Court Freezes $8 Million for Freedom Convoy Raised on GiveSendGo at Request of Government
The Government of the province of Ontario in Canada on Thursday successfully sought a court order to freeze over $8 million U.S. dollars in funds made to the Freedom Convoy on GiveSendGo. The Epoch Times has the story.
The Ontario Superior Court of Justice ordered that all donations made through the “Freedom Convoy 2022” and “Adopt a trucker” campaigns on the Christian fundraising platform be frozen until further notice, according to a statement from Premier Doug Ford’s office.
The statement said Ontario Attorney General Doug Downey brought the application for the restraint order, in which 490.8 of the Criminal Code was cited as grounds to freeze the funds. The section reads, in part: “The Attorney General may make an application … for a restraint order … in respect of any offence-related property.”
Ivana Yelich, spokesperson for the Premier, said the order “binds any and all parties with possession or control over these donations”.
In a statement on Twitter, GiveSendGo wrote in an apparent response to the court order, “Know this! Canada has absolutely ZERO jurisdiction over how we manage our funds here at GiveSendGo.”
It adds, “All funds for EVERY campaign on GiveSendGo flow directly to the recipients of those campaigns, not least of which is The Freedom Convoy campaign.”
The GiveSendGo fundraising page was set up after GoFundMe said last week it would not give the donated money to the truckers.
The legal standing of the order in respect of GiveSendGo is not yet clear.
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It was for moments like these that Bitcoin was invented. If you own some Bitcoin, you can donate to the truckers on Tallycoin and there is NOTHING the Canadian government can do about it. Last I checked the fund was close to $1 million raised so far.
It’s for moments like this that revolution was invented.
and that’s why only the more-equal bureaucrats are allowed functional self defence equipment.
The revolution will not be televised.
The revolution will not be on the blockchain.
The revolution will not be digital.
The revolution will not be on the internet.
The revolution will not be on social media.
The revolution will not be on phones.
The revolution will be analogue.
The revolution will be in real life.
The revolution will be qualitative.
The revolution will be live.
(Thanks to Gil Scott-Heron for inspiration.)
There will be no revolution. People are still too scared to knock on Susan Michie’s front door.
How about another on-line petition?
This us the sort of comment that the downvote button was invented for.
Are you an agent of Schwab?
I’ve had three people tell me today of people they know who know people who ‘got Covid’ and either “died of it” or have been “seriously ill with Covid”.
There seems to be a new round of fear going round Finland.
I daren’t laugh any more because these people are taking it very seriously.
Whenever I ask how these people were tested for ‘Covid’, or how anyone knew it was Covid and the doctor didn’t just stamp ‘Covid’ on the death certificate to enrich themselves, I get the Evil Eye.
No-one knows. But they believe in it. And you may not question!
I have to catch a train tomorrow, 4 hour journey to Helsinki – my partner gave me two N95(?) masks and said they would give better protection on the train. I said no thanks. She said why not? And I said I have no intention of going round looking like a dog.
Dare to laugh! Dare to hope!
Every silver lining has a cloud, eh??
Sadly, there is truth in what you say. When has there been a revolution in a democracy in our lifetimes? We probably need one, but 95 percent of the population is probably too timid to stand up for their God-given rights.
I lost a friend over it, a fellow metalhead. Most people into metal are individualistic, so why he’d support this new normal I have no idea. Just asked him why he complies when he shared a photo with a mask by him vehicle OUTSIDE. Then he accused me of prolonging this ‘show’ by not complying, getting the vax etc. I just see him as spineless and pathetic now.
You don’t need tallycoin or any other middleman. That’s the point. It’s called the Blockchain. By the way, BTC was stolen by TPTB in 2017, when they segregated the chain of signatures from the Blockchain.
For the real bitcoin, and the real Blockchain, you need BSV.
Down-dinger care to elaborate?
Might be the same one who hit yesterday’s thread.
Yes, great job, Sherlock. The money will only be seized when the lucky Bitcoin recipient attempts to convert it into some real currency which can buy stuff like food and gasoline. Apart from that, Bitcoin provides an excellent way for the government to track every single transaction ever. Good job, Bitcoin.
You think governments are competent enough?
But you are correct, the Blockchain is not anonymous. It is private. Big difference.
Yes, governments, specifically the American one, are competent enough (seized >$2 billion worth of Bitcoin lately). That’s also why Bitcoin is allowed to exist in the first place, it’s a closely monitored tool used for funding some clandestine US government spending, but apart from that, and they’ve got it fully under control. Other cryptos like Monero not so much, but those are not very popular and will be outlawed soon enough.
Well there’s always Monero if you need fully privacy but for this instance, you don’t. The funds can be converted into fiat by a third party (in another jurisdiction if necessary) and then distributed to the truckers through conventional means. I suppose the Canadian government could decide to seize the bank accounts of every trucker in the protest and block private transactions between banks but I doubt even they would attempt that.
Monero and the like will be taken off the exchanges soon enough. Then all you will be able to buy with Monero will be drugs in Russia (maybe).
Don’t give Trudeau any ideas
One very important benefit that crypto funding provides is that it prevents the government from using its control of the banking system to deny funding to causes it doesn’t approve of.
The BTC For Truckers campaign was started by four well-know bitcoin personalities and so far has raised the equivalent of more than $1M USD. Besides that, it calls attention to the protest and to the underhanded tactics being used to try to shut it down.
As I wrote above, if the government controls the exchanges used to convert crypto into real money (which they very much do), they can also deny the funding. They can freeze your account with whatever exchange you do business with, and they can do so indefinitely. Then you can stuff your Bitcoins into your private offline wallet and enjoy the possession. Maybe buy some NFTs and enjoy those, too.
There are things government can do to make life more difficult, but they cannot directly control crypto transactions from private wallets, and there are lots of ways to spend crypto directly without going through exchanges. Even if you did can’t easily find someplace to spend it directly, you can always use it to buy a gift certificate to just about any major retail outlet. In any event, the government cannot simply use their control of the banking system to prevent you from sending funds.
Yes, get a cold storage (USB crypto wallet) to store your bitcoin, then you can easily make peer-to-peer payments. The recent taproot upgrade has given btc payments even more privacy.
I’ve seen a Tallycoin donation page set up, which for those wishing to support the Canadian truckers, gives a way to donate without the plantation owners to intefere. Lightning payment option is included too if you have your own node or a lightning wallet on your phone.
The Tallycoin BTC For Truckers fundraiser has collected the equivalent of over $1M USD already. It is also raising awareness of the protest among crypto enthusiasts.
Have the truckers themselves said how much useable money they have received in their bank account?
The money donated goes to a multisig wallet for the support of the truckers and is controlled by 5 persons including BJ Dichter, one of the main organizers of the Freedom Convoy. There is no urgent need for food at the moment, but there will be a great need soon for legal expenses among other things. Expenditures from the wallet require at least 3 of the 5 people in control of the wallet to sign off on it.
Perfect. Thank you for this. Good to know.
Criminalising truck driving; and the views inside truckers’ heads while they drive them.
Clownish world indeed: anything to avoid the truth. All it does is kick the final reckoning down the road, though.
Good on GiveSendGo for standing up to these tinpot bullies. It’s always risky to stand between a politician and other people’s money.
Trudeau needs to find a wall to stand in front of.
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The criminals at antifa and BLM managed to keep their funding while rioting across US cities for most of 2020. They were also allowed to hold mass rallies in front of kneeling police in London during “lockdown”. Politicised police & judiciary is when you get to stop calling them the UK or Canadian or US Government and start calling them “the regime”.
Thanks for the downvote Justin.
That’s because they were the good guys. And arson committed by good guys is good arson.
Mostly peaceful arson
GB News just interviewed the UK’s BLM organiser about Cressida Dick resignation, as if she and her terrorist organisation have a legitimate and fair opinion on such matters. Not once was a question raised about damage they cause or the cultural terrorism they inflict upon our nation.
Yes, BLM get mansions, truckers get nothing
They were and are protected by Soros surely?
Who needs Soros when you have 99% of the democratic party, 95% of journalists, almost all of social media, half of the state governors, most courts state and federal and in the UK institutions like the BBC on your side?
Who would have thought the world could contain so many morons?
“when you get to stop calling them the UK or Canadian or US Government and start calling them “the regime””
Been calling them that for decades. Seemed only fair when the media propaganda machine actively uses “regime” as code for “country whose government doesn’t toe the globalist line like we do and that we’ll bomb as soon as we get a pretext”, and when dissent from political correctness is actively censored and suppressed (and don’t fall for the nonsense that all that started in the “woke” era – it began with antiracist indoctrination and political correctness in the late C20th.
Tyranny.
There simply is no rule of law any more. None. Same for basic property rights.
Sort-of, there is. It’s just government by people with the mindset of tax evasion consultants: Here’s what we want. How can we misintepret the written law in order to accomplish it? Possibly helped out by bribes.
To the contrary, the truckers are breaking laws and the rule of law means they must be punished for that. That’s what “rule of law” means and always has meant (those who are able to define the law rule).
Pity there isn’t a law against rayc.
But then, there isn’t a law against cockroaches or other vermin, either.
I did not say what was being done was morally good (quite the opposite). I just educated you on how law works. The only working law is law of the jungle, and that is from where all other laws originate. Although people like to pretend otherwise. When push comes to shove, the pretending stops.
When Devils make the laws what do we do then?
Hitler made lots of laws and lots of Germans obeyed them …to their eventual great cost.
Funny how it’s “protest” when the leftists like it, and it’s “breaking the law” when they don’t.
Surely in UK under bill of rights 1689 we have the right to own property and defend it, and that includes unreasonable seizure.
This seems to be a law against money laundering. How can this possibly apply here? Apart from that: The GiveSendGo statement is meaningless. If they pay any of this money to the freedom convoy, anybody who takes any of it for anything in Canada can possibly be imprisoned for 5 years. This would seem to be another case of the democratically elected Chineses of Canada patting themselves on the back because they successfully bent an unclearly worded law to a purpose it was never intended to serve. These guys act basically like the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt used to do after its election victory: As soons as we’ve successfully conned the idiots to vote for us, we may do with them whatever we want. Laws and constitutions are just words printed on glorified loo roll. We can print more powerful stuff: Notes! Useless note for the future: If democracy is to work at all, people who regard large parts of the population they’re supposed to govern as basket of hereditary guilty deplorables must not be allowed to stand in elections as they’re clearly not planning to rule for the good of the people as such, just (at best) for the… Read more »
Guess what … ?
Khairat Al Shater and company run the MB. His clique began as Trotskyites, but “converted” to radical Islam in the Seventies and Eighties as a way to draw big street crowds. They saw Islamism (politicized “Islam” of the modern era) and those impressionable street mobs as a way to achieve the totalitarian state where they’d be in control.
“must not be allowed to stand in elections”
Is that – in and of itself – democratic?
Taken literally, it’s the same totalitarianism you’re correctly objecting to.
Prohibiting critical race theory amounts to censorship would have been a better objection. Sort-of, at least, as there’s a difference between speaking about one’s political theories and indoctrinating dependent people with them (eg, school children or university students). 🙂
I’m not aware of any definiton of totalitarianism which would fit the observation that a working democracy requires a non-partisan government and that people who openly admit that that’s not what they are going to implement should they be elected should thus be considered unfit for office.
In Iran’s totalitarian theocratic system, the Guardian Council must approve anyone and everyone who stands for election to the sham National Government.
Deal . With . That .
This cries out loud for an old USENET classic: So what?
You don’t have the cojones to address my question?
Why would that bother RW? It’s clearly the system he believes in for his pwn country (just with people he likes administering it).
I made a general statement about conditions for working democracies. This was labelled as totalitarian. When asking for the reason why it was labelled in this way, I was being told that there’s a body responsible for determining fitness (or not) for public office in Iran. Such a body exists in every other country, too, as there are always conditions one has to meet before being allowed to stand in election, eg, people must be of a certain age, must be citizens of a certain country, must demonstrate that they have a certain amount of public support etc., hence, that’s not in itself an answer, just more guilt-by-association diversions.
I didn’t write anything about my political opinions.
“I didn’t write anything about my political opinions.”
You wrote that you believe that people with particular kinds of opinions you dislike should not even be allowed to stand for election, and that expressing particular opinions you dislike ought to be punished. That’s basically the Iranian system, merely (as I wrote) retargeted to suit your own prejudices and preferences.
In reality, in a true democracy there should be no political restriction on who can stand. It’s up to the voters to determine how much support they get. And in a free nation,there should be no restrictions on political speech whatsoever, barring genuine and direct incitement to imminent violence.
You either trust people to reach reasonable conclusions in the end, or you are neither a democrat nor a believer in liberty.
If you absolutely insist on nailing me to a political opinion, I’m for restoring the constitution (and boundaries) Germany had in 1872 as a first step. However, that’s completely besides the point here. And I certainly didn’t make the general statement you’re ascribing to me.
Your position is also somewhat contradictory: If free speech is to be protected, people who want to eliminate free speech must not be allowed into power, regardless of how many Stimmviecher (voting oxen, wordplay on the German Rindvieh or -viech, a colloquial and somewhat dated term for cattle) they might be able to ensnare. Otherwise, free speech can’t be protected.
“And I certainly didn’t make the general statement you’re ascribing to me.“
I didn’t say you made that general statement. You expressed your support for a particular case of that general position (anti-free speech and antidemocratic)
“Your position is also somewhat contradictory: If free speech is to be protected, people who want to eliminate free speech must not be allowed into power, regardless of how many Stimmviecher (voting oxen, wordplay on the German Rindvieh or -viech, a colloquial and somewhat dated term for cattle) they might be able to ensnare. Otherwise, free speech can’t be protected.”
This is false. You do not protect free speech by banning speech that (in your opinion) threatens it. That’s like “shagging for virginity”, as someone once put it.
You protect free speech by allowing all to speak freely, and strictly forbidding infringements of that, and by trusting that the arguments for free speech, and the habits of free speech and tolerance of dissent, will win out. If they don’t, at least you’ve stood for the principle rather than established yourself as a hypocrite.
*chuckle*
This hasn’t been a fair fight between us and him.
I’m heading for bed.
You said that every nation on Earth has a governmental office doing the same job as Iran’s Guardians Council.
That was either ignorance (and lack of information is not a crime) … or something else.
No, I didn’t. I wrote that candidates for public office get vetted by some office according to some criteria everwhere and not that the criteria used by Iran Guardian Council would be universally applied.
The CONTEXT in which you wrote that did NOT say what you just said. You’re trying to weasel.
The United States has NOTHING of that type. Anyone can run. Anyone can be a write-in candidate.
Only at the top levels (the Presidency, for instance) are there rigid qualifications like you’re implying.
The Guardians Council is composed of religious clerics who judge based up doctrine, dogma and their own opinions.
You stepped in it big-time.
The United States has NOTHING of that type. Anyone can run. Anyone can be a write-in candidate.
Anyone? That would then include me, a German citizen living in the UK, something I don’t quite believe.
That is a childish response. Grow up.
That’s not a childish response, just one demonstrating that your statement is wrong: Candidates for office in the USA have to fulfill certain criteria. Which ought to get us back to what those criteria ought to be. And in my opinion, an aspiration to run a government for the good of the country and not just for the maximum benefit of some faction ought to be among them if a democracy is supposed to work, with democracy not working ad hoc defined as situation as it is in Canada, France or Germany today (three perfectly random examples which just came to my mind).
Considering 22 of months of COVID-19 pseudo-pandemic, I’m personally entirely unconvinced that democracy can actually work. It was sold to us (the Germans, in this case, although not many would agree with this) as the only political system which would guarantee that the stuff which happened since end of March 2020 wouldn’t happen. And that’s a test if failed spectacularly.
You don’t think democracy can work?
Then perhaps you agree with the judgement handed down on Dietrich Bonhoeffer.
French democracy has produced (arguably) a rigid economy where companies avoid expansion because they can’t easily back out of it by laying off workers, when needed. That’s the primary reason for extremely high unemployment among North African immigrants in the banelieus.
German democracy produced Gerhard Schröders’ “Agenda 2010”, which fundamentally changed Germany’s welfare and labor laws.
In the early 2000s, the French & German economies were roughly equal, but then Germany’s began growing, whereas France’s did not.
And you say, you’re unconvinced that democracy will work?
What exactly do you propose in its stead?
Arnold Schwarzenegger could be governor of California, but not President.
Now, grow up and talk sense.
(Or would you like for me, as a historian, to begin commenting on the German political system/s? I don’t think you do. I think you’ll go bouncing off the walls.)
Dietrich Bonhoeffer could have moved to America, applied for and gained citizenship, and been elected Governor of one of the States.
Why wasn’t he considered “qualified” for that in 1930s-40s Germany?
Answer me.
I have no frickin’ idea. Pre-1933, presumably because didn’t belong to the right party at the right time. And post-1933, presumably, because he still didn’t belong to the right party at the right time.
🙂
He belonged to an institution known as the Confessing Church.
You need to study history.
He was hung by the Gestapo, a month before the Soviet Army entered Berlin.
He was murdered because he would not buckle to National Socialist demands for “conformity”.
Would you like to also discuss Martin Niemöller? He was judged unqualified to hold any sort of office, too.
The USA and northern Mexico received tens of thousands of immigrants from the German principalities after the failed revolution/s of 1848. An entire Corps of the Army of the Potomac was made up of them. Fearless fighters. But they were judged unfit for office back home.
I worked with an engineer of Mexican descent, part-German, from the hill country of southern Sonora state. He told me, that entire area had been settled by refugees from ’48.
Prussia thought they were colossally “unfit”.
It seems like either he doesn’t know about (or, perhaps, knows entirely too much) about the structure of Iran’s government.
“they successfully bent an unclearly worded law to a purpose it was never intended to serve”
Just like the Public health Act 1984!
“people who …… must not be allowed to stand in elections …… Also, peddling critical race theory, ie, uncritically racist nonsense, ought to be a punishable offence.”
Clearly you are a believer in neither democracy nor freedom of speech.
As I already wrote in another comment: Freedom of speech is not the same as freedom of indoctrination of dependents. Speech addresses equals. So-called teaching in schools doesn’t.
This is also still an abstract observation: Someone who – for all practical purposes – loathes Canada and Canadians, like Trudeau reportedly does, isn’t going to govern in the interest of these people.
“Freedom of speech is not the same as freedom of indoctrination of dependents. Speech addresses equals. So-called teaching in schools doesn’t.“
What is taught in schools should be the business of the parents and the parents alone.
That would be a completely different conversation and one I don’t really have an opinion on, although I’d intuitively prefer the traditional, German model where teachers are Beamte (a special kind of civil servant invented in Prussia) and the state responsible for setting standards of school education.
What I was referring to was mainly three things
All of this is really party politics and should have no place in education. One cannot have a working, pluralistic democracy when people have to conform to the ideology of a certain party or parties because otherwise, they cannot get the necessary paper certifications to work in anything but unqualified jobs.
NB: This still doesn’t contain any of my opinions on the topic. I’m also absolutely unqualified as leader of people in any way which ought to show up in the writing style.
“I’d intuitively prefer the traditional, German model where teachers are Beamte (a special kind of civil servant invented in Prussia) and the state responsible for setting standards of school education.“
And intuitively I reject any involvement of the state in schooling as pernicious, and harmful to education, culture and society.
The biggest problems in schooling in Britain stem from a century of systematic destruction of the independence of education from state control, and from the imposition of the kinds of indoctrination in schools that you describe, by the state and its leftist proxies.
To think that state control over schooling will only be used to impose things you agree with is the very height of naivety, and of wilful ignoring of the events of the past few decades.
Informational tidbit: The German (or at least Prussian) tradition is different here: Private schools, often run by the Church and usually, only available to the wealthy, while the mass of the population would remain entirely uneducated due to poverty, have existed there forever. The (Prussian) state introduced a system of universal, free elementary schooling for everyone to ensure that all of the population has at least some reading, writing and calculating skills.
Yes, the system here was that there was charitable (mostly church run) education for most by the end of the C19th, rather behind the Prussians, and state involvement was mostly limited to funding construction and.mandating schooling.
Iirc, the Prussian system was notoriously supposedly introduced to ensure better cannon fodder (please do correct me if I’m wrong on that).
The way these governments are carrying on there are going to be civil wars the world over. Far too big for their boots and need bringing down. Hard.
Liberal, my ass. Trudeau is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
More like a hyena – and equally unattractive to the eye.
A black faced sheep!
The Government of the province of Ontario in Canada has zero jurisdiction in America….
They have jurisdiction in Canada. As the property in question has been frozen due to concerns abouts its legitimity (in the sense money made from selling drugs or bribes paid to officials), it cannot legally be spent in Canada in any way: Assuming someone used some this money to order a pizza from a US takeway, to be delivered to someone in Canada, the person delivering it would be committing an offence and everybody who eats any of it, too.
I agree with that; however, a Canadian court cannot order an American company to freeze anything.
What happens on Canadian soil is up to Canada.
Yes. And reportedly, popes used to be Catholics in earlier times. I’m not so sure about the present one.
The money in question cannot legally be spent in Canada while the order is in place. So, unless the organisers of the freedom convoy find a way to relocate Ottawa to the USA (and ensure that neither the town nor any of the protesters ever move back to Canadian jurisdiction), they’re effectively blocked from using this money for anything.
Suitcase… dark of night… wink wink…..
The Police chief of Ottawa made it illegal to supply the Truckers with fuel so what did the people who support them do. Supplied them fuel.
In a similar vein, it would have put Mahatma Gandhi in pickle when he led the Salt March against the British Raj salt laws if he had fretted about the unjust law !
Bad news for Interflora.
How very helpful.
Tallycoin crypto now please.
Sure, they could freeze that too simply by outlawing its use.
But what would that mean? The end of Bitcoin.
How will that go down with the great masse
Completely off topic, but when is the blond buffoon going to fire the Truss buffoon?
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/biden-warns-world-war-whils-truss-says-rostov-and-voronezh-are-not-russian
Firing her?
That a new euphemism is it?
Why fire her? She is a perfect representation of the current state of UK politics.
This is the govt in a supposedly liberal democracy using its might to act against the best interests of the people.
Want something pertinent to the Trudeau camp?
A 2009 book — Liberal Fascism, by Jonah Goldberghttps://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/61186/liberal-fascism-by-jonah-goldberg/
(you can find it in used-book stores for less that that Penguin price)
Nowadays, the word “fascism” is a generic aspersion, meaning nothing. If your neighbor’s dog poops on your driveway, it’s fascist.
IMHO, the fascism and communism of the early 20th Century were sibling ideologies. Leaving the Italian Party, Mussolini turned his brand into ultra-nationalism, but those who caught and shot him had remained globalist. The forms and tactics of government were essentially the same. Stalin and Mao were as fascist as they come. The only reason Hitler flushed emphasis on the Working Classes was because he came to need the support of the industrialists. The Hungarian Revolt of the Fifties was because Soviet rule had abandoned Marxism’s initial principles.
Simplified, fascism is (1) rule by the inner clique in a single, all-powerful party, (2) focuses on achieving hegemonic, Orwellian control over the societal structure, and (3) uses emotion-rooted methods of control over its power base.
It can be nationalistic, or not. It can approve of capitalism, or not. It can be racist or ‘religionist’, or not. Etc.
Benito Mussolini’s definition of fascism was “when you can’t put a cigarette paper between the interests of the government and corporate business interests”.
One would be hard put to find any government in today’s world to which that DOESN’T apply. It obviously applies to the governments of the USA, Britain, Russia, France, and China.
BUT it still means something. It means a lot.
Good point, but the principal “business” interests in China were created (and are still run) by elements of the People’s Liberation Army. Huawei is an example.
IMHO, the fascism and communism of the early 20th Century were sibling ideologies.
This has absolutely not relation to the text whatsoever. Hence, its only conceivable purpose is to create a noisy distraction. Classic disinformation tactics.
‘Student Politics’
Yes this book was a warning………..one nobody heeded .
I hope resisters in Canada are learning a lesson about the stupidity of relying on a single website – ANY single website or internet company. That includes Facebook, Google, and Twitter, as well as lower-traffic “citizens'” sites. Incidentally, most “crowdfunding” sites rely on specific “payment services providers”. For example, Kickstarter uses Stripe. Don’t rely on Paypal, Stripe, WorldPay or anything similar. The resistance in Canada should take a VERY close look at the “bright sparks” in their scene who suggested such a way to proceed. They should also look at how the idea was accepted by those who have the good taste NOT to consider themselves Really Cool Internet Boys. It seems that even after their reliance on GoFundMe was shown to have been misguided, they still relied on another site, GiveSendGo. That is security failure. You gotta be SUPPLE in conflict. Keep on making the same mistake and you’re screwed. Most “crowdfunding” sites are totally in with the state and will never be used to undermine the authorities in any important way. There’s a flick and it can be switched. Please, guys and girls, learn the bigger lesson here. DON’T BE FOOLED AGAIN. Meanwhile the resisters of the world… Read more »
In a sense this is not surprising, if the recipient of the money is deemed to be a criminal (organization), the government has the power to prevent the funding of such.
But of course, nowadays it is the government, not the courts, that decide who is “criminal”.
Herein lies the problem, and we also know the essential solution: put the government officials responsible for such abuse of law in prison, using the appropriate judicial process.
But what if the courts are also against you and siding with the government? Well, tough luck then – you either submit to the so-called “rule of law” or you are treated as criminal and violently abused during an insurrection. There is a small chance of winning an insurrection when all the guys holding the guns are well bribed and against you. This has always been so, otherwise we would have fringe lunatic groups toppling governments left and right.
In a sense this is not surprising, if the recipient of the money is deemed to be a criminal (organization), the government has the power to prevent the funding of such.
A patently absurd statement. Assuming the goverment believes someone to be a criminal, it has the power of prosecution and can possibly eventually obtain a conviction. Until this has happened, the person in question is considered innocent. The government decidedly doesn’t have the power of seizing the propery such a person prior to the trial in order to prevent hiring of defense lawyers (example).
The fringe lunatic groups are the governments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoKaOkqnW9c&ab_channel=Milad%27sView
Canadian Army Major Stephen Chledowski speaks out against tyranny in Canada.
Urgent message five hour ago
There’s a leader. Conviction, courage and the capacity to move.
Compare and contrast with the charlatans holding high office all over the world.
I will say this for covid-19: It sure has upended a lot of pre-existing social/political alignments. And it’s also highlighted what a tough job being a truck driver is. Not just in Canada. But in the the US; and the UK; and probably a bunch of other places too. And probably not just truck driving. There are a lot of crummy jobs out there. Jobs that have very unpleasant working conditions; that exact a dreadful toll on employees health and psyches and dignity; in exchange for low pay and precious little job security. Those citizens of Canada who disagree with the truckers, consider this: Maybe you’ve been taking for granted for too long what goes into the dirt cheap groceries and gee-gaws you buy. That the sort of low-cost just-in-time distribution system that drives down prices at the supermarket or Walmart, comes at a cost. I’d not want to be a trucker in Canada. I certainly wouldn’t want to be a trucker in the UK. Spending a few nights trying to grab a few hours of fitful sleep parked in a lay-by, or searching desperately for a place to use the toilet. Dealing with Britain’s narrow, congested streets. And being… Read more »
It may also be a good opportunity to raise prices (those BAAAD truckers are to blame, just like you can easily blame pandemic on the BAAAD unvaccinated). A bit later it will give a nice reason to ban cryptocurrencies (which could be used to fund all kinds of BAAAD guys, after all). In that sense, the truckers and other such “radicals” are warmly welcome and contributing to accomplishing the goals of the future global government and surveillance superstate.
Hmm, so resistance is bad because it will give another pretext to those in charge to crack down..
Nice worldview.
The 77th Brigade world view.
Criminals! Even the Canadian Police are criminals. There are videos on Telegram of them stealing truckers’ diesel and their logs for fuel.
Resorting to dirty tricks shows real weakness. Go truckers 🇨🇦
The arrogance of the Canadian government seems to know no bounds! They must be really scared of this growing working class movement though. They’ll try every trick in the book to break this movement, let’s hope the truckers and their supporters can stay strong!
Quick note on Bitcoin: it’s about as “fiat” a currency as it is possible to get.
Those who keep using “fiat” to mean “old” and “not as fashionable as what I use” are morons at best. I pity those of them who are not rich and who have chucked their money into a big hole after falling hook, line, and sinker for a promise of “get rich quick”. The same kind of thing happened before the Great Crash of 1929. This time it’s more likely to happen after someone sees a photo on Reddit of some guy with a huge amount of cash on his table, but it’s essentially the same. Of course Bitcoin is “fiat”. They should look the term “fiat” up in a dictionary.
Bitcoin: “worse than a Ponzi scheme“.
PS This is not meant to argue against all possible tactical use of Bitcoin. I don’t doubt that Bitcoin can be used tactically to good advantage. Just don’t get sucked in. The idea that “the state can’t do anything about it” is false.
Well yes but the mechanism for controlling how much of it is created is for now outside of the control of individual governments. To an extent any currency is “fiat”. There’s nothing wrong with that, per se, as long as the power to create it is used sensibly.
Fiat is a Security.
Bitcoin (by which I mean BSV not BTC) is a … Commodity.
The violinist Jascha Haifetz was asked after a concert why he continued playing when he broke a string. He said that it is our duty to make something beautiful from what we have left.We are moving into a time where sources of strength and certainty will disappear rapidly and yet we need to find what Reinhold Niebhur called the sublime madness. The path that gives us hope out of no hope.This is where the salvation lies, in a place that the corporate nightmare can never touch.
I like this.
Just not sure about “corporate nightmare”…. can we just call it a nightmare?
Canada worse thank China
Don’t let them divide us with their serpent tongue. We either face up to this monstrosity, which includes our own acquiesence or we die. This is the human spirit. It doesn’t matter if it takes decades to bring it to heel we have an opportunity to grasp the nettle. This period from 2020-2040 will be vital in determining the spiritual destiny of humanity. Look at the strength we have garnered and the new recruits. We do have it in out grasp to push human destiny forward. The damage that has been done to children over the last two years – we can rectify all of that and they are starting to see it themselves.
They won’t fail they are the vanguard and they know it. I lived among northern people and they are slow to anger but their fighting spirit once roused is way beyond the guttersnipes who occupy positions of power.You can’t argue with a night spent out in minus twenty.
There are many times through every day when I think that I must leave all mankind, to live to fight only Nature’s laws.
But then I remind myself that human nature is a force of Nature.
The Ford Government in Canada have gone to court to freeze all the truckers funds, and I think this also means the alternative donation site.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ford-announcement-ontario-protests-1.6347810
At a press conference Friday, Ford said he will convene cabinet and “urgently enact orders that will make crystal clear it is illegal and punishable to block and impede the movement of goods, people and services along critical infrastructure.”
“This will include protecting international border crossings, 400-series highways, airports, ports, bridges and railways. It will also include protecting the safe and essential movement of ambulatory and medical services, public transit, municipal and provincial roadways, as well as pedestrian walkways,” Ford said.
“Fines for non-compliance will be severe, with a maximum penalty of $100,000 and up to a year imprisonment. We will also provide additional authority to consider taking away the personal and commercial licenses of anyone who doesn’t comply with these orders.”
However, his government also declined a third invitation to participate in trilateral talks to deal with ongoing protests, sources told CBC News on Thursday.
However, his government also declined a third invitation to participate in trilateral talks to deal with ongoing protests, sources told CBC News on Thursday.
They still won’t talk to the truckers.
A powerful speech by a brave Canadian physician in support of the Canadian truckers. Should resonate everywhere there are ‘vaccine mandates’ either in force or being considered.
https://drtrozzi.org/2022/02/11/dr-francis-christian-with-the-truckers-important-8-min-video/
They need a second amendment…I expect there are a lot of Guns in Canada, Shotguns (I had one ,Cooey, crock of shit) rifles etc. All those bears you see!
You have to bear in mind that these guys have nowhere to go Many of them have taken the shots and they stand up nonetheless. This is battleground earth and they know it. It is a very dangerous situation when you force a number of people into believing that they have nothing left to lose.
I agree.
Little boy Justin was probably screaming “HOLY CRAP” as he fled the city the other day.
His father invoked the War Measures Act. I’d dearly love to see the little bed-wetter try that in this case.
Reminds me of the Dylan song, When The Ship Comes in. His days are truly numbered. He caused a lot of pain. If it was up to me I would not recommend mercy.