“Show Us the Data”: High Court Demands Austrian Government Justify COVID-19 Restrictions
Austria’s powerful Constitutional Court has demanded detailed data from the Government Health Ministry justifying the coronavirus response. News.com.au has the story.
The 14-member court issued 10 sets of questions to the Health Ministry on January 26th in order to prepare for a “possible oral hearing” into a number of complaints it has received against Austria’s COVID-19 measures.
The Health Ministry has until February 18th to respond.
Austria plans to ease some restrictions from Tuesday as its nationwide vaccine mandate, the first in Europe, comes into effect.
But in order to justify his Government’s heavy-handed rules, the court has asked Health Minister Wolfgang Mückstein to provide data across a broad range of topics including hospitalisations and deaths ‘with’ as opposed to ‘from’ COVID-19, the efficacy of masks and vaccines, and evidence supporting the now-rescinded ‘lockdown for the unvaccinated’.
“The ‘lockdown for the unvaccinated’ is likely to be based, among other things, on the consideration that persons without Covid vaccination have a higher risk of hospitalisation than vaccinated persons, which is likely to entail a higher risk for the healthcare system,” the court wrote.
“What is the effect of the ‘lockdown for the unvaccinated on the hospital burden, expressed in percentages?”
The court asked for information on which virus variants were associated with these numbers, a breakdown by age cohort, and for “percentage allocation” outlining where infections occurred, such as family, work, shopping or leisure activities.
Another question asked, “By what factor does wearing an FFP2 mask indoors or outdoors reduce the risk of infection or transmission?”
A number of other questions related to vaccines, with the court requesting data on their efficacy in reducing severe illness, preventing transmission, and the durability of protection.
“By what factor does Covid vaccination reduce the risk of severe disease?” the court wrote.
“In media reports, there was talk of up to 95%. Now, the general risk of dying from Covid-19 (not differentiated by age and health status) currently appears to be 0.1516%.
“What does a stated vaccination efficacy of, for example, 95% refer to? What do absolute and relative risk reduction mean in this context?”
The letter also requested the Covid-related hospitalisation risk over a one-year period for an unvaccinated 25-year-old compared with a double-vaccinated 25-year-old, and the same for a 65-year-old.
It concluded with a question about Austria’s excess mortality statistics.
In December, the Der Standard newspaper reported that there were one-third fewer COVID-19 deaths in 2021 compared with the previous year, but that weekly excess mortality was higher.
“Is this true?” the letter asked. “If so, what was the total excess mortality in 2021 that could not be explained by COVID-19 deaths, and what is the explanation for this excess mortality?”
Austria has seen record high case numbers in recent days, fuelled by the Omicron variant.
Good to see a high court taking a detailed interest in these technical questions, unlike our own largely supine and deferential judiciary. Also good to see an interest in the unexplained wave of non-Covid excess deaths this winter. The Government’s response will be interesting, as will the court’s ruling.
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I think the response from the Austrian government’s Health Ministry will be “Befehl ist Befehl.” Just watch.
Jawohl
Supplemented with “impfen macht frei”?
The data baby is malleable and can disappear in an instant.You have to understand what they were doing – they were measuring responses and this situation suited their objectives rather well and still does. Big countries with small populations – attack more and find the limit. In terms of money it has already gone forever given the wealth transfer to the one percent. In a sense they got away with it. My feeling is that they will not get away with the next few months. Not much you can say to ameliorate a mass die off it will be like the plagues of Egypt.
Yes. The Covid scam was brought to us by globalist depopulators who wanted to make a killing on the way to carrying out mass genocide. The money’s been rolling in for months, but now the scam’s cracks are beginning to show, even in God forsaken Austria. Let’s hope those judges throw out the government’s oppressive nonsense.
The didn’t want to see it because they were in a state of deep fear. Does this warrant condemnation, partial forgiveness or complete forgiveness. You might despise a coward but you would still protect him if he was in trouble. On the other hand their cowardice has led to the slaughter of uncountable numbers.
I can forgive someone cajoled into being injected. I somewhat respect the double jabbed who refused a booster once they realized things were not as advertised.
However, the majority of those around me gave the matter virtually no thought. Most people in my circle got injected so they could book a holiday. I strongly suspect some had their teenage kids jabbed for the same reason, so as not to upset travel plans.
It is that latter group that worry me. Zero critical thought.
I know what you mean. Their main concern was material hedonistic satisfaction. For those people I have no love or sympathy. And I know very well where they will end up. At least if nothing else this was a litmus test – you found out who the true mensches were. People who don’t have anything in particular in common but nonetheless we felt it was out duty as human beings to examine the reality. Many will disappear unfortunately. Hopefully those of us who will be left behind will come up with something better.
At least the beaches will be nice and quiet 😉
It’s hard, though, when it concerns people you’ve known all your life – close friends with whom you’ve shared so much and who have become abusive and accusatory when hearing you’ve refused vaccination. Apparently I am a moron for remaining unjabbed (I didn’t mention I was unmasked as well, she would have been apoplexic).
When you’ve been close to someone for 60 years you think you know them, then this unexpectedly happens and you realise that perhaps you didn’t know them at all. I greatly miss my friend, and knowing that she is not the person i thought she was I went through a kind of grieving process, albeit mixed with anger.
I know people who have had their kids jabbed – so that they could ‘participate in normal life’ – go to birthday parties, scouts, football practice…. knowing their plans there was no way I could share with them my concerns and what I knew. It is their decision. I worry about their futures.
I know people who’ve done more research and put more thought into buying a new kitchen appliance or steam cleaner than a novel medical treatment that they’d be putting into their or their kid’s bodies. They’re so thorough when they read reams and reams of reviews on Amazon! It’s as fucked up as it is scandalous.
It comes down to this now. Get jabbed and get a ‘Vaxx Pass’ so you can travel to other countries.
If you don’t want to travel to other countries don’t get jabbed. You won’t have a valid ‘Vaxx Pass’.
*Vaxx Passes’ are now in use every minute of every hour of every day, for travel.
It’s wrong, but there you are. ‘The lawyers’ of your imagination have not prevented this from happening, ‘Nuremburg 2’ hasn’t been slotted into any court appointments yet.
And with jab harming will continue for years to come.
My take is that this pandemic has taken them as far as it can take them. They are happy to bank the numbers vaccinated to date as enough to make the vaxx pass a way of life and might regroup for another crack it by releasing another virus.
It is the only way I can view the country by country unwinding almost in lockstep, as if the order has come from a bunker “abort abort abort” because Omicron is now so weak that if they continue it risks exposing the fraud.
It is astounding that it is a novelty to see a judiciary asking these forensic questions, which should be the nub of any argument.The common test of ‘reasonableness’ and proportionality should be at the heart of any judgement, but hasn’t been so.
Good point. We’ve become so inured to the notion of an establishment or self-appointed elite we are shocked when people do their jobs.
Maybe that’s the real lesson of the last two years. Our Majesty’s opposition opposed nothing. In most votes about five percent of MPs questioned or opposed the government’s narrative.
The few media types like Laurence Fox asking fairly normal questions about what is going on were seen as unhinged lunatics.
What a world.
These are the sort of questions that Austria’s (and everyone elses) elected representatives should have been asking before inflicting their madness on the rest of us.
more than asking!
Showing that it’s HEAVILY in favour, which of course these immune system burning clot shots are not.
All those questions should be noted by someone on our side and developments monitored with a view to the inquiry the UK government has promised will be held to ascertain what was done in the UK.
You can bet your bottom dollar that someone on the inside will be watching very closely to see what the Austrian government feeds into that hearing.
Well, let’s be optimistic for once and hope for the Covid lockdown tyranny this applies:
“Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”
How many times is this line going to be trotted out on here?
So why the sudden interest, they seem to be running to put out a fire that has already been put out the night before. And why did the UK court reject Simon Dolan’s challenge twice!
Easy answer to your question : they were following orders, as were courts everywhere in all countries.
Very few countries courts, with the exception of Spain and Portugal that I know of [perhaps others can add others], were prepared to challenge the narrative.
This is a story to follow… the questions are unanswerable in an honest and open fashion – doubtless they would have obfuscated to their hearts content but it seems the old absolute vs relative risk reduction trick is out of their arsenal… keen to see how it will be pulled apart by the so called fringe minority online who are so much better with data than the elites.
I wonder how The Health Ministry will respond? Not difficult to predict is it? Why is the Court not asking for an independent review from a range of experts not cherry-picked by Government?
They test for the flu since they’ve never isolated Covid-19
Here’s a thread on a new study on the consequences of these draconian policies. It’s bleeding obvious to most of us here, but hopefully this paper might get more to listen in..
https://twitter.com/kevinbardosh/status/1488350691328290822?s=21
The paper is here…
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4022798
It might help convince some lefties, seems to be speaking their language:
We need to refocus on non-discriminatory, trust-based public health policy grounded in equity, social justice & bioethics.
As long as it doesn’t detract from the fight to combat transphobia, comrade. Or is it now internalized white supremacy? I can’t keep up.
You better watch your pronouns!
I think creative pronouns should be indulged. It is handy to know when you are dealing with the unhinged.
Given they do no good then they must cause more harm.
If you think that you might just be able to survive with the money and connections that you have then you do not enter into the entirety of this situation. The very fundaments will be shaken. Two contradictory truths will hold true at once – that it will become impossible to be an honest man and survive;at the same time we will come come to understand that a man’s only true currency is his word. Living in truth as Vaclav Havel put it.
Does anybody seriously believe that the Austrian government wont be capable of fudging the answer to every one of these questions?
I think of it as a mental physiological one. I have known a couple of people who took the mark and they are more angry and irritable than ever with a diminished capacity for beauty and morality. This is a stab in the heart of the evoulution of the human spirit we should never forget that. The mystery schools warned about this period from 2020-2040 and the dangers of us falling into the eighth sphere.I am more confident than ever that we will overcome this.
Why do they not appear to have asked for a detailed analysis of risks from the jabs particularly for the under 65s?
Because the jab law (ie compulsion) hasn’t come into force and most actions / restrictions covered here came before. A jab action would require and deserve a case of its own
We are a rather jaded population. For example it is difficult to imagine those holy roller American preachers gaining traction over here because we would just take the piss. On the other hand millions of boomers listen to the BBC like it is God. There is still a spirit left in this country beyond all that and we need to find that among ourselves.
Most revolutions are driven by tiny numbers, supported by a larger number who broadly agree. The active component is often small.
I think we are there. I suspect the issue is people don’t publicly see or hear much dissention, even though they’d probably agree with dissenting voices.
There is a reason they obsess over the narrative and expend colossal sums to control it. It is also why one really first-rate meme taking the piss works so well. Well enough they’ve begun legislating against them in Scotland. All that harmful hate speech and misinformation has to be eradicated.
Happy to oblige….
You are now banned from the Northern Wastelands 🤡
Nadim Zahawi and Liz Truss, both, I would imagine triple jabbed, and both have caught covid and are self isolating.
Jabs don’t seem to do too much of anything positive for anyone.
Yes they both are, as stated in their strangely identically worded tweets. The way they just do not get the irony of their predicament is distinctly creepy, in a very cult-like manner. Same as Turdeau. It’s like, “Today I tested positive for Covid but at least I’m triple jabbed so I can just work from home. Stay safe and be sure to get your vaccinations.” The lift isn’t going to the top floor, I’m telling you! Has no rational person actually confronted them yet with the rather obvious challenge, “If 3 jabs aren’t going to stop you getting Covid then WTF is the point?”
https://headtopics.com/uk/liz-truss-and-nadhim-zahawi-test-positive-for-covid-19-just-hours-apart-23799652
‘Imagining’ is not the same as ‘knowing’.
“Show us the data” sums up the male “sciency” willy-waving criticism of the powers that be.
Another tack needs to be taken.
First of all the court aren’t asking for a case to be made about reasonableness – it’s narrowly asking for the data. Unless the whole report here is wrong. So it’s an appropriate headline.
Secondly I don’t feel Billy-big-balled about authority at the moment, with various precautionary principles applied unreasonably to me and those I know after the last two years. I feel quite disempowered and emasculated. I’m sure that women feel dehumanised to. And so we fight, and so I don’t think most of the writers here feel powerful. We’ve almost been forced to beg.
I recognise the government could fudge it but I’m hopeful the judiciary will scrutinise it and award the other way if they’ve not put the effort in.
Close to ideally would be peer reviewed studies (on masks for example) with expert witnesses able to challenge with other peer reviews.
I recognise for example that peer review may well not be available for many things including masks (someone point me to one if there are) and non peer reviewed studies being presented will only play into the claimant’s hands if they’re any good
Stop getting hung up on ‘peer review’. Peer review is pal review, which is open to club members only. Vast majority of the worlds scientific discoveries were made by people who did not go through any peer review process.
Good point and I’ll take it on board and I suspect as much, and I’ll look into it further.
Nonetheless it’s beside the point that I made, which was lack of peer review matters to the court and would help, as well as expert take downs of peer reviews nattering to the court too.
Don’t do any sport or any major physical actvity ever again. Our enemies know very well the extent of the injury. A thousand percent increase in neurological disease amongst fit service people. Trust me you are already dead. A thousand percent increase in neurological injuries means complete collapse of military systems.
Percentages can be tricky, 1>10 for example is bad, but not world ending.
I still wouldn’t take the gunk but what are the totals?
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You have to put it all into the equation aside from the military. We are not moving into a position of strength whichever way you slice it. A vaccine injured 18 year old costs about 5 million for care until the end of their life. That is a small matter but the general principle prevails. We will be so encumbered with injury that we will not even be able to cope with that. Warfare requires serious appraisal of the situation. Very few people want to be adults anymore and stare the cold hard truth in the face.
If your scenario is true, and we see mass injury, I can think of no faster method of making the masses into the adults you claim they don’t want to be. A very hard dose of reality indeed.
But I concede the point and I too despair when I see even people in their 40s and 50s call upon the government to guarantee everything from the right to a house to everlasting happiness.
Wait a second, does it mean I should abandon bodyweight training? It’s been going quite well pumping out those handstands and other such, but of course it’s all not worth it if my death is imminent. Of course, I will quit according to your expert advice.
Wow. The right questions are being asked. And in Hitlerland, if all places.
I am agog.
Looks like Whoopi Goldberg has given you a downtick, Annie!
Probably from Mark Drakeford.
The government’s response: “Good luck collecting your pensions, Justices….”
Point taken, but probably unlikely.
More likely hints of incriminating photos.
As the biggest lie in history crumbles and many people begin to awaken from the insidious government induced psy-ops coma, the globocap damage limit exercise begins…As a minority are aware, justice systems across the west have been captured, bought and paid for, they had to be too facilitate this evil!
The questions that will be asked of the Neo-Nazi Austrian government in a court of law, are the questions that should have been posed at the outset of this contrived NWO malevolance. It’s a start, if it happens at all, but don’t be fooled into thinking this is the begging of the end…All the pillars of state are captured, it will take the biggest popular uprising in history to rid ourselves of the globalist cockroaches that want to turn us into neo-feaudal slaves. People need to hang and fortunes need to be seized, the politics of greed, along with it’s practitioners needs to be eviscerated and made whole again in the image of Thomas Paine…
Trudeau must watch …
https://gettr.com/post/prscc7dcca
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/pfizer-fda-delay-release-covid-vaccine-safety-data/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=a8f61a2e-aeeb-4990-945a-306a541172be
Lawyers for PHMPT, in a brief submitted Jan. 25 to the court, asked Pittman to reject Pfizer’s motion and requested the judge ask Pfizer to clarify how, exactly, its intervention would help expedite the release of the documents, arguing that Pfizer:
“… provides no reason why it needs to intervene in this matter to render that purported assistance. Nor can Plaintiff discern why Pfizer needs to intervene in this matter to assist the FDA with expediting release of the requested documents—it can render this assistance without intervening.”
PHMPT, a group of more than 30 medical and public health professionals and scientists from institutions such as Harvard, Yale, and UCLA, in September 2021 filed a lawsuit against the FDA when the agency denied its original FOIA request.
In that request, PHMPT asked the FDA to release “all data and information for the Pfizer vaccine,” including safety and effectiveness data, adverse reaction reports, and a list of active and inactive ingredients.
I would like to put up a link to a useful substack – Inside Pharma, by Hedley Rees.
https://hedleyrees.substack.com/
He has helped PJH Law with the legal letter to the MHRA.
His background is in pharma supply chain matters and he queries the manufacturing processes for these mRNA products.
https://hedleyrees.substack.com/p/broadcaster-sonia-poulton-interviews
Announcement: Start of the Grand Jury Proceeding
First date: Feb. 05, 2022
In serious criminal cases in the U.S., a so-called grand jury is presented with the evidence at hand to convince them that this evidence is sufficient to bring public charges against the defendants.
We are adopting this model to prove to the public, with the help of real witnesses, lawyers, a judge and experts from around the world, that we are dealing with crimes against humanity that span the globe.
The goal is a coherent presentation of all the facts gathered to date, and thus to convince the populations of all countries that resistance here is not only possible, but required of every individual.
See more in the announcement video.
Stay up to date:
@CoronaInvestigativeCommittee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3Zep72tubY
Good scientific analysis of the test swabs with interesting photos.
Werner Bergholz, former professor of electronic engineering and consultant for the German parlament, presents laboratory results from examining test swabs and discusses the finding of ethylene oxide in that context.
Chances are the government will just fabricate some numbers, and the court will respond “oh yeah, sounds right, if the Science says so, who are we to question… that’s just what we wanted to know, now you have the official approval of the Law, kthxbye”.
Reuters reporting Japan is at 1% of its COVID peak cases and falling. India is at 3% of its peak and falling. What did these countries do? Ditch vaccine mandates for ivermectin. Since April 28, India medical officials started providing hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin to its massive population. As India is the major pharmaceutical manufacturer in the world, they were ready for this massive drug distribution. MIRACULOUSLY!, COVID cases have plummeted quickly since then. Meanwhile, all “first world” countries in Europe are reporting a rise in cases. Get your ivermectin before it is too late! https://ivmpharmacy.com
Providing the data will be easy. Another job for Ferguson and Whitty.
Yet another knighthood on its way through the system?
Well, should not hope for much. Here a view from Austria where I am (unfortunately) living… mainstream media have already attacked the Constitutional Court, main reason being: the question list was submitted by one judge nominated by the scary FPÖ …sure they don’t dare going full-frontal “antivaxx neonazi etc…”… just suggesting…as usually here and elsewhere. the original list of questions does in fact really look as a compilation of “antivaxx. antimask, antilockdown” arguments…to the point that when the questions list started to circulate on the net here, everybody was wondering if it was not a fake…until the Constitutional Court confirmed however apparently mainstream media just discovered such arguments…yet again medias don’t dare to use the dreaded word “antivaxx rhetoric”, headlines state “the Court asks tough questions” now the way it works in Austria ensures it won’t change much: i.e. by time the Constitutional Court comes up with some decision (usually against the gov), the government would have lifted the measures : previous measures back in 2020 and early 2021 were also deemed unconstitutional AFTER gov lifted them. so as that’s common practice, it’s like a game: gov implements anticonstitutional measures, somebody brings the matter to the Constitutional Court, they ponder… Read more »
correction: “…is the ONLY way out…”… almost missed the best part…sorry!
She’s definitely a trans. So people who like trans probably find her hot. Nothing wrong with that though.