What Really Happened at the Start of the COVID-19 Pandemic?

At this two-year point in the pandemic, I’ve been revisiting what happened at the start to get a clearer idea of how things unfolded and whether what happened then can tell us anything useful about the virus. Here’s what we know.

In the last week of December 2019, a doctor in Wuhan noticed unusual pneumonia in six patients who all tested positive for a new coronavirus. We can surmise that to have hospitalised six unconnected people (not all linked to the Huanan market), the new virus must have been circulating in Wuhan for some weeks. Internal reporting of this cluster led to the first public message of a suspected pneumonia outbreak, with precautions advised, from the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission on December 31st. At this point there were just 27 identified cases in hospital, seven of them serious – which wouldn’t seem out of the ordinary for winter.

Despite this inauspicious start, Hubei province went on (according to official data) to have a deadly outbreak, though one that was notably slower burning and milder than later Covid outbreaks elsewhere. It totalled around 4,500 deaths out of a population of 57 million people, making it around a tenth as deadly as the first wave in the U.K., and peaked at 143 reported daily deaths on February 19th (suggesting the infection peak was late January). This doesn’t seem a particularly high death toll for a winter respiratory virus.

Notably, this initial deadly outbreak was very localised. Hubei was locked down on January 23rd, but prior to that the virus circulated freely for weeks, while millions of people left the province ahead of the lockdown. Despite this, no other province in China suffered a deadly outbreak (see below). While we might be inclined to question China’s official data, it fits with what happened in neighbouring countries – no other country in the region suffered a deadly outbreak of the new virus. South Korea’s outbreak peaked at six reported daily deaths on March 30th, Japan’s (which was the worst in the region) at 24 on May 1st.

The lack of deadly outbreak outside Hubei explains why most people were largely ignoring the rumours of another virus in the East at that time. It appeared to be fizzling out, having done little anywhere outside Wuhan, and the WHO refrained from declaring a pandemic. In all likelihood we would have just carried on ignoring it, as we did the earlier bird flu and swine flu scares, were it not for what happened next.

An outbreak in Lombardy in northern Italy led the local government there to order a lockdown – the first after Hubei – in 10 towns covering around 50,000 people on February 21st 2020, seemingly a panic measure in response to the first death in the region. However, that seems to have been an aberration and there was no wider push for restrictions at that point. That came two weeks later, on March 8th, when the Italian Government locked down the northern part of the country. Two days later, it locked the whole country down. The trigger for this appears to have been the extraordinary jump in the death toll. On March 7th Italy reported 36 deaths. On March 8th it reported 133, and on March 10th it reported 168, with full ICUs portending many more to come. The daily toll quickly climbed to a peak of 919 just over two weeks later on March 27th. The WHO declared a pandemic on March 11th, the day after Italy locked down.

It quickly became clear in the first two weeks of March that the outbreaks in Europe were orders of magnitude more deadly than anything seen in the East (see above). A week after Italy, Spain’s death toll climbed at a similarly alarming rate, and other countries soon followed. Italy reached one death per million on March 9th, Spain on March 16th, New York on March 20th, France and Netherlands on March 21st, Sweden on March 23rd and U.K. on March 25th, and all kept climbing to levels far beyond what had been seen in Hubei let alone elsewhere in South East Asia. In this panicked context, the go-to response became lockdown.

Working back from the pattern of deaths, it appears that these deadly outbreaks began in each country at some point in February, many within days of each other, and grew fast. These outbreaks are plausibly linked to one another, and notably follow a similar pattern to the later outbreaks associated with the emergence of variants such as Alpha, Delta and Omicron, where an initial outbreak in one country (in this case Italy) is soon followed by similar outbreaks in other countries as the new variant quickly spreads internationally. This suggests the initial deadly wave in Europe and the U.S. may have been caused by the emergence in northern Italy of a deadlier variant than had been seen in the East. Supporting this, while these outbreaks emerged within days of each other during February and followed a similar pattern of severity, they occurred months after the Hubei outbreak, which (projecting back from the death curve) began some time in November or October 2019, and was a much longer, slower burn. One explanation is the Hubei outbreak was caused by a less transmissible, less deadly variant. If so, it’s unclear why this ‘Hubei variant’ didn’t have the same effect elsewhere in South East Asia or the world – why was the deadly outbreak entirely localised to Hubei? Nonetheless, there is evidence that some form of SARS-CoV-2 was present globally throughout the winter of 2019-20 – though with that winter being in many countries the least deadly in history, this variant or variants was evidently either very mild or not very transmissible or both.

Since the emergence of the (hypothesised) nastier variant of SARS-CoV-2 in Italy in February 2020, similarly virulent variants have emerged such as Alpha and Delta, while Omicron may be a return to an earlier milder form. If so, was it just bad luck that, just as SARS-CoV-2 seemed to be fizzling out in February 2020, a nastier variant emerged in Italy that terrorised the world and shunted us into copying China’s overreaction in Hubei? Or was there something about SARS-CoV-2 that made this occurrence inevitable, or at least odds-on? Does the furin cleavage site that makes it so transmissible make it more likely it would hang around long enough to mutate into the more dangerous forms we have seen?

Mentioning the furin cleavage site brings up the suspicion that the virus originated in a lab, presumably as a leak. A furin cleavage site is not found in viruses of this sort in the wild but is a common change made to them in a lab. If it did leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, presumably the leaked virus is the one responsible for the localised deadly outbreak in Hubei (otherwise the connection between the outbreak and the leak would be coincidental). Was it then milder variants of the leaked virus that went round the world that winter, rather than the deadlier one in Hubei? If not, why did only Hubei have a deadly outbreak in December 2019-January 2020, even though the virus appears already to have been present around the world by December?

Seeing the emergence of the pandemic in late 2019 and early 2020 as, in part, a variant story, helps to fill in some gaps, such as the odd delay between the Hubei outbreak in November-January and those in Europe in February-March, as well as the massive difference in severity. The pieces don’t fit together entirely neatly though, and questions – especially about why the Hubei outbreak was so localised and uniquely deadly in South East Asia, why there is evidence of a milder form of SARS-CoV-2 around the world in winter 2019-20, and the role of a laboratory – remain.

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ElSabio
4 years ago

An outbreak in Lombardy in northern Italy led the local government there to order a lockdown – the first after Hubei – in 10 towns covering around 50,000 people on February 21st 2020, seemingly a panic measure in response to the first death in the region.

Brought in by Chinese workers in the local leather industry.

https://www.altnewsmedia.net/news/corona-virus-exclusive-why-italy/

7941MHKB
7941MHKB
4 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

ElSabio
Don’t forget that Lombardy is the No.1 European terminus for the Chinese “Belt and Road” initiative.

Don’t forget the Mayor of Milan who told everyone “Go hug a Chinaman”.

Don’t forget the camera in Wuhan that miraculously caught a well dressed man walking down the street and suddenly crumpling to the ground- a tragedy unrepeated anywhere in the world. And the apartment building having the door welded shut whilst you can hear shouting in Chinese, apparently crying “It’s all fake!”.

Don’t forget the flights around the world when internal travel was strictly banned.

Don’t look at ‘cases’. Look at deaths and come back here and explain the official death toll figures.

Don’t forget the refusal from the beginning to share much of the detail.

The CCP has a hell of a lot of explaining to do.

ElSabio
4 years ago
Reply to  7941MHKB

Damn right!

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TSull
TSull
4 years ago
Reply to  7941MHKB

Lombardy is also one of the few parts of Europe with exceptionally high levels of particulate matter pollution and associated respiratory conditions during the winter. Wuhan is one of a few areas in China that has a similar problem in the winter months.

Margaret
4 years ago
Reply to  TSull

https://abruptearthchanges.com/2020/03/18/a-correlation-between-coronavirus-and-nitrogen-dioxide-in-air-pollution-in-italy/

Some of these maps show very high Nitrogen Dioxide levels in the Po valley during March 2020. Likewise you can see high levels in Spain over Madrid and Barcelona, both of which suffered badly.

crimsonpirate
4 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

you can also add Tehran to that list

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  TSull

And, didn’t the Lombardy break-out occur shortly after the Chinese workers returned from having visited China to celebrate their New Year with families?

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
4 years ago
Reply to  7941MHKB

And that they will never do

Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
4 years ago
Reply to  7941MHKB

All these people falling over in a hea somewhere in China (where? Homg Kong?) in front of a coveniently placed fully prepared camera crew?

I you may be interested in a Tiananmen Square tankman stopping the evil CCP military entering Tiananmen Square story that I can sell you.

Western media

Reality

Obscured events: Patient Zero on the Diamond Princess disembarked at Hong Kong and supposedly went to hospital there after testing positive for SARS-CoV-2

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC7388675/

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago

“Israel’s rise in Covid deaths is an important lesson for the U.K. on vaccines” 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/israels-rise-covid-deaths-important-lesson-uk-vaccines/
– There are several reasons why one of the world’s most highly vaccinated countries is now seeing a rise in Covid deaths, says (Gates-funded) Paul Nuki in the Telegraph. You guessed it, four-dose Israel is just not vaccinated enough. 

We need far more people at all our events here 
If we want the tyranny to end for good

Tuesday 8th February 2pm to 3pm
Yellow Boards By the Road  
A329 junction London Road & Oak Avenue 
Near Oakingham Belle pub
Wokingham RG40 1LH

Stand in the Park Sundays 10am  make friends, ignore the madness & keep sane 
Wokingham Howard Palmer Gardens Cockpit Path car park Sturges Rd RG40 2HD  
Henley Mills Meadows (at the bandstand) Henley-on-Thames RG9 1DS

Telegram Group 
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David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

Is there a plan to wipe Israel off the map?

Just asking. If so who would this please?

Osobowy
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

The original cabal of fake Jews?

lordsnooty
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

No, the maps are quite secure. Before maps are changed it is generally necessary to displace the indigenous population, which occurred before the maps of the levant were revised to show Israel. Much of the indigenous population were expelled to Arab neighbour countries , put in reserves like gaza, or otherwise disposed of. Hence today most Israel citizens are Jews. A sizable and growing community of other semitic and Christian races live there. The region is afflicted by serious tribal difficulties that show no sign of abating. These difficulties make Ulster look like the Garden of Eden. But the real garden of Eden was probably much closer to Israel, if it ever existed at all in reality….

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  lordsnooty

Very interesting but hardly news….you haven’t answered the question.

Before 1947 Israel was called “Palestine’ ( after the Philistines) a name given by the Roman Emperor Hadrian to the former Judea when the Romans “wiped it off the map”.

What is the motive that makes Israel the target of the most intensive experimental mRNA injection programme on earth?

Any ideas?

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  lordsnooty

You really don’t know what you’re talking about.

RW
RW
4 years ago

The Chinese government has reasons to downplay the actual effects of Sars-CoV2 to demonstrate thart its policies sucessfully contained it. In all other regions of the world, interested parties had reasons to exaggerate them grossly in order to justify copying the Chinese policies. In absence of actual information, that’s enough of an explanation for me why Sars-CoV2 was harmless in China and Terrible! (for interested party’s definition of that) everywhere else.

One should also keep in mind that Sars-CoV2 was especially Terrible! in so-called democracies whose current leaders to US woke pseudo-left strongly disapproved of, eg, India, Brazil and the USA under Trump. Both of the former vanished from COVID headlines overnight. In the USA and its globally dispersed client states, the virus is still Terrible! and set to remain so for as long as possible, preferably forever. England may have narrowly escaped this fate (although the fact that people are still pusing for vaccina assports in order to terrorize others into accepting COVID vaccines means this can’t be taken for certain yet).

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

How many African and Third World Leaders who opposed the “Covid PCR and vaccine Narrative “died suddenly”?

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Several, and the moment they were killed off, the bioweapon started to be shipped in.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Yes, but it’s all just another of those ‘coincidences’ that seem to suddenly be all the rage!

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Don’t forget Brandy Vaughn.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

People always die.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

Japan did not exaggerate and was largely unaffected. No crazy pressure to vaccinate there either.

7941MHKB
7941MHKB
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Borders still closed, though.

John
4 years ago

Chinese students returning for spring term across Europe and the US? Southern Hemisphere would still be a few weeks (March?) before their universities started their academic year.

RTSC
RTSC
4 years ago
Reply to  John

Chinese students returned to my small west country town after the October 2019 half-term. Two or three weeks later a “nasty little bug” started circulating in the town which I caught. I felt horrid for 3/4 days and had a cough which took at least 3 weeks to shift. I strongly suspect it was Covid. I’m unjabbed; I’ve lived life as close to normal throughout the last 2 years (shops, cafes, pubs, socialising as normal when possible) and I’ve been absolutely fine throughout.

NJH
NJH
4 years ago
Reply to  RTSC

Ha!! Me too.
Malvern?

John
4 years ago
Reply to  RTSC

Leicester (a university city) had similar presentations at the Urgent Care Centre where I worked, in fact I remember saying to patients there was a nasty virus going round.
I had the cough and change in taste in late October/mid November 2019, it resolved without any issue so I didn’t seek medical advice because I know what the management would have been.
It has always been my suspicion that an early variant of SARS-CoV-2 was present then.
Children presenting at the UCC would have been diagnosed with a viral upper respiratory tract infection, with absolutely no idea of the causative pathogen (it doesn’t change the management).
Could this explain why children were not seriously affected in spring 2020 onwards?

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  RTSC

Yes I had the same in December 2020. Plenty of Chinese Students around Cardiff .I had a dry cough lie never before and rough for around three weeks. Went back to the gym, was tired for a week or so during training then went back to normal.It gave me an ear ache when I had it, I was prescribed antibiotics.

NJH
NJH
4 years ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

December 2019?

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  NJH

Oh yeah…Well spotted.

VAX FREE IanC
4 years ago
Reply to  RTSC

Ditto
Bridgwater?

Aleajactaest
4 years ago

The question sound be, where did the “lockdown” idea arise?

I’m in my 6th decade and never, ever, anywhere, has “lockdown” happened.

This was gamed.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

China. Based on Chinese statistics, the WHO then declared it to being the way of managing epidemics. And then, all the governments who more-or-less believe that multilateral-everything is the way to paradise on earth started falling for it like pushed dominoes.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

Lockdowns originated in the Rockefeller Lockstep guide to Lockdowns many years before the controlled authoritarians in China deployed it.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

The question wasn’t people bouncing around theoretical ideas but about something which happened. And the origina lockdown happened in China etc.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

The original question was, “where did the Lockdowns idea arise”.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Qualified with

I’m in my 6th decade and never, ever, anywhere, has “lockdown” happened.

and it happened in China. Some advocates of complicated, funny theories always ignore.

Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

Also ignored is the coincidental cessation of CIA-orchestrated highly violent (eg petrol sprayed onto policement and ignited – similar to events in Tiananmen Square) regime change ops in Hong Kong supplemented by massed wester MSM hysteria.

January 2020: China’s coronavirus: We survive much worse every year, but the panic is the real danger

Around the time of the outbreak China was dealing with a regular outbreak of pneumonic plague – a really dangerous disease that requires proper BSL-4 style handling.

So lockdowns occurred in China after great MSM pressure, enabling the likes of Ferguson to say we wouldn’t have tried it here if not for the Chinese. How convenient. I’m sure such things never entered his delicate pure brain.

Out of all of this, qui bono? There have been a substantial number of new western Big Pharma billionaires, insiders milking PPE, Trick or Treat and dodgy PCR tests, Big Pharma gets massive windfall profits, free Phase III mass testing of experimental medical procedures, a vast culling of small businesses in favour of Big Commerce, imposition of ‘vaccine passports’ aka the long-wished-for western ausweiss bitte.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  Arfur Mo

Someone told me he lives in Mid Wales.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Dark Winter 2001. Lockstep 2010. Event 201 2019. That should be the first to investigate along with so called asymptotic transmission and the PCR test.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

Ferguson pushed the idea – after the Chinese gave a useful, clearly staged ‘demo’ to the world

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Ferguson and Imperial College receive hundreds of millions from vaccine profitteers. This whole thing is a festering nest of corruption.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Currently the whole country seems to be a festering nest of corruption for eyes which are wide-open now the scales have fallen from them!

This is a time for very serious refection for many on the real nature of the comfortable land they used to call ‘home’.

It appears to have been occupied by Aliens who wish us harm!

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

And adultery.

RickH
4 years ago

“the emergence of the pandemic in late 2019 and early 2020” 

What pandemic? It’s a funny pandemic that doesn’t reach official epidemic proportions in the community. (See the Oxford Evidence Based Medicine reports).

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

This is the problem. Most people, even the many many skeptics, are still in a trance, believing there has been a massive unusual epidemic.

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cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

It must be the only pandemic in history where the population of the world grew at the same increasing rate as before .

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

There is still no vaccine for stupid.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

WHO re-defined the word ‘pandemic’. Since then some have used original definition, others ‘adjusted’ definition. WHO re-defined many other words too, ‘vaccine’ included.
Since end-Jan 2020 I’ve also viewed whole thing as ‘what pandemic’ but knew that’s as per original definition.
Changed definitions caused uncertainty, thus panic and also disagreements, as well as making it difficult to gain-say ‘officialdom’.
It hasn’t helped clarity either that English (US) and English (UK) have always used the words infection, infectious, contagion and contagious slightly differently.
The different usages of the word ‘contagious’ caused muddle thus unnecessary panic among the public in general and, aided removal of cash from use.
WEFetal would have known the different usages of those words and that by using ‘contagious’ they were using the one likely to cause most muddle i.e. panic.

Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

The UK regime even removed the High Consequence Infectious Disease status from the disease when it entered the UK. The regime couldn’t have the NHS serfs whining about the dangers therey were exposed to.

“As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK.”

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid

“In the UK, a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) is defined according to the following criteria:

  • acute infectious disease
  • typically has a high case-fatality rate
  • may not have effective prophylaxis or treatment
  • often difficult to recognise and detect rapidly
  • ability to spread in the community and within healthcare settings
  • requires an enhanced individual, population and system response to ensure it is managed effectively, efficiently and safely”
mishmash
4 years ago

Bat soup is more believable than 5G?

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

5G is real.

mishmash
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

I know that! I meant people chose to believe the bat soup nonsense instead.

Catee
4 years ago

Sorry Will but if you believe this all started in late December 2019 because the Chinese say so you’ve learned nothing over the last 2 years.

PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago

Gamed in October 2019, in Event 201. John Hopkins Center for Health and Security, WEF and Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

In a nutshell!

cornubian
4 years ago

How to create a ‘pandemic’ out of thin air.

1.      Go to a place where there are traditionally high numbers of respiratory deaths – say Wuhan and take a sample from the most ill patients. Nearly everyone has some level of coronavirus in them so label this sample a new coronavirus and say symptoms are the same as any cold or flu. You now have a supposed new disease.
2.      Take the PCR test which the inventor said can “find anything in anybody”. Calibate it using an ‘in silico’ computer generated ‘genome’ based on run of the mill coronovirus strains, run it on everyone who goes into hospital (especially the terminally ill) and change the legal definition of “cause of death”. You just created mass deaths from your new disease.
3.      Start running the fake test on healthy people, multiple times a week. You just created millions of “asymptomatic cases”.
4.      Combine these three and, through waves of unrelenting propaganda, peer pressure and statistical manipulation, you just created your fake ‘pandemic’.

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BoJo The Great
BoJo The Great
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

I wish I could uptick this more.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  BoJo The Great

Copy and paste it everywhere you see controlled opposition debating supposed ‘covid deaths’, ‘covid cases’ and ‘covid vaccines’.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  BoJo The Great

We can tick you for saying that!

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

This is a question I’ve wrangled with for at least 18 months, namely is it possible to have created the entire pandemic with no novel virus at all? Factors counting against this are the well-known dissident scientists (Yeadon, McCullough, Malone, Zelenko etc.) who all seem convinced that the virus is indeed new, real and a problem. Then closer to home my sister-in-law who is an ICU nurse of 25 years who worked in Bradford on the BRI Covid ward throughout. She said early on that x-rays of Covid patients showed a very distinctive kind of lung damage she’d never seen before. Were it not for her account, I’d be quite inclined to think, as you say, that the whole thing could be created simply by deliberately concentrating normal respiratory virus patients into terrifying disease wards (and intubating them and giving them the wrong drugs), and fraudulently defining a computer generated gene sequence, and calling it a new coronavirus.
It’s a very confusing picture and I hope we get answers one day. I think all we can say for sure is that nothing the authorities have said about this crisis is true.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Nurses are not qualified to diagnose illness from x-ray images. Any message she passed to you would have come from someone more senior. Yeadon has questioned the existence of the virus many times. Malone has a vaccine to sell. There are lots of vested interests at work.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

I hear what you’re saying and I’m not trying to prove you wrong. I trust my SIL’s account though (should also say that she is bitterly opposed to all covid measures and won’t allow her kids to be vaccinated).

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

How can you trust someone who is not qualified to analyse x-ray images?

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

She‘a a senior nurse and had looked at the x-rays herself. She’s a pragmatic type and not easily swayed by the culture that exists within the NHS at large. This is anecdotal so it doesn’t negate your opinion but for me it ruled out my pet theory that there was actually no virus at all. Of course I wouldn’t put anything past or below the architects of this nightmare.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Bang out of order.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Given she must work in close proximity to those who are qualified to analyse x-ray images she could have overheard their comments.
I’m more concerned about those who queue up for jabs after being encouraged by successive Health Secretaries who know sod-all about health.

Apache
Apache
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

In Mar-Apr 2020 most people who suffered Covid recovered within a week. Those that didn’t usually then needed help. I was seeing very low SPO2 (70%) levels that didn’t respond to hi flow Oxygen in the normal manner. Since those early days I haven’t seen any SPO2 levels that low and any way they have responded to O2 suggesting that the lung damage has changed or disappeared.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  Apache

At the height of the supposed ‘first wave’, hospital acute bed occupancy was at record low levels. Staff were so bored many signed up for tik tok dance classes. What a joke this is and what fools we’ve been..

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David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

In the waiting area of a hospital I recently visited there were just 4 waiting patients in a waiting area that could seat, in theory, around 50 people (three seats out of four in a row were cordoned off for “social distancing” purposes -remember that Whitty wheeze?)

Makes you wonder what they all find to do all day now.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Ive got two downvotes for telling the truth.

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crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Not from me. I’m completely sympathetic to your point of view but conflicted by the mass of information I’ve assimilated over two years! I suppose we all need to remain open until we know for certain what’s happened.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

That’s the internet for you.

Apache
Apache
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Can’t talk for hospitals but it was certainly very slow in ambulance world. That was because people just weren’t calling. Not even the frequent callers.

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Nothing unusual in the global death rate. Pretty crap pandemic, if you ask me.

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crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Of that there is no doubt.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

After this experience…….Nurses are not qualified…..

Judy Watson
Judy Watson
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

I dispute this. If she has worked for this length of time in ICU she will have gained a very experienced eye in reading x rays. The same can be said about interpreting ECGs.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Judy Watson

Thanks and yes quite right, she’s a highly experienced intensive care nurse and certainly knows how to interpret an x-ray.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

What on earth is a very distinctive kind of lung damage?

I’m certainly a layman and obviously haven’t seen the x-rays but this sound like a very distinctively severed hand to me, ie, three redundant words attached to an unspecific term in order to add (content-free) emphasis. As that’s the usual modus operandi of Corona preachers, I’d be very wary with such a statement.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

Yeah she’s not a Corona preacher. She described it as white spots; this was almost two years ago and I can’t recall the details. I pressed her at the time because I was already highly suspicious but she had been extremely busy and watched a lot of people die (yes, really) so I didn’t want to be insensitive. Believe me I’ve looked for all sorts of ways to make the whole thing fake; I believe the pandemic itself is entirely confected, planned and a crime. I’m just saying there might be a virus involved!

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I think I’ve just been through my Omicron (albeit untested) and there’s decidedly a virus involved. It’s symptom profile is also somewhat different from both flu and cold. It’s just not generally worse than them.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

A thousand blessings! You have been touched by our new god! Glad it wasn’t terrible!

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

Yes I had Delta [whatever that means] in July 21 and it was quite odd. The loss of taste and smell thing was quite remarkable and unlike anything I’ve ever experienced, that lasted 2 weeks. I was at no point particularly ill but had achey legs and a bit of a fever for the first night.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

Perhaps that lung damage occurred in a different organ. How’s that for ‘distinctive’?

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

The PCR test has been used before to create a fake pandemic – as reported in the New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/health/22whoop.html

kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Sars-Cov-2 does exist, and was probably responsible for the first wave of infection in late 2019 and early 2020. It has a typical presentation of low blood oxygen saturation in the absence of lung inflammation and congestion. The virus has an unusual and direct effect on the haemoglobin molecule which prevents it from being able to absorb and carry oxygen. This is a unique feature of this engineered bat virus bioweapon, not a feature of a normal human coronavirus. SARS is severe acute respiratory syndrome – a viral respiratory disease of zoonotic origin caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus, the first identified strain of the SARS coronavirus species severe acute respiratory syndrome–related coronavirus. All the Sars coronaviruses were laboratory engineered from bat viruses collected from the wild. They are not normal human coronaviruses and needed to be artificially modified to attach to human cell receptors. COVID-19: Attacks the 1-beta Chain of Hemoglobin to Disrupt Respiratory Function and Escape Immunity  Hemoglobin that has been attacked by ORF3a may preserve the majority of its native structure but with decreased oxygen delivery function. By targeting hemoglobin and destroying heme, the ORF3a protein caused varying degrees of respiratory distress and coagulation symptoms in… Read more »

kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

Of course, most of the “cases” are not sick at all and do not have Sars-Cov-2. This is why many people believe the virus does not exist, because in reality very few people actually contracted the original engineered virus and are just sick with a minor respiratory infection, flu, or have pneumonia (as a normal pattern of disease in a population)
The X rays your SIL saw are real evidence of Sars-Cov-2 in the lungs. Yep!

kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

In the early phase of infection there were people in hospital with this new and frightening respiratory illness which eventually caused inflammation and clotting in the lungs – hence the typical X ray patterns. The “pandemic” was kick started with a bioweapon. Maybe the perpetrators hoped for more chaos and deaths, in the event the new virus only killed vulnerable people who were near the end. You would not have succeeded in the hoax if there were nothing there originally, most doctors believe in the pandemic because they saw and treated these unusual cases. I believe that the perpetrators were disappointed in the death statistics and had already planned to inflate them by conflating all kinds of deaths into the statistics. Genetically modified organisms are not very robust in the wild and usually lose their modifications as they mutate to a normal form, as this virus has done. Maybe the perpetrators hoped for a longer pandemic. They certainly were disappointed by omicron, even tho they bigged it up as much as possible. A more dangerous virus was tenable, as Ralph Baric had produced an antidote – a zinc containing drug, much like ivermectin, that the elite could use prophylactically. So… Read more »

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

“In the early phase of infection there were people in hospital with this new and frightening respiratory illness which eventually caused inflammation and clotting in the lungs”.

Where is the evidence for this?

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

Thanks. Yours is the most convincing explanation. It makes complete sense and aligns with observations. Plus you’re not trying to discredit my (admittedly second hand) account!

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

“Sars-Cov-2 does exist, and was probably responsible for the first wave of infection in late 2019 and early 2020.”

There might have been a nasty bug doing the rounds in winter 2019, but the deaths in March/April 2020 were largely iatrogenic induced.

The Dogman
The Dogman
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

And terrify the public so that they are in a panic. Put all elderly patients with respiratory illnesses on ventilators and treat them with Remdesivir both of which will kill most people.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  The Dogman

Many doctors warned that ventilators were killing patients….

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David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Indeed, the first warning came from Italy fairly early in 2020.

But they wanted the shocking pictures of the suffering didn’t they?

Once again it is World Media’s total responsibility for this panic pandemic that needs far more attention.

Gates funds world media to the tune of £34 million. Only six Giant Globalist Corporates now control all US MS media output.

GlassHalfFull
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

1) You are wrong. SARS-CoV-2 is a new virus and it’s unique gene sequence has been recorded over 7 million times.

2) You are wrong. Kary Mullis was misquoted. The PCR test is highly specific when done properly.

3) You are wrong. It is not a fake test. Lighthouse labs had poor quality control which produced many false positives during mass testing but PCR tests are accurate when done properly.

4) You are right that there were “waves of unrelenting propaganda, peer pressure and statistical manipulation”.

There has never been an article on The Lockdown Sceptic or The Daily Sceptic that the virus is not real because it is a serious website dealing in facts and not ridiculous theories.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

You are wrong. I have heard what Kary Mullis said several times in a full interview – he was not misquoted. Your defence of the now openly discredited and partially withdrawn fraudulent PCR test is absurd and disproved by dozens of scientific articles – including a recent report that the Drosten ‘test’ can detect up to 52 other listed dead viral fragments/ traces which it cannot distinguish from any potential fragment of SARS Covid-2. virus Kary Mullis made is absolutely clear that no PCR test can identify any “live” virus and was never designed to do so – he also called out Fauci and defied him to face him in debate! Test results produced up to 97% false positive for SARS Covid-2 and FOI requests show that many were run at 45 cycles of amplification by NHS trusts , which increased the number of ‘cases ‘ discovered, when the recommended amplification level is 25 cycles. A PCR test could never idetify a ‘case’ of Covid-19. The consequence was to claim massively inflated numbers of those ‘infected’ with the virus and so sustain all the ‘pandemic’ measures which without ‘testing would have collapsed . The real object of inflated Covid numbers… Read more »

GlassHalfFull
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

No, you are wrong.

I too have seen the video many times. The late great Kary Mullis has been misquoted and quoted out of context.

He unfortunately died just before SARS-CoV-2 was “invented”.

Yes he did say that the PCR test cannot tell if a virus is infectious or not but scientists have always known this and that is why cell culture is needed to determine if the positive result is live and infectious or dead virus particles.

Yes he did say that the PCR can test for anything but he was referring to HIV/AIDS patients riddled with a variety of viruses.

The PCR can test for anything you program into it. The unique partial sequence used to detect SARS-CoV-2 in the RT-PCR test is CCAGGTGGWACRTCATCMGGTGATGC

Kary Mullis was not going to rubbish the test he invented for which he won the Nobel Prize.

The PCR test is still a highly accurate tool (when done properly) which has been unfairly maligned because of the way politicians have used it to further their agenda.

GlassHalfFull
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

You keep saying that “a recent report that the Drosten ‘test’ can detect up to 52 other listed dead viral fragments/ traces which it cannot distinguish from any potential fragment of SARS Covid-2. virus”.

I keep asking you to provide a link to that report but you still haven’t.

GlassHalfFull
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

The Corman-Drosten paper was criticised by a number of “life scientists” who asked Eurosurvellance to review it.

Eurosurveillance sent it to 5 independent experts who dismissed the criticism on all counts.

eastender53
4 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

SARS-Cov2 is not a ‘new virus’. Patents on its key elements date back to 2008. It has never been isolated anywhere in the historically accepted manner.

The PCR test process is indeed effective, but this test was never designed as a diagnostic tool. In fact the boxes clearly state this. On top of that the ‘markers’ used were created by Drosten from parts of a sequence supplied by China. He made up the rest himself.

GlassHalfFull
4 years ago
Reply to  eastender53

Total rubbish.

Anyone who keeps repeating the mantra “it has never been isolated” has no understanding of modern virology.

The PCR test tests for fragments of a virus and not whether the virus is alive or not so it has always been known that it cannot tell whether the person is infectious or not.

If the test is done properly a positive result means the person has been exposed to the virus within the last 12 weeks but it again has always been known that it cannot diagnose Covid-19.

The unique partial sequence used to detect SARS-CoV-2 in the RT-PCR test is CCAGGTGGWACRTCATCMGGTGATGC which is a segment of the 29,903 base pairs.

Due to the panic in the early days the gene sequence was partially taken and then computer enhanced.

However, the virus has now been whole gene sequenced over 7 million times and the “whole gene sequence” is exactly the same as the initial computer completed gene sequence.

This shows Drosten and all other virologists were correct and are highly skilled at what they do.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

The PCR test cannot distinguish between fake covid or a common cold. Its an entirely bogus test deployed solely to inflate supposed ‘covid deaths’ and ‘covid cases’. https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n208/rr-3

GlassHalfFull
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

You keep quoting that article in the BMJ which is a letter from a statistician stating that some labs are not doing the PCR test properly.

No where in your link do they complain about the PCR test itself or the Corman-Drosten protocol.

If a garage doesn’t do a MOT test correctly it doesn’t mean the MOT test is at fault, it means a garage is not doing the test correctly and THEY are at fault.

Similarly the BMJ article is saying that some labs are testing for one gene only and not the two or more as advised by Drosten and the WHO and it is the labs that are at fault.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

They say it can pick up dead viruses after 12 weeks, But does it know the difference between the common cold (coronaviruses) and SARS COV 2, or original SARS that is everywhere?

A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago

, a nastier variant emerged in Italy

it was no different, the average age of death there as reported at the time was 84 with multiple comorbidities.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

People who were dying anyway were branded by the hoaxters as dying from an ‘in silico’ disease that existed only on a computers hardware.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

Highest level of air pollution in Italy over area concerned – many older men are heavy smokers – seasonal flu ‘disappeared’ and ventilators recommended by the Chinese ….killed … as many very concerned younger Hospital Clinical staff observed at the time!

7941MHKB
7941MHKB
4 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

It certainly had one well reported difference, later much emulated.
The level of care home deaths from neglect.

ElSabio
4 years ago

Who is really responsible for the virus….

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Osobowy
4 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

Who’s the down voter?

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Osobowy

Gates

BoJo The Great
BoJo The Great
4 years ago

How were the initial six patients in China diagnosed? Not PCR (not yet unprofessionally applied).
The Italian patients would have likely been identified by over eager, panicky, pressured doctors.
This is the issue….how were people diagnosed as having a novel virus??
If China could identify a brand new virus so quickly, it’s likely this was due to data stored in the Wuhan Institute….?? It’s all very odd.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  BoJo The Great

They were ‘diagnosed’ as having covid by two sorts of doctors – those ideologically committed to the regimes objectives and those pressurised to lie on death registration forms by their captured governing bodies.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Schwab’s small window of opportunity had arrived !

Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
4 years ago
Reply to  BoJo The Great

The Chinese published their protocol for confirming a diagnosis in their symptomatic hospitalised patients. It involved two PCR tests taken two weeks apart, along with a chest x-ray.

In the UK we tested healthy asymptomatic people with just one PCR test.

One seems a plausible technique for confirming the diagnosis of a respitatory disease. And the other is a steaming pile of dog doo.

crisisgarden
4 years ago

Thank you will for putting together this timeline, the details of which will be so crucial to future criminal investigations. The elephant in the room (well, one of several) is the absence of further deadly outbreaks across other Chinese cities. This means one of two things as far as I can tell (and neither are good for the official narrative) either a high level of prior immunity from SARS or, more likely, the relatively high death rates in Western countries were the result of policies and protocols designed to maximise death and fraudulently inflate the recorded number of deaths.
Ask a typical Covidian Guardian reader how China escaped a serious epidemic (I have) and you’ll get a brilliantly stupid and closet xenophobic answer: We can’t really trust Chinese reports. Apart from the ones that kickstarted the whole pandemic of course 🤦‍♂️

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

The one option Will fails to explore is the mass of evidence pointing to the whole thing being a hoax from start to finish.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

A ‘hoax’ with a purpose…..the Experimental Gene Therapy Roll Out across the Lab Rat World!

“It’s not the virus you need to watch , it’s the vax!”

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Oh I’m watching that vax, believe.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Outbreaks of deaths within 28 days of a positive PCR test? That’s as easy to escape from as to manufacture.

Somewhat generalizing my other comment: Governments committed to Zero COVID have an interest in demonstrating that their policies work. Zero COVID and – more generally – pandemic advocates in countries where Zero COVID hasn’t been adopted yet have an interest in demonstrating that the situation is Terrible! and that something must be done about this.

The objective part of the news from Italy in early 2020 never seemed particularly serious or even newsworthy to me.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

While it’s true that Chinese stats are highly dubious, it’s also true that if the virus had actually been as dangerous as the Covidians claim then even the CCP wouldn’t have been able to cover up the death stats.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Meanwhile, what about the vax?

cornubian
4 years ago

It looks like Will is taking the regimes recorded ‘covid’ deaths as being actual deaths from ‘covid’ when every man and his dog knows they are nothing of the sort. Just reflect for a moment at what really happened during the supposed ‘first wave’.

The excess deaths in March 2020 arose from care homes being deliberately seeded with very ill hospital patients; care home staff fleeing their positions and residents dying from neglect, dehydration and in some cases starvation; patients being wrongly but on ventilators that blew their lungs out; given Midazolam which induced respiratory disease symptoms; wholesale community DNRs; cancelled medical treatments for people in critical condition and others vulnerable people being too frightened to seek treatment.

Under the newly implemented WHO death registration guidance, which was later embellished with the fake PCR testing procedures, most of these deaths were falsely attributed to ‘covid’.

This genocide has been falsely labelled “the first wave”.

We are getting to the stage now with the covid lies where professional wresting was when it was finally acknowledged that the whole thing was staged.

Fans simply didnt care and carried on watching it as if it were real.

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ElSabio
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Can’t argue with the comment of the day.

The excess deaths in March 2020 arose from care homes being deliberately seeded with very ill hospital patients; care home staff fleeing their positions and residents dying from neglect, dehydration and in some cases starvation; patients being wrongly but on ventilators that blew their lungs out; given Midazolam which induced respiratory disease symptoms; wholesale community DNRs; cancelled medical treatments for people in critical condition and others vulnerable people being too frightened to seek treatment.

Have a star.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

Looks like the “Case for the Prosecution” – we await the verdict with anticipation!

Has Hancock’s passport been confiscated I wonder?

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Sorry Cornubian, I wrote my comments before reading yours. I agree totally that there was a mass copying of the Italian tactics without which there would have been no pandemic, epidemic or anything else out of the ordinary. The gross deaths were inflated by killing those most at risk because they hadn’t died in the mild winter before, or were going to die over the next year or so. And Lombardy was a perfect place to kick that process off. China is a ‘blind’ , talk of leaks are a ‘blind’. There is a manipulated coronavirus, but its the RT-PCR test by Drosten that has made it a ‘killer’.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Thats right. Lombardy is like Wuhan in that it has a long history of people dying from respiratory disease and hence the perfect locations to change cause of death from flu/pneumonia to something with a new name, but exacly the same symptoms and call it a pandemic. Most people would never be aware of the fact that these locations always see high levels of deaths from respiratory disease.

Osobowy
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Before, when Italy locked down, the whole world was in a panic, or so it seemed. We the citizens were, but for the lockdown wars, this was all pre-planned.

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago

Although I believe there are many anomalies and uncertainties about the official narratives – it does actually look as if the Chinese were interested in trying to treat the symptoms of the disease before it was too late while other countries and the WHO tried to suppress the emergence of effective treatments to facilitate the development of vaccines, which have been a lot worse than useless. The CCP are unlovely but we also have to consider the sabotaging of effective treatments for racketeering purposes in Western countries.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

The Chinese developed a gain of function SARS Covid virus in a low security lab funded with US money arranged and approved by Dr Fauci after its development was halted in the US by the Obama Government as being ” too dangerous”. Surely this is now established fact?

A certain Mr Daszac has explained exactly what was done.

Catee
4 years ago

If the Chinese were so set on doing ‘the right thing’ why did they put out those false vids of people dying in the streets?

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Indeed. Cui bono? strongly suggests that they wanted to weaken and wound the West brutally by faking that catastrophic lockdowns might have an effect.
But even they couldn’t fathom that we’d still be shooting ourselves in the foot after the intial panic.
We just fell for their ruse, and continue to do so.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

The same people that control the US, UK et al also control China. China was the test bed for their Problem/Reaction/Solution roll out.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Those outside China who think they control China are making a very big mistake.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Probably paid for by the BBC.

Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Why do you assume the CCP regime put out the videos?

Before covid, there was a CIA-orchestrated regime change operation in Hong Kong. The leaders of the regime change op were filmed meeting with US diplomats. One of the leaders conveniently received a place at Harvard just before covid took off.

twinkytwonk
4 years ago

I’ve never seen it mentioned anywhere but protests were growing in China and there was little the government could do to stop them and then…. Bugger me… A deadly virus appears and all protests come to a halt

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago

It all seems so long ago now, but I seem to recall the Chinese saying, early in 2020, that they were treating patients intravenously with high levels of vitamin C and D (presumably calcifediol).

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

They have always known what to do – a have the Authorities in the west who banned successful ivermectin which would have killed their planned vaccine roll-out..

Nigel Sherratt
4 years ago

A paper by doctors at the hospital in Lombardy where it all started described the virus as highly transmissible but not particularly virulent. Panic, mismanagement, misdiagnosis, mistreatment and perverse incentives seem to have been at the core of the catastrophe.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Nigel Sherratt

Don’t forget the deliberate seeding if the panic and the vested interest of Billionaires the WEF and Pharma companies.

(See swine flu scamdemic stopped by Wolfgang Woodarg – who also called foul on the Covid scam but was silenced by the sold-out MSM).

This has been a PCR test Mass Media pseudo pandemic designed to create an ‘opportunity’.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago

Problem with this Will, please if you could explain why Drosten used coding from Wuhan for the Rt-PCR tests for SARS2 and then it was ‘found in Italy’ if the Italian variant was so different to the Wuhan one? How can the coding from something mild like omicron suddenly be used to test for something much more dangerous like Alpha? Italy isn’t really a Democracy, it hasn’t had an elected govt for some time. Its run by technocrats, ideally suited to be the regime that calls for lockdowns in the West as a result of ‘deaths’. Lombardy has by far the highest number of deaths each year of any Italian region. Mainly because the elderly population die of complications from workplace illnesses, its often respiratory diseases that see them off. In the early months of 2020, Italy did what the UK copied, it moved sick old people from hospitals to care homes, and they died and infected loads more who died. This appalling cynical move was copied not only in the UK but in the US, particularly NY and surrounding States, France, Spain, and even Sweden ( who at least have apologised for it since). Take these deaths out of… Read more »

Paul_Somerset
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Yes. You don’t need a ‘variant’ to explain the extra lethality in Europe in spring 2020. Even just telling frail people to avoid the sun at our latitudes at the precise time of year when their vitamin D levels are at their lowest would do the trick. And the effects of that on people’s health are going to go on into 2021, causing future ‘variants’ to appear more lethal too.

Drew63
Drew63
4 years ago

Our true enemy has not yet shown his face.

Uh… sorry, but – No.

Covid-19 didn’t come out of a McDonalds in Chicago or a curry wurst shop in Berlin. It came out of China. Like all such zoonotic diseases do. Because of a combination of abominable food-safety protocols, and a cultural affinity for eating weird-ass crap like pangolins and bats.

Let’s just leave it at that, before I say something that will get me in trouble.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

In trouble with whom? President Xi?

stewart
4 years ago

Isn’t the whole thing just like one big magic trick?

Was there really such a huge and unusual spike in deaths or did we just have the media screaming that there was, creating the illusion in everyone’s mind that we were in the midst of a “pandemic”?

In the worst of places all cause mortality in 2020 rose by around 5% (following a notable dip the previous year). In others there was a tiny rise or no rise at all. 2021 has been a completely normal year.

If it weren’t for the media, politicians and health officials telling everyone there is a massive health crisis, we would have gotten on with our lives, we would have seen some people get a nasty flu, a few more old people than usual pass away and other than that it would have been just another ordinary year.

Osobowy
4 years ago

Education is denied
Families on the divide
Mental Health has died
You force us to take a side

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Osobowy
4 years ago

Farmers stand with truckers!

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Osobowy
4 years ago

This is the real virus threatening Canada

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Osobowy
4 years ago

Trudeau is the virus
The media is the variant
Freedom over fear

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Osobowy
4 years ago

All happening now

amanuensis
4 years ago

Well, we’ll not know for sure what happened in the UK because so much of the paperwork surrounding decisions etc has been locked away under the ’30 years rule’.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

We don’t need any more evidence. We already have enough to sink the SS Hoax multiple times over. But as we have learned, evidence and facts dont matter when you control the government, media, administrative system, judiciary, police and army.

4PureBlood
4PureBlood
4 years ago

My 75 year old aunt texted me last night to tell me she and my uncle tested positive for Covid. I drove to their house at 12:30 AM and dropped off Ivermectin pills, HCQ, zinc, and Quercetin. She told me today her fever came down and that I may have saved her life. Uncle is feeling great. This is considered a negative outcome by the cabal. They would prefer my family dead. Their evil is no longer a theory and very much a reality. You can get your ivm by visiting https://ivmpharmacy.com

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  4PureBlood

The outrageous ban this Government and its Medical Advisors have imposed on safe , effective and cheap ivermectin use in early onset Covid has obviously led directly to unnecessary deaths.

I do hope the Police are taking very seriously their current live investigations into the mounting number of testimonials from victims regarding the range of serious Covid related crimes alleged to have taken place … apparently the volume of evidence is overwhelming the small number of Officers allocated to the investigation.

Perhaps a few could be spared from the ‘Partygate’ fiasco…..no doubt Ms D*ck has her priorities …but this real scandal will not be going away any time soon!