caution, in medical matters, is meant to be based on the principle, “First do no harm”.
So let’s check that first.

Hopeless - "TN,BN"
4 years ago

It’s a La-La Land of mercenary and wilful ignorance and denial. “Sadly” Gates gave the game away (for those who hadn’t sussed him before), and as usual, it’s all about the redistribution of vast hoards of money into a few pockets. So much for “Science” and “Medical Ethics”.

RickH
4 years ago

Noah so desperately wants to believe that the ‘vaccinations’ are effective and that the judgment is harder than it is.

CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
4 years ago

Couple paid £1.85 Billion by NHS for PPE . Mrs Stoute said she acted fast – revealing she had a tip -off at the end of 2019, then put in huge advance orders. Is this more evidence of a plandemic? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10529007/How-UK-couple-paid-1-85-BILLION-NHS-PPE-splashed-30m-paradise-Caribbean-villa.html

Bella Donna
4 years ago

I bet they weren’t the only ones! Who tipped them off – that is what we need to know.

Hopeless - "TN,BN"
4 years ago

I see that P. Patel is, quote,”ready to introduce legislation to target anyone who administers a substance to someone without their consent, to cause harm”.

This refers to “spiking”, but in the clandestine addition of drugs to drinks sense, rather than the hypodermic. If the word “consent” was preceded by “informed”, it well-describes an aspect of the “vaccines” campaigns.

CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
4 years ago

She’s not known for lateral thinking, there are no shades of grey in her world of absolutes and capital letter slogans.

Sforzesca
Sforzesca
4 years ago

One day, all being well, S.23 and 24 of the the good old Offences against the Person Act, 1861 will be used.
No need for anything else really.

Apart from the political will to actually do it.
The Science is clear, these jabs do and will cause harm, they know, or should know-given their “expertise”. So, I look forward to the prosecutions beginning.

And remember, Befehl ist befehl.- offers no excuse.

Bella Donna
4 years ago

Yes that could come back to ‘bite’ her. 😁

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Slightly off topic

I had a dream last night that Matt Hancock was strapped to the front of a Ukrainian tank

CGL
CGL
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

I wouldn’t have wanted to wake up from that one – would just want to go back to sleep and keep replaying it over and over.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

That wasn’t a dream, it was a beatific vision.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Make it Real!

Eric Olthwaite
4 years ago

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David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Eric Olthwaite

Yes Yeadon… the man who could have changed the direction of this nightmare and called out the frauds – cancelled by the Reptiles who run Facebook and Twitter. You Tube. What Ap. Google etc etc etc – the new self-appointed tin-pot Tyrants of the Human Mind and by all the cowardly UK MSM- bought off by ‘we know who’!

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Also Wolfgang Wodark stopped the Swine Flu scam in its tracks. They were better prepared for him this time with the MSM ready to do a hit piece on him.

cubby
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

I love Yeadon! I can’t quite understand why you haven’t been down-voted by the cwnt who has down-voted every other comment on this thread – would you tell us your secret?

timsk
4 years ago

” . . .While current evidence suggests that serious side effects are rare. . .”
“. . . Researchers are reluctant to work on vaccine side effects for fear of causing, or being accused of causing, ‘vaccine hesitancy’. . .”

Noah,
The two sentences I’ve quoted from your article may not contradict one another but, equally, they don’t sit well together.

If little or no research is being done into the side effects, then surely it’s not possible to conclude that serious side effects are rare? Yellow Card data shows 1,453,605 adverse reactions and 2,010 deaths. Unless and until there is peer reviewed research that shows beyond doubt that the bulk of these numbers have nothing at all to do with the ‘vaccines’, then it’s reasonable to assume that all of them are in some way connected to them. When one further considers that these reported figures could be little more than 10% of the true number, then the current evidence suggests the exact opposite of what you assert. Namely, that serious side effects from the jabs are extremely common.

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago
Reply to  timsk

Like Nelson with his telescope.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

… putting the telescope to his blind arm….

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Please stop saying vaccine. It’s not a vaccine

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

‘Scientists Reluctant to Study the side effects of what some describe as vaccines’
There you are fixed at no extra charge

Sforzesca
Sforzesca
4 years ago

How odd.
But then again the stranglehold bigpharma has on the media/scientists/doctors/NHS etc it is perhaps not odd at all.
One only has to look at the harmful effects (not side effects) of vaccines in general :-

http://vaccinepapers.org/

to even begin to understand the harm that bigpharma has done, is doing and will continue to do, to humanity.
Not to worry too much though, another mrna jab will be developed to cure the “side effects” of this one.

Watch the incidence of all auto immune diseases, bad enough anyway, rocket.
I cannot recommend Robert F. Kennedy’s book highly enough.

DodosArentDead
4 years ago

“Prepare for a rollercoaster ride here as we trek where few have gone before. I think perhaps this is the first interview of someone who was at Ground Zero of the scamdemic — the so called ‘vax’ trials. And it is as ugly as you can imagine.”

https://paine.tv/exclusive-pfizer-vax-trial-manager-tells-all-blows-whistle-on-data-brook-jacksons-shocking-revelations-during-her-first-sit-down/

DodosArentDead
4 years ago
Reply to  DodosArentDead

From 13′ 50″ mins in on 1st tape.

A passerby
A passerby
4 years ago
  1. Mentioning this now seems almost academic, but I’ve always believed natural colds are to our immune system what a service is to a car (I’m sure there are far better analogies but this was the first that came to mind). I believe that our noses operate fulltime (not just in the obvious matter) but in tracking down new viruses to ensure our immune systems stay as up-to-date as necessary (no, I can’t expand on necessary). The mask wearing, social distancing and isolation rules must have made a substantial impact on this natural and free function (and I’ve not taken into account any degradation caused by the jabs).
  2. It seems doing the opposite (to mask wearing etc, etc) makes far more sense.
TheGreenGoblin
TheGreenGoblin
4 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

Yes agreed. The modern obsession with cleanliness and eschewing all potential pathogens is misguided.

One example of what this has produced: widespread nut allergies.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Between March 2020 and now how many people died within 28 days of eating a BigMac

What there are no figures? Why not?

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

How many die within 28 days of a verruca diagnosis?
We could be living through a verruca pandemic right now!
Everyone should wear a verruca sock as a precaution.