Respond to the Government Consultation on the NHS and Social Care Vaccine Mandates

The Government has opened a consultation on the NHS and social care vaccine mandates, entitled: “Revoking vaccination as a condition of deployment across all health and social care.” You can respond here.

It closes on Wednesday (February 16th), so if you intend to respond, don’t delay. Ex-footballer and lockdown and vaccine sceptic Matt Le Tissier has tweeted about it, questioning the reason for the short timeframe. If the Government intends (as it appears to) to revoke the mandates, however, then a shorter consultation may mean it can get on with it, ending the uncertainty and relieving the staff shortages in social care.

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Julian
4 years ago

It’s very short, won’t take long

ElSabio
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

No public confessions, please….

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

The questions are deliberately worded to trip people up. Please find the guide I copy-pasted below.

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Yes, I noticed that. You have to read the questions very carefully!

olaffreya
olaffreya
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

You do but just as well don’t bother reading and just answer – this has all now reached a level of pure insanity and inequity that will bring its downfall. It’s so explicit now that you can taste how things are shifting, albeit slowly.

Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Some of the questions are basically double-negatives. Obviously a ploy to get the results they want. Oh, a bit like a YouGov poll !

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

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Username1
4 years ago

Done.
What a crappy consultation though.

helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

I think the crappiness is intentional. They are mocking us.

NeilParkin
4 years ago

A disappointingly awful survey form, with the saving grace that you can type in something at the end…

I am probably now on a register somewhere as ‘Enemy of the State’

Username1
4 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

My responses were under the name of Jonas Salk so should be OK.

Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

See you in the gulag, then.
There are too many of us to be in there all at once, so I suppose we’ll have to go in shifts, get the treatment, then be allowed out for a while and monitored…….

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Ha! Moment passed way back for me.

Virginia McGough
Virginia McGough
4 years ago

Have filled in the form, and agree that it is of very poor quality.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

Why consult after threatening and coercing with it for months, and after supposedly cancelling it? Ass backwards.

If most people agree with the mandates, the ‘plebiscite’ proves gov was and is and will be correct?

What next, vote to rubber stamp wokery or the validity of multiple gender identities?

Needless to say if most participants are critical of mandates, their views are unrepresentative or will be ignored.

Evil things cannot be rubber stamped by a phoney democratic process. They remain wrong even if ALL people agree with them.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Ass backwards.

By backward asses.

John001
John001
4 years ago

Unbelievably lousy structure for the consultation, plus no e-mail address to allow you to send them a precise account of your views.

A friend gave up, as did I.

URGENT: The abolition, sorry ‘amendment’ of the Human Rights Act is probably a more vital consultation to respond to. It tries to partly replace individual rights by individual responsibilities and this pernicious concept of the ‘greater good’. Deadline 8th. March.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

Yes, the HRA is a big worry, have done that one too, structure a bit better

Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

There is a petition (for all the good it will do):
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/607712

jeepybee
4 years ago

I believe this is intentionally worded in the most convoluted way possible. “Not, negatively, with not being.” Had to re-read both questions to make sure they weren’t double-juking me into the wrong opinion.

The old bat
4 years ago

I have just filled that survey in and berated them for their deliberately confusing questions. Shocking. Whatever happened to the campaign for clear English?
Anyway, I gave them a piece of my mind.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

‘Clear English’ might have garnered them more of the type of response they don’t want?

Dave
Dave
4 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

Good job they didn’t give you a piece of their mind.
They couldn’t spare it

Judy Watson
Judy Watson
4 years ago
Reply to  Dave

You are being optimistic if you think they have a mind.

Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

Same here.

John Dee
4 years ago

I watched Mrs Dee fill in her submission.
Nowhere does it bother to ask what one thought of vaccination as a way out of the covid mess.
Having just finished reading the first part of RFKennedy’s exposé of Fauci and his team of charlatans, I might ask why the push on vaccines when they went to such lengths to suppress any early medical interventions that might have saved many lives.
In particular, doctors sending home patients who presented with covid, so that they could either get better or end in hospital seemed to be the establishment-approved response.
Groups of doctors worldwide who teamed up to find and offer early intervention protocols were either silenced, threatened or written off as quacks (by the real quacks).
And all the time, wealth was transferred from the taxpayer to Big Pharma.

realarthurdent
4 years ago

This survey won’t win any prizes from the Plain English campaign. One question in particular contains a double negative. Probably deliberate. Read everything carefully before you answer.

TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Double negatives come naturally for authors that have been trained in doublethink. What a nightmare it must be inside their contorted brains.

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Yes, I thought it needed a good re-read, so as not to come a cropper.

ElSabio
4 years ago

That woman in red really needs to lose weight… it’s the truth….

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J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

Rarely do people talk about the communists book-burning (amongst endless other atrocities). Take China for example

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

We are not allowed to discuss exacly what type of books were burnt, who wrote them, and why.

ElSabio
4 years ago

The consultation is garbage.

Dave
Dave
4 years ago

“How can the government increase uptake of the vaccine?”
What a load of crap.

ellie-em
4 years ago

Strangely enough, I received an email a couple of days ago, stating that as I’d signed the petition against mandatory vaccination, there was now a public consultation and a link was enclosed to complete the form. I loath everything about the Tory government but I do think it was a positive step to raise more awareness of the consultation.

I chose not to use the enclosed link but used a link I’d saved previously. Paranoid moi? Not at all.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  ellie-em

Whenever I fill in Government questionnaires I feel very uneasy and slightly dirty. And as though I’m voluntarily identifying myself to the authorities ahead of some future nightmarish purge I’ve imagined.

Encierro
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Use this then. https://www.minuteinbox.com/ You can use it longer than a min if you need it. But it is a throwaway email box.

dazren
dazren
4 years ago

I completed the last one. I’ll complete this one too not that it will make any difference; they will do what they want.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  dazren

Ah but….a “consultation” does tick a box.

helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  dazren

They absolutely will do what they want. The so-called consultation is worthless.

This is taken from the Government response to the original consultation:

DHSC undertook thorough analysis of the more than 34,900 consultation responses and considered the feedback received. Overall, the consultation showed that, while a majority of respondents (65%) did not support the proposal, the responses from the health and social care sector were mixed, with some groups (for example managers of healthcare or social care services) mostly supporting the proposed legislative change while others (for example service users and relatives of service users) were mostly opposed.

So, apparently it doesn’t matter what us plebs think or want. It’s not us they want to consult with.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1032203/making-vaccination-a-condition-of-deployment-in-the-health-and-wider-social-care-sector-government-response.pdf

Mr Taxpayer
Mr Taxpayer
4 years ago
Reply to  dazren

They consulted the nation about our membership of the EU in 2016 and look how hard they tried to ignore the result.

J4mes
4 years ago

Suggested & template answers for some of the questions, to save time, esp the 2 “open questions” at the end. Obviously, check you agree before using. Q) Which of the following best describes your preference for this requirement? A) “I feel strongly that the requirement should be revoked” Q) Thinking about yourself, your colleagues, your staff or care providers who are hesitant to get vaccinated, do you believe there are other steps (other than those set out in the original consultation) the government and the health and social care sector could take to increase vaccine uptake? A) No Q) Are there particular groups of people, such as those with protected characteristics, who would be particularly negatively affected by a COVID-19 vaccination not being a condition of deployment in healthcare and social care? A) No Q) Are there particular groups of people, such as those with protected characteristics, who would particularly benefit from a COVID-19 vaccination not being a condition of deployment in healthcare and social care? A) Yes Q) Which particular groups might be positively impacted and why? A) Most people, and most patients, health workers, carers, would be positively impacted. There’s increasing evidence indicating vaccines are ineffective, and that… Read more »

J4mes
4 years ago

[A] shorter consultation may mean it can get on with it, ending the uncertainty and relieving the staff shortages in social care.

Not at all:

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Menckenitis
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

The coercion continues – behind the scenes – despite covid ‘vaccines’ increasing the risk of infection in the vaccinees by 2 to 3 times.

Given the risk of serious adverse effects from the ‘vaccines’, this coercion goes against the Nuremberg code.

Savage Jabbit is guilty of crimes against humanity.

NeilofWatford
4 years ago

As usual, the words in this ‘consultation’ are deliberately vague and herd you into giving the ‘correct’ answer. I’ve pasted below some guidance to help anyone interested … THIS LINK HAS TEMPLATE ANSWERS TO SAVE TIME, ESP FOR 2 “OPEN QUESTIONS” AT END : https://pastelink.net/supvh8r9 Please complete : brief official survey (4 or 5 minutes) https://consultations.dhsc.gov.uk/61fd3b71f0d963706f2a7193 Suggested & template answers for some of the questions, to save time, esp the 2 “open questions” at the end. Obviously, check you agree before using. ——————————————- Q) Which of the following best describes your preference for this requirement? A) “I feel strongly that the requirement should be revoked” ———————————————- Q) Thinking about yourself, your colleagues, your staff or care providers who are hesitant to get vaccinated, do you believe there are other steps (other than those set out in the original consultation) the government and the health and social care sector could take to increase vaccine uptake? A) No ————————————————– Q) Are there particular groups of people, such as those with protected characteristics, who would be particularly negatively affected by a COVID-19 vaccination not being a condition of deployment in healthcare and social care? A) No ——————————————- Q) Are there particular groups of people,… Read more »

Encierro
4 years ago

Is this the government taking advice on mandatory vaccinations as per the Dr. James and Jarvid conversation which took place at the beginning of January this year?
I argge with others.Questions are in English but written to trick you.

cornubian
4 years ago

I filled it in but it is quite obvious that, with the questionaire being focussed solely on the needs and sensitivities of people with supposed ‘protected characteristics’, the rest of societly do not matter to this govt.

Its a classic example of cultural Marxism in action. Those practicing cultural Marxism in order to destroy Western civilisation split society into two main groups – the oppressors and their victims. The ‘oppressors’ are straight White males and the ‘oppressed’ are people defined by our Marxist govt as having ‘protected characteristics’ ie women, blacks, gays etc.

The end game is to grow the numbers of ‘oppressed’ and empower them enough to topple/replace the ‘oppressors’. In other words, in the long term, the plan is to destroy a strong and powerful society that succeeded simply because it was dominated by trail-blazing straight White men.

This is why, in the consultation described above, the govt is only interested in attending to the sensitivities and meeting the needs of people who are NOT straight White men.

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago

On Friday I received an email directing me to the ‘consultation’ because I had signed the petition against vax requirement.

At the end of the form are questions along the lines of: Any instances where this mandate would be good/bad for certain groups of people needing care. I basically said that not mandating would benefit all, because if mandated, then staff numbers and staff motivation/morale would be affected. Also, I mentioned naturally acquired immunity of staff vs vax ‘immunity’.

They don’t seem too fussed ‘consulting the public’ beforehand for all their impositions. Anyway, this is just more bullshit – just going through the motions type stuff.

olaffreya
olaffreya
4 years ago

Have fun – leading questions as usual with this garbage. Did it earlier in the week and commented to my heart’s content.

Loved the double negatives on a couple of questions – they could not make their mind up what they want you to answer obviously!

Algie
Algie
4 years ago

Disgustingly worded survey as ever. The original ‘consultation’ document recorded 65% of respondents against mandation. That was ignored, seemingly because an opinion poll they commissioned claimed the public were in favour. I’m not holding my breath.

Annie
4 years ago

Please, please, PLEASE can we have a rest from these disgusting pictures of muzzled harpies injecting muzzled zombies?

olaffreya
olaffreya
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

No – wonderful being muzzled. Love it. Greatest thing on planet Earth. Who could not be orgasmic at being muzzled? Mask and be proud! Show your true self – inane and fundamentally flawed. Oops, something went wrong there.

caravaneer
caravaneer
4 years ago

Have spent ages trying to work out what this means…. ‘are there particular groups of people, such as those with protected characteristics, who would be particularly negatively affected by a Covid 19 vaccination not being a condition of deployment in health care and social care?’ As I read it it is asking…..who would be worse off by there not being a vaccine mandate? My answer would be nobody but I think I may have fallen into a trap I can’t see.

CrouplessCoup
CrouplessCoup
4 years ago

I have yet to do it but from comments and docs it appears

  1. it’s the standard Delphi Technique false paradigm of question wording / presentation forcing the “correct” answers – so beware;
  2. any indirect imposition on health workers of an obligation to receive the pseudo-vaxx via “professional standards” requirements should also be rejected. If HMG facilitates or connives at that now or hereafter then it can only be taken as evidence of malice given the lack of efficacy and dangerousness of the pseudo-vaxx – plus the costs both direct and indirect in money and otherwise to the taxpayer / society at large.
Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago

And you really think it’ll make a difference what any of us, the plebs, say?

Lucan Grey
4 years ago

What that consultation tells us is that the NHS is obsessed with putting people in categories and boxes, rather than treating people as individuals.

95% of it is categorisation. Othering people into ‘in-group’ and ‘out-group’. We would do well to stripping labelling from the NHS. That alone would save millions and allow front-line staff to get the job done.

JeremyP99
4 years ago

Done already. Made it clear that discriminating against the unjabbed when the jabbed can also get and pass on Covid is nothing more than pure discrimination. Hence unacceptable in a democratic country. Even one on its last legs