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Mark
4 years ago

Paul Embery
@PaulEmbery

When Rees-Mogg, Gove and Farage were abused on the street by baying mobs, most people didn’t give a toss. In fact, much of the Twitterati laughed along. My point is that people should be consistent about these things. If your outrage is selective, it ain’t genuine.

https://twitter.com/PaulEmbery/status/1490836229625049091

Just like the shameful posturing over Johnson’s routine knockabout comments on Starmer, the followup posturing over Starmer getting some perfectly normal public political abuse (and far less than he deserves, given his abject failure to oppose the greatest peacetime domestic policy disaster in our history, or indeed to represent anybody but the leftist elites he serves) only provides useful information about those doing the posturing.

Anybody claiming that Johnson’s comment was in any way unusual in our plitics, or that the treatment of Starmer was somehow “unacceptable”, can and should be dismissed as shallow and dishonest.

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Abp. Viganò endorses Canadian truck drivers, calls for prayers to defeat ‘infernal’ Great Reset
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/abp-vigano-endorses-canadian-truck-drivers-may-your-efforts-be-crowned-with-success/
Carlo Maria Viganò, Archbishop

Let’s follow the example 

Tuesday 8th February 2pm to 3pm
 Yellow Boards By the Road 
A329 junction London Road & Oak Avenue 
Near Oakingham Belle pub
Wokingham RG40 1LH

Stand in the Park Sundays 10am  make friends, ignore the madness & keep sane 
Wokingham Howard Palmer Gardens Cockpit Path car park Sturges Rd RG40 2HD  
Henley Mills Meadows (at the bandstand) Henley-on-Thames RG9 1DS

Telegram Group 
http://t.me/astandintheparkbracknell

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

If you hear the voice of the common people, expressed plainly, but saying little more than “You don’t represent us”, and that makes you feel “threatened and intimidated”, then doesn’t that rather confirm the accusation?

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Practically every rag has the front cover claim Starmer was attacked by an “anti-vaxx mob”. You can clearly see from their placards that they were Labour supporters shouting about him being a useless leader.

However, more to the point is that the protest looked completely fake anyway.

john ball
john ball
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

having been on lot of marches against mandatory vaccines etc,I have recognized those there were the most active and committed in the cause (for which I applaud and thank them); . They were there to support the UK version of the Canadian truckers convoy. By chance for them, Starmer walked by so he was asked among other things why he had not been a proper opposition leader (eg opposed Govt. policies). I agree that it looks like a set up (he was never at any risk and the crowd were not that hostile). how come Starmer chose to walk just there, looks like a set up arranged between both Govt. and opposition to aid the proposed legislation banning protests

Mumbo Jumbo
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

So police protect Starmer from people saying hurty things; where did all those cops appear from? Could they have been warned in advance that Starmer would choose to provoke the protest for political reasons?
Did he engage with any of the protesters? Didn’t appear to say a word.
Was there a threat of violence? Not that I could see.
Were there any anti-vaxx banners? None on show.

john ball
john ball
4 years ago
Reply to  Mumbo Jumbo

please see my response above, in fact all the people there were opposed to mandatory vaccines etc. if you look at films taken before the incident quite a few people were holding banners saying for instance “no vaccine passports” and “no vaccine mandates”

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  john ball

Malcolm Hill
@malc_hill
Replying to 
@nazirafzal
 and 
@georgegalloway
Organised event and they must have heard the noise and police who were attending so why did they walk through it when he has a car and security. 
Put up job

https://twitter.com/malc_hill/status/1491056667429306369

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Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

However, more to the point is that the protest looked completely fake anyway.

John Ball’s comments here seem pretty credible to me.

It was quite possibly just a case of Starmer happening to walk past a demo by people to whom his politics and behaviour are anathema, and getting the inevitable response.

Nothing unusual in politics. I can certainly remember conservatives routinely getting much worse from leftists in the 1980s and onwards.

This is most likely just a case of opportunist hypocrisy by dishonest politicians and pundits, abetted by their propagandist allies in the media and on social media.

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Maybe. Still lying to Parliament and the electorate, repeatedly, is not a good look for a PM.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

In my experience, which covers ten prime ministers that I have been fairly well aware of, “lying to Parliament and the electorate, repeatedly” is pretty much the job description.

The issue is usually whether they can be specifically proved to have done so, and whether there’s any interest on the part of powerful people and institutions to do so and to make a issue of it.

Regardless, there are many profound reasons to criticise Johnson and to regard him as unfit for office (whether in pragmatic terms removing him would be beneficial is another matter), but they do not include his comment about Starmer.

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Agreed but this time round it seems egregious. His “excuses” for the Downing Street parties might as well have come from a child prone to lying. Wasn’t there. Was there. Didn’t realised it was a party. Didn’t know the rules he implemented. Carrie made him do it. And so on…

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

Doesn’t even begin to approach Blair’s performance in office. And Blair never had to resign over any of his lies. Barely faced much mainstream criticism for them untl long after it was irrelevant.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Selective outrage:

https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1491026509381136386

When Jacob Rees-Mogg had to be escorted by police as he walked home with his son to pro-Remain screams of “shame on you”, “traitor” and “Nazi”. I don’t seem to recall this level of condemnation for the actions of politicians that stoked up such rhetoric towards pro-Brexit MPs.”

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

And the same point but from the other side (in both senses):

George Galloway
@georgegalloway
3h

I was seriously assaulted in 2014 and could well have been killed whilst I was a member of parliament. Neither Keir Starmer, nor most of the political class, nor most of the media gave a toss about it. Spare me the faux outrage, please. #KeirStarmer

George Galloway
@georgegalloway
2m

I oppose threatening behaviour against politicians, whether Farage, Gove, Rees Mogg, Corbyn or Starmer. Because I know where it can lead. 99% of those salivating about #KeirStarmer are hypocrites. That’s all.

https://twitter.com/georgegalloway

crisisgarden
4 years ago

Jimmy Carr’s Holocaust joke has caused a short circuit in my morality mainframe. Ostensibly a man I find repulsive has made a repulsive joke, which has then been criticised by people I find repulsive and used to justify repulsive policies. They say the enemy of my enemy is my friend but I can’t identify any friends here. This is more like establishment autophagy. The enemy of my enemy in this case is also an enemy.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

The issue here is not who is the enemy, it’s that freedom of speech trumps all such considerations. Or should, anyway.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Although Carr also spouted hate speech against the unvaxxed?
Deep breath…

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Oops, see above, response to crisisgarden.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Yes I knew about this. He’s already on the 📝

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

He did, and that includes both of us.

The point is that if you fail to oppose the outrage mob when they are baying for the figurative blood of one whose words you hate and despise, what credibility can you have when you later oppose them for coming for someone whose words you like, on grounds, supposedly, of the principle of freedom of speech?

It’s very noticeable to me that in all the mainstream comments I’ve seen about the reasons to hate Carr, his noxious bullying of “vaccine” resisters is absent from the lists given of his crimes.

Granted, it’s understandable for people to decline to defend those whose opinions they find noxious – that’s part of the reason Young’s point about most people liking speech controls is true. But it’s the ultimate test of one’s commitment to freedom of speech and imo one should at the least remain silent when the mob is coming for someone whose opinions you especially hate.

The exception is where one expresses schadenfreude in response to those who have used outrage mobbing as a tool in the past, and now find themselves targeted.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

saw a little bit of it – it wasn’t pretty

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I subscribed to Jimmy Carr YouTube until he posted a live clip from his show of him inviting members of his audience to put their hand up of they were unvaxxed.

Clearly not many did but he told them through the PA

“Well take that hand and slap yourself round the f*cking face . . .”*

Bulk of audience collapse in mocking laughter.

Search YT jimmy carr anti vax = 1st listing

(*fair use, quotation”)

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

We’re a good demographic to attack as we’re a minority. It’s a minority in very glad to be in though!

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Carr then said it was the “voice of reason” – that clip which Alex Belfield then poached for his “Voice of Reason” YT channel!

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Carr enjoys free speech by abusing unvaxxed paying members of his audience and encouraging the others to do likewise.

Autophagy: good word.
Wish I had it when my mum complained about me chewing my nails and eating snot.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Well the unvaxxed can tap his little heart disease riddled head when he’s in hospital.

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Didn’t realise people still watched the BBC.

You don’t have to you know. Save you a lot of grief

Mark
4 years ago

I don’t think anybody here is going to be “allowing Carr into the fold”.

The whole point is precisely that we face unprecedented and potentially catastrophic blows to what remains of our freedom of speech in this country, and the whole assault on free speech was built on the failure to understand that the defence of free speech begins with those whose speech you most dislike.

That’s where it began, with the demonisation and suppression of politically incorrect speech in the late C20th – conservative, “racist”, “homophobic”, “sexist” “anti-semitic”, later “islamophobic”, etc).

And that’s where it has to be halted, with an unequivocal support for the speech we dislike the most, except perhaps where it is those pushing, or formerly pushing, woke censorship themselves who are facing it for a change. In those cases, it can represent a useful object lesson in how this kind of totalitarianism turns back on those pushing it on others.

Susan
4 years ago

So Ye Old Fighting Cocks survived the Black Death, but not Covid-19.

Londo Mollari
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

It survived the Vikings (793 being the date of the first attack by the North Men on these shores), not to mention the Norman Conquest and the Civil War.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Surprised it survived WW2 with all our American guests in London.
To them “Cock” means just one thing which they regard as a very rude thing indeed.

A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

the pandemic had made it unviable

actually I think it was the government that made it unviable.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

As usual, “the pandemic did it” stands in for “the pandemic response did it”.

Mark
4 years ago

Oh, Canada

Jordan Peterson on good form, discussing the situation of the Freedom Truckers in Canada, their prospects, and the wider moral, political, social and cultural contexts.

As usual, highly intelligent analysis, that one can quibble with here and there but one will almost inevitably learn something from, and certainly get some thought provoking insights to take away.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I always enjoy the way Jordan tones back his cleverness to avoid embarrassing a thick as two short planks audience student with his veracity.

Mark
4 years ago

Rumble offers Joe Rogan $100 million to bring show to video platform
Spotify said that Rogan then decided to remove more than 70 episodes from the podcast library. “

This is a different take from that reported elsewhere, where it was suggested that Spotify was censoring episode. Perhaps both are happening?

Interesting to see if this one goes anywhere.

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Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

They are of course not serious. They don’t have a fraction of that to pay, and you don’t open negotiations with a public offer, as you’ll only ever be haggled up from there in private.

Still, it’s a clever way of buying some free publicity.

Londo Mollari
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Rumble has recently been in a merger deal with Locals.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

They are of course not serious. They don’t have a fraction of that to pay, and you don’t open negotiations with a public offer, as you’ll only ever be haggled up from there in private.”

I don’t know if it’s serious or not, but this is an established tech startup in the US – if they want $100m and they can offer a credible basis for it being a moneymaking proposition (such as having one of the most popular streamers in the world on board), they could have it tomorrow, no problem.

Speaking as someone who negotiated settlements for a living for many years, putting an opening offer out there to structure the other side’s expectations is absolutely a viable tactic in many situations.

Still, it’s a clever way of buying some free publicity.

Absolutely – a no lose proposition for Rumble, serious or not.

Username1
4 years ago

Homes risk energy rating downgrade if they install a heat pump” – Ministers are to overhaul Energy Performance Certificate rules amid fears of a hit to house prices, reports the Telegraph

Ah….air source heat pumps….the solution to the most pressing crisis the world faces – how to get to “net zero”. Burn more natural gas (of which there is a growing demand) make it into electricity, transmit that across the network, pay 3x more per thermal unit than mains gas, lose energy in transmission inefficiency, use electricity to power your pump (that costs as much as a good car) and discover that it only pays to use it when the weather is warm. Genius 😀

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Trabant
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

Yep. I’ve commented elsewhere the thermal economics are crazy. Converting Gas ( or coal ) to electricity and then transmitting it to homes is only about 30% efficient. So you gain NO (carbon dioxide reduction ) BENEFIT by using Heat Pumps to heat your home.

Username1
4 years ago
Reply to  Trabant

The transition of the UK and similar economies to Net Zero (in itself a term that can be best described as “crackpot thinking”) will make the privations we have suffered during the self inflicted lockdown damage look like a tea party. Real engineering has been replaced by policy shaped by the likes of Carrie Johnson and her know nothing Extinction Rebellion/Insulate Britain mates.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

That graph looks wildly optimistic. The numbers I’ve seen claimed for air-source reverse-fridges claim a COP of no higher than 2 at any point where you’ll need to use them, plummeting towards 1 at 0C and below

One post-installation analysis reckoned that the home (a well insulated detached 2 story) would be as well off just using direct electric heating inside the rooms that were in use, at anywhere below 10C. And when I say “well off”, I of course mean “very badly off”. That’s just on running costs, not taking into account the vast installation cost of the system.

These things feel like compensation suits waiting to happen, although the installers will of course just fold the moment any claim is resolved.

bluewoody
bluewoody
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

Indeed! A couple of years ago I found a study from a German university which concluded that there was no appreciable ecological benefit of electric cars by the time you’ve factored in every aspect of the manufacturing process, mining of the cobalt etc etc.

DS99
4 years ago
Reply to  bluewoody

Commonsense has been telling me this for years. When I was a kid, white goods lasted practically my entire childhood but every few years I have to replace my eco friendly/energy saving white goods because they just don’t last. This presumably has nothing to do with the energy saving aspect to them, they’re just a flimsier all round build quality. And don’t get me started on all this ending up in landfill and being carted around the country.

Believe me, if this was really about saving the planet some very different decisions/policies would be in the offing such as insisting on excellent build quality and helping the less well off to pay for longer lasting machines. None of this is rocket science, it’s just commonsense. Rant over.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  bluewoody

It’s obvious basically because the cost is more for a similar thing!

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

Yes, they are worse than useless in anything other than a very well insulated property. And as all pre-1920 housing stock in UK uses traditional building materials including solid walls, modern insulation put on internal or external walls designed to breath to release moisture in the UK climate will just create damp that would destroy the fabric of the building.
A lot of the UK housing stock is totally incompatible with these things.

DS99
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

This is my fear, I live in a Victorian house. Thank you for flagging this up.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

House affordability could do with a boost (hit is the MSM mouthpieces nonsense term)

Mark
4 years ago

“I think the natural human default position is to reject free speech” – Toby tells Nigel Farage on GB News that it takes an “enormous amount of work” for a society to protect free speech. Our host is correct here, but at the weekend I was discussing Noah Carl’s argument for our dire situation in this regard being a consequence of the increased involvement of women in these matters with a longstanding committed leftist, and his interpretation was that Carl is correct and it represents a shift from the adversarial structure arising from the old male dominated political discourse, towards a new one incorporating female attitudes. A new application for me of an old feminist trope, but giving us the rather depressing prospect of facing a real challenge in recovering our former and far better approach to freedom of speech. The strong influence of women in the top levels of our society is not going away any time soon, absent civil war and societal collapse, I suspect. Did women in academia cause wokeness? “So, why would the influx of women into academia have contributed to its leftward shift, and to the rise of woke activism in particular? As the psychologist Cory Clark notes,… Read more »

Londo Mollari
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I suspect that in an energy scare world, male characteristics such as physical strength would be privileged and not despised.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

No doubt, but short, as I said, of an actual collapse, I don’t see it changing the situation in this regard materially any time soon.

Amtrup
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Very interesting point, ref the different kind of “anti-social behaviour” associated with or more likely to be engaged in by women as opposed to men. Thought provoking. Thank you for the quotes, refs, links etc.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Amtrup

ref the different kind of “anti-social behaviour” associated with or more likely to be engaged in by women as opposed to men. Thought provoking.

I thought so, especially when you consider the rise of “cancel culture”, mediated via social media.

Peterson:

male mode of antisocial behaviour = punching people

female mode of antisocial behaviour = reputational destruction – scales on social media 

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I’m going to go out on a limb here, and speak on the basis only of my direct observation.
I’ve noticed that women in possession of political or executive power have a tendency to model themselves as supermums: I understand everything; I can look after you all; and I know best.
Men who disagree with them are infantilised as naughty boys; women who disagree as bad girls.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Seems to me this could also be an instance of Peterson’s wider point about the female mode of antisocial behaviour.

And infantilisation has clearly been a huge part in the changes to our societies over the past couple of generations – control of speech to protect from supposed harm is inherently infantilising, as is big government nanny stating, and accusing people making grown up points about cost/benefit of “putting money ahead of lives”.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Humans and other animals have been using generalisation to assist them in the business of living since the beginning of time. It’s simply childish to be unable to distinguish between observing that something is generally true and believing it to be true all the time, but that seems to be where we are now, and it’s incredibly unhelpful. Of course it should be noted that if generalisations are about groups that are not beloved of those running the world these days, they get a free pass.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Of course it should be noted that if generalisations are about groups that are not beloved of those running the world these days, they get a free pass.

Obviously, for the leftist hypocrites there’s bad generalisation – that argues against their agenda – and there’s good generalisation that doesn’t.

It’s simply childish to be unable to distinguish between observing that something is generally true and believing it to be true all the time, but that seems to be where we are now”

Indeed. Have been for quite some time now.

Mark
4 years ago

[NB “libs” here is American for globalist leftists]

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Londo Mollari
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Good one!

Amtrup
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Agree with Londo that this is a very good comment-cartoon, but at the same time have to say that although I am totally anti-vax-mandates etc I would quite probably have mental breakdown/be close to suicidal if I was subjected to the constant/frequent honking of many truck horns outside my flat/in the neighbourhood throughout the day and intermittently/at irregular intervals during the night for days on end, plus the constant background vibration/reverberation of big truck engines idling as they heat their cabs, etc. In fact, based on how I feel whenever a car alarm starts going off at night in the nearest car park ( and it seems to take the owner three or four goes to switch it off properly ) I’d be wanting to kill people, or myself, after just a couple of days of it. So I do actually sympathise quite deeply with the people leading the class action law suit against the truckers for the noise “nuisance”. I am “on the truckers’ side” in principle, really rooting for them, hoping that they will prevail etc …. but would be wishing desperately that they be swept away/removed as fast as possible … 🙁 The assurance that the truckers… Read more »

scaredmama
scaredmama
4 years ago
Reply to  Amtrup

I think most of the people living in that area are government employees. I might be wrong, but its right in the government centre area, i don’t think its ordinarily residential?

Amtrup
4 years ago
Reply to  scaredmama

Ah, ok, I hadn’t realised that the the truckers protest had concentrated itself so heavily in just a govt area. I hope you’re right about that meaning very few residents. But I still feel very sorry for anyone living there/nearby who actually agrees with the truckers but can’t bear the noise. Even a weekend of fairly background railway engineering works, or two or three nights of fireworks around Guy Fawkes night will seriously wreck my sleep and my mental equanimity.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Amtrup

Oh, then it would be better to accede to tyranny then.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Amtrup

Understandable response, but I suppose this comes into the category of “can’t make an omelette without breaking some eggs”.

When the political establishment refuses to listen or to represent people, and imposes gross injustices, what alternative is there but to protest, and what is the point in protest that doesn’t make some noise and force attention?

But clearly there’s a vital balance to be made between attracting attention and alienating neutrals or even supporters. This is something vitally relevant to the Truckers’ protests atm, as Jordan Peterson mentions in the piece linked previously.

Annie
4 years ago

I call on Savij Jabbid to be cancelled for the tasteless joke of sacking people formerly hailed as heroes, for the crime of defending their bodies against medical assault,

Zionist
Zionist
4 years ago

I thought Carr’s joke was very funny, no subject matter should be verboten when it comes to jokes, not even spastics. Should I be prosecuted for this opinion?

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Zionist

No

Trabant
4 years ago
Reply to  Zionist

I had a good friend a few years back who’s sister unfortunately had that condition. He was a big chap who loved his sister and he used to call her ( to her face ) “You’re a f***ing Cr***le” – he told us she found it very amusing 🙂
This whole trying to protect people from hate speach is 99% of the time bo**ox IMHO ( and experience )

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Zionist

Yes according to a SNP councillor:

https://twitter.com/CountDankulaTV/status/1490298245255475205

See also Toby Young’s comments in the atl link about the natural human default position being to reject free speech, and the discussions in my other posts here.

Make no mistake, the current threat to freedom of speech is a real and present danger to all of us here.

Joining the FSU seems like the first obvious step in response.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Jimmy Carr and his Netflix hate speech, and his applauding audience, should be prosecuted

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Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago

I have to ask….what is “catgender”, and why is Bristol University troubled by it?

Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

I can help you a little bit: There are also a lot of people who identify as dogs, or mainly puppies, or other kind of animals, and dress up accordingly, known as furries. Strangely enough, one of my US podcast was talking about furries last week, as apparently there was a headline that a school was told to provide litterboxes for people who identify as an animal which would use one. Of course the school will not, and no pupil wants one either. Most people who identify as an animal, it is an escape from daily life for them. to dress up and take on animals like behaviour, and it is something they do at home with a partner or at get togethers with like minded people. Puppies are very popular in the gay kinky scene. Usually it is women who identify as cats, so yes, this has to do with feminism I guess, and the British are just cat mad. When I visited my parents in Germany, we once saw a documentary about expats in Turkey, and they reported on a woman who owned a house just occupied by cats. I said to my parents, she is not German,… Read more »

smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

I self identify as a multimillionaire. On this basis I’m going to go down to the Bentley dealer this afternoon and order a car.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

There are also a lot of people who identify as dogs, or mainly puppies, or other kind of animals, and dress up accordingly, known as furries

Define “a lot” please, in this case. I mean it’s disturbing that there are such obviously deranged or infantile people among us (not that I’m saying they are particularly dangerous or need to be targeted in any way), but it seems unlikely that it’s really a high proportion of the population.

I assume it’s akin to saying that a disease with an ifr well below 1% kills “a lot” of people, in a very large population.

Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Quite right, maybe they are not “a lot”.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Ask any pussy.

Mumbo Jumbo
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

When I was a lad (that refers to age not gender!) we used to have a name for people with these conditions – we called them mental.

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Bristol students are troubled by everything bar their own intense stupidity. They need to go back home to be looked after by Mummy, until they are adults. Which looks like it will never happen. The Left is eating itself alive, in public view.

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago

Babies and Toddlers: The Next COVID Jab Guinea Pigs?
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/02/08/pfizer-covid-vaccine-for-kids.aspx
Pfizer Seeks COVID Shot Authorization for Children Under 5
Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola

Let’s keep getting the message out

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Near Oakingham Belle pub
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A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago

Professor Sir John Bell decided to lay at his and other politicians’ door the ‘hundreds of thousands’ of deaths he thinks the the AstraZeneca jab would have prevented,

Bell needs to put down Ferguson’s crack pipe.

J4mes
4 years ago

While people celebrated Savij Jabid pausing the mandate for NHS staff, the signs were there for all to see that he was not going to falter on forcing people to get jabbed or lose their job.

This is the same POS who is joining his fellow crooks in attacking freedom of speech.

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Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Indeed, they’re evil, not entirely stupid (contrast with Kween Krankie and the Welsh Mayor, who are both evil and stupid). Tyranny scales more easily when you outsource it.

See, it’s not a law, it’s just a contractual term. That’s a civil matter, nothing to do with your dear regime.

Similarly, the pending Crimethink Bill (nee Online Harms Bill) will gulag people for having the wrong opinion as determined by “experts”. It’s not the government that’s criminalising your thought, it’s just the “scientists” chosen by the committees chosen by the quango chosen by the government.

What are you complaining about? Anyone can apply to be on that quango, and if you were an Oxford PPE graduate, Common Purpose black belt, of WEF Youth member, you might even be in with a chance.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

“See, it’s not a law, it’s just a contractual term. That’s a civil matter, nothing to do with your dear regime.”

But it is still a mandate – issued by him – just in another guise. Disgusting.

And the Crimethink bill will turn the likes of us into criminals for the offence of circulating covid misinformation

smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Surely this will have the same effect though. If the regulator forces staff to be vaccinated then they will simply leave, same as they were going to do when it was Jabid forcing them to be vaccinated.

BurlingtonBertie
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

This is actually worse as without the regulatory piece of paper, these individuals can’t practise at all. It will leave them jobless & a total waste of their years of experience. This is all about removing a dissenting element from the workforce or forcing compliance. Absolutely nothing to do with health.
He is an absolute barsteward!

Milo
Milo
4 years ago

That hadn’t occurred to me BB – that is way worse – not just being forced to leave their jobs, but unable to practice their profession due to being unregulated.

What we need is a parallel unjabbed regulator – a regulatory body which regulates the credentials and qualifications of the unjabbed, so allowing them to continue to work, outside the dratted NHS, while remaining unjabbed. Fuelmich was talking about this in his most recent video.

Cover this issue GB News, because you can be sure as shooting MSM and BBC won’t

The doctor who spoke truth to Javid about why he wasn’t getting the vaccine is on record as saying that he had been required to treat young people admitted with harms post vaccination who had then died from it.

smithey
4 years ago

Given the current climate of been able to self identify as whatever you want can the unvaccinated simply self identify as vaccinated?

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

No, because I am not playing their effing game.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago

In Delingpole’s piece about Melbourne ”These measures included: a declared ‘state of disaster’ giving police carte blanche to enter your home and carry out spot checks without permission or a warrant; an 8pm to 5am curfew; a ban on leaving home in the day except for food and essentials, care and caregiving, daily exercise or work; exercise to last no longer than an hour and to be conducted within a 5km radius of your home; mandatory masks, even outdoors.” France April to June 2020, exactly the same, and more or less repeated later in the year. Which of course is part of the reason so many citizens flocked to get jabbed when it was promised to stop them having to impose it again in 2021.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

They’re not police then!

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago

Environmental Modelling Group Calls For Jab Passports To Force The Young To Get Jabbed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=399R-hNGkF8
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4PureBlood
4PureBlood
4 years ago

FDA revokes Emergency Use Authorization for Monoclonal Antibody treatment for Covid-19. Looks like the FDA is pushing for the Pfizer and Merck antiviral pills. This is so wrong. Big pharma essentially writes and directs the policies for federal health agencies. Everything health agencies do benefits pharma. They need to stop all experimental tx and focus on the real treatments like ivermectin and HCQ. There’s no need to make people Guinea pigs when there are proven safe drugs. Get your ivermectin before it is too late https://ivmpharmacy.com

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

The Metro newspaper:”Why do some people not get Covid?”
WHAT?
Are we supposed to feel guilty?