2021 Less Deadly Than 2015, ONS Data Show

Many lockdown sceptics have recently been sharing statistics from the ONS showing that just 17,371 people died of Covid in England and Wales up to the end of September 2021 where COVID-19 was the only cause of death recorded on the death certificate. This compares to 148,536 official Covid deaths in the same period (also for England and Wales, as are the estimates below) where COVID-19 was mentioned as a cause of death somewhere on the death certificate. Separately, the Government dashboard reported 126,384 deaths recorded as occurring within 28 days of a positive Covid test in the same period, while the ONS reported 117,247 excess deaths.

A more recent response to a Freedom of Information request in January gives a figure of just 6,183 deaths, again where COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate, this time up to December 31st 2021. The reason for the difference in these two figures is likely to relate to the definition used – the first figure (17,371) came from a dataset on pre-existing conditions that has been published throughout the pandemic (so didn’t actually need an FOI request to provide the data) and the definition is stated in the dataset. The definition and source of the second figure (6,183) is not stated.

Either way, the figures are an order of magnitude lower than official Covid deaths – for example, 17,371 is just 12% of the official ONS tally of Covid deaths of 148,536 – and some sceptics have inferred from this that up to 90% of the official Covid deaths are not really Covid deaths, or at least were likely to have happened around that time anyway, and thus that the pandemic death toll has been hugely overstated.

Now, it’s true that the pandemic death toll has been overstated. For example, in the most recent week, the ONS itself explains that of the official Covid deaths which mention COVID-19 somewhere on the death certificate, 22.8% were recorded as of a different underlying cause. Over the whole pandemic up to December 31st 2021, 141,057 of 156,924 or 90% of Covid deaths were registered with Covid as the underlying cause, leaving 10% as of a different underlying cause. That’s the official estimate of the overstatement, with others putting it higher.

However, to conclude from this that the other 70-80% of Covid deaths – the ones where Covid was recorded as the underlying cause alongside other contributory causes – were not really due to Covid or would have happened anyway is assuming too much. The important question is whether a death would have happened anyway in the absence of the underlying cause. In most cases the answer is no, which is why it’s been recorded as the underlying cause. Yes, a person may have several comorbidities, which are the reason Covid proved deadly for him; without those, he may well have survived Covid. However, crucially, without Covid he may well not have died at that point, as Covid was the underlying cause of his death.

How can we know one way or the other? It’s frequently noted that the most reliable measure of the true impact of the pandemic is excess or above-average mortality, as that is not affected by slippery definitions of Covid deaths. One drawback is it is confounded by ‘lockdown’ deaths, i.e., deaths resulting from interventions and the public response, such as lack of access to healthcare. However, as excess deaths declined at the same time as reported infections in early 2021 despite the drawn-out lockdown (see chart above) it seems safe to conclude that a sizeable majority of excess deaths classified as due to Covid (underlying cause) were indeed caused by Covid and would not have happened at that point in its absence. This means that 117,247 (up to the end of September 2021) seems a reasonable approximation of the number of people who died due to COVID-19 who would have survived for some time otherwise.

This figure need to be put into perspective, as over half a million people die each year in England and Wales, pandemic or no pandemic, and the average age of death with Covid is higher than the average age of death from all causes, meaning most of those who die were coming towards the end of their lives in any case. Indeed, once the ageing of the population has been taken into account, 2020 was only the most deadly year since 2008, while according to new data released by the ONS this month, 2021 was only the most deadly year since 2015 (see chart at top). So it’s hardly worth upending lives, demolishing cherished liberties and causing widespread suffering and loss over – particularly as there’s scant evidence restrictions, which can at best only delay infection, have saved lives.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago

Facts and reasoned analysis thereof. So Twentieth Century.

Vaxtastic
4 years ago

Exactly. And not a single mention of colonisation and our legacy of hate. I mean, really 🤪

loopDloop
loopDloop
4 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Exactly. And failed to denounce The racism and The homophobia.

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

Transgenderphobalism!

cornubian
4 years ago

The ‘covid’ diagnosis hinges on a PCR test that cannot tell your arse from your elbow, so how can the Sceptic largely agree with these faked figures?

Silke David
4 years ago

I saw a graph for Germany, they had less deaths in 20/21 winter season than the last big flu season.

Vaxtastic
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

They’ll soon fix that with their final solution for the unjabbed 🤡

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

I noticed that a long time ago and found it very concerning. While in the UK we did have a notable number of “excess” deaths against recent baseline, which provided a just about plausible reason for government concern, Germany did not, which made me very suspicious that this whole thing rapidly became unconnected to a virus, if it ever was.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Did German fail to kick people out of hospitals and into “care homes”?

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

This relates to my concern about ‘excess deaths’ – a moveable feast that is often used to distort the wider context of mortality.

BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

I’ve studied “ILI” (Influenza Like Illness) reports from the CDC and state departments of health for the flu season of 2019-2020. All of these reports (pre-COVID) said that the flu was “widespread” and “severe” in most states in the USA.

Well, skip forward a year and the CDC finally releases its estimates on flu deaths for this particular flu season … and they are the lowest they’ve been in the past decade. Flu cases were among the lowest in a decade.

What happened to this terrible flu that was ravaging the country and closing schools left and right?

rtaylor
4 years ago

Can anyone cross-reference the two blue peaks of Covid-19 deaths in March-April 2020 and Dec 2020-Jan 2021 in the 2nd graph with NHS and care homes ordering Midazolam and DNR orders?

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago
Reply to  rtaylor

Heresy!

mishmash
4 years ago
Reply to  rtaylor

From this article:

mishmash
4 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

From this article:
(double post, sorry)

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Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

o/t: COVID-19: A Second Opinion.Senator Ron Johnson with Malone, McCullough, Alexander et al. livestream.
https://rumble.com/vt62y6-covid-19-a-second-opinion.html

Dr corey just blew his top – corruption in the medical establishment, this is live and a must watch….

Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

wow, they just said the vaccines are weakening our immune response chronically – flucking bell

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago

Weakening the immune system is a clever way to commit mass murder because there is no one tell tale set of symptoms, just whatever happens to get you first.

scamdemic
scamdemic
4 years ago

Lock us down now !!!

Vaxtastic
4 years ago
Reply to  scamdemic

That’s the spirit. Nail some sense into them! 😎

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zPi76KvQF1g

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  scamdemic

Some ‘people’ at work still won’t remove masks on Thursday because they ‘feel more comfortable’ in them.

The criminals have created a monster!

Or a nation of mad cabbages, if you prefer.

Vaxtastic
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Or, a handy visual reference for the rest of us to easily identify the people to avoid 😷

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Aye, but that’s… 95%!! 😣😭😭😭

Vaxtastic
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Same where I am. Possibly higher.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

They are bloody fools! Brainwashed, abused, tormented, but still fools!

They’re doing it to themselves and abusing us ‘normies’ to boot.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Definitely the latter.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Stop sounding surprised – this is an inevitable consequence of the terror campaign mounted against the populace. That’s the way it works.

I take comfort in the slow, but observable changes in attitudes and behaviour.

Bolloxed Britannia
Bolloxed Britannia
4 years ago

As we know Boris, the only figure you can’t fuck with is adjusted all cause mortality! I know what your up to fella, the insidious Eugenicist ideology of the father dosn’t fall very far from the tree does it? But for the many many million out there who are just waking from their psy-ops induces coma…WHERE WAS THE PLANDEMIC?

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago

So it’s hardly worth upending lives, demolishing cherished liberties and causing widespread suffering and loss over – particularly as there’s scant evidence restrictions, which can at best only delay infection, have saved lives.

On the face of it yes, but likely not if Covid was a planned “pandemic” designed purposely to bring about control and depopulation, that have been long sought by the globalist supremos. The whole Covid event, and governments’ illogical reactions to it, will not make sense until we are prepared to think outside of the box.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

As the background noise to ‘covid’ fades, the obvious truth emerges that rain is water, oxygen is a gas, a flu is a cold, and the gov are bastards.

BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago

The question as to how many people really died “from” COVID is very important and, as far as I can tell, few studies have tried to definitively quantify this number/percentage. The “most comprehensive” study I’ve seen to date might be the study done by researchers that looked at the medical records of EVERY child hospitalized in the UK in the first year of the pandemic.  By examining these medical records, the researchers reduced the number of deaths “from” COVID from 61 to 25. This is a decrease of 59 percent. As I read this study, these researchers did try to subtract all the deaths that were attributed to COVID that should not have been. The researchers went further and noted that of these 25 deaths that WERE “from COVID,” 19 occurred in children who had “severe” and/or “life-altering” medical conditions. From this finding, one can ascertain the number of “healthy” children who died from the disease in the first 12 months of the pandemic. This number, amazingly, is only six children.  Still, the fact the original number of 61 deaths was reduced to 25 deaths is very significant. This seems to be about as thorough of a death analysis as… Read more »

Vaxtastic
4 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

There you go with your dangerous facts and numbers. People like you are a menace. We’re all in this together 🧐

BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

I’ve also tried to ascertain the number of children in my state of Alabama who have died “from” Covid. Believe it or not, the Alabama Department of Public Health will not provide this definitive information (I asked). Still, from various sources I got the figure of 10 children (0 to 17 …. or maybe 18) who have died with or from COVID in the past 23 months. But this number is cumulative. To compare childhood death rates to other causes of death among children, one would need to get the “annual” number of deaths (deaths in a 12-month period of time). Since COVID has now been around for about 24 months, I would estimate that five children at the most in my state died “from” COVID in a 12-month timespan. Five deaths among about 1.2 million children is not a high number. It certainly would not qualify as one of the “Top 10” or “Top eight” causes of childhood death. (I have repeatedly read this quote from pediatricians and public health officials). How could just five deaths qualify as the “Top 8 cause of death” among children? This doesn’t pass the common-sense test, and these quotes/stories never list the raw… Read more »

BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

What is the most common cause of death in people under the median age (roughly 40) in America and my state? Traffic accidents. It might be politically incorrect, but I maintain that all deaths are not equally “tragic.” Deaths among young people with decades of their lives in front of them are more tragic than deaths of people who have already reached average life expectancy. How does the death rate of those under 40 from COVID compare to the death rate of those who die from traffic accidents? Per my quick research, people under 40 are 2.8 times more likely to die in a traffic accident than “from” Covid (and this is using the inflated COVID death figures. If we used more realistic numbers, young people might be 5x more likely to die in a car accident than “from” COVID). So families and friends lose a lot more people they actually knew in traffic accidents than “from” COVID in a typical year. Somehow society keeps functioning even in the face of these deaths. With COVID – which poses a far lower risk of death for those 40 and under – we completely restructured society and imposed all these lockdowns and… Read more »

SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

The other group of people for which a complete audit of actual cause of death has been done is pregnant women. It’s pretty eye opening. Well I wasn’t surprised obviously but still shocking.

BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago

The number of stillbirths seems to have spiked tremendously as well.

BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago
Reply to  186NO

Thanks for sharing. Interesting. Shocking really. Or maybe not so shocking in our New Normal.

jwills
4 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

Excellent comment

RickH
4 years ago

Essentially an update of what we have known since mid-2020. The foundational lie about the SARS non-epidemic.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

Many of us have been saying this for months !

So who have been fooled into rank stupidity

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Yeah but fewer car crashes due to lockdowns! 😂😂😂

Offsetting putative deaths saved will be the next growth area for lies!

Vaxtastic
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Mental torment at an all time high, but muggings are down. 🤠

FrankFisher
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

I’d be willing to lay down hard cash that RTAs are up in 2021. A fair proportion of drivers now appear to be fast asleep.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  FrankFisher

Before compelling professional drivers to wear masks came into force I asked a traffic cop what his Union, Police Service, fellow Officers or himself thought about safety issues arising from long distance driving with masks (ie falling asleep at the wheel because of reduced oxygen intake).
His response was simply to say

“We don’t wear them”

Which I took to mean that they didn’t want to; but now they do, probably at the insistence of management.

Dodgy Geezer
Dodgy Geezer
4 years ago
Reply to  FrankFisher

Narcolepsy?

ElSabio
4 years ago

Off topic perhaps… but possibly the biggest squirrel in the buffoon’s bag of dirty tricks.

Russia Planning “Lightning War” To Take Out Ukraine’s Capital: UK’s Johnson In Dramatic Claim.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-planning-lightning-war-take-out-ukraines-capital-uks-johnson-dramatic-claim

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BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

What if it happens? 😂😂😂

ElSabio
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

LOL! We’re screwed….

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karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

‘Kiev’ is Russian translation, Ukrainian preference is
Kyev.

karenovirus
4 years ago

At various times since ‘1st Wave’* began to fade the press were reduced to reporting on

“Deaths where Covid was mentioned on the Death Certificate”

must have been desperate to keep the numbers up.

*they didn’t call it “1st Wave” at the time, bit like The Great War (1914-18) only became WW1 when the second one turned up.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

What can we do about a clown world? As the truth emerges we can laugh, but the anger makes me want to shriek.

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago

‘showing that just 17,371 people died of Covid in England and Wales up to the end of September 2021’

17,371 would be fairly low for nealry 18 months worth of influenza in the UK, odd then that influenza magically disappeared at exactly the same time?

BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

When comparing influenza deaths to Covid deaths, one should also note that influenza death figures largely occur in four or five months (roughly November – March) of the “flu season.

So if the flu killed 60,000 people in the USA in 2017-2018, almost all of those deaths happened in five months, which would be 12,000/deaths/month. So a fairer comparison might show the death/per month instead of per year.

Also, I note that the CDC used to say that 80,000 people died in this particularly severe flu season. In one day – with one press release – the CDC got rid of 20,000 flu deaths. I thought that was kind of interesting that 20,000 deaths could vanish in one day … but that’s what happened. So about those “death estimates,” note that they could be changed by 25 percent any time in the future.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago

Will, The figure you are looking for is 7 weeks.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

Gov will never admit to lying, deceiving, killing, or being wrong, will it?

The passive gaslighting of releasing new figures but neither publicising them nor commenting on them is evil incarnate.

‘The rabble won’t care!’

BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

Yet more evidence to prove this essentially was a scam, jumped upon by freeloaders and unscrupulous profiteers. Just where did that flu and cold go…?

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago

Do you recall that HCQ tria they did in the UK where they gave patients known toxic doses in order to discredit HCQ?
They have been murdering people as a matter of routine.

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago

This is an excellent presentation explaining what a con job the Pfizer trial was from the Canadian covid care alliance –
The Pfizer inoculations do more harm than goodhttps://www.bitchute.com/video/JzSgYY38QfFY/

NickR
4 years ago

Table 12 on page 38 of the HSA week 3 vaccine surveillance report now tabulates un-vaxxed people against triple vaxxed people. I’ve put alongside the data the greater/lesser likelihood of one group rather than the other catching covid. For those 30 & over the overall figure is for the triple vaxxed to be 57% more likely to test positive than the unvaxxed. The average figures for the over 30’s are 3,140.13/100,000 rate for triple vaxxed, and 1,993.87/100,000 rate for the unvaxxed. Many of you will recall that the BBC Radio 4 show & Prof David Spiegelhalter tried to do a take down on this data for the double jabbed some months ago, they identified that as HSA were using NIMS population data they were probably understating the number of unvaxxed people. I just ran the numbers, to reach parity between the vaxxed & unvaxxed for the over 30’s the population of the over 30’s would need to be 6m higher than the HSA think it is! That’s a lot of people to lose. Naturally, for the vaxxed to as relatively effective as being unvaxxed (57% better than being unvaxxed) there would need to be 12m more people over 30 in… Read more »

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

The feedback from my relatives, is that they know its nonsense but can’t be bothered to fight the guidelines, they actually laugh about having to wear a muzzle while complying.

Chris_uk
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

People like that are very much part of the problem. Pretending that this mess is the government’s problem is a cop-out. This mess belongs to every one of us, but especially to the people who complied with all of the bullshit.

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago
Reply to  Chris_uk

I spare my sympathies for the poor b*ggers who still think that their cancer-riddled, diabetic seventy-something parents were killed by covid and are still angry – understandably – that they weren’t allowed to be with them in the last hours. Those folks will never wake up…

Dodgy Geezer
Dodgy Geezer
4 years ago

It seems to me that Covid is essentially a flu.

The initial level of deaths was what you would expect if there was a new flu around, and the government shipped infected vulnerable old people into care homes and cut off medical care.

Later the NHS sent round a Do Not Resuscitate order for all vulnerable patients. That would add to the death total. And then the long withdrawal of care to the whole population would keep it high, even without any flu.

I’m surprised the extra death rate was as low as it was.. .

Freecumbria
4 years ago

If we look at age standardised mortality (so adjusts for population and age structure) for England in the ages up to age 74 we can see we are experiencing high mortality relative to recent years because of the effects of the disastrous response to the pandemic and the damage caused by the experimental vaccines.

This chart is produced from data in the monthly mortality analysis. You can see how the red line for 2021 has been an outlier relative to post 2010 years (the post 2010 years are solid lines and the 2010 and previous years are dotted lines), with the final point being December 2021.

To put this in context it is pushing mortality back to around 2010 levels.

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Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

And this is my chart showing how minimal covid labelled deaths are in the scheme of things currently. It’s the equivalent of the ONS chart in the article but is based on death occurrences.

And that minimal effect of covid labelled deaths is even before we allow for the over attribution of positive test deaths to covid deaths as discussed in the article.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

This graph shows things very well, thanks.

Freecumbria
4 years ago

This is a chart of the covid labelled deaths by number of pre-existing conditions.

The figure of 18,907 with no pre-existing conditions includes quarter 4 of 2021 and is equivalent to the 17K figure in the article which is up to end of quarter 3 of 2021.

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jwills
4 years ago

“Harvesting”. I remember when the term was permitted to be used on radio 4 in the original lock down. Not sure if it still does as stopped listening.

GlassHalfFull
4 years ago

“This means that 117,247 (up to the end of September 2021) seems a reasonable approximation of the number of people who died due to COVID-19 who would have survived for some time otherwise.” Will Jones doesn’t say how long that “some time” is and I am disappointed he agrees with this figure. As the average age of Covid deaths is around 81.5 and slightly higher than the age of natural death it is quite conceivable that those unfortunate people would have died within a very, very short time anyway of natural causes, possibly days or a few weeks. Also, it is a known scientific fact that viruses compete with each other. SARS-CoV-2 was more virulent than all other coronaviruses (ie the common cold) and more virulent than influenza and those viruses subsided. Therefore the very existence of SARS-CoV-2 meant colds and flu almost disappeared because that is what viruses do. Without Covid on the scene it is quite conceivable colds and flu would have been more evident which would have killed many of those who died of Covid instead. The previous mild winters and the “dry tinder” effect made the number of deaths worse. Midazolam, forced ventilation, missed diagnosis, lockdowns… Read more »

Steven Robinson
Steven Robinson
4 years ago

The definition and source of the second figure (6,183) is not stated.
This is incorrect, I believe. The reason for the discrepancy is that the latter figure, the total for 2020 and 2021, relates solely to autopsies rather than all death certificates.

Javy
Javy
4 years ago

But Table 1 doesn’t mention autopsies ?? 🤔

LonePatriot
LonePatriot
4 years ago

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago

”…that just 17,371 people died of Covid …”

We don’t need the word ”just” to manipulate us into thinking it’s a small number. We know it is – and we also know that this is a far greater number than actually died ”WITH” it.