Djokovic: I’d Rather Never Play a Grand Slam Again Than Have a Covid Vaccine

World No. 1 tennis player Novak Djokovic has said he would rather miss out on future tennis competitions than be forced to get a Covid vaccine. He also said he was not anti-vaccine but supported an individual’s right to choose. BBC News has the story.

Djokovic was asked if he would sacrifice taking part in competitions such as Wimbledon and the French Open over his stance on the vaccine.

“Yes, that is the price that I’m willing to pay,” he said.

The 20-times Grand Slam winner was deported from Australia last month after the Government cancelled his visa in a row over his vaccine status.

Djokovic, who is the world’s number one men’s tennis player, said he had obtained a medical exemption to enter the country to play in the Australian Open as he had recently recovered from COVID-19.

However, the country’s immigration minister, Alex Hawke, personally cancelled the 34-year-old’s visa, on the grounds that his presence could incite “civil unrest” and encourage anti-vaccine sentiment.

“I was never against vaccination,” he told the BBC, confirming that he’d had vaccines as a child, “but I’ve always supported the freedom to choose what you put in your body.” …

Djokovic said he hoped vaccination requirements in certain tournaments would change, adding that he was hoping that he “can play for many more years”.

But he also confirmed he was willing to forego the chance to become statistically the greatest male tennis player of all time because he felt so strongly. Djokovic’s rival, Rafael Nadal, has won 21 Grand Slam singles titles – the most of any male competitor.

Asked why, he replied: “Because the principles of decision making on my body are more important than any title or anything else. I’m trying to be in tune with my body as much as I possibly can.”

Djokovic said he had “always been a great student of wellness, wellbeing, health, nutrition”, and that his decision had been partly influenced by the positive impact that factors such as changing his diet and his sleeping patterns, had had on his abilities as an athlete.

He said he was “keeping [his] mind open” about the possibility of being vaccinated in the future, “because we are all trying to find collectively, a best possible solution to end Covid”.

“I was never against vaccination. I understand that globally, everyone is trying to put a big effort into handling this virus and seeing, hopefully, an end soon to this virus.”

Clearing up some misunderstandings, Djokovic added that he was not deported from Australia because he was unvaccinated or broke any rules, but because “the Minister for Immigration used his discretion to cancel my visa based on his perception that I might create some anti-vax sentiment in the country or in the city, which I completely disagree with.”

BBC Medical Editor Fergus Walsh took it upon himself in the BBC article to attempt a rebuttal of Djokovic’s vaccine hesitancy, asking “What more does he want to know?”

With 60% of the world’s population vaccinated and 10 billion doses administered, there is a “wealth of information” which shows the vaccines’ “safety profile is excellent”, Walsh claims.

But if the vaccines’ safety profile is excellent, why has the U.S. VAERS system recorded nearly three times as many fatal adverse reactions since the Covid vaccines were rolled out than in all previous years combined? There have been 24,168 deaths reported in 2021 and so far in 2022 (21,947 in 2021 and 2,221 in the first five weeks of 2022), compared with 8,748 for all years from 1990 to 2020 combined. Reported deaths in 2021 were 36 times higher than in 2019, the previous highest number, when 605 were reported.

If the vaccines’ safety profile is excellent, why has the U.K. warned against giving the AstraZeneca vaccine to under-40s owing to risk of blood clots, and Denmark ceased using the AstraZeneca shot altogether? Why have Germany and France suspended the Moderna vaccine for the under-30s owing to risk of heart inflammation? Why has Vietnam suspended the Pfizer vaccine after three schoolchildren died of an “overreaction”? If this is an excellent safety profile, I’d hate to see a poor one.

Walsh points out that the regulators and scientists involved in the trials have said “no corners were cut on safety”. Yet the vaccines have been approved and rolled out while Phase 3 trials are still ongoing, and as Walsh admits, “side-effects did only show up once the jabs started being rolled out among millions of people”.

Walsh claims Djokovic is evidently not at zero risk from Covid, as he has had it twice. But as someone who has recovered from Covid he is highly protected against serious disease (before he was infected his risk was also very low), with a recent study from Qatar finding that even with Omicron the risk of serious disease on reinfection is effectively zero.

It’s a pity the BBC continues to publish such misleading information about the vaccines.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago

BBC Medical Editor Fergus Walsh took it upon himself in the BBC article to attempt a rebuttal of Djokovic’s vaccine hesitancy, asking “What more does he want to know?”

It’s true – there are none so blind as those who will not see. Particularly if opening your eyes might cost you something – like your pay packet.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

BBC = also now known as “the Enemy of truth”!

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

BBC news reports Neil Ferguson as a scientist, rather than the hoaxer she is.

Also a scientist, according to BBC Scotland News, is Greta Thunberg, who’s never in school.

tom171uk
4 years ago

It is a measure of the utter madness of our modern world that anybody should take seriously the outbursts of an autistic high school dropout.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

Correct.

She is spouting mediaevalist drivel and condemns the industrial revolution, she is a doom goblin.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago

I try not to slag her off too much, she obviously has a lot of problems!

Gregoryno6
4 years ago

When all you can say is ‘Damn, I wish I’d thought of that’.

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Corky Ringspot
4 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

Very very funny!

marebobowl
marebobowl
4 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

😂😂😂😂😂😂it really has become 🤡🌏 in Canada these days thanks to you know ho.

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago

New U.K. Lab Report sent to Police confirms huge amounts of Graphene Nano in all Covid-19 Vaccines
https://www.bitchute.com/video/pfSyHRCIDxFG/

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago

Police report link here = PDF download http://ukcitizen2021.org/

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago

Further information:

Official U.K. Lab Report confirms Covid-19 Vaccines definitely contain Graphene Oxide
https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/02/13/uk-lab-confirms-graphene-in-covid-vaccines/

The Covid-19 vaccines have been forensically examined in the United Kingdom and a laboratory report confirms they contain graphene nanomaterials that can penetrate the body’s natural barriers and damage the central nervous system, and Graphene Oxide which can damage internal organs, destroy blood health, trigger cancer, and cause changes in gene function among a host of other ill effects…..

RedhotScot
4 years ago

As informative as this document is (It’s not a “Police Report”) it has a very long way to go so don’t get your hopes up.

Assuming the phials were legally seized in the first place, and the police act on them, they need to commission an ‘independent’ laboratory to replicate the results.

There is obviously the ‘right to reply’ by the manufacturers and on a subject as technical as this, with new technology, there are going to be reasons for the inclusion of at least some of the items found.

What needs to be remembered is that the manufacturers are well aware the ‘vaccinations’ could be, and were likely to be, analysed by curious individuals which would suggest incompetence rather than malicious intent if these particles are considered dangerous.

I’m as convinced as you are that these drugs are dangerous but I’m not convinced the discovery of undeclared components is enough to secure a conviction of anyone.

Darryl
4 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

The establishment look after their own, can’t see any chance of public officials being held to account. These people certainly aren’t stupid and usually make sure there is no legal repercussions for themselves, big pharma have certainly passed the buck, and to be fair do include an insert warning of possible effects of taking their product.

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

NO the manufacturers are murdering criminal filth as has been PROVEN by the hot lots causing excessive death and the methodical way the manufacturers took turns in releasong bad muderous batches and the nanochips and graphene and all the dead and maimed victims of these evil people. This is no accident. Also it explains clearly how they obtained the vials so you clearly have not read the document. Youve been flagged up as a disingenuous operator before. Another red mark on you.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

Yes …some of us have known this for a year!

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Yeah, I got sick shouting about that in June 2020.

nickbowes
nickbowes
4 years ago

The world`s No 1 tennis player and perhaps the healthiest too.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  nickbowes

Bring on the Alternative World Championships “Vax Free”!

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Good idea.

A list of cafes, bars, pubs, clubs, libraries, swimming pools, sports places, taxi firms, shops, and other establishments and services that are either completely spike-free or aimed mostly at spike-free customers would be useful too.

leek
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

The pubs could all be called “The idiot’s Arms”

disgruntled246
disgruntled246
4 years ago
Reply to  leek

I think most of us know which arms belong to idiots.

annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  leek

…and you would be free not to enter if you felt unsafe. Bless. That’s the point of freedom- you don’t have to do something.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  nickbowes

It may well turn out that Djok and a few other unjabbed pros are the only elite players still able to complete a long match, if only he/they can stay fit for a few more years…

Proveritate
4 years ago

BBC Medical Editor Fergus Walsh took it upon himself in the BBC article to attempt a rebuttal of Djokovic’s vaccine hesitancy, asking “What more does he want to know?”

Typical arrogant and ignorant reporting from the BBC.

In fact, there probably isn’t much more that he needs to know than what is already known: the vaccines are neither safe nor effective. The more properly informed people are about them, the more will decline them.

That’s why anyone telling the truth about them gets demonized and is silenced, because they (quite properly) increase ‘vaccine hesitancy’.

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  Proveritate

You cant have an effective vaccine against something that has never been proven to exist. Theyre not vaccines – they are genetic and graphene bioweapons.

Dr. Lanka und Dr. Andrew Kaufman – Antwort an Corona-Ausschuß
https://www.bitchute.com/video/XRYdew0nGexl/

A lot of time for Lee Merrit:

Dr. Thomas Cowan interviewed by Dr. Lee Merritt
https://www.bitchute.com/video/qdAgSJRfSp7R/

BIG mistake to open this film up with David Icke. Hes in it for this opening anecdote and thats it. The rest is solid.

Andrew Kaufman ~ TERRAIN (PART#1) – THE (ACTUAL) FILM [EDITED DOWN TO 2 HOURS – ALL THE GOOD STUFF]
https://www.bitchute.com/video/GUkkY2skhKyU/

Rick Bradford
Rick Bradford
4 years ago
Reply to  Proveritate

The BBC is making a false argument. It doesn’t matter whether the vaccines are safe and effective – Djokovic still has the right not to want to take them.

Djokovic is not anti-vax, he simply believes, in the words of Bret Weinstein: “Not this disease, not these vaccines, not these health authorities.

Proveritate
4 years ago
Reply to  Rick Bradford

That’s a different point. If you listen to the interview you’ll hear that he is asked whether he might in future change his mind based on further information. Djokovic states that he has an open mind on the matter.

It is really this that Walsh is addressing, and what we see is the kind of arrogance from an ignorant journalist who wonders what more information could come to light since billions of doses have been given? He’s incapable, it seems, of understanding that there can be medium to long term harm, which billions of shots will not have manifested as yet. He’s forgotten the lessons of smoking, asbestos, coal mining, farmers lung and all the rest of it, where it takes years to manifest. And there is the short term harm that the BBC is lying as hard as it can to deny.

Anyone who cares to look will see the evidence that these ‘vaccines’ are dangerous to an unprecedented degree even in the short term, but BBC journalists have obviously been instructed to look the other way, and tell atrocious lies. As they do on climate change, and so many other issues.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Proveritate

What the BBC’s Fergus the Bogeyman doesn’t seem to have absorbed yet is that large swathes of the medical establishment (however tardily) have concluded that ‘omicron is the vaccine that we should have had earlier’.

leek
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

The reason he hasn’t absorbed this is it isn’t true.

Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  Proveritate

But he is scientifically illiterate. How come he lands a job like this one?

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

A quote from his Wikipoop page may be in order:

“He has won five broadcasting awards from the Medical Journalists’ Association. In December 2009, he received an honorary degree, a Doctorate of Civil Law (DCL) from Newcastle University. His citation stated that he had ‘done more than any other journalist to facilitate public comprehension of the most challenging health issues of our times’.”

He’s a “help public understanding” kind of guy. I believe there are other ways of saying that.

Proveritate
4 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

Because the BBC doesn’t want a literate scientist in the role – he can’t as easily be manipulated into talking drivel like Walsh.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Proveritate

“(Y)ou’ll hear that he is asked whether he might in future change his mind based on further information. Djokovic states that he has an open mind on the matter.

He should have asked Fergus Walsh the same question. And he may have done so, for all we know.

I won’t be surprised if next time he does a big exclusive interview he’ll go elsewhere than the BBC.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Rick Bradford

@Rick – You’ve got it wrong. Of course Novak Djokovic has the right not to accept a spiking. So do you. So do I. That’s what the BBC are saying is his main point. They are distracting from the point that this highly health-conscious man believes on the basis of a lot of knowledge and experience that the risk of being harmed by a spiking outweighs the possible benefits, and that this applies to at least the large majority of us.

leek
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Presumably, he has a medical education, then… so Where did Djokovic get his medical degree?

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  leek

Djokovic has the best medical advice money can buy!

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  leek

It’s not primarily a medical issue. Doh!

chrissybear
4 years ago
Reply to  leek

I believe it is the same establishment that Bill Gates got his medical degree from…

Andy R
Andy R
4 years ago
Reply to  leek

Please don’t feed the trolls!

conocido en valenciana
Reply to  leek

Djokovic doesn’t need one, leek. That’s not that hard to see, surely.

leek
4 years ago
Reply to  Rick Bradford

The problem is Djokovic makes his stance public, so it is no longer a personal decision. It influences people like those on this site. The BBC is stupid for giving his opinions publicity.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  leek

So, is the BBC stupid for promoting the opinions of pro-jabbers? They influence people like you, no?

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  leek

I recall the odious Blair creature having his picture taken getting (so he claimed) jabbed. So why is only one side permitted, in your totalitarian world, to influence others?

Proveritate
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Don’t expect a reply. Totalitarians can’t understand the question.

Andy R
Andy R
4 years ago
Reply to  Proveritate

Stop feeding the troll everyone!

Corky Ringspot
4 years ago
Reply to  Andy R

Sorry – will comply with your suggestion.

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago
Reply to  leek

Have a word with yourself: Djokovic was relentlessly pestered from the outset about his ‘status’. He told people that it was none of their business, but they would not leave him alone.

—————
You say:

It influences people like those on this site.

Pray tell, exactly what type of people? And what type of person would you describe youreself as?

annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  leek

Don’t be ridiculous- he didn’t make his stance public, Hawke did when he ordered him deported for political reasons. He is defending his right to choose. Presumably then, you believe that the publicly funded BBC should only ‘give publicity’ to the ‘correct’ views on every subject? Or perhaps you could simply make your own mind up – regardless of Djokovic or anyone else? Surely you are not suggesting that people are so feeble minded that they could be influenced so easily? I’m joking, obvs…

Corky Ringspot
4 years ago
Reply to  leek

Curse them for just occasionally allowing some free speech! How dare they publicise a person’s opinions! “Leek”, you’re a fascist.

conocido en valenciana
Reply to  leek

It should influence them. He’s helping to save lives and avoid injuries.

annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  Rick Bradford

Who could possibly down vote this post?

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Proveritate

My big problem is why anyone any longer listens or watches the BBC and expects anything differenet ?

It’s like a masochistic addiction or an abberant form of Stockholm Syndrome.

Cure? Don’t do it! You will feel much better!

Proveritate
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Once you have seen this, there is no way back. It’s screamingly obvious that the BBC is biased and full-on propaganda. However, many have been duped by the BBC and so can’t see it yet.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Proveritate

Let is hope the operative word is “Yet” .

Surely everyone has their own particular “so far and no further” turning point?

When “blind faith” finally collapses it is never restored and the longer people are duped the angrier they will be when they finally see the light.

bfbf334
4 years ago
Reply to  Proveritate

That would be the mask wearing sheeple then.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Proveritate

Australia’s ABC used to enjoy a high reputation, not universally but fairly widely. Certainly, it was capable of asking questions and reporting news disliked by governments.
Over the last couple of decades it was subjected to a variety of disciplinary measures which saw the rise of the compliant and sycophantic and the departure of those regarded as “difficult”.
I now find it unwatchable – literally. It’s a government broadcasting service, not a public broadcasting service. Its performance in the last two years has been disgraceful – a gross dereliction of duty.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Problem is they dominate the airwaves. Unless you just like listening to music, that is all you have apart from TalkSport and some local stations where they talk current affairs; but many of them are local BBC stations too. It just means that I end up being angry whenever I turn on the radio whether at home or in the car.

Mumbo Jumbo
4 years ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

You need to get a DAB radio and tune in to Talk Radio or GB News Radio.

annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  Mumbo Jumbo

Or better still just listen to your own music! When I got a new radio fitted in my car I didn’t even bother with the aerial.

annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Agreed- and while you’re at it stop reading newspapers. I haven’t watched or read the news for 20 years- highly recommended!

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Proveritate

Fergus Walsh “took it upon himself”, lol. That’s a bit like Tony Blair “going to war”.

Those creeps who’ve never challenged a single thing in their whole pathetic pseudo-lives must have such broad shoulders to carry all the burdens they bear on behalf of all of us.

Vxi7
Vxi7
4 years ago

Long term safety data can not exist in short time! No matter how many jabs you deliver! That’s just not how time works…

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  Vxi7

quite. if I had the time I’d look back at the history of vaccines and find how long they took to fail (the ones that did)

the RSV vaccine started killing children after 2 years
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respiratory_syncytial_virus_vaccine

Hopeless - "TN,BN"
4 years ago
Reply to  Vxi7

Perhaps a little bit of the BBC’s time-travelling Doctor Who has rubbed off on the villain known as “Walsh”.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago

They would have to be a black woman for a start!

crisisgarden
4 years ago

Sports players are very big on legacy. Djokovic must know that his will be legendary – he has used his fame and status to highlight and push back against societal lunacy, criminality and totalitarianism. And that’s worth more than any sports trophy.

🗒 Fergus Walsh

Mr Taxpayer
Mr Taxpayer
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Got to respect someone who sticks to his principles.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Stop using the regimes words

They are not vaccines

Proveritate
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

True. But that is the word the BBC used all the way through the interview, so it has to be engaged at some level.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Proveritate

Then why not use inverted commas to register scepticism?

” These are not vaccines they are poisons” ( the late Luc Montagnier, virologist and former vaccine supremo in France, Nobel Laureate)

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

My preferred term is Clotshot. It leaves people in no doubt at all as to what I think of these experimental injections!

Fraser Nelsons Underpants
Fraser Nelsons Underpants
4 years ago

I still can’t decide whether the people working for BBC News (I will not call them journalists as they do not appear to have a clue what journalism actually is) are really as ignorant, misinformed, incurious and credulous as they come across, or whether they know what they are saying is rubbish but say it anyway out of some misguided belief in the “noble lie.” Either way, the BBC’s output is utterly worthless as a news source.

crisisgarden
4 years ago

The million dollar question. I think it’s a combination of two things; the paranoid atmosphere within the institution, in which literally any question of the vaccines will be pounced on as anti-science, anti-vaxx, things Fergus Walsh cannot afford to be. This was created by cleverly poisoning the well of scepticism before the vaxx rollout. The other is stupidity. Have you ever met anyone that works for BBC News? – I have met several and I’m related to a few. They are of a very particular type; ‘successful’ (in terms of doing well at school, top of the class, good degree etc. Yet utterly compliant and unquestioning of authority (hence successful in education and career), arrogant and dim, very dim. So no need for a vast conspiracy, BBC employees will happily censor their own thoughts and investigations in order to remain in their job and please their superiors.

Fraser Nelsons Underpants
Fraser Nelsons Underpants
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I think your analysis is almost certainly spot on. I know several people in the civil service who perfectly match your description. “Successful” in the sense of achieving what is expected of “successful” people but utterly compliant and unquestioning of authority. What blows my mind though is that these people still manage to be so misinformed on these so-called vaccines. We have had the data in for months now and they are still sticking to a narrative which is demonstrably false.

crisisgarden
4 years ago

It is mind blowing. I need to keep checking myself for confirmation bias (I was after all, utterly opposed to these so-called vaccines long before they pretended to invent them) but the evidence is now incontrovertible – over 1000 peer reviewed studies showing harm, reporting systems giving off the same alarms in multiple jurisdictions, personal experience of adverse reactions amongst friends and family etc. There is no doubt left in my mind whatsoever that these devices are killing and maiming people and helping no-one. We’re witnessing a unique moment in history where the frailties of the human mind have been exploited for power and profit – in much the same that organised religion has done for thousands of years. There is clearly a capacity for human brains to trust authority over their own senses, otherwise there would never have been a single religious adherent. I suspect that when Christianity came to Europe, for instance, you and I and most people who comment here would have been the ones thinking “Nah. I’m not buying this” !

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

You’d be wrong, I am a Christian and I’ve spent even more time looking at the evidence for the truth of Christianity than I have looking at the evidence (or lack of) for the safety and efficacy of these so-called vaccines.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Do you know what, as soon as I’d typed that I regretted it. One of the things that’s happened to me over the past two years is that I find myself increasingly on the same side (if that’s what we can call it) as religious groups in this strange culture war. I was brought up Jewish and rejected my religion in early adulthood, preferring to see myself as a stone-cold materialist and pragmatist. Now, when I look at the utterly callous, corrupt and mendacious way that science conducts itself, I feel more affinity than ever with spiritual beliefs. So I’m sorry I said that, it was wrong, I was trying to highlight the way that authorities of various kinds have utilised the malleability of human minds to achieve their aims. Christianity was an inappropriate example.

bfbf334
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

The flip flop one would be more appropriate me thinks.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  bfbf334

Sorry? I’m flip-flopping?

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Many religious institutions (and I am thinking particularly of the CofE here as that’s the one I have experience of) are every bit as self-serving and hypocritical as the political establishment, with exactly the same type of people making it to the top jobs. Money and power are the CofE’s principal interests.

Just because a minority of scientists have behaved in the way they have (and a lot more have said nothing for fear of losing their jobs), that doesn’t make religion a good alternative.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

‘Just because a minority of scientists have behaved in the way they have (and a lot more have said nothing for fear of losing their jobs), that doesn’t make religion a good alternative.’

Indeed. And it’s not a binary question really. Both can contribute to the human experience and both are susceptible to corruption and other human failings. But it’s the hubris of the scientific community I have found particularly disgusting these past two years, both the ones we are all familiar and my own personal exchanges with academics and scientists, which have been every bit as dogmatic as anything I’ve heard from religion.

Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

All hierarchical groups of humans are susceptible, and prone, to corruption.

‘Science’ was financially hijacked by big pharma decades ago.

Just like the global MSM has been by national governments and Davos backed technocrats.

Jon Garvey
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Speaking as both a Christian and a writer on science, I think one major difference between them now is that most sincere Christians recognise the shortcomings of their hierarchies, and indeed of themselves, but too many scientists (at least until Covid) buy into the myth of science as a pure pursuit detached from human frailty. The tendency is to despise the philosophy and sociology of science that would keep them humble about their profession.

It’s hard to gauge how my own profession of medicine is dealing with the revelations about Dr Fauci, the Lancet, the NEJM and so on: I suspect it’s so disillusioning that denialism will be the main result for a while to come.

In other words, Science™ has the same kind of corrupt role as The mediaeval Catholic church in Europe before the Reformation.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

Great points. And yes denialism is the order of the day in thescienceland. I suspect it’s to do with compartmentalisation and over-specialism. Being focused on your one area of expertise sure can make you ignorant about the bigger picture. And it’s not as though the individual scientists involved in these diabolical schemes have done anything wrong or dishonest, rather they’re operating in a false paradigm; such as the one that states the world needs a vaccine for SARS Cov-2.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

“Just because a minority of scientists have behaved in the way they have (and a lot more have said nothing for fear of losing their jobs), that doesn’t make religion a good alternative.”

Nobody is saying that. But what is true is that if God does not exist then there is nothing wrong in the misbehaviour of a minority of scientists or in the majority of politicians.

And just because Justin Welby is a bit of a plonker that doesn’t make the company of misbehaving scientists a better alternative to Church.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

That depends on whether you think concepts of morality come from some superrnatural being and that atheists are all completely without principles (for which there is no evidence). The concept of human rights (and yes, that has gone too far in recent years, but is fine in principal) arose as the power of religion declined in the West: this is surely not a coincidence.

I wasn’t actually thinking of Welby (although I don’t disagree with you!) – from first-hand experience I have found the CofE to be unprincipled, self-serving, vindictictive, bullying, and with such vague policies that it’s usually impossible to hold anyone to account for anything. The whole organisation is utterly contemptible – it’s not just down to the people at the top. That’s not to say that there aren’t decent people within it, of course – there are – but the organisation itself is very much not decent.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

“That depends on whether you think concepts of morality come from some supernatural being and that atheists are all completely without principles (for which there is no evidence). “ I am talking about the ontological status of morality. Of course an atheist can be moral, that’s not in dispute, but if God doesn’t exist then that morality exists subjectively as a matter of taste, because there really is no good or evil, right or wrong. Here is the moral argument:  1. If God does not exist, objective moral values and duties do not exist. 2. Objective moral values and duties do exist. 3. Therefore, God exists. The question one has to ask is whether any action can be wrong no matter what the rest of the world thinks? If yes then the second premise must hold. For example if you were to ask yourself whether torturing a child for fun can ever be said to be a morally good act I’m sure you’d say no – I doubt you’d say, “But that’s just my opinion”. You’d regard it as objectively wrong. How we come to know what is morally wrong is a question for epistemology, but that’s not what I have… Read more »

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

It’s a totally false dichotomy. A category error. Doh!

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Please explain.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Any system of thought can be perverted.

annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Perhaps, but I know a lot of Christians who don’t go to church. Please don’t confuse an institution like the C of E or the Catholic church with faith. Ayrton Senna was deeply religious but rarely attended church because, as he said. God is everywhere- I don’t need to go to a particular place to experience His love.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

As Dimitri says in The Brothers Karamazov

” ‘But what will become of men then?’ I asked him, ‘without God and immortal life? All things are permitted then, they can do what they like?’ “

As W.L. Craig has said many times in defence of the Moral Ontological Argument, if God does not exist, then there really is no good or evil. There would be nothing wrong in torturing a child for the fun of it, it would be just a matter of taste.

So if God does not exist, then we can object to say, ‘vaccine’ mandates on the ground that they don’t work, but we can’t have any moral objection to them or even any moral objection to Johnson and the rest repeatedly lying, partying and feathering their nests at our expense.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

I completely appreciate that argument, but to me, my morality feels as though it’s something I’ve cultivated or life has given me. This may or may not be true. I’m grappling with the meaning of everything, as you can probably tell!

Paul_Somerset
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

If life has given you your morality, then it’s come to some extent from the morality of organized religion. If nothing else, it’s the source of respect for other human beings simply because they ARE human beings and for that reason alone have worth. Without the traditions of organized religion, the instinct is to divide human beings into merely useful allies or worthless enemies.

If you find that impossible to accept, just look at the things that have happened to human beings where organized religion has been explicitly rejected.

My father was not an eloquent man. He was Ukrainian, born in 1921, and barely spoke English. But one thing he was always clear on, from his experience of somehow surviving the Russian front all the way from Sept. 1939 to May 1945, was: “if men no havin’ religion, dey jus’ bloody animals.”

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul_Somerset

As I said earlier I’m sympathetic to this point of view, more than ever before in fact. But morality, if we’re gonna get a bit Darwinian, is also an emergent property of socialisation. It appears to be something that humans do naturally at times when they’re not struggling to survive. I might be wrong and the moral code could have been invented by my ancestors, but I’m loathe to accept that, I think we all know instinctively what’s right. Like I said, I’m currently grappling with this, until the year 2020, I’d never witnessed such depths of human depravity before!

Paul_Somerset
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

The problem with moral codes which emerge solely as a result of socialization – rules we formulate because they make life better among our community – is that they tend to be just that. Customs which are imposed on individuals to protect and promote that community alone. The bigger picture – that strangers, rival individuals and rival communities have their own worth and should be respected, their codes of conduct tolerated, simply because they are human beings too – to me that is something which requires a more spiritual point of view. Because it’s certainly not necessarily an advantageous viewpoint to hold from a utilitarian, social viewpoint. As far as I can see from the form book, the idea of being tolerant and decent to strangers almost had to be beaten into people before they came to think that this was the default, instinctive way for humans to behave, and that you didn’t need religious morality to impose it. The reason I say that is that right the way from the earliest texts we have – Homer, the Old Testament, and so on – parables and sermons keep having to tell people that this is the way they should behave.… Read more »

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Dimwit Illogic for god botherers.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Thank you for your deep and beautifully expressed thoughts on the subject. I’ll need to reconsider everything I’ve ever studied and thought over so many years.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

PS If God doesn’t exist who am I bothering?

Virginia McGough
Virginia McGough
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

What a handsome apology. Respect.

Jon Garvey
4 years ago

Listening to Delingpole on a podcast today, he’s not the only person who has come to take religion more seriously over the last two years because they have seen evil face to face for the first time. It does seem particularly hard to fit into the materialist-humanist worldview easily.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

It does seem particularly hard to fit into the materialist-humanist worldview easily.

Not so to some of us it doesn’t! Corruption of science by powerful vested interests does not render science somehow invalid in principal.

If religion is allegedly so superior when it comes to morality, why have we not seen any religious leaders loudly protesting against the manifest lockdows and restrictions which they must know have caused massive harm to society and individuals? Why have they not been protesting about clotshot coercion (where they have said anything, it’s usually been in favour of clotshots)?

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

No one’s said anything about moral superiority, the question is whether morality can be grounded objectively.

That fact that Justin Welby shut the Churches for the first time since the reign of King John is reprehensible, but changes nothing as far as Christian doctrine goes. His silly utterances about the vaccines and climate change are simply that – silly.

We are ill-served these days by a Church hierarchy that prefers the Zeitgeist to the Holy Spirit.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

The Orthodox Jews have! They put all their masks into a pile in the street in New York and burned them, Baruch HaShem!

crisisgarden
4 years ago

Thanks I meant it. Upsetting Christians is definitely not what I want to be doing!

annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Sounds like pretty much every civil service type I have ever met. If you can think for yourself, you ain’t gonna make it in the public sector.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

Kill the BBC by refusing to watch and listen – walk away- voting with your feet actually works!

I have not watched a single item of BBC news for two years and feel better informed and happier for it.

bfbf334
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Dito

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Same here although much longer than room years.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

I visit the BBC website every morning to see what the enemy’s talking points for the day are. It makes me feel slightly sick but it’s quicker and easier than wading through the bullshit in the corporate press. I’ve done this since 9/11, which was The moment I realised as a 23 year old chap that we were living in a reality carefully constructed by criminals.

Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I got chatting to a stranger in a Lidl car park in September 2020 when he enquired about the cost of our motorhome.

Neither of us were nappied, and both questioned the covid narrative.

He suggested that I investigated the 911 narrative.

He was an architectural engineer.

crisisgarden
4 years ago

I love this anecdote. Architects and engineers for 9/11 Truth was my favourite website back in the day.

Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Ditto.

Only BBC output on my TV over the last couple of years has been 6 Nations matches.

Voting with your feet, and your wallet, is far more effective than a X on a ballot paper.

DodosArentDead
4 years ago

Frog in pots.

Everyone knows by now the analogy often tossed about these days describing a frog in a pot of water on a stove.

The heat is turned up so slowly that the frog has no idea that if he (or she) doesn’t jump out he will be boiled alive.

Seems that most sheep, the normies, are like the frog. The rest of us (for the sake of simplicity I will call the rest of us “shrews”—more on that later!) are doing most of the jumping — or at least trying to. READ MORE HERE:

https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/12/slow-boil/

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  DodosArentDead

“What does seem to be clear is that some of the sheep are waking up and are attempting to jump out of the pot themselves.”

Cognitive dissonance, though, means many of them get scared when they make it out of the pot, so they simply jump right back in again.

A bit like the phenomenon in the US where life-long Democrat voters flee a ruined city because their voted-for politicians have ruined it. They move to Republican run States, but continue voting Democrat.

You cannot fix stupid. 

DodosArentDead
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Yes. People generally don’t like change because change represents the unknown. It is the fear of the unknown that makes people compliant. It’s better for them to stay in the familiarity of whatever Hell they’re in than put their heads above the parapet and confront reality head on. Vive la revolution.

annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

We are all birds in search of a cage is a good quote I think.

steve_z
4 years ago

we are learning about the vaccines all the time. what we know now is clearly more than what we knew when they started the roll-out – as the article explains

I wonder what we will learn in future?

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

“If you want their monument you will look around you” and it will not be a great Cathedral either.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

One thing a lot of people need to learn is that being stupid might well kill them.
 
And something we all need to learn is that democracy will not work if the low IQ, convicted criminals and the unemployed have the vote.

  • IQ under 100: No vote.
  • Convicted of a crime: No vote.
  • Unemployed: No vote.

The first two groups are too unintelligent to cast a meaningful vote under any circumstances. The latter group is also mostly too unintelligent, but they also entice politicians to make idiot promises about social care, which leads to the wrong type of person being attracted to politics – Jeremy Corbyn being a perfect example.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

That’s not democracy, that’s something more akin to the WEF.

RedhotScot
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

1984.

Backlash
Backlash
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

It is exactly how democratic government should function. Want a say in how the country spends its taxes? Get contributing then

Paul_Somerset
4 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

VAT, council tax, petrol tax, insurance tax, green taxes, the list is endless. Everybody pays them. What’s so bloody special about income tax?

annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul_Somerset

Er, because it’s used to pay benefits. Without productive people paying income tax and NI, nothing else gets paid. It’s all very well arguing that unemployed people pay VAT, but in reality they aren’t ‘paying’ anything, since their income has come from someone else’s income being taxed – often very highly. As for Council Tax, I don’t know of anyone on benefits who pays anything like the full amount- especially if they’re in a council property.

RedhotScot
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

I daresay Boris has an IQ over 100 but it doesn’t stop him making stupid decisions.

I was caught by a speed camera doing over the legal limit, does that preclude me from voting?

Is that long term unemployed like, say, a housewife/husband, with no convictions and an IQ of 180, or just those who happened to lose their job a week before a general election?

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Don’t go too hard on me, because under my criteria I also don’t get to vote. 🙂

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

I tried to downvote myself, but the site will not allow that. So, please downvote me on my behalf.

Backlash
Backlash
4 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

But the biggest problem we have is “turkeys voting for Christmas”

Because we have stupidly allowed so many immigrants in and so many people to doss around on Welfare, we are lumped with a very large body of greedy buffoons who will vote for free anything

That is where we are hamstrung by our own lack of foresight. Time to reform, votes only to those earning over £50,000pa and they must pass a basic test on economics first.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

Hear hear.

annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

I’m sure that this is exactly what New Labour were up to- effectively creating a ‘client state’ that will always vote for them.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

I see you are in favour of depriving yourself of the vote!

annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Unfortunately, this will not work, since a lot of BBC/Guardian types have high IQs but have never set foot in the real world so they exist in a world of theories- such as Communism is a good idea. Such people are classed as intelligent, yet wouldn’t last five minutes working somewhere like Aldi where you have to be quick witted. I used to work in a pub and we had a number of students who were no doubt quite intelligent but some of them couldn’t figure out things like rotating bottles in a fridge to keep the cold ones nearest to hand and most would just freeze if we got a sudden rush from, say, a concert ending.

ElSabio
4 years ago

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David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

Yes, the “cunning plan” is to stop the words getting into ‘books’ in the first place!

Next it will be stopping the thoughts getting into people’s heads – Schwab and Gates are working on that one!

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

By changing the words as you are typing!

Menckenitis
4 years ago

“BBC Medical Editor Fergus Walsh took it upon himself in the BBC article to attempt a rebuttal of Djokovic’s vaccine hesitancy, asking “What more does he want to know?”

Djokovic is NOT ‘vaccine hesitant’. Like any sane person capable of critical thinking, using the official, publicly available data, he has weighed up the risks of Covid and the risks and benefits of Covid ‘vaccines’ and has decided that he has more to lose, healthwise, by accepting the ‘vaccine’ than he has to lose by catching Covid.

Djkovic is clearly someone who knows how to look after his health. It appears he does not need a coercive medical-industrial system to help him. The Covidians could learn a lot by following his example, but they won’t.

Fergus Walsh, like his colleagues at the BBC, is employed not to practise journalism but to push the official narrative, whatever that happens to be at any point in time.

Vaxtastic
4 years ago
Reply to  Menckenitis

The inclusion of “vaccine hesitancy” within an article ostensibly about a famous sportsman’s deportation is not aimed at those looking for hard facts or insight. It is a subtle reinforcement of the narrative aimed at the already-injected to keep them calm, reassured and confident of the choice. “I am smarter than a multi-millionaire famous sports personality” is the intended effect. When you do something along the lines of inject yourself with a new biological agent because some guy on TV told you to do it, there are bound to be some doubts. That doubting is useful. More accurately, it is exploitable. Part of the hysteria around the unvaxxed is their unexploitableness. After more than a year of relentless propaganda the very idea some people are not controllable is maddening to social engineers. All their models are predicated on a Fantasyland belief in their ability to mold and shape society to a higher plane of functioning. The bane of this worldview is people doing their own thing. People who smoke socially, drink booze, eat chips and don’t exercise in winter don’t fit the neat all-encompassing models they love. I always take these things as a sign of how crazy they are.… Read more »

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Whilst I agree with your post in spirit, it’s not quite how I see things. I think division is actually the aim of the game. Look at the way society has been deliberately fractured along gender, race, and fake political lines by the media over the past 5-10 years. Covid has sent this into overdrive, now we have two human populations, both of which believe themselves to be biologically, morally and intellectually superior to the other; hate each other with a passion and essentially believe the other side is out to get them killed. As a ruling elite in a paradigm of extreme and increasingly obvious wealth inequality this is surely preferable to a class war. And if your corporate and financial malfeasance is in danger of becoming exposed (which is really what the Great Reset is about, as far as I can tell) then a squabbling, confused rabble of peasants arguing about superficial and artificially constructed differences is preferable to the alternative, torches and pitchforks. Maybe?

Vaxtastic
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

A very good point. Not one I’d considered.

It would certainly fit the MO of both the establishment, and the British establishment especially. Divide first, then conquer. Keep the peasants at each other’s throats.

If what you are saying is true then the best way to foil their plans is to not play along. To work harder to understand the other fellow’s point of view. The relentless propaganda that drives people to act out of fear.

Something to consider that fits your comments is the cultivation of a low trust society. Low trust tends to correlate with poor development in societies. Very low trust societies struggle to run banking systems, local governments, infrastructure projects etc. The third world is to some extent plagued by this. We focus on the petty corruption but rarely examine it’s causes, which is every man for himself.

British culture and northern European cultures generally are striking in that we traditionally enjoyed high trust. In recent decades this has been eroded. Perhaps that is one of the aims here too, to lower trust in government and authority. To usher in something sitting above national governments.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Perhaps that is one of the aims here too, to lower trust in government and authority. To usher in something sitting above national governments.’

Yes indeed. One of my pet theories (not based on anything other than hunch and active imagination) is that at some point, the media machine will ‘flip the script’ on the vaccines, and allow it to be known that they are actually useless and harmful. This would trigger chaos. Lawsuits like the world has never seen, governments falling, “Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!” (to quote Bill Murray in Ghostbusters) If your aim was global governance, what a sweet way to go about it this would be.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

In the fantasy (perhaps) interpretation of events described above, the WEF Young Global Leaders like Ardern, Macron and Trudeau have therefore been bred like lambs for the slaughter. Imagine that.

Vaxtastic
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I have long viewed the politicians as visible actors going through the pantomime of democracy and elections. It is no exaggeration a substantial number seem to be compromised individuals; secretly gay, odd sexual tastes and who knows what else. For our current PM it seems it is the oldest reason, money. He is understood to be financially compromised. Easy to manipulate.

All of them are absolutely expendable and a long list of would-be prime ministers and presidents stand behind them, willing to do whatever it takes to be selected. So an endless supply. As covid has taught us, none of them are in charge of anything except the execution of someone else’s plan
.

The prevalence of mass immigration from the third world into every first world country is a key example. It is difficult to believe anyone in power believes we benefit from hordes of third worlders. Yet its promotion is universal in every western nation. We could add in the rainbow gay trans malarky too, wokeism and all the rest.

How to bring it to an end though?

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Yes, yes and yes. When I was younger I was almost a typical lefty i.e generally in favour of immigration, big government etc although I knew that those at the top were utterly corrupt. Now I think I can see a strategy of division and (pure evil aside) I think this is purely strategic and necessary for the ruling class to retain power. How to bring it to an end? Well I’m making a film about it where in trying to reconcile the (artificial) differences that have arisen, simply by getting people to share their experiences, and to punch up rather than across. Most people want the same thing really, and their differences have been constructed for them whilst genuine political differences and class identities have been stripped away. This will take huge collective effort to overturn!

annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I don’t agree that most people want the same thing – some are content with getting by whilst others want more or different things, and some want things but aren’t prepared to put the time or effort in- hence the success of the lottery. We should all be allowed to pursue our chosen path, but equally accept that other people don’t have to agree or pay through the nose for our choices.

Backlash
Backlash
4 years ago
Reply to  Menckenitis

It would appear Djokovic got his decision 100% right, given that he caught Covid and did not keel over and die

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

No it proves he’s an idiot and doesn’t understand Covid (said every Guardian reader I know)

annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

That was very inconvenient, wasn’t it? He could have done the decent thing and died- and on his death bed he could have given an interview saying how wrong he’d been to question ‘The Science’ and our benevolent leaders.

Jo Starlin
4 years ago

My admiration for the man only increases. Compare the genuine, principled stand by the world’s greatest in his field with that of the whining, self-pitying mediocrity Colin Kaepernick, who was rewarded for his stance with a multi-million dollar contract from Nike with the clownworld tagline of: “Believe in something. Even if it costs you everything.”

Fraser Nelsons Underpants
Fraser Nelsons Underpants
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo Starlin

Very good point. The last two years have demonstrated that men and women of real principle and moral courage are exceedingly rare. It’s easy to virtue signal but in almost every case the virtue signaler is a phony seeking social approval and little else.

annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo Starlin

Even if you’re an average Quarterback with delusions of grandeur and Superbowl rings, you can still make millions by throwing your toys out of the pram.

mishmash
4 years ago

“What more does he want to know?”

Oh I don’t know Mr Walsh, maybe as an athlete he’s particularly concerned about the 108 FIFA registered football players and 400 other athletes who have died from heart failure during the last six months.

Dave Bollocks
4 years ago

BBC Medical Editor Fergus Walsh took it upon himself in the BBC article to attempt a rebuttal of Djokovic’s vaccine hesitancy, asking “What more does he want to know?”

Yep, that’s BBC ‘impartiality’ right there!

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

“Djokovic: I’d Rather Never Play a Grand Slam Again Than Have a Covid Vaccine.”   That headline is wrong. It’s not a vaccine that they are forcing people to take. The correct official term for the toxins they are injecting into people are “gene therapies”. Even the Federal Drugs Administration in the United States have these products listed as gene therapies.   The reason the pharmaceutical companies falsely push these products as vaccines is because they are totally exempt from legal responsibility if any of their vaccines cause illness or injury to people.   In 1986 the idiot ex-actor, President Ronald Reagan, signed into law the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA). The purpose of this act was to eliminate any financial liability that manufacturers would incur if their vaccines caused illness, injury or death to people.   To reinforce this protection for Big Pharma, the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREP Act) was signed into law in 2005 by another idiot US president, George W. Bush. This act gives the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services (HHS) authority to provide legal protection to companies that rush out untrialled medications as long as there is deemed to be… Read more »

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Thanks for this.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

You are very welcome.

mariawarmth
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Yes. I have said before please DS, we must be clear in our wording; those mistakes, are own goals, that those who peddle snake oil on the other side don’t make.
And as the serious threat to everything we hold dear in its totality becomes clear even to our commendable Mr Young; we must hold them to account !! That includes Boris, if he was a lovable rogue ? He is NOT now! Look what these global tyrannical leaders have done and not just to poor old Novak ! A reckoning has to happen . We must stop mincing our words. It stops when we say Go Truckers ! Peaceful but clear and sharp

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  mariawarmth

Well put.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  mariawarmth

👏🚛🚛🚛🚛🇨🇦

brachiopod
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Ukraine, and a ‘war’ with Russia, is/was the corrupt narcostate’s last best hope for getting out from under a mountain of debt, death, and approaching mobs with flaming torches and pitchforks.
At least that is my fervent hope – and it couldn’t come soon enough.

annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Whatever you think of Donald Trump he is no idiot and he was and potentially is the ONLY leader in the Western world who stands up to the green and covid hysteria, as well as disgraceful outfits like Planned Parenthood. Just look at what’s happening to the energy sector in the US under the current, woeful administration.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

Hero. The politicians are being directed, politicians who can be in power one day and doing the school run the next, Cameron, ruining the country one day with their plans and then trailing around on a narrowboat, Prescott, they are nothing special

GlassHalfFull
4 years ago

The name of Fergus Walsh will no doubt be added to the list of “collaborators” and “facilitators” in this medical/health catastrophe and crimes against humanity.

Sforzesca
Sforzesca
4 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

A lamp post awaits, (and for all of similar ilk) in this world and the next.
Metaphorically speaking of course.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

Don’t worry he’s on the list.

jingleballix
4 years ago

With 60% of the world’s population vaccinated and 10 billion doses administered, there is a “wealth of information” which shows the vaccines’ “safety profile is excellent”, Walsh claims.

Walsh has obviously not looked at the jab picture in Vietnam

OCT-2020……..only 35 C-19 deaths in Vietnam

JUL-2021……..still only 35 C-19 deaths in Vietnam

TODAY………39,122 C-19 deaths in Vietnam

Have a guess what happened in Vietnam after July 2021.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

Even more effective than Agent Orange then?

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

Good grief.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

A man of principle .

So world tennis is dead and the ‘Championship’ meaningless .

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

If even a quarter of the things we’ve all read about these devices are true, he’ll need to play against a wall at future grand slams. Or one of us.

godowneasy
4 years ago

Fergus Walsh is not medically qualified. However, his wife Veronique is. A former GP, she has worked in high profile positions in various pharmaceutical companies for 25 years. As of November 2021, Veronique joined US company Gilead Sciences as General Manager for the UK and Ireland, managing a portfolio of products spanning HIV, Hepatitis, Oncology and COVID-19. As you probably know, Gilead also has Remdesivir as part of its portfolio. Gilead has an interesting (grim) history of legal challenges.

My question is – Given that Fergus Walsh is in a position to put out unsubstantiated claims about vaccine safety and efficacy on the BBC is there a conflict of interest given that his wife is in a position of influence for Gilead in the UK and Irish pharmaceutical markets?

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  godowneasy

Perhaps I was being too generous to BBC journalists in my response to Fraser Nelson’s Underpants above. We can add corrupt, to stupid and ignorant then.

loopDloop
loopDloop
4 years ago
Reply to  godowneasy

Great post *applause*. Let me have a go at restating it: the BBC’s medical correspondent and fervent advocate for vaccines is married to the General Manager of Gilead in UK. Excuse me, I need to puke.

silverbirch
silverbirch
4 years ago
Reply to  godowneasy

Gilead is Gates. Therefore….

brachiopod
4 years ago
Reply to  silverbirch

And, Remdesivir is Fauci. With parents like that it is hardly surprising that it cripples and kills, and is very expensive.

brachiopod
4 years ago
Reply to  godowneasy

Note: in hospitals in the US, where Remdesivir is part of standard treatment for Covid, the nurses have nicknamed it “RUN! Death is near”.

Ruth Learner
Ruth Learner
4 years ago

Way to go Djokovic ! Have always loved you because you are a goddamn brilliant player, and a very funny and wise man. The minions will vanish but you will always stand tall.

NickR
4 years ago

Djokovic is presented as ‘eccentric’ opting not to get jabbed, but 60% of the UK’s 30-35 year olds have decided not to get a booster!
See page 19 of the UK HSA week 6 vaccine surveillance report COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report – week 6 (publishing.service.gov.uk)

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steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  NickR

1/4 of my cohort have either ‘left the program’ or never started it.

I wonder what the take up of the nth will look like

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

When politicians and the press insult or demean those who don’t want these jabs, they are attacking an ever growing number of people.

That has never struck me as a sustainable approach.

Demonising an ever growing number of people seems like a losing strategy.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

It does doesn’t it. It’s kind of a hole in the ‘this is all about technocracy’ argument; is as though they’re deliberately antagonising the very people they wish to induct. All very odd.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

Good man.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

What’s with all the coercion, we know those pushing the jabs have no altruistic interest in other people, they should be forced to state their reasons why and have it checked out.

cloughy
cloughy
4 years ago

At least I no longer pay for the BBC. Feel less annoyed about the article as a result.

stewart
4 years ago

The Muhammad Ali of our time.

And we all know how Ali has gone down in history.

He was always more intelligent than Nadal and it showed even before this.

realarthurdent
4 years ago

Why does Ryanair only fly Boeing 737-800s?
They don’t fly the Boeing 737MAX. Or the Airbus A320.

I guess they must be anti-aeroplane.

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stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Why the heck is Ryanair getting involved?

One more reason to detest them.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

📝 Ryanair

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

A key moment, comparable to Dr James (NHS vaccine mandates).

Both men have told the tyrants where to stick their numb skulls.

Maybe more need to ‘come out’ as unjabbed to normalise… normality.

Crlmc
Crlmc
4 years ago

Respect .. bless you Novak