Lockdown Debate Shut Down by Smearing of Sceptical Scientists on Social Media
Stanford Professor of Medicine John Ioannidis has written a paper for BMJ Open Research exloring why the pro-lockdown message of the John Snow Memorandum became accepted as the consensus view among senior scientists while the ‘focused protection’ message of the Great Barrington Declaration was seen as the view of a fringe minority, even though the key signatories of the GMB and the key signatories of the JSM had a comparable number of citations in scientific journals. His conclusion: the authors of the JSM had more followers on social media and were uninhibited about using that reach to smear their opponents. Sarah Knapton, the Science Editor of the Telegraph, has more.
Anti-lockdown scientists were viewed as having ‘fringe’ ideas because those calling for draconian restrictions had more followers on social media, a study has shown.
Professor John Ioannidis of Stanford University, an expert in data science and the reliability of research, studied the expertise of authors who signed the Great Barrington Declaration (GBD) compared with signatories of the John Snow Memorandum.
The GBD called for vulnerable people to be shielded while allowing immunity to build up in the rest of the public to avoid huge costs to society, education and public health.
In contrast, the John Snow Memorandum (JSM) argued that such a policy of herd immunity was unethical.
Prof Ioannidis said he wanted to examine the “prevailing narrative” that the Great Barrington Declaration was a minority view among experts, and found that “Twitter firepower” had helped shape the conversation.
In an article published in BMJ Open Research, he found that both letters were authored by very influential experts, but that the John Snow Memorandum authors had a far greater reach on social media, which made it appear that their view had more support.
By November 2021, just four key signatories of the GBD had more than 50,000 Twitter followers, compared with 13 of the key authors of the JSM.
Prof Ioannidis concluded: “Both the Great Barrington Declaration and John Snow Memorandum include many stellar scientists, but JSM has far more powerful social media presence and this may have shaped the impression that it is the dominant narrative.
“GBD is clearly not a fringe minority report compared with JSM, as many social media and media allude.
“If knowledgeable scientists can have a strong social media presence, massively communicating accurate information to followers, the effect may be highly beneficial.
“Conversely, if scientists themselves are affected by the same problems (misinformation, animosity, loss of decorum and disinhibition, among others) when they communicate in social media, the consequences may be negative.”
Prof Ioannidis also said signatories of the JSM had contributed to the vilification of authors of the GBD through their tweets and op-eds.
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Very early on Twitter banned 150,000 bot accounts that piled on any officials who said we should stay open, these same bots supported the lockdown loonies.
Oddly enough the same experience saw many Leavers driven away during the referendum campaign. Just coincidence I’m sure.
Other factors:
1) censorship and cancelling on social media platforms
2) no discussion allowed from JSM side, but GBD willing to discuss
3) mainstream media corrupt and biased
4) heavily-sponsored government propaganda
5) acadamics financially backed by pharma
I could go on …
Key factor is…… sceptics spout nonsense….
Oh, do FO!
When one has seen and reported as many likely vaccine complications as I have via the Yellow Card system scepticism is the only possible response.
Another “Fon”?
So, being a vegetable I guess you have an extremely limited working knowledge as to how our scientific understanding of the world progresses? The clue is in the word scepticism. You must also think that AGW is a fact too?
Typical babyish and empty response here…
Oh no your’e back again!!!!
I am not sure if the Ioannidis paper is meant to be taken seriously. The Kardashian Index is intended to be a joke not a serious measure of anything.
What’s not a joke is the anti-science censorship imposed globally by governments and their MSM and Big tech lackeys
Are you sure you know what science is?
Why don’t you write about things you are sure about?
Because I think it is interesting to raise questions. Do you have something against that practice?
Just that it obviously is what it happens to be.
People familiar with Amdahl vs IBM call this FUD (spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt something one happens to be opposed to). It’s an underhand sophist’s tactic for winning discussions.
As an ex-IBM employee I am fairly familiar with FUD. However, in this case I was just asking a question.
Do you think Ioannidis has time to waste on elaborate jokes?
Prof Ioannidis is peddling disinformation.
The GBD was against government policy to have a lockdown, the JSM endorsed it. Simple.
So the Government policy to cause massive harm to the country should not be opposed because it’s a Government policy? You must be a civil servant.
Obviously most object to questions. They just like to have their views supported.
They can’t justify them.
Are you being serious, Professor Ioannidis? is not a question. It’s an insult as it implies that what the addressed person said/ wrote is so outrageously wrong that it can only either have been a prank or coming from someone who’s basically a jabbering loon.
A good way to answer this question when being the person who was addressed would be expressed by the nice, German verb beohrfeigen (repeatedly slapping someone alternatingly on the left and right ear). That’s the kind of stuff which used to end in duels in former times.
It wasn’t a question, it was a pathetic trolling remark, like yours. You need psychotherapy mate.
I suppose we shouldn’t be surprised after the biggest psychological campaign of fear in modern times.
The Dorset Biological Warfare Experiments 1963-75
https://www.nr23.net/govt/spray_dorset.htm
The Lyme Bay Trials, Dorset.
https://poisoned805894151.wordpress.com/gallery/
We have certainly reached a Hell on Earth, when reasoned discussion, facts and considered actions are determined, not by reasonable and informed people, but by ravening mobs on “social media”. The medical, scientific, media, politicians and other parties who joined the mob are a disgrace to themselves, their so-called professions and the human race.
All of this nonsense makes me so glad I don’t do Twatter, Instacrap or the other one.
It sounds exhausting.
It was. Thankfully, I was kicked off. For presenting facts.
I’m on somewhere north of my 20th account. It’s just a game at this point.
Twitter will forbid you from cancelling the previous 19 and use all 19 in their current user numbers they present to shareholders.
This is correct. The only thing you can use a “permanently suspended” (temporarily murdered?) account for is to report posts.
This tells you everything that you need to know about their priorities.
Reminds me of the old joke about the Scotsman bathing in the Firth of Forth; “I’ve swum in the Red Sea, Dead Sea, but never the WC”.
Substitute Twitter, Facebook and the rest for “WC”, and it’s spot on.
Yeah, tell us something we don’t know.
I was banned from Twitter for … quoting HM Government.
That could be misinformation to be fair…
Could be??!!!
Ask my philosopher friend – no such thing as certainty, only cumulative probability!
But but but the GBD is false information, you have to ask a politician or the MSM for the truth.
Who needs independent world class respected scientists when you have these airheads to advise the world.
Aided and abetted by London Bubble meedja-obsessed wind-twisters who think that a handful of justice warrior blue-tick loons on Twatter reflect the mood of the demos.
The correct response to cultist cancel mobs remains “Your boos mean nothing to me, I’ve seen what makes you cheer.”
This misuse of the *anti*-social media happened in early to mid March 2020, long before even many sceptics including me woke up.
We were temporarily fooled by the CCP, Ferguson, Farrar & Fauci propaganda, straight out of China and Italy.
By April 2020, I’d woken up.
Twitter is a sewer.
Sewers serve a purpose
They do, but they’re still full of 5H1T
Prof Ioannidis concluded: “Both the Great Barrington Declaration and John Snow Memorandum include many stellar scientists, but JSM has far more powerful social media presence and this may have shaped the impression that it is the dominant narrative. I do not think that Prof. Ioannidis is wrong very often, But I think he is wrong here. The decision to run a complete lockdown was not decided by considering any logical argument – still less by considering the democratic weight of persons in favour or against it. It was a policy decision made by the senior establishment figures who wanted to apply the vaccine that they had just invented, and needed a compliant uninfected population to apply it to. Once that decision had been made, any random fact can be adduced in its favour, and any lie made up to smear any opposition. That is the easy bit. Stop thinking that the sceptics ‘lost’ the debate. There was no debate to be had. They were simply cancelled, with no consideration given to anything they said, even if it was logically and mathematically proven beyond doubt. We are seeing the same method of ‘decision-making’ in our energy supply at the moment. It… Read more »
And, they don’t even like high winds!
The electricity generating windmills in Finland have been Made in China, and already the blades are full of cracks. Buy cheap, get cheap.
“There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper.
People who consider price alone are this man’s lawful prey.”
John Ruskin 1819 – 1900
That’s right – they were cancelled. Very little to do with who had the most followers on social media. Google actively targetted its algorithms to wipe the GBD off its search results and, if you searched for it, promoted all the ‘experts’ and journalists who were against it. If you ever wanted to find information impartially the last place one would go to is Google, since they give you all the reasons why not to believe the truth, and why the truth is wrong.
So you have BigTech companies who are actively preventing people being exposed to the truth, and actively spreading lies and disinformation.
Letter from Raymond Strom, a Canadian. Thank you, Ray! MAY GOD KEEP OUR LAND: So, the last two days were perhaps the saddest two days that Canada has ever seen. trudeau’s bringing in of the Emergencies Act, illegally I might add, was the bludgeoning of freedom in the entire Western world. This guy’s individual disregard for true, historical Western values is astounding. It was heart-rending as we watched the truckers pack it up at the Coutts border crossing. The efforts there had been compromised, either by infiltration or by overreach by RCMP. The details are not entirely clear at this point. The truckers, in the form of the Freedom 2022 group, had vowed that this was to be a peaceful event, and they would maintain it as such at any cost. Had antifa gotten into the ranks? Time will tell, but the accounts would seem to indicate so. We are Canadians, we are NOT antifa! The final moments were a demonstration of our true patriots. Law abiding citizens, only wanting the best for Canada and the freedoms that it represents. So there they stood, locked arm in arm, juxtaposed to the line of police officers. As they stood there, they sang a rousing rendition of Oh Canada, some with tears in their… Read more »
Great news – The ‘end-covid’ virus appears to be catching….
here, all of Switzerland is declared ‘free’, as of tomorrow.
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics/switzerland-lifts-most-covid-19-restrictions/47352480
I can see Svizzera from here, but Italy for-whatever-reason reinforced their ‘Pass requirements this week, nice to see that the next-door country is doing the opposite.
swiss info is the international service of the Swiss Broadcasting Corporation; they seem to be rather more open than W1A 1AA
I’ll just add a SWI quote, it’s quite Barrington!
[masks] will remain compulsory until the end of March on public transport and in healthcare facilities. The government has also kept in place a requirement for people who test positive for Covid-19 to go into isolation for five days.
These two remaining measures are aimed at protecting the most vulnerable, the government said. But if the virus situation improves, they could be lifted before the end of March
As usual no mention is made of entry requirements from abroad.
Can’t confirm 100%, but it looks as though border requirements will go.
Hope they set a trend, and we ditch ours in UK
Once you can travel and do stuff without being vaxxed in lots of countries, I think the urge to get vaxxed will diminish
whatever happens at individual border won’t matter if airlines keep up their own policies. You know all those airlines who have recently received billions in emergency government bailouts? Those airlines.
Someone went to Mexico, no tests. Just masks on the plane.
This matters a lot, at least to me. I’m living in England, my parents are living in Germany and I’d really like to meet them again. I’ll be 50 this year and both of them 84, hence, postponing this for just another year rings very hollow to me. Corona’s witnesses may believe that they’re – except for the terrible ‘rona – immortal, but I don’t think that’s true.
Keep following this page
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home/krankheiten/ausbrueche-epidemien-pandemien/aktuelle-ausbrueche-epidemien/novel-cov/empfehlungen-fuer-reisende/quarantaene-einreisende.html
it currently links to a press release which did mention “an end to health requirements for travel”, whilst saying that Cantons have some possibilities to require passes.
it snowed Monday, wonder if that had some influence on things
“Unvaccinated visitors from the United States will not be allowed to enter Switzerland.
Fully vaccinated visitors from the United States can enter Switzerland without restrictions.”
https://www.kayak.com/travel-restrictions/switzerland
That’s currently. I want to know about future plans, if any, that will happen when the other restrictions are dropped.
So, no real changes then.
“On account of the COVID-19 pandemic, certain restrictions are in place for entering Switzerland. Anyone who has not been vaccinated or recovered from COVID must present a negative test result on entering Switzerland. In addition, anyone entering by air or long-distance bus (coach) must complete an entry form.”
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home/krankheiten/ausbrueche-epidemien-pandemien/aktuelle-ausbrueche-epidemien/novel-cov/empfehlungen-fuer-reisende/quarantaene-einreisende.html
Isn’t that currently?
Like you I reside in Helvetia. Tonight I visited a pub in Lausanne – taking a risk – but no passes were checked. All the measures will be dropped tomorrow bar masking in public transport and some public inside spaces until the end of March. Hysteria seems over for the moment. I think public opinion has shifted for the better too. As you say – bizarre what is happening over the borders in France, Italy, Austria.
It was already a fait accompli, Covid was just a catalyst in my opinion. BBC captured by Government, Government captured by the NHS, NHS captured by Big Pharma, Big Pharma captured by you know who…..’What we got here is failure to communicate’.
It’s not a battle between truth and error, the wise and the foolish, the ethical and the unethical when played out in the media. It is essentially who controls the narrative who wins over the populace.
BBC correspondent Anthony Zurcher sold his soul to the devil when he announced that, having tried to be even handed in the 2016 US presidential election, the person who won was the the ‘wrong’ one, so he declared that he would nevermore be impartial, and would always work to manipulate his readers and auditors to do the ‘right’ thing (i.e. vote Democrat), and encouraged his colleagues to do likewise.
It’s because the media have been infested with the likes of Zurcher that we are in the position we are in. They determine the narrative because the BBC hasn’t booted them out for behaving like this: in fact, it encourages them.
The BBC is the British government. It always has been.
Up to a point. I don’t think the BBC are overly keen on relaxing covid restrictions. Neither were they keen on Brexit being delivered despite it being government policy. Doubt they’d be happy with a small-c conservative political party winning an election.
I tried to listen to Radio 4 a few times last year (Christmas 2020) for “something civilised” but it was all Covid propaganda and I had to turn it off after a minute or two.
The other radio channels were no better with the ‘Stay Safe and Protect Others’ drivel.
“FDA Executive Discusses Vaccines”
FDA Executive Discusses Vaccines | Real Climate Science
Moderna Stock Crash: Losses Top $140 Billion As Insiders Sell Millions Of Dollars In Shares (forbes.com)
These people are nuts!! – YouTube
Strange people.
Actually I think this is very important research into a topic that has (literally) affected the daily lives of almost every person on earth for the last two years. Questions need to be asked. And while I doubt Professor Ionnidis’ will be the last word, he certainly raises troubling questions. Let’s start. I’ll confess prior ignorance of the John Snow Memorandum. Are we talking about the Soho pump guy? The news reader guy? Or the Game of Thrones guy? I’ll go with the Soho pump guy, but who knows, at this point, why they chose to call it that. What I do know is this: The John Snow Memorandum turned out to be full of shit. Starting with: “MASS INFECTION IS NOT AN OPTION: WE MUST DO MORE TO PROTECT OUR YOUNG” A noble intention, perhaps. But since we’ve seen the ONS data, which shows that death and serious illness from covid-19 among young people and children was pretty much non-existent, then you have to ask if shutting schools, mandating face masks, and severely limiting social interactions really was such a good thing for our young people. The John Snow Memorandum came out in mid-2020. Did we know that covid-19… Read more »
News from Canada. Trudeau and Canadian government have interests in Pfizer…
https://youtu.be/GH83mObwP1M
A competent gov would have gathered scientists from across the spectrum of views, safely away from ludicrous MSM and social media, to hammer out a rational approach based on all known approaches and possible lines of inquiry.
A useless gov polarised opinion, never consulted other views, ignored the public, and got almost everything wrong multiple times.
Go figure.
There is Science and there is THE SCIENCE
If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. Besides the annoyance, reCAPTCHA has other issues Free speech includes the right to PRIVACY PrivacyThe current iteration of the system has been criticized for its reliance on tracking cookies and promotion of vendor lock-in with Google services; administrators are encouraged to include reCAPTCHA tracking code in all pages of their website to analyze the behavior and “risk” of users, which determines the level of friction presented when a reCAPTCHA prompt is used. Google stated in its privacy policy that user data collected in this manner is not used for personalized advertising. It was also discovered that the system favors those who have an active Google account login, and displays a higher risk towards those using anonymizing proxies and VPN services.[21] Concerns were raised regarding privacy when Google announced reCAPTCHA v3.0, as it allows Google to track users on non-Google websites.[21] In April 2020, Cloudflare switched from reCAPTCHA to hCaptcha, citing privacy concerns over Google’s potential use of the data they recollect through reCAPTCHA for targeted advertising[40] and to cut down on operating costs since a considerable portion of Cloudflare’s customers are free, non-paying customers. In response, Google told… Read more »
Yes, we’ve started using Google reCAPTCHA in the last couple of days. I resisted doing so for some time, but the mods were reporting increased levels of spam, which is a nuisance, so we’re just trying to make things a bit easier for them. But as regards privacy, I’ve logged in and am posting this comment using Tor Browser, so I’m not convinced your privacy objections are valid. And as for Cloudflare, I’m not sure they’re such great heroes when it comes to privacy – it can often be difficult accessing Cloudflare-protected sites using Tor, which is not the case with us.
I would also note that it’s basically impossible to use the internet without Google being involved somehow. It was some time ago now, but a tech person tried blocking all Google IP addresses from their PC and found that it made the internet effectively unusable. Not a great situation, but that’s where we are I’m afraid.
Do you trust google? know about browser fingerprinting? Metadata?
2 x recaptcha.net domains
7 x google domains
16 cookies only 19% of which are Necessary.
3 tracking cookies from google are persistant for 2 years
Why does reCAPTCHA timeout at all? it’s so annoying to have to log out and in again.
How many people use TOR here? You often link videos in the posts, it’s almost impossible to watch a video through TOR. It’s much more convinient to use a privacy hardened firefox browser.
Part of the resistance to the encroaching technocracy is to DeFANG, anyone not familiar with that term should do some research.
I’m afraid I don’t have time to reply in full, but no I don’t trust Google and by the way they won’t allow us to run their adverts on this site to generate some income, so it’s not like we’re best buddies. I’m not sure what you mean about reCAPTCHA timing out, but I could look into it. Please could you email me with further details, i.e. what browser are you using and how can I replicate it?
After a while if you leave the tab open, then try to post, it says something like “recapcha error score threshold not met” in a red bannor that flashes up for a few seconds, site says I’m still logged in, so I have to log out/in again to post. It’s FF, but seriously customised along the lines of the privacytools.io settings + DoH, I had to disable uBlock since the reCAPCHA thing so it’s not that, could be adblocker <shrug>
Don’t waste much time on it, I’m not going to log in much with that thing gatekeeping.
TOR is attracting attention, last time I looked, all the worldwide onion exit nodes were ‘owned’ by certain agencies. [A young Australian started his own exit nodes, gathered/published a lot of data, but is currently in Belmarsh]
Some TOR installations leak, some feature traffic staining (i.p. headers saying “look at me”), downloads of TOR enabling software have been flagged.
Not a lot of privacy left, sadly.
if you’re lucky, you might get a bit of pseudonymity, but forget the unlinkable stuff.
Tor (and it is “Tor”, not “TOR” – sorry to be pedantic) has a known vulnerability in that if the exit node and the entry node are both “owned”, then a lot of information (like IP addresses and possibly other information that can be linked based on timing) are known to the attacker. So it’s far from foolproof. There are also timing attacks that can be performed if you control the pipes (i.e., in the case of Iran when it slowed down the internet inside the country massively in 2009, which I’m still convinced was part of a network timing attack, even though I spoke to someone working on Tor at the time and they denied it). However, unless you’re a spy (in which case you’d be using a Tor Hidden Service, which is theoretically “safe” unless internally compromised) then the risks of using Tor are probably negligible, if for no other reason than that government agencies wouldn’t show their hand by giving that information to third parties. You’re right in that there is no true anonymity online, but in what sphere of life is there? So often the risks are misunderstood and exaggerated, in my opinion. But then maybe… Read more »
A good summation of the issues, tho it’s got worse I think. I’m not really bothered about complete anonymity security wise, not from .gov types anyway, (tho it would be nice) it’s more about privacy. Tor is bad for browsing anyway, it’s just too slow. I use a privacy hardened browser + DoH, (which is probably going to get banned when the legislation catches up with tech) tho they’ll allow DoT I think. It’s worth learning the advanced settings of uBlock Origin and installing AdBlocker Ultimate as a minimum, DoH is easy to set-up on FF, use Quad9 as a DNS server it’s free, privacy focused, and non profit. More here: https://www.reddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/g6en3j/full_compiled_list_of_recommended_privacysecurity/ I had the privacy argument with a mate of mine, so I challenged him to find the cheapest flight he could from London to France on his laptop, I got a quote from my privacy hardened browser on the same flight for £58 cheaper, course that’s only part of it, there are huge issues comming down the pipe IMO, think life insurance, medical insurance, credit ratings, and later, social credit ratings. Course we don’t know what the laws are going to be, but they’re all heading in the… Read more »
I did the same “find a cheap flight” experiment on a number of platforms. It was much cheaper, in my case, on a cheap Android phone. But I agree that the ‘privacy’ aspect is undervalued by ‘net users.
I’m sure we’ll see “surge pricing” and metadata based pricing on supermarket shelf goods, so far only MediaW*rld (= Currys) in Italy have the required smart LCD price tags on the shelves. Use of long-range BT beacons, sigh!
For browsing, having interacted with the opaque CAB Browser and Certification forum, I prefer to defend outside the browser, suggesting appliances such as R-pi “pi-hole”, it’s nice to see Apple devices complaining when they lose DNS data, when that’s back in user control. IPv6, off.
Then we can focus on semi-private browsing, looking for rational explanations about the varied governments latest proclamations, and seeking free & honest debate. Like the great barrington declaration, “the enemy” can be put on the “pi-hole” BLOC list. I have millions of websites on my lists. Browser based blockers have leaked data, in the past.
Words are important
Please do not use the words handed down to you by the dictators
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IT IS NOT ‘LOCKDOWN’
Please use
‘Detention without trial’
‘Internment’
‘False imprisonment’
‘House arrest’
‘Internal exile’
etc
Hope that helps
Lockdown is really a good term, too. AFAIK, it refers to locking all people living in a particular prison into their individual cells.
so much for free speech, I post about the annoyancy and PRIVACY issues of reCAPTCHA and the post disappears….censorship: same reason I stopped using the forum
Maybe I should complain to the FSU…. LOL
If you’re not part of the solution, you are part of the problem
Bye now.
Moderator here. The post has not disappeared, it is in for Moderation, which can take between a minute and an hour, depending on the time of day and on who is available to look at everything coming in [we are all volunteers with day jobs!]. Please bear with us, it is not being ignored
Isn’t it nice when the Mods engage? I remember having nice chats with a Guardian mod called Mabel in the early 00s, back on GU Talk, and then the bitch banned me for “maliciously quoting Guardian editorials out of context”.
Why don’t you leave the comment up until you get around to moderating it then?
Eventually one person will be left on Twitter. Everyone else will have been banned, unpersoned or – like the rest of us – left in disgust. It’s a toss up whether that person will be Justin Trudeau or Owen Jones.
I think you are underestimating the number of sheep who just love to ‘like’ and ‘retweet’ crap on social media. If they post anything it’s likely to be just agreeing with others as they never have an original thought of their own.
No mention of death, heart attacks or strokes?
Most side effects are mild and should not last longer than a week, such as:
Coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccines side effects and safety – NHS
It’s only mild death.
And if they hadn’t been clotshotted it would have been worse, and they would have been more dead.
I see no mention of Wikipedia. Check it out. You’re in for a treat:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Barrington_Declaration
Warning! Don’t read that if you’ve had any clotshots. The increased blood pressure won’t play nicely with your myocarditis.
You’ll need to get over the fact that vaccinations are safe and affective.
Your nonsensical messages have no impact.
If you have a close look, you’ll see vaccinations are at a very low level now, so not really worth your effort to discourage others.
Try howling at the moon, to show your understanding of the world.
“safe and affective”
Oh dear…..
“If you have a close look, you’ll see vaccinations are at a very low level now, so not really worth your effort to discourage others.”
I’m sure we can find places where murder and rape are at low levels, and in those places we’ll just let murders and rapes happen, because who cares if something evil is happening, as long as it’s not happening very much?
“Effective”, perhaps?
A fascinating approach. If fewer people do something detrimental to themselves, then the reduced casualties are OK, but whatever caused the problem is thereby exonerated or justified?
A justification worthy of a Nuremberg trial defence.
They’ve been effective so far in covering up the Big Lie, that’s about it. Funny how in so many places once they started vaxxing people, all-cause mortality went up.
This is evidently rayc under a different guise. Fon as was.
Once a bot, always a bot.
Thanks for your reply leek. I’m glad that my message has resonated with you. One day you are going to have an epiphany and learn that all the trust that you blindly placed in (what you complacently assumed to be) trusted authorities, was folly at best. At that point, be assured that if I was personally acquainted with you, I would feel anger for you as the victim you became, so long as you haven’t coerced others into the same folly.
Those “very low level” vaccinations have today been announced for ramping up in 5-12 year olds. For the past few weeks, they have been covertly giving them out to any 5-12 year olds that live with someone that can wangle an “at risk” status (such as mild asthma). Since then I have seen at least two strange reports in my local press each week, of children ending up in ICU after collapsing with “medical issues” in shopping centres, or dying in play centres. That’s for an area with around a million population. So I think it is well worth my effort to discourage others.
Shame the “Great Barrington Declaration” is associated with a location related to a great move forward in technology advancement.
Is that supposed to be an argument?
The “social media” was on the side of lockdowns. When people are locked, they have to communicate over the “social media” & other Big Tech products. Big Tech companies near doubled their value over the pandemic.
What we are faced with here and everywhere Is like the difference between ‘orality’ and ‘literacy’, with a new technology ( internet) changing our cognition. Western civilisation was built on the written word, it allowed for our thoughts, history, science to be written down on paper which remained unaltered once written. That is not to say there were not revisions continually , but they also were written down , and so a logic was produced that was factually consistent. Cultures that used oral means of communication, story telling , to get ideas across and remember history, used words that changed meaning, the stories retold whilst containing the main elements could vary in content. In the majority of cases, but not all, the western written word has replaced the oral tradition. Now with the internet, social media and identity politics a new technology is interrupting this written word logic. Social pressure can overcome the logic of previously held ‘facts’ written on paper or computer screens. What people feel especially as part of a tribe/mob is more important than logic. Mass Formation is another example of this effect. This is not going away, just as the written word didn’t. If people want… Read more »
The belief that text “written down on paper which remained unaltered once written” is open to debate as well. At least anyone’s interpretation of it when they read it. I guess it depends on your definition of “Western civilisation”, especially with relation to time. It’s not that long ago that large numbers of Western people were illiterate, or at least only read things like the Sun, and just believed what they were taught in Church and so on.
I liked Google in the old days, they had a sense of humour. If you typed in “White people stole my car” Google would ask: “Did you mean ‘black people stole my car’?”